Homes plan for former council offices

Gazette: Angel Court, Colchester Angel Court, Colchester

FORMER council offices in Colchester High Street look set to become flats.

Plans for restaurants, pubs, shops, offices and homes at Angel Court were set out by developers City and Country four years ago.

The Stansted-based developers have now given notice of its plans for 31 homes - 18 one-bedroom and 13 two-bedroom units - on the top two floors of part of the site.

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12:20pm Sun 26 Jan 14

SOMETHING2SAY says...

NICE !!!! The very idea of living metres away from a nightclub , across the road from a taxi rank ,and a takeaway..and all the early morning punters will make for a place to live !!!
NICE !!!! The very idea of living metres away from a nightclub , across the road from a taxi rank ,and a takeaway..and all the early morning punters will make for a place to live !!! SOMETHING2SAY
  • Score: 8

2:53pm Sun 26 Jan 14

jagxman says...

....and a pop-up urinal outside your front door!,
....and a pop-up urinal outside your front door!, jagxman
  • Score: 12

3:13pm Sun 26 Jan 14

angryman!!! says...

I'm sure it will appeal to some people but it seems confusing. The council will not let large retailers move into places like tollgate as they say their trying to preserve town, but their willing at the same time to let large amounts of town be turned to homes?
Surely the st Mary's development or the sheepen road would have been good places for likes of john Lewis, toys are us etc. Also we continue to see so many buildings in town get turned into residential use, look at crouch street. It seem the town that the council is trying to preserve is being killed by the same planners.
I'm sure it will appeal to some people but it seems confusing. The council will not let large retailers move into places like tollgate as they say their trying to preserve town, but their willing at the same time to let large amounts of town be turned to homes? Surely the st Mary's development or the sheepen road would have been good places for likes of john Lewis, toys are us etc. Also we continue to see so many buildings in town get turned into residential use, look at crouch street. It seem the town that the council is trying to preserve is being killed by the same planners. angryman!!!
  • Score: 6

3:41pm Sun 26 Jan 14

Reginald47 says...

angryman!!! wrote:
I'm sure it will appeal to some people but it seems confusing. The council will not let large retailers move into places like tollgate as they say their trying to preserve town, but their willing at the same time to let large amounts of town be turned to homes? Surely the st Mary's development or the sheepen road would have been good places for likes of john Lewis, toys are us etc. Also we continue to see so many buildings in town get turned into residential use, look at crouch street. It seem the town that the council is trying to preserve is being killed by the same planners.
The council don't own the building and nothing has received planning permission yet so aren't you a bit previous! The council isn't doing anything.
[quote][p][bold]angryman!!![/bold] wrote: I'm sure it will appeal to some people but it seems confusing. The council will not let large retailers move into places like tollgate as they say their trying to preserve town, but their willing at the same time to let large amounts of town be turned to homes? Surely the st Mary's development or the sheepen road would have been good places for likes of john Lewis, toys are us etc. Also we continue to see so many buildings in town get turned into residential use, look at crouch street. It seem the town that the council is trying to preserve is being killed by the same planners.[/p][/quote]The council don't own the building and nothing has received planning permission yet so aren't you a bit previous! The council isn't doing anything. Reginald47
  • Score: 4

9:06pm Sun 26 Jan 14

jut1972 says...

Reginald47 wrote:
angryman!!! wrote:
I'm sure it will appeal to some people but it seems confusing. The council will not let large retailers move into places like tollgate as they say their trying to preserve town, but their willing at the same time to let large amounts of town be turned to homes? Surely the st Mary's development or the sheepen road would have been good places for likes of john Lewis, toys are us etc. Also we continue to see so many buildings in town get turned into residential use, look at crouch street. It seem the town that the council is trying to preserve is being killed by the same planners.
The council don't own the building and nothing has received planning permission yet so aren't you a bit previous! The council isn't doing anything.
Your last sentence is the problem Reg
[quote][p][bold]Reginald47[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angryman!!![/bold] wrote: I'm sure it will appeal to some people but it seems confusing. The council will not let large retailers move into places like tollgate as they say their trying to preserve town, but their willing at the same time to let large amounts of town be turned to homes? Surely the st Mary's development or the sheepen road would have been good places for likes of john Lewis, toys are us etc. Also we continue to see so many buildings in town get turned into residential use, look at crouch street. It seem the town that the council is trying to preserve is being killed by the same planners.[/p][/quote]The council don't own the building and nothing has received planning permission yet so aren't you a bit previous! The council isn't doing anything.[/p][/quote]Your last sentence is the problem Reg jut1972
  • Score: 3

9:27pm Sun 26 Jan 14

angryman!!! says...

I'm pretty sure the council have given permission for change of use to residential, like they have we so much of the town, which seems baffling as they say they are trying to preserve the town.
I agree that they should be doing lots to keep business in town but don't think turning commercial properties into residential or mixed are the way ahead.
I'm pretty sure the council have given permission for change of use to residential, like they have we so much of the town, which seems baffling as they say they are trying to preserve the town. I agree that they should be doing lots to keep business in town but don't think turning commercial properties into residential or mixed are the way ahead. angryman!!!
  • Score: 2

10:55pm Sun 26 Jan 14

Hamiltonandy says...

Is "Angryman" objecting to coverting upper floors into residential while keeping the ground floor as a shop?
That has happened in several locations and the ground floor is much higher rated for business tax than the upper floors would have been. I asked the business rates people on one property and in that case it was twice as much.
It could be those who live and work in town would not need cars so cutting traffic congestion. Also pensioners might prefer to live in town and if hard of hearing not mind the late night revellers! Balkerne Gardens is popular because it is so central.
Is "Angryman" objecting to coverting upper floors into residential while keeping the ground floor as a shop? That has happened in several locations and the ground floor is much higher rated for business tax than the upper floors would have been. I asked the business rates people on one property and in that case it was twice as much. It could be those who live and work in town would not need cars so cutting traffic congestion. Also pensioners might prefer to live in town and if hard of hearing not mind the late night revellers! Balkerne Gardens is popular because it is so central. Hamiltonandy
  • Score: 4

1:02am Mon 27 Jan 14

Boris says...

There are in fact too many shops and restaurants in the town centre, which is why so many of them close after a short while. As Andy says, residential upper floors and commercial ground floors is an ideal way to go. This is the way it works in more civilised countries such as Italy, where almost everyone is able to walk to work. Commuting is the bane of modern society, especially in dormitory-type towns like Colchester. Anything that helps to reduce commuting is surely a good thing.
But,. of course, the CBC offices should have stayed in the town centre, rather than being moved to Rowan House, a location hostile to visitors.
There are in fact too many shops and restaurants in the town centre, which is why so many of them close after a short while. As Andy says, residential upper floors and commercial ground floors is an ideal way to go. This is the way it works in more civilised countries such as Italy, where almost everyone is able to walk to work. Commuting is the bane of modern society, especially in dormitory-type towns like Colchester. Anything that helps to reduce commuting is surely a good thing. But,. of course, the CBC offices should have stayed in the town centre, rather than being moved to Rowan House, a location hostile to visitors. Boris
  • Score: 0

9:39am Mon 27 Jan 14

TheCaptain says...

Boris wrote:
There are in fact too many shops and restaurants in the town centre, which is why so many of them close after a short while. As Andy says, residential upper floors and commercial ground floors is an ideal way to go. This is the way it works in more civilised countries such as Italy, where almost everyone is able to walk to work. Commuting is the bane of modern society, especially in dormitory-type towns like Colchester. Anything that helps to reduce commuting is surely a good thing.
But,. of course, the CBC offices should have stayed in the town centre, rather than being moved to Rowan House, a location hostile to visitors.
The majority of public facing services moved to the library rather than Rowan House.
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: There are in fact too many shops and restaurants in the town centre, which is why so many of them close after a short while. As Andy says, residential upper floors and commercial ground floors is an ideal way to go. This is the way it works in more civilised countries such as Italy, where almost everyone is able to walk to work. Commuting is the bane of modern society, especially in dormitory-type towns like Colchester. Anything that helps to reduce commuting is surely a good thing. But,. of course, the CBC offices should have stayed in the town centre, rather than being moved to Rowan House, a location hostile to visitors.[/p][/quote]The majority of public facing services moved to the library rather than Rowan House. TheCaptain
  • Score: 0

11:21am Mon 27 Jan 14

Catchedicam says...

Also don't forget that the government changed the planning rules so that offices(B1) can be converted to residential(C3) without the need for planning permission. So essentially CBC could do nothing about it.
Also don't forget that the government changed the planning rules so that offices(B1) can be converted to residential(C3) without the need for planning permission. So essentially CBC could do nothing about it. Catchedicam
  • Score: 3

12:33pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Scoot says...

Question should be asked whether the profits some of the directors/owners of the developers will take from this will be spent on renovations/repairs to their own property, even if minimal or will they just pocket it and expect the residents of St Osyth to "pay" the price by appealing their development plans.....
Question should be asked whether the profits some of the directors/owners of the developers will take from this will be spent on renovations/repairs to their own property, even if minimal or will they just pocket it and expect the residents of St Osyth to "pay" the price by appealing their development plans..... Scoot
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