Why spend out on new bus stops for service that will be scrapped next month?

Why spend out on new bus stops for service that will be scrapped next month?

Why spend out on new bus stops for service that will be scrapped next month?

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RESIDENTS have questioned why Essex County Council has spent hundreds of pounds replacing bus stops and signs for a route that will be scrapped next month.

Hedingham Omnibuses is to axe its number three route, which connects Parsons Heath to Colchester town centre, the Hythe and Greenstead.

The service is not making any money and no rival bus companies have stepped in.

So residents were surprised to see contractors remove the bus stops and signs and replace them with new ones throughout the estate.

David Mummery, a member of Parsons Heath Residents’ Association, said: “The signs they’ve put up along the route are on roads which have no other bus service, apart from a school bus.

“What a flagrant waste of taxpayers’ money.

“I realise co-ordination is not a speciality of Essex County Council, but even it has got to stop spending money on contractors putting up new bus stop signs where they’re not needed.”

Mr Mummery said the wider issue was the number of residents in Parsons Heath who now face a long walk to Harwich Road to catch a bus, instead of catching one at Bridgebrook Green.

To get home from the bus stop, they must also walk up a hill along Hazelton Road.

Mr Mummery said: “My key concern is at Bridgebrook Green there is social housing, some of which is dedicated to the elderly and disabled, and the bus stop there is of enormous value to those people who find it hard to get around.”

He said he had contacted the county council’s highways department, and county and borough councillors, to see if the service could be reinstated, but had received a limited response.

An Essex County Council spokesman initially told us it believed Network Colchester had plans to take on the number three route.

However, Network Colchester said while it is taking on Hedingham’s number four service in west Colchester, it had no plans to launch a service in the east of the town.

The spokesman later said the money had come from developers and had to be spent on replacing buses, so the council decided to replace the soon to be redundant stops anyway.

It added its bus stop replacement programme across Colchester had started before there were any plans to scrap the service, so it completed the replacement in Parsons Heath anyway.

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6:33pm Fri 8 Aug 14

hughie-s says...

Once let changing a contract can involve various processes and costs including compensation for the contractor so putting up the stops could have worked out cheaper.
Once let changing a contract can involve various processes and costs including compensation for the contractor so putting up the stops could have worked out cheaper. hughie-s
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6:50pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Ontheball says...

First I have heard of Network Colchester taking on the 4 route. Nothing on their website about it. Well done to them for taking it on board.

I know that both the 3 and 4 services were reasonably well used, but many of the passengers were using passes.

Neither service under Hedingham was that good, as they started late and finished early as the buses were used for schools before and after the commercial service.
First I have heard of Network Colchester taking on the 4 route. Nothing on their website about it. Well done to them for taking it on board. I know that both the 3 and 4 services were reasonably well used, but many of the passengers were using passes. Neither service under Hedingham was that good, as they started late and finished early as the buses were used for schools before and after the commercial service. Ontheball
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9:35pm Fri 8 Aug 14

TheBrotherhoodOfTheBell says...

It is the reason why they cant afford subsidies to provide decent ECO buses and a decent modern day network.
Good old fashioned Worker Ants Led & Managed by M*r*ns ! Probably from outer space.
A time and motion calculated study, would uncover wastage across systems that beggar belief.
This is why nothing gets done in good old blight y and we are years behind our rivals.
Every single penny counts and I mean every penny ! Collectively we can move mountains with efficiency, foresight and decent management organisational abilities.
The British Army Called It Lions Led By Donkeys !
It is the reason why they cant afford subsidies to provide decent ECO buses and a decent modern day network. Good old fashioned Worker Ants Led & Managed by M*r*ns ! Probably from outer space. A time and motion calculated study, would uncover wastage across systems that beggar belief. This is why nothing gets done in good old blight y and we are years behind our rivals. Every single penny counts and I mean every penny ! Collectively we can move mountains with efficiency, foresight and decent management organisational abilities. The British Army Called It Lions Led By Donkeys ! TheBrotherhoodOfTheBell
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6:40am Sat 9 Aug 14

hughie-s says...

Ontheball wrote:
First I have heard of Network Colchester taking on the 4 route. Nothing on their website about it. Well done to them for taking it on board.

I know that both the 3 and 4 services were reasonably well used, but many of the passengers were using passes.

Neither service under Hedingham was that good, as they started late and finished early as the buses were used for schools before and after the commercial service.
Scroll to the bottom of the NC webpage, shown under "service update" running to same timetable which really needs tweaking as the first journey is nearly always late.

Hedingham could have made savings, around 15 miles a day, by combining the 3,4 & the Fordham part of the 80 although the cost of running buses 10-15 miles each way from the depots is a major cost, particularly on non school days when the services would have to carry the full cost.
[quote][p][bold]Ontheball[/bold] wrote: First I have heard of Network Colchester taking on the 4 route. Nothing on their website about it. Well done to them for taking it on board. I know that both the 3 and 4 services were reasonably well used, but many of the passengers were using passes. Neither service under Hedingham was that good, as they started late and finished early as the buses were used for schools before and after the commercial service.[/p][/quote]Scroll to the bottom of the NC webpage, shown under "service update" running to same timetable which really needs tweaking as the first journey is nearly always late. Hedingham could have made savings, around 15 miles a day, by combining the 3,4 & the Fordham part of the 80 although the cost of running buses 10-15 miles each way from the depots is a major cost, particularly on non school days when the services would have to carry the full cost. hughie-s
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9:12am Mon 11 Aug 14

brooks says...

Ontheball wrote:
First I have heard of Network Colchester taking on the 4 route. Nothing on their website about it. Well done to them for taking it on board.

I know that both the 3 and 4 services were reasonably well used, but many of the passengers were using passes.

Neither service under Hedingham was that good, as they started late and finished early as the buses were used for schools before and after the commercial service.
so what does it mean for the bus company if a passenger is using a bus pass? They still get paid do they not? or do they get a reduced payment? I do not really understand how it works?
[quote][p][bold]Ontheball[/bold] wrote: First I have heard of Network Colchester taking on the 4 route. Nothing on their website about it. Well done to them for taking it on board. I know that both the 3 and 4 services were reasonably well used, but many of the passengers were using passes. Neither service under Hedingham was that good, as they started late and finished early as the buses were used for schools before and after the commercial service.[/p][/quote]so what does it mean for the bus company if a passenger is using a bus pass? They still get paid do they not? or do they get a reduced payment? I do not really understand how it works? brooks
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12:44pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Slamdoor312 says...

Pass reimbursement from ECC is dire. It doesn't cover the cost of providing the service by a long way.

A flawed vote grabbing system from a flawed government, that won't fund it properly

At least NC are giving it a go and sensibly using a between schools resource, that would otherwise wouldn't be used at that time.
Pass reimbursement from ECC is dire. It doesn't cover the cost of providing the service by a long way. A flawed vote grabbing system from a flawed government, that won't fund it properly At least NC are giving it a go and sensibly using a between schools resource, that would otherwise wouldn't be used at that time. Slamdoor312
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