Parents fight new school bus policy

Parents fight new school bus policy

Parents fight new school bus policy

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PARENTS are fighting Essex County Council’s new bus pass policy.

Most secondary school children in Wivenhoe attend Colne Community School, in Brightlingsea, which is five miles away, and get free travel.

Under the council’s proposed new rules, they will only get free passes if they attend their nearest school, which is Colchester Academy, in Greenstead, four miles away.

Read the full story in today's Gazette.

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9:43am Fri 31 Jan 14

LeQueen says...

It gets worse, when they go to compulsory sixth form education you'll get nothing for transport. It's costing me in the region of £360 a term. I have no problem with compulsory 6th form education but frankly it's cheaper for me to drive them in.
It gets worse, when they go to compulsory sixth form education you'll get nothing for transport. It's costing me in the region of £360 a term. I have no problem with compulsory 6th form education but frankly it's cheaper for me to drive them in. LeQueen
  • Score: 7

10:29am Fri 31 Jan 14

Jack222 says...

Seems fair to me - schools are all the same overall. The main thing which impacts on results is HOME BACKGOUND. For example, far and away the strongest predictor of whether a child will go to University is if at least one parent went to University; some home has books; intelligent discussions; take children to Museums and so on. And some homes don't. Guess who lands in bottom sets?
Seems fair to me - schools are all the same overall. The main thing which impacts on results is HOME BACKGOUND. For example, far and away the strongest predictor of whether a child will go to University is if at least one parent went to University; some home has books; intelligent discussions; take children to Museums and so on. And some homes don't. Guess who lands in bottom sets? Jack222
  • Score: -1

10:37am Fri 31 Jan 14

Slamdoor312 says...

Don't see a problem.

If you have children, it's a lifestyle choice and with that comes consequences.

The consequence is you have to pay for your decision, it is not for everybody else to subsidise your choice.
Don't see a problem. If you have children, it's a lifestyle choice and with that comes consequences. The consequence is you have to pay for your decision, it is not for everybody else to subsidise your choice. Slamdoor312
  • Score: -11

11:29am Fri 31 Jan 14

Checkout says...

A very interesting opinion Slamdoor312. I predict a golden future for you in the Tory Party.
A very interesting opinion Slamdoor312. I predict a golden future for you in the Tory Party. Checkout
  • Score: 4

2:42pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Slamdoor312 says...

Not the Tory Party, or any other come to that..

Just sick and tired of subsidising those with kids, who think everybody else has to financially support them.
Not the Tory Party, or any other come to that.. Just sick and tired of subsidising those with kids, who think everybody else has to financially support them. Slamdoor312
  • Score: -7

4:44pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Roger Mainwood says...

A correction to the above article:

"Most secondary school children in Wivenhoe attend Colne Community School, in Brightlingsea, which is five miles away, and families earning less than £16,000 a year get free travel. "

The current policy is that Essex County Council operates a transport catchment area for the school, and this means that ALL pupils from feeder schools in the catchment area are eligible for free bus transport to school.

Children attending one of the following named primary schools is currently eligible for free transport:
Brightlingsea Junior, Alresford Primary, Great Bentley Primary, Elmstead Market Primary, Millfields Primary and Broomgrove Junior in Wivenhoe.

ECC propose to end this policy, and this could have serious consequences, not least the viability of the Colne School itself.

A petition has been started to oppose the changes. If you wish to sign, and for more information, head over to the Wivenhoe Forum and check out the announcement at the top of the page. It will remain in place until 4th February when the ECC decision is up for more discussion in Chelmsford having been called in by Cllr Julie Young.
A correction to the above article: "Most secondary school children in Wivenhoe attend Colne Community School, in Brightlingsea, which is five miles away, and families earning less than £16,000 a year get free travel. " The current policy is that Essex County Council operates a transport catchment area for the school, and this means that ALL pupils from feeder schools in the catchment area are eligible for free bus transport to school. Children attending one of the following named primary schools is currently eligible for free transport: Brightlingsea Junior, Alresford Primary, Great Bentley Primary, Elmstead Market Primary, Millfields Primary and Broomgrove Junior in Wivenhoe. ECC propose to end this policy, and this could have serious consequences, not least the viability of the Colne School itself. A petition has been started to oppose the changes. If you wish to sign, and for more information, head over to the Wivenhoe Forum and check out the announcement at the top of the page. It will remain in place until 4th February when the ECC decision is up for more discussion in Chelmsford having been called in by Cllr Julie Young. Roger Mainwood
  • Score: 6

6:04pm Fri 31 Jan 14

stevedawson says...

Bus passes for all students should be the norm, why for todays pensioners and not for students.free bus travel for all should be what we aspire to.vote ukip.
Bus passes for all students should be the norm, why for todays pensioners and not for students.free bus travel for all should be what we aspire to.vote ukip. stevedawson
  • Score: -4

12:35am Sat 1 Feb 14

Boris says...

Surely the cost of running a bus 5 miles in one direction can't be significantly more than 4 miles in the other direction, can it?
As Roger Mainwood has said, if pupils from Wivenhoe stop going to Colne Community School, it could threaten that very good school's viability.
In the long term, ECC might have to close that school and build a new one in Wivenhoe or east Colchester. How much would that cost?
Surely the cost of running a bus 5 miles in one direction can't be significantly more than 4 miles in the other direction, can it? As Roger Mainwood has said, if pupils from Wivenhoe stop going to Colne Community School, it could threaten that very good school's viability. In the long term, ECC might have to close that school and build a new one in Wivenhoe or east Colchester. How much would that cost? Boris
  • Score: 8

1:01am Sat 1 Feb 14

Boris says...

Here is the link to the petition mentioned by Roger:
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Here is the link to the petition mentioned by Roger: http://www.change.or g/petitions/essex-co unty-council-ask-the m-to-reject-the-prop osed-new-policy-for- free-school-transpor t?share_id=kKHRxDXLr k&utm_campaign=signa ture_receipt&utm_med ium=email&utm_source =share_petition Boris
  • Score: 1

8:28am Sat 1 Feb 14

Catchedicam says...

Slamdoor312 wrote:
Not the Tory Party, or any other come to that..

Just sick and tired of subsidising those with kids, who think everybody else has to financially support them.
You could equally argue that it's a lifestyle choice not to have kids, and the norm is to have kids, why should the 'norm' of society allow you and your ilk a free ride an not pay your way? I bet you drink at starbucks, shop at amazon and have a vodafone mobile.Kids are the future of society and as such we should collectively do all we can to nurture them and help them realise their potential, if that means a few quid for a bus to school then we should be happy to pay that. This petty example is an example of a sick society, one that knows the price of everything but the value of nothing, run by bean counters and tax avoiders. I am sick of people like you who don't want to contribute for the benefit of all, lack of contribution is why we have no streetlights after midnight, holes in our roads, the elderly not receiving adequate care, schools struggling to make ends meet, while footballers earn more in a week than many earn in a lifetime, and bankers receive bonuses for s c r e wing everyone. Rant over!
[quote][p][bold]Slamdoor312[/bold] wrote: Not the Tory Party, or any other come to that.. Just sick and tired of subsidising those with kids, who think everybody else has to financially support them.[/p][/quote]You could equally argue that it's a lifestyle choice not to have kids, and the norm is to have kids, why should the 'norm' of society allow you and your ilk a free ride an not pay your way? I bet you drink at starbucks, shop at amazon and have a vodafone mobile.Kids are the future of society and as such we should collectively do all we can to nurture them and help them realise their potential, if that means a few quid for a bus to school then we should be happy to pay that. This petty example is an example of a sick society, one that knows the price of everything but the value of nothing, run by bean counters and tax avoiders. I am sick of people like you who don't want to contribute for the benefit of all, lack of contribution is why we have no streetlights after midnight, holes in our roads, the elderly not receiving adequate care, schools struggling to make ends meet, while footballers earn more in a week than many earn in a lifetime, and bankers receive bonuses for s c r e wing everyone. Rant over! Catchedicam
  • Score: 9

1:54pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Harry-Brown says...

you take your chlld to the nearest school
you want it to go elsewhere you pay yourself
or get the grandparent like me to take them for nothing
you dont bum off others to pick and mix your desires
thats called social security or sponging
you do what my grand kinds do in our family
we pay our own way
we dont get bus passes for our kids
i have one and i dont use it, you can stick it where the sun dont shine for all i care.
i dont want to travel around and sit on some teenage dole sponger flob
and i dont want to be flobbed at either.
you take your chlld to the nearest school you want it to go elsewhere you pay yourself or get the grandparent like me to take them for nothing you dont bum off others to pick and mix your desires thats called social security or sponging you do what my grand kinds do in our family we pay our own way we dont get bus passes for our kids i have one and i dont use it, you can stick it where the sun dont shine for all i care. i dont want to travel around and sit on some teenage dole sponger flob and i dont want to be flobbed at either. Harry-Brown
  • Score: -7

2:14pm Sat 1 Feb 14

stevedawson says...

H B no relation to Boundersby?
H B no relation to Boundersby? stevedawson
  • Score: -1

2:25pm Sat 1 Feb 14

hughie-s says...

Boris wrote:
Surely the cost of running a bus 5 miles in one direction can't be significantly more than 4 miles in the other direction, can it?
As Roger Mainwood has said, if pupils from Wivenhoe stop going to Colne Community School, it could threaten that very good school's viability.
In the long term, ECC might have to close that school and build a new one in Wivenhoe or east Colchester. How much would that cost?
"Surely the cost of running a bus 5 miles in one direction can't be significantly more than 4 miles in the other direction, can it"

It you take into account that the contract price will include the cost of the buses running to/from depot plus the additional journey time getting stuck in traffic coming into Colchester could in fact work out more.

Harry-Brown - "you take your chlld to the nearest school" It is the most convenient school, bus every 15 mins to the door if they miss the school bus or for getting home from after school activities. Coming into Colchester would mean two buses or a long walk.
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: Surely the cost of running a bus 5 miles in one direction can't be significantly more than 4 miles in the other direction, can it? As Roger Mainwood has said, if pupils from Wivenhoe stop going to Colne Community School, it could threaten that very good school's viability. In the long term, ECC might have to close that school and build a new one in Wivenhoe or east Colchester. How much would that cost?[/p][/quote]"Surely the cost of running a bus 5 miles in one direction can't be significantly more than 4 miles in the other direction, can it" It you take into account that the contract price will include the cost of the buses running to/from depot plus the additional journey time getting stuck in traffic coming into Colchester could in fact work out more. Harry-Brown - "you take your chlld to the nearest school" It is the most convenient school, bus every 15 mins to the door if they miss the school bus or for getting home from after school activities. Coming into Colchester would mean two buses or a long walk. hughie-s
  • Score: 3

10:32pm Sat 1 Feb 14

jut1972 says...

Slamdoor312 wrote:
Don't see a problem.

If you have children, it's a lifestyle choice and with that comes consequences.

The consequence is you have to pay for your decision, it is not for everybody else to subsidise your choice.
Do you smoke? If so then I would like to reclaim my tax spent on keeping you alive.
[quote][p][bold]Slamdoor312[/bold] wrote: Don't see a problem. If you have children, it's a lifestyle choice and with that comes consequences. The consequence is you have to pay for your decision, it is not for everybody else to subsidise your choice.[/p][/quote]Do you smoke? If so then I would like to reclaim my tax spent on keeping you alive. jut1972
  • Score: 6

5:55pm Sun 2 Feb 14

JulieDurrell says...

We live in Wivenhoe and the Colne is our catchment school and has been for many generations. My eldest son started there in September and we are very happy with the school. It is the natural school for Wivenhoe as it is the only one on a direct bus route and the quickest to get to. My son's bus leaves at 8:20 and he is at his desk before the bell rings at 8:40. In addition, if my child needs to travel to school outside of normal school hours (e.g. to attend a doctors appts, after school club or an after school detention, etc) he can easily do so because he on a direct bus route.
We live in Wivenhoe and the Colne is our catchment school and has been for many generations. My eldest son started there in September and we are very happy with the school. It is the natural school for Wivenhoe as it is the only one on a direct bus route and the quickest to get to. My son's bus leaves at 8:20 and he is at his desk before the bell rings at 8:40. In addition, if my child needs to travel to school outside of normal school hours (e.g. to attend a doctors appts, after school club or an after school detention, etc) he can easily do so because he on a direct bus route. JulieDurrell
  • Score: 3

5:59pm Sun 2 Feb 14

JulieDurrell says...

If the transport policy goes ahead the Colne Community School will loose over half of its intake. Currently it takes from Brightlingsea, Wivenhoe, Elmstead Market and Alresford. The change of policy will mean only Brightlingsea children will be able to affordably access the school. This could make a school, which is currently considered one of the best comprehensives in Essex with an Ofsted rating as Outstanding, unviable and at risk of closure.
If the transport policy goes ahead the Colne Community School will loose over half of its intake. Currently it takes from Brightlingsea, Wivenhoe, Elmstead Market and Alresford. The change of policy will mean only Brightlingsea children will be able to affordably access the school. This could make a school, which is currently considered one of the best comprehensives in Essex with an Ofsted rating as Outstanding, unviable and at risk of closure. JulieDurrell
  • Score: 4

1:28am Mon 3 Feb 14

Boris says...

JulieDurrell wrote:
If the transport policy goes ahead the Colne Community School will loose over half of its intake. Currently it takes from Brightlingsea, Wivenhoe, Elmstead Market and Alresford. The change of policy will mean only Brightlingsea children will be able to affordably access the school. This could make a school, which is currently considered one of the best comprehensives in Essex with an Ofsted rating as Outstanding, unviable and at risk of closure.
Thanks Julie for confirming exactly what I suspected when I wrote my comment above. If ECC go ahead with this policy, they may save a few thousand pounds a year on bus fares, but they will have to spend many millions on building a new school elsewhere. And they will destroy a key Brightlingsea institution. It is utter madness. I do hope more people will sign the petition in the newxt couple of days.
Good luck to you all in your campaign.
[quote][p][bold]JulieDurrell[/bold] wrote: If the transport policy goes ahead the Colne Community School will loose over half of its intake. Currently it takes from Brightlingsea, Wivenhoe, Elmstead Market and Alresford. The change of policy will mean only Brightlingsea children will be able to affordably access the school. This could make a school, which is currently considered one of the best comprehensives in Essex with an Ofsted rating as Outstanding, unviable and at risk of closure.[/p][/quote]Thanks Julie for confirming exactly what I suspected when I wrote my comment above. If ECC go ahead with this policy, they may save a few thousand pounds a year on bus fares, but they will have to spend many millions on building a new school elsewhere. And they will destroy a key Brightlingsea institution. It is utter madness. I do hope more people will sign the petition in the newxt couple of days. Good luck to you all in your campaign. Boris
  • Score: 3

10:39pm Tue 4 Feb 14

blockpaver says...

Slamdoor312 is quite right in what they say, why should those who don’t have children expect to help educate them and generally equip the next generation?

I have no problem with this provided that Slamdoor and their cronies are tattooed with the words: “Refused to help bring up the next generation so is entitled to no help or support from it”. I’d willingly pay for the tattoo.

How far, Slam door, do you think you’d get if everyone had your view and there was no ” next generation” to cater for the previous one?

We all benefit from investment in bringing up children, whether we do it directly by having them, or vicariously by helping to fund their education.
Slamdoor312 is quite right in what they say, why should those who don’t have children expect to help educate them and generally equip the next generation? I have no problem with this provided that Slamdoor and their cronies are tattooed with the words: “Refused to help bring up the next generation so is entitled to no help or support from it”. I’d willingly pay for the tattoo. How far, Slam door, do you think you’d get if everyone had your view and there was no ” next generation” to cater for the previous one? We all benefit from investment in bringing up children, whether we do it directly by having them, or vicariously by helping to fund their education. blockpaver
  • Score: 5

12:55pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Arthur Fonzarelli says...

Get rid of Child Benefit completely.
Provide all school children with free school dinners and public transport to school. This will save money, guarantee all children access to their school and one hot meal per day.
Get rid of Child Benefit completely. Provide all school children with free school dinners and public transport to school. This will save money, guarantee all children access to their school and one hot meal per day. Arthur Fonzarelli
  • Score: 0

8:46pm Wed 5 Feb 14

jut1972 says...

The sums don't add up. Child benefit wouldn't cover a fortnight worth of school meals never mind transport.
The sums don't add up. Child benefit wouldn't cover a fortnight worth of school meals never mind transport. jut1972
  • Score: 1

12:00am Fri 7 Feb 14

A Very Private Gentleman says...

jut1972 wrote:
The sums don't add up. Child benefit wouldn't cover a fortnight worth of school meals never mind transport.
ok then brain of GB

get rid of CHILD BEN AND CHILD TAX CREDITS THAT WOULD DO THE JOB

a £2 a week cut in all DWP AND PIP allowances across the board/put into the kids education system would give them free bloody milk as well:
[quote][p][bold]jut1972[/bold] wrote: The sums don't add up. Child benefit wouldn't cover a fortnight worth of school meals never mind transport.[/p][/quote]ok then brain of GB get rid of CHILD BEN AND CHILD TAX CREDITS THAT WOULD DO THE JOB a £2 a week cut in all DWP AND PIP allowances across the board/put into the kids education system would give them free bloody milk as well: A Very Private Gentleman
  • Score: -2

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