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FOOTBALL fans and residents using Colchester United’s Community Stadium are getting along just fine, a survey has found.

When the Weston Homes Community Stadium finally opened its doors last August, Mile End residents were in uproar as fans clogged up their streets on match days, despite the introduction of a free shuttle bus service from near Colchester North Station.

Some claimed fans had sworn at them and even urinated in public, while marshals were quickly put in place to encourage supporters to take other ways to get to the ground.

A survey of residents’ views by Councillor Martin Goss (Lib Dem, Mile End) showed that although improvements can be made, residents are largely happy with the arrangements.

He said the recent derby encounter against Southend United, which attracted a record 8,651 crowd, resulted in only one complaint about cars parking in Howards Croft.

“The general consensus is that people are much more content than they were when the ground first opened,” he said. “Problems seem to be less and people seem to be happier.”

Boxted Road resident Malcolm Nicholson, praised new chief executive Steve Bradshaw for taking a hands-on approach to problems.

“We did have issues in the early part of the season but a lot of these have gone away,” he said.

“We’re happy with the way things have moved along and there’s been quite a lot of improvement.

“But we’re still concerned that if Colchester United have gates of 8,000 to 10,000, then the problems may come back.”

Mr Bradshaw said: “We are really pleased with what the local residents have said. The football club has worked hard since moving in to be a good neighbour.

“Of course, there were teething problems along the way, but we have worked in partnership with the borough council and other local agencies to ensure that we have enhanced the community offer in the area.

“As Colchester United maintains its aspirations to be a Championship club, it will continue to consult with the local community as to any new developments. This will ensure the club’s desire to be a true community partner.”

Comments(41)

Say It As It Is OK? says...
11:30am Tue 10 Mar 09

Yes it has improved, but the Police and Colchester United continue to close Boxted Road to traffic after the matches.

This denies residents the right of access to their homes.

When is something going to be done about this? and when will the road be left open for everyone to use?

Come on Gazette, this is disgracefull reporting, you are fully aware road closures remain an issue for residents so why are you burying your head in the sand and only reporting what you want to say, rather than what residents have been telling you all along.

Or does this have more to do with The Gazette being in bed with the club because they are a sponsor for Col United?...nudge, nudge, wink, wink!

gossmartin says...
1:32pm Tue 10 Mar 09

Yes I agree with you that the Boxted Road closures need to be looked at and sorted. There are still issues to be fixed, but it is much better than it was and we need to continue to make constant improvements.

It shows that teamwork really does work.

thelookout says...
1:47pm Tue 10 Mar 09

Yes, completely agree with"Say It As It Is Ok",while there have been improvements, there is still the major problem of Boxted road closures which denies access to residents.Also there are many potholes due to increased bus traffic-a problem for ECC

slim_ronnie says...
2:09pm Tue 10 Mar 09

I quite agree that shutting Boxted Road is a bad thing for the residents and I really do sympathise with them, but due to the poor planning of the venue, hundreds of fans pile out on to Boxted Road, where some drivers tend to speed. Fans seem unable to remain on the paths and it's just an accident waiting to happen. If the authorities didn't put safety mesaures in place and there was an accident, there'd be uproar that they weren't doing enough. The road closures are organised / agreed by Col U and the Council. The Police are just responsible for carrying it out. It seems like the authorities are damned if they do and damned if they don't in this situation. In my opinion, it's all down to bad planning with regards to access to the stadium and I feel sorry for the people that are left to make the best out of a bad situation.

Say It As It Is OK? says...
2:30pm Tue 10 Mar 09

slim_ronnie....The road closures are NOT agreed by either the club or the council. The club should be the ones to organise formal planned closures but they have ignore the problem all season.

It's the police who close the road, without any notification or warning and they do nothing to encourages or marshall pedestrians to walk on the pavement, which after all is where they should walk....and not down the middle of the road!

Of course I agree this is a consequence of a poor planning decision but of course those who made the decision don't care and why? because they do not have to live with the inconvenience!

Boris says...
2:41pm Tue 10 Mar 09

After matches in the old stadium, the police always used to close a section of Layer Road to traffic for about 15 minutes (more or less, according to size of crowd) to allow pedestrians to disperse. Local people, and those on their way from town to Layer-de-la-Haye or vice versa, just adapted to it. The Mile End people can surely do the same.

Say It As It Is OK? says...
3:02pm Tue 10 Mar 09

And why should we Boris? Is the road you live in closed off on a regular basis....I doubt it very much. If it was you would most probably be the first to complain.

I suppose you just apply the "As long as it's not in my back yard", I don't care attitude....sadly so common place these days!

Scoot says...
3:11pm Tue 10 Mar 09

AS far as Iam aware the police only close 1 road around Old Trafford during match days and that is one right next to the stadium and the police have to contend with 70 odd thousand supporters for every game.Surely the police should be ensuring that supporters stick to the paths on Boxted Road and allow residents access. Didn't anyone think about all this when it was being planned ?

thelookout says...
3:34pm Tue 10 Mar 09

The police close the road when they feel like it but still allow pedestrians to walk down it.

gossmartin says...
5:02pm Tue 10 Mar 09

The recommendation of the Highway authority when all this was put before them was to wait for the A12 junction. The previous Tory administration removed this from the conditions so the stadium went ahead without the appropriate infrastructure.

Hence why we have this situation.

At least the A12 junction should be here in 2011 once it gets signed off.

DelA says...
5:36pm Tue 10 Mar 09

I am all for Boxted road to remain open, as long as traffic from the stadium is allowed to exit by it on a "Left turn only" basis.
Even with the new A12 junction, there will still be a lot of traffic wishing to leave via Boxted road!
OR! are the local residents only allowed to use Boxted road!

Say It As It Is OK? says...
6:03pm Tue 10 Mar 09

DelA....Review the planning approvals for the stadium and you will find out that United Way was never intended as a through route onto Boxted Road.

The main route for vehicles from the stadium was to be the NAR link road through Severalls. This is yet to be built and it was irresponsible of the planning committee to approve the stadium without having regard for a proper road infrastructure around it.

Also was agreed that Boxted road would be used only for shuttle buses, Taxi's and pedestrians.

However, it was never meant to be closed on match days!

And to answer your question. No, Boxted Road is not just for residents, you will find it has always been a through route from Mile End to Boxted....that is until they decided to close it to all traffic.... but strangely they usually leave it open for the shuttle buses to use which makes a mockery of having the road closed but only for selected motorists.

Boris says...
10:31pm Tue 10 Mar 09

Say It As It Is, funnily enough there is a problem in the road where I live. It doesn't get closed but we have to pay for an annual parking permit. There are several doctors and dentists nearby, which means in surgery hours the moment one of us drives away, our parking place is taken by a patient. When we return we often have to park some way away. But we don't moan about it, we got used to it and we live with the situation.
I'm sure you Mile End people will learn to do the same. There are only about 25 home matches per year so you have only an occasional inconvenience.

Say It As It Is OK? says...
9:19am Wed 11 Mar 09

Well if I were you Boris I would get the parking attendants out to put tickets on these patients cars...If they are not residents and don't have a parking permit or a residents visitors permit then they have no right to park there.

You don't have to put up with it you know!....Why not do something about your own area instead of just expecting other to accept road closures without a fight!

The problem is too many people give up far too easily!

slim_ronnie says...
10:30am Wed 11 Mar 09

SayItAsItIs - When I checked about the road closures I was informed that they were arranged and agreed by the club and Colchester Borough Council. The Police enforce it, but are not responsible for actually planning it. I'm not trying to argue, I'm just reiterating what I have been told by the authorities. When I was chatting with a Police Officer they also confirmed this and they are not to happy with the whole setup. They receive abuse for putting in place the road closures, which even they don't agree with.

The whole setup of the stadium is a nightmare and why they didn't plan the whole thing better is beyond me. I mean, pedestrians have to cross the entrance of the only car park to get to and from the shuttle buses. This means you have lots of cars trying to get out whilst you have thousands of fans crossing the car park entrance. What a bright idea!

Boris says...
10:48am Wed 11 Mar 09

Say It, to answer your latest point: I should have explained that our parking restrictions only apply at lunch time (to deter all-day parkers). Anyone is free to park mornings, afternoons and overnight.
We did have a battle about it, about 15 years ago, but that was settled and we get along OK.

Say It As It Is OK? says...
11:18am Wed 11 Mar 09

slim_ronnie....I can categorically confirm the road closures are ad-hoc closures carried out by Essex Police only. The club, the council and our MP are aware but to date nobody has done anything to either stop these closures or make them formal road closures.

Moves have been underway to ensure the football club do follow proper procedures and they must apply for a "Planned Event Road Closure Notice" if the road is to be closed.

This should have done months ago but they ignored it.

Because the club failed to react the police (at a senior level) have confirmed the club will have to act now and they will then have to manage the closure with their own trained Stewards.

This requires proper road closure notices and suitable diversions to be made available.

Of course there is a solution that will keep the road open for us all to use and that is to widen the pavement, install pedestrian barriers so pedestrians walk on the pavement and not in the carriageway, and to install street lighting on the unlit section.

We are lobbying the council to do this as a matter of urgency and I know CUSA are also keen because if the road is closed to through traffic and residents it will also be closed to shuttle buses at the same time.

Say It As It Is OK? says...
11:32am Wed 11 Mar 09

Boris wrote:
Say It, to answer your latest point: I should have explained that our parking restrictions only apply at lunch time (to deter all-day parkers). Anyone is free to park mornings, afternoons and overnight. We did have a battle about it, about 15 years ago, but that was settled and we get along OK.
Ah but Boris it does seem to be a problem for you! Otherwise why did you raise your own parking issues in your street, in the first place?

If you are paying for a parking permit and non permit holders are parking then why not try to get the times changed that suit residents!

The point is nobody should have to put up with a situation that is forced upon them, particularly ones where poor and irresponsible planning decisions have resulted in residents being affected.

I'm sure you would agree that those who make these decision would not accept it where they live, so why would anyone else?

The REAL Norm says...
3:01pm Wed 11 Mar 09

Yawn, Yawn, Yawn at 'Say It As It Is OK?' Maybe you should change your name to 'Say The Same Thing Over and Over Again' ad nauseam.

If you don't like it, move.

Your obsession with the Boxted Road closure needs to stop.

I'm sure the long suffering Mrs 'Say It As It Is OK?'(assuming there is one) has had enough of your constant bleating and whining as well.

Stop it now. Get a hobby. Get a life. Even better, get a season ticket...!

Say It As It Is OK? says...
3:12pm Wed 11 Mar 09

If you don't like it Unreal Norma then you know what you can do..... but I won't say it online although I'm sure you can guess what I mean, OK!

The REAL Norm says...
3:26pm Wed 11 Mar 09

I don't mind - say what you like.

Your obsession with the Boxted Road closure is worrying. Chuck a few personal insults around instead if you want. Just stop whining.

We know the facts and we understand the point you're making. But repeating it again and again and writing pages of drivel won't change anything.

If you feel that strongly about it, try some direct action. Chain yourself to a shuttle bus. Blockade the road - anything.

Norfolk in Chance says...
3:38pm Wed 11 Mar 09

This debate put some good arguments forward, not saying I agree with everything said but when Norm arrived on the scene with his insults it went down hill fast. If you can't contribute positivly norm then I think it better you say nothing.

The REAL Norm says...
3:42pm Wed 11 Mar 09

It's called free speech.

The problem is that the same points are being made again and again by the same people - both here and elsewhere. There is no purpose to it; there is no way forward. The stadium is there; it's not going anywhere else. The road closures are happening. Deal with it or take some direct action to at least progress the situation towards some form of resolution.

Say It As It Is OK? says...
4:03pm Wed 11 Mar 09

Oh free speech is it now Norm, does that only apply to you?

Norm, Residents are doing everything they can and I don't think chaining ourselves to a shuttle bus is very sensible idea.

By insisting the club takes responsibility for the planned closures, which they have to do, and by ensuring the shuttle buses are also stopped from using the road during the closure should help focus a few more people to act to ensure the road kept open.

Perhaps supporters can help by walking along the pavement rather than on the road as many do....just common sense really!

The REAL Norm says...
4:26pm Wed 11 Mar 09

You see, you're doing it again - just labouring over the same old points that everyone is already aware of.

You seriously believe that the police are going to hold back the shuttle buses when the road closure is in place? I don't think so.

It's Cuckoo Farm, not Cloud Cuckoo Land.

And by the way, if you truly believe that what is happening is against the law, why don't you take legal action against the club or the police or whoever it is your grudge is with?

Now that would be something purposeful you could do.

Free speech applies to everyone. That's why you've been able to bore everyone senseless for months reiterating the same tired argument again and again.

Question is, are you prepared to do something about it? Or do you actually prefer the status quo because the constant whining and arguing the toss on here gives you some sense of purpose in life?


Say It As It Is OK? says...
5:10pm Wed 11 Mar 09

Well Norm, same old, same old.

You obviously didn't go to the match last night because if you had you would have noticed the police did close the road to the buses as well.

And we are doing something very positive in a number of ways.

Also its strange you don't want to support a responsible approach amongst supporters in encouraging them to walk on the pavement rather than on the road!

The REAL Norm says...
6:07pm Wed 11 Mar 09

I did go. Can't say I actually noticed the road was closed to buses at all. But, if it was, then what are you still moaning about?

Say It As It Is OK? says...
10:30pm Wed 11 Mar 09

The REAL Norm wrote:
I did go. Can't say I actually noticed the road was closed to buses at all. But, if it was, then what are you still moaning about?
After all this time you still don't really grasp what the real issues are about the road closures do you Norm?
Lets not spoil your little world!


Boris says...
12:56am Thu 12 Mar 09

Gordon Bennett, just get used to it, learn to be positive. You Mile End nimbies should be grateful you have got the stadium nearby. Our loss is your gain. Walk to the matches, cheer on the U's, walk back (keeping to the pavement if you wish), and by the time you have got back home, the road will be open again and you can drive out in your car. Problem solved.
I often disagree with Norm, but you have succeeded in making me agree with him.

Boudicathepessimist says...
8:26am Thu 12 Mar 09

Well Boris I object to you calling us nimbies, the people in Mile End had no choice regards the Football Stadium, most of the people that live on Mile End are not Football supporters, if the A12 junction had been built first we would not have had this trouble, as far as I can see it is mob rule.

Say It As It Is OK? says...
10:06am Thu 12 Mar 09

Boris, i'm soooooo glad you are now the best of buddies with norm...at least for the time being anyway!
Ha, Ha

The REAL Norm says...
11:48am Thu 12 Mar 09

Your obsession with the road closure is worrying. I neither agree nor disagree with you and I don't know the minutiae of the situation as well as you do (in fact I have no desire to).

This obsession - because that's what it has become in your case - is bordering on the psychotic and I can only feel sympathy for the people in your life that have to tolerate your incessant bleating.

Maybe it's what you need: something to obsess over to paper over the cracks elsewhere in your life. I wish you every success with your campaign - whatever it actually is - but just tone down the whining a bit for the sake of all those around you.

Say It As It Is OK? says...
1:33pm Thu 12 Mar 09

I couldn't agree more with you norm, that Boris is such an obsessive.

You would make a lovely couple!

The REAL Norm says...
1:39pm Thu 12 Mar 09

That's the best riposte you've got? Says it all really.

Say It As It Is OK? says...
2:03pm Thu 12 Mar 09

Thanks norm, and you think i'm obsessive?

Take a look at your own posts....see what I mean?



Cynic2009 says...
2:09pm Thu 12 Mar 09

"Or does this have more to do with The Gazette being in bed with the club because they are a sponsor for Col United?...nudge, nudge, wink, wink!"...
Say it as it is..... I am no expert but presumably the Gazette "sponsoring" the club means the Gazette gives it money because, as a local paper, it has to support its local team. How would this mean it is "in bed with the club". Bearing in mind all the stories it has done about racist problems there etc, it is hardly "in bed" with it.

Boris says...
9:47pm Thu 12 Mar 09

Boudica, I agree the club should have stayed at Layer Road until that link road was opened. I don't like having to go up to the back of beyond to watch the U's, when I used to walk to Layer Rd. A vocal pressure group forced the early move. But the stadium is there now, so you may as well get used to it, same as we all have to get used to seeing the ugly hulk of the VAF in our town centre.
Norm, I like your psychoanalysis of Say It As It Is. You seem to have touched on a raw nerve there.

DelA says...
9:38am Fri 13 Mar 09

Will you get it into your thick heads that even after the A12 trunk road is in, the buses and walking fans will still be leaving via Boxted road.They live that way and the buses will still arrive and leave that way.The best way is to have a roundabout built at the junction with Boxted road, then the Boxted traffic will have right if way as well!

Boudicathepessimist says...
10:30am Fri 13 Mar 09

Hi Boris I was not complaining about the Stadium, as you say it is too late now, and really you fans have not caused us any trouble, I do feel for the people who live in Boxted Road,because they did have a nice quiet area, and the fact that they are stopped from getting into their houses is bad. The thing that I objected to was the fact that you keep calling us Nimbes, we are far from that.

Say It As It Is OK? says...
12:00pm Fri 13 Mar 09

Boris.....Say whatever you like! In the words of Catherine Tate...Am I bothered!

We will just keep going, despite what people like you say! We will NOT accept the road should be closed just so irresponsible and uncaring supporters can freely walk in the carriageway.

Of course we might not get what we want, for some time, but keeping the pressure on the council and the club to get things moving will work, eventually. It has to because the road closures are costing the club dearly and who pays for this....yes, you've guessed it the supporters.

You might consider it nimbyism, we think it more fighting for our rights of access.

thelookout says...
5:01pm Fri 13 Mar 09

I agree with "Say it as it is ok", why should supporters be allowed to wander freely down the middle of the road when access is denied to residents.


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