£6 million finally found for Colchester's first park and ride

£6 million finally found for Colchester's first park and ride

£6 million finally found for Colchester's first park and ride

First published in News

NEARLY £6 million has been set aside by council bosses to build Colchester's first park and ride.

The decision, part of Essex County Council's proposed budget for next year, follows a series of failed bids for government funding.

Work will start on the long-awaited Cuckoo Farm facility later this year.

See Monday's Gazette for the full story.

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4:32pm Fri 17 Jan 14

AngryManNewTown says...

Finally, it's about time. Chelmsford already has 2!! Just need to ensure that it happens this time!!!!
Finally, it's about time. Chelmsford already has 2!! Just need to ensure that it happens this time!!!! AngryManNewTown
  • Score: 12

4:44pm Fri 17 Jan 14

wardyt says...

I'm sure they will F*&k this up like the bus station & bus lane.
I'm sure they will F*&k this up like the bus station & bus lane. wardyt
  • Score: 12

4:47pm Fri 17 Jan 14

A Very Private Gentleman says...

What an aberrant waste of public monies.
This is an absolute affront and insult to common decency and practicality.

Park and ride what for?

Park and walk should be the answer ie park in beverly road and walk into town all day remove the restrictions or at least widen them.

If you cannot walk then get bus technically you should not be driving, although admittedly some wheelchair users have adapted cars, that is a different story altogether.
Park & Ride is all about making money....None of the locals in Ipswich use Park & Ride.
Why bother?
What an aberrant waste of public monies. This is an absolute affront and insult to common decency and practicality. Park and ride what for? Park and walk should be the answer ie park in beverly road and walk into town all day remove the restrictions or at least widen them. If you cannot walk then get bus technically you should not be driving, although admittedly some wheelchair users have adapted cars, that is a different story altogether. Park & Ride is all about making money....None of the locals in Ipswich use Park & Ride. Why bother? A Very Private Gentleman
  • Score: -29

4:57pm Fri 17 Jan 14

SOMETHING2SAY says...

6 MILLION ???? Better used on sorting crime / pcso's ,the turning back on of street lights , potholes....the list is endless !! And throwing out the d**** who make these decisions !!!
6 MILLION ???? Better used on sorting crime / pcso's ,the turning back on of street lights , potholes....the list is endless !! And throwing out the d**** who make these decisions !!! SOMETHING2SAY
  • Score: 6

6:10pm Fri 17 Jan 14

jut1972 says...

Jesus some people are never happy.
Jesus some people are never happy. jut1972
  • Score: 15

8:29pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Route88 says...

How on earth does setting up a park and ride scheme cost six million pounds?
How on earth does setting up a park and ride scheme cost six million pounds? Route88
  • Score: 12

9:29pm Fri 17 Jan 14

wardyt says...

Route88 wrote:
How on earth does setting up a park and ride scheme cost six million pounds?
Brown envelopes.
[quote][p][bold]Route88[/bold] wrote: How on earth does setting up a park and ride scheme cost six million pounds?[/p][/quote]Brown envelopes. wardyt
  • Score: 1

10:39pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Reginald47 says...

Park and ride sites are usually made with concrete and tarmac. I suppose you could try brown envelopes, but wouldn't they get a bit wet in rain?
Park and ride sites are usually made with concrete and tarmac. I suppose you could try brown envelopes, but wouldn't they get a bit wet in rain? Reginald47
  • Score: 10

11:50pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Hamiltonandy says...

When the council could not decide where a P&R should go I asked at a council meeting why a temporary park and ride could not be tried in unused land. Costs could have been minimised by using railway sleepers and geotextile sheeting to ensure a permeable but stable surface. The council staff told me they would only consider a permanent site using lots of concrete and it would cost £1million. Guess inflation and higher expectations of facilities means it will need to make a good return from the motorist to cover its costs.
When the council could not decide where a P&R should go I asked at a council meeting why a temporary park and ride could not be tried in unused land. Costs could have been minimised by using railway sleepers and geotextile sheeting to ensure a permeable but stable surface. The council staff told me they would only consider a permanent site using lots of concrete and it would cost £1million. Guess inflation and higher expectations of facilities means it will need to make a good return from the motorist to cover its costs. Hamiltonandy
  • Score: 0

12:25am Sat 18 Jan 14

Noah4x4 says...

Great news for the football stadium; provided it can be used by footie fans.
Great news for the football stadium; provided it can be used by footie fans. Noah4x4
  • Score: 5

8:04am Sat 18 Jan 14

Say It As It Is OK? says...

Noah4x4 wrote:
Great news for the football stadium; provided it can be used by footie fans.
Agree, but don't expect ECC will think this through, they need to be lobbied to agree it can be used because it would effectively be a Park and Walk on match day afternoons. It would also need to be managed for evening games because normally a P&R is not open in the evenings. CBC should be talking with ECC to facilitate this proposal, well in advance!

I suspect, if they allow it it won't be free to use, but having use of the P&R may prompt Col U to reduce their own parking charges for supporters at the stadium and it may help alleviate, or at least reduce, match day parking issues experienced by residents in and around Mile End.
[quote][p][bold]Noah4x4[/bold] wrote: Great news for the football stadium; provided it can be used by footie fans.[/p][/quote]Agree, but don't expect ECC will think this through, they need to be lobbied to agree it can be used because it would effectively be a Park and Walk on match day afternoons. It would also need to be managed for evening games because normally a P&R is not open in the evenings. CBC should be talking with ECC to facilitate this proposal, well in advance! I suspect, if they allow it it won't be free to use, but having use of the P&R may prompt Col U to reduce their own parking charges for supporters at the stadium and it may help alleviate, or at least reduce, match day parking issues experienced by residents in and around Mile End. Say It As It Is OK?
  • Score: 8

11:23am Sat 18 Jan 14

jut1972 says...

Route88 wrote:
How on earth does setting up a park and ride scheme cost six million pounds?
I'm sure the set up cost was once set at 3m, so presumably the 6m is set up and running costs.
[quote][p][bold]Route88[/bold] wrote: How on earth does setting up a park and ride scheme cost six million pounds?[/p][/quote]I'm sure the set up cost was once set at 3m, so presumably the 6m is set up and running costs. jut1972
  • Score: -1

12:03pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Bengreen1980 says...

By the time it opens, buses will have been replaced by automated personal drones...
By the time it opens, buses will have been replaced by automated personal drones... Bengreen1980
  • Score: 9

7:36pm Sat 18 Jan 14

hughie-s says...

Haven't we been here before?

Thursday 5th September 2013 -

NEARLY £6 million of government cash has finally been found to build Colchester’s first park and ride.

The South East local enterprise partnership has been awarded £65.9 million of Department for Transport funding and chosen to provisionally award it for seven schemes across Essex, Kent and Sussex.

Included is £5.9 million for a 1,000 space park and ride at Cuckoo Farm along with “bus priority” improvements at the North Station Roundabout bottleneck.

A County Hall spokesman said although the money would not be available until 2015, the park and ride should be open by the end of 2014.
Haven't we been here before? Thursday 5th September 2013 - NEARLY £6 million of government cash has finally been found to build Colchester’s first park and ride. The South East local enterprise partnership has been awarded £65.9 million of Department for Transport funding and chosen to provisionally award it for seven schemes across Essex, Kent and Sussex. Included is £5.9 million for a 1,000 space park and ride at Cuckoo Farm along with “bus priority” improvements at the North Station Roundabout bottleneck. A County Hall spokesman said although the money would not be available until 2015, the park and ride should be open by the end of 2014. hughie-s
  • Score: 5

8:18pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Checkout says...

Colchester will never receive a fair deal from ECC. Our Conservative representatives on the county council are a disgrace and need to either start fighting Colchester's corner or be dispensed with.
Chelmsford's third park and ride will be open before our first, what is really going on?
Colchester will never receive a fair deal from ECC. Our Conservative representatives on the county council are a disgrace and need to either start fighting Colchester's corner or be dispensed with. Chelmsford's third park and ride will be open before our first, what is really going on? Checkout
  • Score: 15

8:03am Sun 19 Jan 14

Say It As It Is OK? says...

Checkout wrote:
Colchester will never receive a fair deal from ECC. Our Conservative representatives on the county council are a disgrace and need to either start fighting Colchester's corner or be dispensed with.
Chelmsford's third park and ride will be open before our first, what is really going on?
Unitary Authority status is what Colchester needs. Then the blame can rest firmly on the shoulders of One authority and One set of councillors. As it is now CBC and ECC are continually bickering and blaming each other.

Recent Instances:
High Street Bus Lane Fiasco
£2,000,000 bus stop at Osborne Street
Potholes, Potholes and Potholes
Schools infrastructure has not kept pace with housing development.
North Station Gridlock Fiasco
Street Lighting

I'm sure the list goes on but one thing is sure Colchester residents don't get value from ECC and our County Councillors seem content to fall in line with what the authority decide for us.
[quote][p][bold]Checkout[/bold] wrote: Colchester will never receive a fair deal from ECC. Our Conservative representatives on the county council are a disgrace and need to either start fighting Colchester's corner or be dispensed with. Chelmsford's third park and ride will be open before our first, what is really going on?[/p][/quote]Unitary Authority status is what Colchester needs. Then the blame can rest firmly on the shoulders of One authority and One set of councillors. As it is now CBC and ECC are continually bickering and blaming each other. Recent Instances: High Street Bus Lane Fiasco £2,000,000 bus stop at Osborne Street Potholes, Potholes and Potholes Schools infrastructure has not kept pace with housing development. North Station Gridlock Fiasco Street Lighting I'm sure the list goes on but one thing is sure Colchester residents don't get value from ECC and our County Councillors seem content to fall in line with what the authority decide for us. Say It As It Is OK?
  • Score: 13

8:14am Sun 19 Jan 14

super waluigi says...

Although 6million quid sounds like a lot, the Tarmac, concrete, line painting and actual building to hold customers, paper work and staff won't be cheap.
Then there is the bus lane which will cause changes in signs on and off the road to pay for, the disruption to traffic flow and diversions, contractors and employment.

The real question is........
Does Colchester really need a park and ride?
Just because Chelmsford has two, it means nothing. London has none that I know of. It's not that Chelmsford is better than London but because it suits that particular town more.
Although 6million quid sounds like a lot, the Tarmac, concrete, line painting and actual building to hold customers, paper work and staff won't be cheap. Then there is the bus lane which will cause changes in signs on and off the road to pay for, the disruption to traffic flow and diversions, contractors and employment. The real question is........ Does Colchester really need a park and ride? Just because Chelmsford has two, it means nothing. London has none that I know of. It's not that Chelmsford is better than London but because it suits that particular town more. super waluigi
  • Score: 2

10:28am Mon 20 Jan 14

Slamdoor312 says...

£6m

Apart from building on the Cuckoo Farm site, buses and staff need to be provided for it - that doesn't come free.

Or perhaps you think it does ??.

Still, quite a bargain compared to the ridiculous FirstSite as at least the P&R will get used.

The concern should be the competence of the council to get it right. Who prove constantly that they just aren't fit for purpose
£6m Apart from building on the Cuckoo Farm site, buses and staff need to be provided for it - that doesn't come free. Or perhaps you think it does ??. Still, quite a bargain compared to the ridiculous FirstSite as at least the P&R will get used. The concern should be the competence of the council to get it right. Who prove constantly that they just aren't fit for purpose Slamdoor312
  • Score: 2

1:00pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Red Tape 2 says...

The arrival of P&R will be accompanied by a new bus lane under North Station so other road users will share one lane under the bridge - now won't that be fun - not! I guess council logic is for everyone to drive out of Colchester, leave their cars at the P&R and pay to get a bus back?
The arrival of P&R will be accompanied by a new bus lane under North Station so other road users will share one lane under the bridge - now won't that be fun - not! I guess council logic is for everyone to drive out of Colchester, leave their cars at the P&R and pay to get a bus back? Red Tape 2
  • Score: 2

2:04pm Tue 21 Jan 14

TheCaptain says...

Red Tape 2 wrote:
The arrival of P&R will be accompanied by a new bus lane under North Station so other road users will share one lane under the bridge - now won't that be fun - not! I guess council logic is for everyone to drive out of Colchester, leave their cars at the P&R and pay to get a bus back?
Or use the existing extensive bus services in that part of the town.
[quote][p][bold]Red Tape 2[/bold] wrote: The arrival of P&R will be accompanied by a new bus lane under North Station so other road users will share one lane under the bridge - now won't that be fun - not! I guess council logic is for everyone to drive out of Colchester, leave their cars at the P&R and pay to get a bus back?[/p][/quote]Or use the existing extensive bus services in that part of the town. TheCaptain
  • Score: 1

4:48pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Red Tape 2 says...

Extensive - or did you mean Expensive...
Extensive - or did you mean Expensive... Red Tape 2
  • Score: 0

11:26am Wed 22 Jan 14

jim_bo says...

£3.20 return from here to town, each!

I can park all day for that. No incentive to us public transport. The answer isn't to increase the parking fees, no buy the buses back and run them for £1 inner zone and £2 outer zone then more people would use them.
£3.20 return from here to town, each! I can park all day for that. No incentive to us public transport. The answer isn't to increase the parking fees, no buy the buses back and run them for £1 inner zone and £2 outer zone then more people would use them. jim_bo
  • Score: 2

9:09pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Suffolkcommuter says...

Why should poor people using buses get to work quicker than me in my Mercedes? How about a commuter lane!
Why should poor people using buses get to work quicker than me in my Mercedes? How about a commuter lane! Suffolkcommuter
  • Score: -2

11:45pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Red Tape 2 says...

This principle for me is why should private bus companies that are run for profit be given public funded road space for their exclusive use? And why do they powers that be think that people having bought a car, paid to tax, mot and insure it, will then be forced to leave it at home and pay again for public transport?
This principle for me is why should private bus companies that are run for profit be given public funded road space for their exclusive use? And why do they powers that be think that people having bought a car, paid to tax, mot and insure it, will then be forced to leave it at home and pay again for public transport? Red Tape 2
  • Score: 2

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