£5 million Turner Rise expansion could get green light

£5 million Turner Rise expansion could get green light

£5 million Turner Rise expansion could get green light

First published in News

A PROPOSED £5 million upgrade of a Colchester retail centre could win planning approval next week.

Officers at Colchester Council have recommended councillors approve a bid to add a Costa Coffee and three new stores to Turner Rise, next to Asda.

Applicants Quadrant Estates also want to create space for one-off events such as farmers markets or Christmas tree sales.

They say plans to introduce a one way loop system for motorists will help alleviate congestion at North Station Roundabout, as will forthcoming traffic changes by Essex County Council.

Myland Community Council welcomed the creation of new jobs but expressed concerns about an increase in traffic.

Essex County Council highways officers said only five to six cars an hour would travel to and from Turner Rise, as the new stores would be visited by shoppers spending longer there.

Two residents also opposed the bid, citing congestion, while the owners of Lion Walk shopping centre also submitted an objection, claiming the expansion and market stalls would damage town centre trade.

A final decision will be made by councillors at Colchester town hall next Thursday from 6pm.

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11:19am Wed 13 Aug 14

Say It As It Is OK? says...

How on earth can ECC Highways Officers know this development will only increase traffic flow to this development by only five to six cars an hour? They are idiots!

Whatever is approved with this development ALL traffic will still have to negotiate the North Station junctio,n which is an absolute disaster area that has been deteriorating for years and years without any prospect of improvements. And with the P&R as well as the opening of NAR3 directly from the A12 (in a few months time) the North Station junction is only going to get worse.
How on earth can ECC Highways Officers know this development will only increase traffic flow to this development by only five to six cars an hour? They are idiots! Whatever is approved with this development ALL traffic will still have to negotiate the North Station junctio,n which is an absolute disaster area that has been deteriorating for years and years without any prospect of improvements. And with the P&R as well as the opening of NAR3 directly from the A12 (in a few months time) the North Station junction is only going to get worse. Say It As It Is OK?
  • Score: 33

11:39am Wed 13 Aug 14

pinkteapot says...

Absolutely bonkers. At peak times at weekends the Asda car park gridlocks so badly that it backs up and blocks the entrance road to Turner Rise and the North Station junction. Attempting to attract more traffic to the site without properly resolving this issue is insane.
Absolutely bonkers. At peak times at weekends the Asda car park gridlocks so badly that it backs up and blocks the entrance road to Turner Rise and the North Station junction. Attempting to attract more traffic to the site without properly resolving this issue is insane. pinkteapot
  • Score: 22

11:56am Wed 13 Aug 14

romantic says...

What is this "one-way loop system"? Is something about to be introduced which nobody knows about? If the people who decide this believe that 3 new shops will attract 5-6 cars an hour, then they are frankly deluded.

I believe that ECC's approach is to make it as difficult as possible to get through North Station, so that everybody will switch to buses, cycling, walking and Park+Ride. As somebody who cycles almost every day, this should appeal to me, but the flaw is that most people will not make this change.

If anybody knows about this one-way loop proposal, would be good to know some more, as it seems that ECC have plans which they are not revealing. Which is rarely good...
What is this "one-way loop system"? Is something about to be introduced which nobody knows about? If the people who decide this believe that 3 new shops will attract 5-6 cars an hour, then they are frankly deluded. I believe that ECC's approach is to make it as difficult as possible to get through North Station, so that everybody will switch to buses, cycling, walking and Park+Ride. As somebody who cycles almost every day, this should appeal to me, but the flaw is that most people will not make this change. If anybody knows about this one-way loop proposal, would be good to know some more, as it seems that ECC have plans which they are not revealing. Which is rarely good... romantic
  • Score: 10

1:45pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Closeguard says...

Well done colchester council. When will you pen pushers realise that this is a town NOT a city.
Colchester is TOO small. This town has major traffic prblems now.
Well done colchester council. When will you pen pushers realise that this is a town NOT a city. Colchester is TOO small. This town has major traffic prblems now. Closeguard
  • Score: 6

2:09pm Wed 13 Aug 14

eponymous coward says...

North Station roundabout is gridlock already. The impact of this new expansion of Turner rise will have minimal increase compared to the massive increase in housing in the surrounding area, ALL of which must travel through North Station. Of course these 5000 new homes are all going to walk and cycle to work according to the incompetents that make up both CBC and ECC planning and highways departments.
North Station roundabout is gridlock already. The impact of this new expansion of Turner rise will have minimal increase compared to the massive increase in housing in the surrounding area, ALL of which must travel through North Station. Of course these 5000 new homes are all going to walk and cycle to work according to the incompetents that make up both CBC and ECC planning and highways departments. eponymous coward
  • Score: 7

3:52pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Ontheball says...

CBC are really so incompetent and their useless planning department even worse, if they can get any worse. To allow further development on this site with only one access road on to the North Station roundabout is absolutely ludicrious, but then I only have to use the damned road system every day from West Bergholt. The estates to the left and right of Turner Road only have one access road. It just goes on and on.

Perhaps the idiots in the planning department could look at how the older estates were planned, with decent sized roads and multiple access points!!!!

NO development should be allowed with a single acess point. Look at the Woods factory site (700 units) and all in and out of one road on to Bergholt Road. I believe that the increased Lakelands estate will still only have the one access road (one should go directly on to the new bypass).
CBC are really so incompetent and their useless planning department even worse, if they can get any worse. To allow further development on this site with only one access road on to the North Station roundabout is absolutely ludicrious, but then I only have to use the damned road system every day from West Bergholt. The estates to the left and right of Turner Road only have one access road. It just goes on and on. Perhaps the idiots in the planning department could look at how the older estates were planned, with decent sized roads and multiple access points!!!! NO development should be allowed with a single acess point. Look at the Woods factory site (700 units) and all in and out of one road on to Bergholt Road. I believe that the increased Lakelands estate will still only have the one access road (one should go directly on to the new bypass). Ontheball
  • Score: 10

4:46pm Wed 13 Aug 14

romantic says...

Ontheball wrote:
CBC are really so incompetent and their useless planning department even worse, if they can get any worse. To allow further development on this site with only one access road on to the North Station roundabout is absolutely ludicrious, but then I only have to use the damned road system every day from West Bergholt. The estates to the left and right of Turner Road only have one access road. It just goes on and on.

Perhaps the idiots in the planning department could look at how the older estates were planned, with decent sized roads and multiple access points!!!!

NO development should be allowed with a single acess point. Look at the Woods factory site (700 units) and all in and out of one road on to Bergholt Road. I believe that the increased Lakelands estate will still only have the one access road (one should go directly on to the new bypass).
You're probably not going to like the new development either then, as the only point of access for cars will be at the top end of Nayland Road - all the plans are here:

http://www.colcheste
rnorth.co.uk/plannin
g-application/plans/

However, "The off-site traffic effects have been investigated as part of a detailed transport analysis and this highlights a series of improvements around North Station that will improve the current situation". So that's OK then.
[quote][p][bold]Ontheball[/bold] wrote: CBC are really so incompetent and their useless planning department even worse, if they can get any worse. To allow further development on this site with only one access road on to the North Station roundabout is absolutely ludicrious, but then I only have to use the damned road system every day from West Bergholt. The estates to the left and right of Turner Road only have one access road. It just goes on and on. Perhaps the idiots in the planning department could look at how the older estates were planned, with decent sized roads and multiple access points!!!! NO development should be allowed with a single acess point. Look at the Woods factory site (700 units) and all in and out of one road on to Bergholt Road. I believe that the increased Lakelands estate will still only have the one access road (one should go directly on to the new bypass).[/p][/quote]You're probably not going to like the new development either then, as the only point of access for cars will be at the top end of Nayland Road - all the plans are here: http://www.colcheste rnorth.co.uk/plannin g-application/plans/ However, "The off-site traffic effects have been investigated as part of a detailed transport analysis and this highlights a series of improvements around North Station that will improve the current situation". So that's OK then. romantic
  • Score: 2

5:27pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Frank Scully says...

Run everyone, the sky is falling in!
Run everyone, the sky is falling in! Frank Scully
  • Score: -2

2:58am Thu 14 Aug 14

Boris says...

Anyone already living in Mile End is to be pitied. Anyone choosing to move there now must be stark, staring bonkers.
Anyone already living in Mile End is to be pitied. Anyone choosing to move there now must be stark, staring bonkers. Boris
  • Score: 4

6:24am Thu 14 Aug 14

AVeryPrivateGentleman says...

Ontheball wrote:
CBC are really so incompetent and their useless planning department even worse, if they can get any worse. To allow further development on this site with only one access road on to the North Station roundabout is absolutely ludicrious, but then I only have to use the damned road system every day from West Bergholt. The estates to the left and right of Turner Road only have one access road. It just goes on and on.

Perhaps the idiots in the planning department could look at how the older estates were planned, with decent sized roads and multiple access points!!!!

NO development should be allowed with a single acess point. Look at the Woods factory site (700 units) and all in and out of one road on to Bergholt Road. I believe that the increased Lakelands estate will still only have the one access road (one should go directly on to the new bypass).
Yes you are quite right, the powers that be have only given them one road to get out of the development at Lakeland straight out on to one of the most fastest straights of road in the borough. At the moment to entrances are counted one open and one used by contractors soon to be opened. Mile end is a different quantum and the sums do not add up there. The multitude of roundabouts described by Boss Russell as probably the worst in the country is its Achilles heel: The area has become an over engorged situation similar to adding to many ingredients to a wedding cake ? With this proposal there is no end in sight. There is no point insulting them at Planning they have become so used to it now they seem anaesthetised by all the remarks: They will not listen nor will the councillors. The planning department has always been questionable and even more so of recent, one does not want to appear controversial but it has been a long time since we had a chap in the driving seat there. This is a pitiful decision born out of desperation and greed, with no foresight or intuition and is stereotypical of the deep rooted attitudes in Colchester trying to play catch up with Ipswich & Chelmsford:
[quote][p][bold]Ontheball[/bold] wrote: CBC are really so incompetent and their useless planning department even worse, if they can get any worse. To allow further development on this site with only one access road on to the North Station roundabout is absolutely ludicrious, but then I only have to use the damned road system every day from West Bergholt. The estates to the left and right of Turner Road only have one access road. It just goes on and on. Perhaps the idiots in the planning department could look at how the older estates were planned, with decent sized roads and multiple access points!!!! NO development should be allowed with a single acess point. Look at the Woods factory site (700 units) and all in and out of one road on to Bergholt Road. I believe that the increased Lakelands estate will still only have the one access road (one should go directly on to the new bypass).[/p][/quote]Yes you are quite right, the powers that be have only given them one road to get out of the development at Lakeland straight out on to one of the most fastest straights of road in the borough. At the moment to entrances are counted one open and one used by contractors soon to be opened. Mile end is a different quantum and the sums do not add up there. The multitude of roundabouts described by Boss Russell as probably the worst in the country is its Achilles heel: The area has become an over engorged situation similar to adding to many ingredients to a wedding cake ? With this proposal there is no end in sight. There is no point insulting them at Planning they have become so used to it now they seem anaesthetised by all the remarks: They will not listen nor will the councillors. The planning department has always been questionable and even more so of recent, one does not want to appear controversial but it has been a long time since we had a chap in the driving seat there. This is a pitiful decision born out of desperation and greed, with no foresight or intuition and is stereotypical of the deep rooted attitudes in Colchester trying to play catch up with Ipswich & Chelmsford: AVeryPrivateGentleman
  • Score: 6

8:40am Thu 14 Aug 14

stevedawson says...

Costa coffee is a very popular cafe it seems.
Costa coffee is a very popular cafe it seems. stevedawson
  • Score: 3

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