Disabled council tenant low priority for new home

Helena Harrison shows how unsuitable her council home is for wheelchair users.

Helena Harrison shows how unsuitable her council home is for wheelchair users.

First published in News Gazette: Photograph of the Author by , Senior reporter

A DISABLED woman who needs a wheelchair-friendly home has been rated low-priority for re-housing by the council.

Helena Harrison became registered disabled in early December after suffering degenerative spinal problems and needs a wheelchair to help reduce pain, but her council house in Savill Road, Old Heath, is too small.

However Mrs Harrison, 42, was shocked to find the pair were only band D priority-rated. The bands run from A to E, with A the most urgent.

A Colchester Council spokesman said: “Colchester Council operates a priority ratings system to ensure those with the greatest need receive the help they need as quickly as practical. Additional factors can influence priority banding, for example previous problems with rent arrears.”

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7:06pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Say It As It Is OK? says...

In reality most homes are not wheel chair friendly. Relocating is not usually that easy. My Mum, god rest her sole, became wheelchair bound and we arranged for a builder/joiner to adapt the entrance and front porch of her house to improve access. Why can't that be done here, I'm sure her family could help.
In reality most homes are not wheel chair friendly. Relocating is not usually that easy. My Mum, god rest her sole, became wheelchair bound and we arranged for a builder/joiner to adapt the entrance and front porch of her house to improve access. Why can't that be done here, I'm sure her family could help. Say It As It Is OK?
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8:55pm Tue 8 Jan 13

PROOFREADER says...

If she wants an adapted bungalow the only way she will get one at her age is if she is on the council's transfer incentive scheme ie wanting to move to a property will less bedrooms. Bungalows adapted for the disabled only go to people forty and over if they are on the scheme . An adapted flat may be her only option if she really wants to move. She should contact the council about the possibility of having the property she is living in adapted.
If she wants an adapted bungalow the only way she will get one at her age is if she is on the council's transfer incentive scheme ie wanting to move to a property will less bedrooms. Bungalows adapted for the disabled only go to people forty and over if they are on the scheme . An adapted flat may be her only option if she really wants to move. She should contact the council about the possibility of having the property she is living in adapted. PROOFREADER
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8:55pm Tue 8 Jan 13

PROOFREADER says...

If she wants an adapted bungalow the only way she will get one at her age is if she is on the council's transfer incentive scheme ie wanting to move to a property will less bedrooms. Bungalows adapted for the disabled only go to people forty and over if they are on the scheme . An adapted flat may be her only option if she really wants to move. She should contact the council about the possibility of having the property she is living in adapted.
If she wants an adapted bungalow the only way she will get one at her age is if she is on the council's transfer incentive scheme ie wanting to move to a property will less bedrooms. Bungalows adapted for the disabled only go to people forty and over if they are on the scheme . An adapted flat may be her only option if she really wants to move. She should contact the council about the possibility of having the property she is living in adapted. PROOFREADER
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8:56pm Tue 8 Jan 13

PROOFREADER says...

PROOFREADER wrote:
If she wants an adapted bungalow the only way she will get one at her age is if she is on the council's transfer incentive scheme ie wanting to move to a property will less bedrooms. Bungalows adapted for the disabled only go to people forty and over if they are on the scheme . An adapted flat may be her only option if she really wants to move. She should contact the council about the possibility of having the property she is living in adapted.
with less bedrooms not will less bedrooms.
[quote][p][bold]PROOFREADER[/bold] wrote: If she wants an adapted bungalow the only way she will get one at her age is if she is on the council's transfer incentive scheme ie wanting to move to a property will less bedrooms. Bungalows adapted for the disabled only go to people forty and over if they are on the scheme . An adapted flat may be her only option if she really wants to move. She should contact the council about the possibility of having the property she is living in adapted.[/p][/quote]with less bedrooms not will less bedrooms. PROOFREADER
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9:30pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Boris says...

PROOFREADER wrote:
PROOFREADER wrote:
If she wants an adapted bungalow the only way she will get one at her age is if she is on the council's transfer incentive scheme ie wanting to move to a property will less bedrooms. Bungalows adapted for the disabled only go to people forty and over if they are on the scheme . An adapted flat may be her only option if she really wants to move. She should contact the council about the possibility of having the property she is living in adapted.
with less bedrooms not will less bedrooms.
with fewer bedrooms
[quote][p][bold]PROOFREADER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PROOFREADER[/bold] wrote: If she wants an adapted bungalow the only way she will get one at her age is if she is on the council's transfer incentive scheme ie wanting to move to a property will less bedrooms. Bungalows adapted for the disabled only go to people forty and over if they are on the scheme . An adapted flat may be her only option if she really wants to move. She should contact the council about the possibility of having the property she is living in adapted.[/p][/quote]with less bedrooms not will less bedrooms.[/p][/quote]with fewer bedrooms Boris
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9:31pm Tue 8 Jan 13

yum!yum! says...

Say It As It Is OK? wrote:
In reality most homes are not wheel chair friendly. Relocating is not usually that easy. My Mum, god rest her sole, became wheelchair bound and we arranged for a builder/joiner to adapt the entrance and front porch of her house to improve access. Why can't that be done here, I'm sure her family could help.
It's soul not sole!
[quote][p][bold]Say It As It Is OK?[/bold] wrote: In reality most homes are not wheel chair friendly. Relocating is not usually that easy. My Mum, god rest her sole, became wheelchair bound and we arranged for a builder/joiner to adapt the entrance and front porch of her house to improve access. Why can't that be done here, I'm sure her family could help.[/p][/quote]It's soul not sole! yum!yum!
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10:04pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Say It As It Is OK? says...

yum!yum! wrote:
Say It As It Is OK? wrote:
In reality most homes are not wheel chair friendly. Relocating is not usually that easy. My Mum, god rest her sole, became wheelchair bound and we arranged for a builder/joiner to adapt the entrance and front porch of her house to improve access. Why can't that be done here, I'm sure her family could help.
It's soul not sole!
Oppps a day sey!!!
[quote][p][bold]yum!yum![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Say It As It Is OK?[/bold] wrote: In reality most homes are not wheel chair friendly. Relocating is not usually that easy. My Mum, god rest her sole, became wheelchair bound and we arranged for a builder/joiner to adapt the entrance and front porch of her house to improve access. Why can't that be done here, I'm sure her family could help.[/p][/quote]It's soul not sole![/p][/quote]Oppps a day sey!!! Say It As It Is OK?
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10:32pm Tue 8 Jan 13

PROOFREADER says...

Boris wrote:
PROOFREADER wrote:
PROOFREADER wrote:
If she wants an adapted bungalow the only way she will get one at her age is if she is on the council's transfer incentive scheme ie wanting to move to a property will less bedrooms. Bungalows adapted for the disabled only go to people forty and over if they are on the scheme . An adapted flat may be her only option if she really wants to move. She should contact the council about the possibility of having the property she is living in adapted.
with less bedrooms not will less bedrooms.
with fewer bedrooms
both are correct.
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PROOFREADER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PROOFREADER[/bold] wrote: If she wants an adapted bungalow the only way she will get one at her age is if she is on the council's transfer incentive scheme ie wanting to move to a property will less bedrooms. Bungalows adapted for the disabled only go to people forty and over if they are on the scheme . An adapted flat may be her only option if she really wants to move. She should contact the council about the possibility of having the property she is living in adapted.[/p][/quote]with less bedrooms not will less bedrooms.[/p][/quote]with fewer bedrooms[/p][/quote]both are correct. PROOFREADER
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11:09pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Boris says...

PROOFREADER wrote:
Boris wrote:
PROOFREADER wrote:
PROOFREADER wrote:
If she wants an adapted bungalow the only way she will get one at her age is if she is on the council's transfer incentive scheme ie wanting to move to a property will less bedrooms. Bungalows adapted for the disabled only go to people forty and over if they are on the scheme . An adapted flat may be her only option if she really wants to move. She should contact the council about the possibility of having the property she is living in adapted.
with less bedrooms not will less bedrooms.
with fewer bedrooms
both are correct.
Where you can count something, as with number of bedrooms, you use "fewer". Where you can't count it, for example flour or sugar, you use "less".
[quote][p][bold]PROOFREADER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PROOFREADER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PROOFREADER[/bold] wrote: If she wants an adapted bungalow the only way she will get one at her age is if she is on the council's transfer incentive scheme ie wanting to move to a property will less bedrooms. Bungalows adapted for the disabled only go to people forty and over if they are on the scheme . An adapted flat may be her only option if she really wants to move. She should contact the council about the possibility of having the property she is living in adapted.[/p][/quote]with less bedrooms not will less bedrooms.[/p][/quote]with fewer bedrooms[/p][/quote]both are correct.[/p][/quote]Where you can count something, as with number of bedrooms, you use "fewer". Where you can't count it, for example flour or sugar, you use "less". Boris
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11:19pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Boris says...

As for the actual story, Mrs Harrison has only been registered disabled for a month, with Xmas and New Year in between, so she surely can't expect to be rehoused just yet.
Also, has she a history of always paying her rent on time? If not, she may have to wait longer, as the story explains.
The photo shows she is able to stand up, so let's hope she can manage while she waits for a property more suitable to her new condition.
As for the actual story, Mrs Harrison has only been registered disabled for a month, with Xmas and New Year in between, so she surely can't expect to be rehoused just yet. Also, has she a history of always paying her rent on time? If not, she may have to wait longer, as the story explains. The photo shows she is able to stand up, so let's hope she can manage while she waits for a property more suitable to her new condition. Boris
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11:34pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Dark_Wolf says...

She probably be better off signing up to homeswapper website & if she's interested I have a wheelchair accessible ground floor flat in Chelmsford up for a home swap.
She probably be better off signing up to homeswapper website & if she's interested I have a wheelchair accessible ground floor flat in Chelmsford up for a home swap. Dark_Wolf
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11:57pm Tue 8 Jan 13

PROOFREADER says...

Boris wrote:
PROOFREADER wrote:
Boris wrote:
PROOFREADER wrote:
PROOFREADER wrote:
If she wants an adapted bungalow the only way she will get one at her age is if she is on the council's transfer incentive scheme ie wanting to move to a property will less bedrooms. Bungalows adapted for the disabled only go to people forty and over if they are on the scheme . An adapted flat may be her only option if she really wants to move. She should contact the council about the possibility of having the property she is living in adapted.
with less bedrooms not will less bedrooms.
with fewer bedrooms
both are correct.
Where you can count something, as with number of bedrooms, you use "fewer". Where you can't count it, for example flour or sugar, you use "less".
Perhaps you would like to point that out to other people who use less and not fewer such as councils and estate agents who say a porperty is less than two miles from a shop and not fewer than two miles. Miles can be counted. Sugar and flour can be counted in weight so is it this sugar weighs less than two pounds or fewer than two pounds.
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PROOFREADER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PROOFREADER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PROOFREADER[/bold] wrote: If she wants an adapted bungalow the only way she will get one at her age is if she is on the council's transfer incentive scheme ie wanting to move to a property will less bedrooms. Bungalows adapted for the disabled only go to people forty and over if they are on the scheme . An adapted flat may be her only option if she really wants to move. She should contact the council about the possibility of having the property she is living in adapted.[/p][/quote]with less bedrooms not will less bedrooms.[/p][/quote]with fewer bedrooms[/p][/quote]both are correct.[/p][/quote]Where you can count something, as with number of bedrooms, you use "fewer". Where you can't count it, for example flour or sugar, you use "less".[/p][/quote]Perhaps you would like to point that out to other people who use less and not fewer such as councils and estate agents who say a porperty is less than two miles from a shop and not fewer than two miles. Miles can be counted. Sugar and flour can be counted in weight so is it this sugar weighs less than two pounds or fewer than two pounds. PROOFREADER
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6:56am Wed 9 Jan 13

Dillinga says...

PROOFREADER wrote:
Boris wrote:
PROOFREADER wrote:
Boris wrote:
PROOFREADER wrote:
PROOFREADER wrote:
If she wants an adapted bungalow the only way she will get one at her age is if she is on the council's transfer incentive scheme ie wanting to move to a property will less bedrooms. Bungalows adapted for the disabled only go to people forty and over if they are on the scheme . An adapted flat may be her only option if she really wants to move. She should contact the council about the possibility of having the property she is living in adapted.
with less bedrooms not will less bedrooms.
with fewer bedrooms
both are correct.
Where you can count something, as with number of bedrooms, you use "fewer". Where you can't count it, for example flour or sugar, you use "less".
Perhaps you would like to point that out to other people who use less and not fewer such as councils and estate agents who say a porperty is less than two miles from a shop and not fewer than two miles. Miles can be counted. Sugar and flour can be counted in weight so is it this sugar weighs less than two pounds or fewer than two pounds.
You really don't get it do you? I'd have thought someone with your user name and constant pedantic posts regarding accuracy on this site wouldn't make such mistakes and would also be able to submit just once just once rather than duplicating 90% of what you post.
[quote][p][bold]PROOFREADER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PROOFREADER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PROOFREADER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PROOFREADER[/bold] wrote: If she wants an adapted bungalow the only way she will get one at her age is if she is on the council's transfer incentive scheme ie wanting to move to a property will less bedrooms. Bungalows adapted for the disabled only go to people forty and over if they are on the scheme . An adapted flat may be her only option if she really wants to move. She should contact the council about the possibility of having the property she is living in adapted.[/p][/quote]with less bedrooms not will less bedrooms.[/p][/quote]with fewer bedrooms[/p][/quote]both are correct.[/p][/quote]Where you can count something, as with number of bedrooms, you use "fewer". Where you can't count it, for example flour or sugar, you use "less".[/p][/quote]Perhaps you would like to point that out to other people who use less and not fewer such as councils and estate agents who say a porperty is less than two miles from a shop and not fewer than two miles. Miles can be counted. Sugar and flour can be counted in weight so is it this sugar weighs less than two pounds or fewer than two pounds.[/p][/quote]You really don't get it do you? I'd have thought someone with your user name and constant pedantic posts regarding accuracy on this site wouldn't make such mistakes and would also be able to submit just once just once rather than duplicating 90% of what you post. Dillinga
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9:00am Wed 9 Jan 13

HARRY438 says...

Why can't that be done here, I'm sure her family could help.”

Correct me if I'm wrong ,but shouldn't there be a question mark in there somewhere?
Jus' sayin' ,thas all.
Why can't that be done here, I'm sure her family could help.” Correct me if I'm wrong ,but shouldn't there be a question mark in there somewhere? Jus' sayin' ,thas all. HARRY438
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11:15am Wed 9 Jan 13

PeachesnMilo37 says...

The council refuse to adapt our bungalow because it would cost too much. They were fully aware of our disability it's just unfortunate that our need to use a wheelchair happened sooner than we thought. We have never had rent arrears. The council are fully aware of the agony and difficulty we are having by not being able to use our chair in our own home. They just don't care. If we was an immigrant or foreign we would be treated much differently. It's disgusting how they treat British people. There are many British people in need but we are low priority compared to those that are immigrants or foreign.
The council refuse to adapt our bungalow because it would cost too much. They were fully aware of our disability it's just unfortunate that our need to use a wheelchair happened sooner than we thought. We have never had rent arrears. The council are fully aware of the agony and difficulty we are having by not being able to use our chair in our own home. They just don't care. If we was an immigrant or foreign we would be treated much differently. It's disgusting how they treat British people. There are many British people in need but we are low priority compared to those that are immigrants or foreign. PeachesnMilo37
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11:41am Wed 9 Jan 13

PeachesnMilo37 says...

We may have only been registered disabled in December but our need to use the wheelchair in our own home became necessary back some 8 months ago. It was unfortunate that our health became worse sooner than was expected. We can stand yes but the pain is beyond description despite the multitude of prescribed medication. The council are fully aware of how our home is affecting our health they just don't give a dawn. Sir Bob Russell himself has tried to help but he too has met with contradiction and lies! Hence why we have been left with no choice but to share our experience with the press. The council need to get their priorities right. Stop putting immigrants and foreigners above British people. Many are overlooked and pushed aside whilst those new to our country receive priority. You see it in the news all the time how immigrants get luxury homes, every benefit under the sun and better choices than that of us British people. Its unjust and unfair.
We may have only been registered disabled in December but our need to use the wheelchair in our own home became necessary back some 8 months ago. It was unfortunate that our health became worse sooner than was expected. We can stand yes but the pain is beyond description despite the multitude of prescribed medication. The council are fully aware of how our home is affecting our health they just don't give a dawn. Sir Bob Russell himself has tried to help but he too has met with contradiction and lies! Hence why we have been left with no choice but to share our experience with the press. The council need to get their priorities right. Stop putting immigrants and foreigners above British people. Many are overlooked and pushed aside whilst those new to our country receive priority. You see it in the news all the time how immigrants get luxury homes, every benefit under the sun and better choices than that of us British people. Its unjust and unfair. PeachesnMilo37
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11:42am Wed 9 Jan 13

kris H says...

Not only have the council said that, it is too expensive to make the one bedroom bungalow, wheelchair accessible. They have also been darn lazy and have left this place to rot.
Being an end bungalow, the walls are open to all weather and the mould is very bad. So bad that the walls in bathroom and kitchen are black.
Sure council have been bothered to come out and paint over the mould. But it is so bad, that nobody would want to do an exchange.

For the record, and to put things strait for some of the comments on here.
Mrs Harrison has yes, only been put on high disability last month. but she has been in need of a wheelchair now for half a year. She is in severe pain 24/7. She might be able to do some normal activity (in pain) one day. But she pays for it the next days, when she is unable to get of the bed.

It is a shame really that pain can't be seen. Because people can't see it, and are quick to jump on the wagon.
The picture shows her standing at the front door. But can we see the pain that she has got. Do you see the medication that she has to take? NO
Not only have the council said that, it is too expensive to make the one bedroom bungalow, wheelchair accessible. They have also been darn lazy and have left this place to rot. Being an end bungalow, the walls are open to all weather and the mould is very bad. So bad that the walls in bathroom and kitchen are black. Sure council have been bothered to come out and paint over the mould. But it is so bad, that nobody would want to do an exchange. For the record, and to put things strait for some of the comments on here. Mrs Harrison has yes, only been put on high disability last month. but she has been in need of a wheelchair now for half a year. She is in severe pain 24/7. She might be able to do some normal activity (in pain) one day. But she pays for it the next days, when she is unable to get of the bed. It is a shame really that pain can't be seen. Because people can't see it, and are quick to jump on the wagon. The picture shows her standing at the front door. But can we see the pain that she has got. Do you see the medication that she has to take? NO kris H
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12:21pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Boris says...

PeachesnMilo37 wrote:
We may have only been registered disabled in December but our need to use the wheelchair in our own home became necessary back some 8 months ago. It was unfortunate that our health became worse sooner than was expected. We can stand yes but the pain is beyond description despite the multitude of prescribed medication. The council are fully aware of how our home is affecting our health they just don't give a dawn. Sir Bob Russell himself has tried to help but he too has met with contradiction and lies! Hence why we have been left with no choice but to share our experience with the press. The council need to get their priorities right. Stop putting immigrants and foreigners above British people. Many are overlooked and pushed aside whilst those new to our country receive priority. You see it in the news all the time how immigrants get luxury homes, every benefit under the sun and better choices than that of us British people. Its unjust and unfair.
Now you have explained a bit more, we can understand a bit more about your plight. (It may have been clearer in the printed paper but I didn't see it yesterday.)
Unfortunately you have ruined it all with your rant against immigrants allegedly getting benefits such as luxury homes. Where do you get this rubbish from? Do you really believe everything you read in the gutter press? Do you really think that just because of one extreme case which may be reported, that kind of thing is going on all over the place?
How many immigrants do you know who are living on benefits in your street? None? I thought not. Stop blaming imaginary enemies, and instead blame the successive Tory and Labour governments since 1979 which have ordered councils to sell off council houses and not build new ones. That is the reason there is a massive housing shortage and that is the reason you may have to wait quite a while to be re-housed, unless you accept that offer of a swap to a wheelchair-accessibl
e bungalow in Chelmsford. Don't fall for the lies put out by rags such as the Express, Sun, and Daily Hate Mail.
[quote][p][bold]PeachesnMilo37[/bold] wrote: We may have only been registered disabled in December but our need to use the wheelchair in our own home became necessary back some 8 months ago. It was unfortunate that our health became worse sooner than was expected. We can stand yes but the pain is beyond description despite the multitude of prescribed medication. The council are fully aware of how our home is affecting our health they just don't give a dawn. Sir Bob Russell himself has tried to help but he too has met with contradiction and lies! Hence why we have been left with no choice but to share our experience with the press. The council need to get their priorities right. Stop putting immigrants and foreigners above British people. Many are overlooked and pushed aside whilst those new to our country receive priority. You see it in the news all the time how immigrants get luxury homes, every benefit under the sun and better choices than that of us British people. Its unjust and unfair.[/p][/quote]Now you have explained a bit more, we can understand a bit more about your plight. (It may have been clearer in the printed paper but I didn't see it yesterday.) Unfortunately you have ruined it all with your rant against immigrants allegedly getting benefits such as luxury homes. Where do you get this rubbish from? Do you really believe everything you read in the gutter press? Do you really think that just because of one extreme case which may be reported, that kind of thing is going on all over the place? How many immigrants do you know who are living on benefits in your street? None? I thought not. Stop blaming imaginary enemies, and instead blame the successive Tory and Labour governments since 1979 which have ordered councils to sell off council houses and not build new ones. That is the reason there is a massive housing shortage and that is the reason you may have to wait quite a while to be re-housed, unless you accept that offer of a swap to a wheelchair-accessibl e bungalow in Chelmsford. Don't fall for the lies put out by rags such as the Express, Sun, and Daily Hate Mail. Boris
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12:35pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Boris says...

Dillinga wrote:
PROOFREADER wrote:
Boris wrote:
PROOFREADER wrote:
Boris wrote:
PROOFREADER wrote:
PROOFREADER wrote:
If she wants an adapted bungalow the only way she will get one at her age is if she is on the council's transfer incentive scheme ie wanting to move to a property will less bedrooms. Bungalows adapted for the disabled only go to people forty and over if they are on the scheme . An adapted flat may be her only option if she really wants to move. She should contact the council about the possibility of having the property she is living in adapted.
with less bedrooms not will less bedrooms.
with fewer bedrooms
both are correct.
Where you can count something, as with number of bedrooms, you use "fewer". Where you can't count it, for example flour or sugar, you use "less".
Perhaps you would like to point that out to other people who use less and not fewer such as councils and estate agents who say a porperty is less than two miles from a shop and not fewer than two miles. Miles can be counted. Sugar and flour can be counted in weight so is it this sugar weighs less than two pounds or fewer than two pounds.
You really don't get it do you? I'd have thought someone with your user name and constant pedantic posts regarding accuracy on this site wouldn't make such mistakes and would also be able to submit just once just once rather than duplicating 90% of what you post.
Dillinga, thanks for your support. Mostly I don't bother arguing with people who make innocent mistakes such as "porperty" for "property", because it can happen to any of us. But if people use poor English while presuming to correct others, that gets up my nose.
Proofreader, I am not going to argue with every single user of bad English, because there are far too many of them. I just thought that as one who likes to be correct, you would appreciate a correction. As for sugar and flour, you do not count them in weight, you weigh them. If you wanted to count them, you would have to count each single grain, which would be absurd.
[quote][p][bold]Dillinga[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PROOFREADER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PROOFREADER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PROOFREADER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PROOFREADER[/bold] wrote: If she wants an adapted bungalow the only way she will get one at her age is if she is on the council's transfer incentive scheme ie wanting to move to a property will less bedrooms. Bungalows adapted for the disabled only go to people forty and over if they are on the scheme . An adapted flat may be her only option if she really wants to move. She should contact the council about the possibility of having the property she is living in adapted.[/p][/quote]with less bedrooms not will less bedrooms.[/p][/quote]with fewer bedrooms[/p][/quote]both are correct.[/p][/quote]Where you can count something, as with number of bedrooms, you use "fewer". Where you can't count it, for example flour or sugar, you use "less".[/p][/quote]Perhaps you would like to point that out to other people who use less and not fewer such as councils and estate agents who say a porperty is less than two miles from a shop and not fewer than two miles. Miles can be counted. Sugar and flour can be counted in weight so is it this sugar weighs less than two pounds or fewer than two pounds.[/p][/quote]You really don't get it do you? I'd have thought someone with your user name and constant pedantic posts regarding accuracy on this site wouldn't make such mistakes and would also be able to submit just once just once rather than duplicating 90% of what you post.[/p][/quote]Dillinga, thanks for your support. Mostly I don't bother arguing with people who make innocent mistakes such as "porperty" for "property", because it can happen to any of us. But if people use poor English while presuming to correct others, that gets up my nose. Proofreader, I am not going to argue with every single user of bad English, because there are far too many of them. I just thought that as one who likes to be correct, you would appreciate a correction. As for sugar and flour, you do not count them in weight, you weigh them. If you wanted to count them, you would have to count each single grain, which would be absurd. Boris
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1:47pm Wed 9 Jan 13

PeachesnMilo37 says...

As for the comment where do we get the information from that immigrants are prioritized above British people open your eyes and ears!! Its been well publicized on the national and international news so they are liars are they! And we have a few down our street living quite comfortably too! So don't ask me a question and answer it for me! Its been proven many times that immigrants and foreigners get priority over us Brits FACT. They are given whatever benefits they claim for FACT.Its not heresy or lies its been well documented by reliable sources not the local rag. We have been told straight from the horses mouth, the council that if a British person goes up against an immigrant or foreigner we get thrown to the wayside and they take priority. I'm sure there are many people out there that have experienced this themselves. Don't we as British citizens have a right to be treated fairly then why isn't this the case. We have and still are fighting to be treated justly and fairly without discrimination a battle that we seem to be losing. We are not racist in any shape or form we just ask that the councils look after there own first not those that have just moved to our country and have put nothing into its economy. Our husband has suffered first hand at being pushed aside for work due to the fact he is British and not prepared to break the law or work for a pittance unlike these foreign workers. We are trying to make a stand for what we believe is our right!
As for the comment where do we get the information from that immigrants are prioritized above British people open your eyes and ears!! Its been well publicized on the national and international news so they are liars are they! And we have a few down our street living quite comfortably too! So don't ask me a question and answer it for me! Its been proven many times that immigrants and foreigners get priority over us Brits FACT. They are given whatever benefits they claim for FACT.Its not heresy or lies its been well documented by reliable sources not the local rag. We have been told straight from the horses mouth, the council that if a British person goes up against an immigrant or foreigner we get thrown to the wayside and they take priority. I'm sure there are many people out there that have experienced this themselves. Don't we as British citizens have a right to be treated fairly then why isn't this the case. We have and still are fighting to be treated justly and fairly without discrimination a battle that we seem to be losing. We are not racist in any shape or form we just ask that the councils look after there own first not those that have just moved to our country and have put nothing into its economy. Our husband has suffered first hand at being pushed aside for work due to the fact he is British and not prepared to break the law or work for a pittance unlike these foreign workers. We are trying to make a stand for what we believe is our right! PeachesnMilo37
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1:49pm Wed 9 Jan 13

kris H says...

Boris. With a name like yours, you must be one too. Over here on the take just like the rest of them.
If you were to turn on that box that stands in the corner of your room. They call it a TV. You will see that it is not us that is having a rant about foreigners. It is us stating the fact.
Why should foreigners come over here and get it all, when we have to go on with less and less?
So not only are you calling us liers. You are calling the BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and all the rest that bring the news, liers too.
Boris, you need to get your eyes opened and see that it is not us being racist. But us further stating a fact.

You look at how many are coming to this country and getting all the help. They get so much money to open up a business, or to buy what ever. Yet if we go and ask. We get told there is no money left.

Look how much they send down to Africa to feed the poor little children that are starving. Yet you don't see poor starving adults. They are doing fine and they have all the energy there to have sex and make more of them little blighter's.

So next time you want to slam people into the ground for stating a TRUE fact. You had better be sure to have your eyes wide open first..
Rags don't just print what your calling fables. Every paper, every tv channel put out the same. Only difference is. They can't actually say what we really think. That enough is enough. That we should take back our country and put the Great back into the name.
Next we will be having to cover up our women because it is offensive to the muslim gits that have come over here and taken over.
Boris. With a name like yours, you must be one too. Over here on the take just like the rest of them. If you were to turn on that box that stands in the corner of your room. They call it a TV. You will see that it is not us that is having a rant about foreigners. It is us stating the fact. Why should foreigners come over here and get it all, when we have to go on with less and less? So not only are you calling us liers. You are calling the BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and all the rest that bring the news, liers too. Boris, you need to get your eyes opened and see that it is not us being racist. But us further stating a fact. You look at how many are coming to this country and getting all the help. They get so much money to open up a business, or to buy what ever. Yet if we go and ask. We get told there is no money left. Look how much they send down to Africa to feed the poor little children that are starving. Yet you don't see poor starving adults. They are doing fine and they have all the energy there to have sex and make more of them little blighter's. So next time you want to slam people into the ground for stating a TRUE fact. You had better be sure to have your eyes wide open first.. Rags don't just print what your calling fables. Every paper, every tv channel put out the same. Only difference is. They can't actually say what we really think. That enough is enough. That we should take back our country and put the Great back into the name. Next we will be having to cover up our women because it is offensive to the muslim gits that have come over here and taken over. kris H
  • Score: -1

1:51pm Wed 9 Jan 13

TheCaptain says...

Totally agree Boris, the post above is racist trying to blame immigrants for the problems. Housing / Benefit law is the same for everyone and the fact is there is just not enough money / housing to help everyone. Which was the case as well before this government and the recession.
Totally agree Boris, the post above is racist trying to blame immigrants for the problems. Housing / Benefit law is the same for everyone and the fact is there is just not enough money / housing to help everyone. Which was the case as well before this government and the recession. TheCaptain
  • Score: 1

2:04pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Justice79 says...

kris H wrote:
Boris. With a name like yours, you must be one too. Over here on the take just like the rest of them.
If you were to turn on that box that stands in the corner of your room. They call it a TV. You will see that it is not us that is having a rant about foreigners. It is us stating the fact.
Why should foreigners come over here and get it all, when we have to go on with less and less?
So not only are you calling us liers. You are calling the BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and all the rest that bring the news, liers too.
Boris, you need to get your eyes opened and see that it is not us being racist. But us further stating a fact.

You look at how many are coming to this country and getting all the help. They get so much money to open up a business, or to buy what ever. Yet if we go and ask. We get told there is no money left.

Look how much they send down to Africa to feed the poor little children that are starving. Yet you don't see poor starving adults. They are doing fine and they have all the energy there to have sex and make more of them little blighter's.

So next time you want to slam people into the ground for stating a TRUE fact. You had better be sure to have your eyes wide open first..
Rags don't just print what your calling fables. Every paper, every tv channel put out the same. Only difference is. They can't actually say what we really think. That enough is enough. That we should take back our country and put the Great back into the name.
Next we will be having to cover up our women because it is offensive to the muslim gits that have come over here and taken over.
Looks like our favourite xenophobic racist scaremonger has reared his head again.

Let us not forget this man telling us to open our eyes is the very same person that called for all universities to be closed on the basis that when he went to the Tesco at the Hythe he couldn't get a trolley because according to him the had all been taken by students.

Also the same man that while at the same time as getting in a flap about the migrant workforce by his own admission used to work in and around Europe, perhaps you should open your mind before you start telling others to open their eyes. and take a moment to consider how childish and ludicrous and completely unfounded the blinkered racist and drivel that you are spouting really is, your comments about Africa are the exact type of uneducated tosh I'd expect to read in BNP literature.
[quote][p][bold]kris H[/bold] wrote: Boris. With a name like yours, you must be one too. Over here on the take just like the rest of them. If you were to turn on that box that stands in the corner of your room. They call it a TV. You will see that it is not us that is having a rant about foreigners. It is us stating the fact. Why should foreigners come over here and get it all, when we have to go on with less and less? So not only are you calling us liers. You are calling the BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and all the rest that bring the news, liers too. Boris, you need to get your eyes opened and see that it is not us being racist. But us further stating a fact. You look at how many are coming to this country and getting all the help. They get so much money to open up a business, or to buy what ever. Yet if we go and ask. We get told there is no money left. Look how much they send down to Africa to feed the poor little children that are starving. Yet you don't see poor starving adults. They are doing fine and they have all the energy there to have sex and make more of them little blighter's. So next time you want to slam people into the ground for stating a TRUE fact. You had better be sure to have your eyes wide open first.. Rags don't just print what your calling fables. Every paper, every tv channel put out the same. Only difference is. They can't actually say what we really think. That enough is enough. That we should take back our country and put the Great back into the name. Next we will be having to cover up our women because it is offensive to the muslim gits that have come over here and taken over.[/p][/quote]Looks like our favourite xenophobic racist scaremonger has reared his head again. Let us not forget this man telling us to open our eyes is the very same person that called for all universities to be closed on the basis that when he went to the Tesco at the Hythe he couldn't get a trolley because according to him the had all been taken by students. Also the same man that while at the same time as getting in a flap about the migrant workforce by his own admission used to work in and around Europe, perhaps you should open your mind before you start telling others to open their eyes. and take a moment to consider how childish and ludicrous and completely unfounded the blinkered racist and drivel that you are spouting really is, your comments about Africa are the exact type of uneducated tosh I'd expect to read in BNP literature. Justice79
  • Score: 1

2:09pm Wed 9 Jan 13

HARRY438 says...

Blair-bliar-liar & his mates caused all the probs with cheap, plentiful labour. Short term fix - long term problem.
Can't blame the immigrants.
Blair-bliar-liar & his mates caused all the probs with cheap, plentiful labour. Short term fix - long term problem. Can't blame the immigrants. HARRY438
  • Score: -1

2:14pm Wed 9 Jan 13

kris H says...

kris H wrote:
Boris. With a name like yours, you must be one too. Over here on the take just like the rest of them.
If you were to turn on that box that stands in the corner of your room. They call it a TV. You will see that it is not us that is having a rant about foreigners. It is us stating the fact.
Why should foreigners come over here and get it all, when we have to go on with less and less?
So not only are you calling us liers. You are calling the BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and all the rest that bring the news, liers too.
Boris, you need to get your eyes opened and see that it is not us being racist. But us further stating a fact.

You look at how many are coming to this country and getting all the help. They get so much money to open up a business, or to buy what ever. Yet if we go and ask. We get told there is no money left.

Look how much they send down to Africa to feed the poor little children that are starving. Yet you don't see poor starving adults. They are doing fine and they have all the energy there to have sex and make more of them little blighter's.

So next time you want to slam people into the ground for stating a TRUE fact. You had better be sure to have your eyes wide open first..
Rags don't just print what your calling fables. Every paper, every tv channel put out the same. Only difference is. They can't actually say what we really think. That enough is enough. That we should take back our country and put the Great back into the name.
Next we will be having to cover up our women because it is offensive to the muslim gits that have come over here and taken over.
Ok then. If you lot think that we are being racist. Why not go and look then in town.
Look at how many stores have closed and have now reopened by foreigners. Most of which can't even master English all that well.
Do you really think that this lot are British. Or that they thought. We have lots of money, Why don't we go over to the UK and open a store there for the fun of it?
No. Most of these people have come over here with their hands out, wanting them to be filled with lots of money. Stupid governments give it to them over here. They then get start up capitol from the government and anything else they want. Because it is a known fact, they will shout RACISM.

I will not break the HOS laws, but foreign drivers do it all the time and get away with it. Yet it is this government and Labour before, but then it was the Maggie government that started this crap by letting in Brussels.
[quote][p][bold]kris H[/bold] wrote: Boris. With a name like yours, you must be one too. Over here on the take just like the rest of them. If you were to turn on that box that stands in the corner of your room. They call it a TV. You will see that it is not us that is having a rant about foreigners. It is us stating the fact. Why should foreigners come over here and get it all, when we have to go on with less and less? So not only are you calling us liers. You are calling the BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and all the rest that bring the news, liers too. Boris, you need to get your eyes opened and see that it is not us being racist. But us further stating a fact. You look at how many are coming to this country and getting all the help. They get so much money to open up a business, or to buy what ever. Yet if we go and ask. We get told there is no money left. Look how much they send down to Africa to feed the poor little children that are starving. Yet you don't see poor starving adults. They are doing fine and they have all the energy there to have sex and make more of them little blighter's. So next time you want to slam people into the ground for stating a TRUE fact. You had better be sure to have your eyes wide open first.. Rags don't just print what your calling fables. Every paper, every tv channel put out the same. Only difference is. They can't actually say what we really think. That enough is enough. That we should take back our country and put the Great back into the name. Next we will be having to cover up our women because it is offensive to the muslim gits that have come over here and taken over.[/p][/quote]Ok then. If you lot think that we are being racist. Why not go and look then in town. Look at how many stores have closed and have now reopened by foreigners. Most of which can't even master English all that well. Do you really think that this lot are British. Or that they thought. We have lots of money, Why don't we go over to the UK and open a store there for the fun of it? No. Most of these people have come over here with their hands out, wanting them to be filled with lots of money. Stupid governments give it to them over here. They then get start up capitol from the government and anything else they want. Because it is a known fact, they will shout RACISM. I will not break the HOS laws, but foreign drivers do it all the time and get away with it. Yet it is this government and Labour before, but then it was the Maggie government that started this crap by letting in Brussels. kris H
  • Score: 0

2:21pm Wed 9 Jan 13

HARRY438 says...

PS. You are supposed to email me when a comment is added?

& give that lady a home with disabled access that she obviously needs.
All this discussion about sperling & grammer is playing into council hands, they applaud the distractions.
They are probably the ones that are making all the fuss on here about trivia.
PS. You are supposed to email me when a comment is added? & give that lady a home with disabled access that she obviously needs. All this discussion about sperling & grammer is playing into council hands, they applaud the distractions. They are probably the ones that are making all the fuss on here about trivia. HARRY438
  • Score: -1

2:26pm Wed 9 Jan 13

kris H says...

Justice79.
Yes I am the same. The one and only. But don't you think that your being daft now.
You just stated... Quote
Also the same man that while at the same time as getting in a flap about the migrant workforce by his own admission used to work in and around Europe.

There is one huge difference between me going to Europe to work, and them coming here.
I had to learn to speak the language fully before I got a work permit, and did not get benefits over there. I had to use my own funds at the start. Never took a dime from that country.

So what your saying is. It is fine for the foreigners to come over here and bleed this country for what's it worth. But not OK for us to go over to their country and live and work.

How stupid can one get.

Oh and by the way. Go down to Tesco Hythe and talk with the manager, and you will hear from them, that it was a fact. That the UNI have most of the shopping carts there and would not give them back unless Tesco paid for them first. Even now, you can still see those stupid students, mostly foreign walking over the bridge with a cart, and the number of carts still left at the store is down.
Justice79. Yes I am the same. The one and only. But don't you think that your being daft now. You just stated... Quote Also the same man that while at the same time as getting in a flap about the migrant workforce by his own admission used to work in and around Europe. There is one huge difference between me going to Europe to work, and them coming here. I had to learn to speak the language fully before I got a work permit, and did not get benefits over there. I had to use my own funds at the start. Never took a dime from that country. So what your saying is. It is fine for the foreigners to come over here and bleed this country for what's it worth. But not OK for us to go over to their country and live and work. How stupid can one get. Oh and by the way. Go down to Tesco Hythe and talk with the manager, and you will hear from them, that it was a fact. That the UNI have most of the shopping carts there and would not give them back unless Tesco paid for them first. Even now, you can still see those stupid students, mostly foreign walking over the bridge with a cart, and the number of carts still left at the store is down. kris H
  • Score: -1

2:47pm Wed 9 Jan 13

HARRY438 says...

I thought that tescos fitted sat-trak on one of the wheels on all their trolleys & if they crossed the perimeter the brake would go on ?
I would go along with some of the things you say but students are no problem down the Hythe,in fact I feel sorry for them having to live in such a miserable climate & having to use such an expensive store.
If Morrisons opened in Colch. Theftos would catch a big cold.
I thought that tescos fitted sat-trak on one of the wheels on all their trolleys & if they crossed the perimeter the brake would go on ? I would go along with some of the things you say but students are no problem down the Hythe,in fact I feel sorry for them having to live in such a miserable climate & having to use such an expensive store. If Morrisons opened in Colch. Theftos would catch a big cold. HARRY438
  • Score: 0

3:07pm Wed 9 Jan 13

HARRY438 says...

Kris H;
I think this might interest you, regarding students & technology?

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/education-2093
0195
Kris H; I think this might interest you, regarding students & technology? http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/education-2093 0195 HARRY438
  • Score: 0

4:40pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Say It As It Is OK? says...

How has a thread about a wheelchair accessible council house turned into what can only be described as one of the worst cases of race hate? It does absolutely nothing to help and those blaming their predicament onto immigrants need to take a close look at themselves before blaming others, irrespective of their colour or nationality.

And my comments come from someone who has, in the past, been accused of racism just for speaking out against certain injustices.
How has a thread about a wheelchair accessible council house turned into what can only be described as one of the worst cases of race hate? It does absolutely nothing to help and those blaming their predicament onto immigrants need to take a close look at themselves before blaming others, irrespective of their colour or nationality. And my comments come from someone who has, in the past, been accused of racism just for speaking out against certain injustices. Say It As It Is OK?
  • Score: 0

5:06pm Wed 9 Jan 13

HARRY438 says...

Reading between the lines it looks like Kris H has had a raw deal from UK immigration policies . I am guessing he is a trucker & has seen his standard of living drop due to cheap imported labour.Its hard to work all your life & see your job devalued overnight.Control your anger & vote UKIP or something like that? If we could get 3 times the wages,top class equipment & all the medical,etc; back-up in a foreign place I guess we would take advantage too.
Reading between the lines it looks like Kris H has had a raw deal from UK immigration policies . I am guessing he is a trucker & has seen his standard of living drop due to cheap imported labour.Its hard to work all your life & see your job devalued overnight.Control your anger & vote UKIP or something like that? If we could get 3 times the wages,top class equipment & all the medical,etc; back-up in a foreign place I guess we would take advantage too. HARRY438
  • Score: 0

6:20pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Captain SpaceAce says...

I think, reading between the lines, it sounds like Kris H is a sad, poorly educated chap who doesn't understand the country he lives in. I'd like to see proof that this council has put foreigners or immigrants before British people in priority for housing or benefits.

It is hard to feel sympathy for the housing situation for someone who is quite openly racist without even understanding that they are doing so. I do however have sympathy for their poor understanding of the world.
I think, reading between the lines, it sounds like Kris H is a sad, poorly educated chap who doesn't understand the country he lives in. I'd like to see proof that this council has put foreigners or immigrants before British people in priority for housing or benefits. It is hard to feel sympathy for the housing situation for someone who is quite openly racist without even understanding that they are doing so. I do however have sympathy for their poor understanding of the world. Captain SpaceAce
  • Score: 0

7:03pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Dillinga says...

kris H wrote:
Justice79.
Yes I am the same. The one and only. But don't you think that your being daft now.
You just stated... Quote
Also the same man that while at the same time as getting in a flap about the migrant workforce by his own admission used to work in and around Europe.

There is one huge difference between me going to Europe to work, and them coming here.
I had to learn to speak the language fully before I got a work permit, and did not get benefits over there. I had to use my own funds at the start. Never took a dime from that country.

So what your saying is. It is fine for the foreigners to come over here and bleed this country for what's it worth. But not OK for us to go over to their country and live and work.

How stupid can one get.

Oh and by the way. Go down to Tesco Hythe and talk with the manager, and you will hear from them, that it was a fact. That the UNI have most of the shopping carts there and would not give them back unless Tesco paid for them first. Even now, you can still see those stupid students, mostly foreign walking over the bridge with a cart, and the number of carts still left at the store is down.
Sadly you're not the one and only there are seemingly thousands of ignorant small minded fools just like you that would rather lay their problems at the feet in immigrants than actually take some kind of responsibility themselves oh no it's far easier to sit on your backside and moan isn't it.

You are very quick to heap together all migrant workers as lazy money grabbing scroungers bleeding the system dry but you'd also take offence if someone were to suggest to you that your attitude of "I'm British I'm owed a roof over my head modified to meet my requirements" is just as bad you're owed nothing at all.

There are Jewson and Travis Perkins in walking distance of your home Jewson are more than happy to let people take off cuts etc from their saw room you could easily put together a basic ramp and a hand rail or two for minimal cost but I guess that would be just too much effort on your part, best to just sit there with your hand out isn't it?
[quote][p][bold]kris H[/bold] wrote: Justice79. Yes I am the same. The one and only. But don't you think that your being daft now. You just stated... Quote Also the same man that while at the same time as getting in a flap about the migrant workforce by his own admission used to work in and around Europe. There is one huge difference between me going to Europe to work, and them coming here. I had to learn to speak the language fully before I got a work permit, and did not get benefits over there. I had to use my own funds at the start. Never took a dime from that country. So what your saying is. It is fine for the foreigners to come over here and bleed this country for what's it worth. But not OK for us to go over to their country and live and work. How stupid can one get. Oh and by the way. Go down to Tesco Hythe and talk with the manager, and you will hear from them, that it was a fact. That the UNI have most of the shopping carts there and would not give them back unless Tesco paid for them first. Even now, you can still see those stupid students, mostly foreign walking over the bridge with a cart, and the number of carts still left at the store is down.[/p][/quote]Sadly you're not the one and only there are seemingly thousands of ignorant small minded fools just like you that would rather lay their problems at the feet in immigrants than actually take some kind of responsibility themselves oh no it's far easier to sit on your backside and moan isn't it. You are very quick to heap together all migrant workers as lazy money grabbing scroungers bleeding the system dry but you'd also take offence if someone were to suggest to you that your attitude of "I'm British I'm owed a roof over my head modified to meet my requirements" is just as bad you're owed nothing at all. There are Jewson and Travis Perkins in walking distance of your home Jewson are more than happy to let people take off cuts etc from their saw room you could easily put together a basic ramp and a hand rail or two for minimal cost but I guess that would be just too much effort on your part, best to just sit there with your hand out isn't it? Dillinga
  • Score: 0

8:26pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Bigh321 says...

MOST RACIST POSTS EVER!

She moans that the immigrants get more than her but she gets more than me, I'm a tax paying British citizen in full time work struggling to support my family but I don't get a nice little council house at probably half the rent I'm paying.
I know she is sick but sometimes people need to take responsibility for their own lives why does the council have to get her a new house, she has had a life time of cheap rent, where is her savings to make changes to the house herself?
Wish I could blame the council, I would love to have more children but can't afford it, o wait a minute why don't I get a council house and demand a bigger house when I have more kids.
Councils fault not mine, council owes me.
O wait no it doesn't, get a grip.
MOST RACIST POSTS EVER! She moans that the immigrants get more than her but she gets more than me, I'm a tax paying British citizen in full time work struggling to support my family but I don't get a nice little council house at probably half the rent I'm paying. I know she is sick but sometimes people need to take responsibility for their own lives why does the council have to get her a new house, she has had a life time of cheap rent, where is her savings to make changes to the house herself? Wish I could blame the council, I would love to have more children but can't afford it, o wait a minute why don't I get a council house and demand a bigger house when I have more kids. Councils fault not mine, council owes me. O wait no it doesn't, get a grip. Bigh321
  • Score: 1

8:55pm Wed 9 Jan 13

kris H says...

Having left this for a while, to let you ignorant let have a go. Just because I did not go to uni don't make me thick.
Not going to uni makes it that I got more work experience than a stupid student.

All these names that you lot have called me, just for standing up to what is the truth of the matter. It is not rocket science to work out what is going on in this country.


Why is it then. If one is to stand there and say "We are the ones being discriminated against". Then why is it that they can't wait to get security to escort you out?
Because they are scared to admit that we are right. Even though we have had it from the horses mouth. That they have too put foreign migrants first. Because there would be problems from Brussels and the true fact that they cry racism if they don't get their way.
We just have to grin and bare it. Well not any more
Having left this for a while, to let you ignorant let have a go. Just because I did not go to uni don't make me thick. Not going to uni makes it that I got more work experience than a stupid student. All these names that you lot have called me, just for standing up to what is the truth of the matter. It is not rocket science to work out what is going on in this country. Why is it then. If one is to stand there and say "We are the ones being discriminated against". Then why is it that they can't wait to get security to escort you out? Because they are scared to admit that we are right. Even though we have had it from the horses mouth. That they have too put foreign migrants first. Because there would be problems from Brussels and the true fact that they cry racism if they don't get their way. We just have to grin and bare it. Well not any more kris H
  • Score: -1

9:05pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Grabber says...

I can't believe this thread is still running Gazette gets some moderators to monitor this page if your going to allow people to post comments.
I can't believe this thread is still running Gazette gets some moderators to monitor this page if your going to allow people to post comments. Grabber
  • Score: 0

10:09pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Dillinga says...

kris H wrote:
Having left this for a while, to let you ignorant let have a go. Just because I did not go to uni don't make me thick.
Not going to uni makes it that I got more work experience than a stupid student.

All these names that you lot have called me, just for standing up to what is the truth of the matter. It is not rocket science to work out what is going on in this country.


Why is it then. If one is to stand there and say "We are the ones being discriminated against". Then why is it that they can't wait to get security to escort you out?
Because they are scared to admit that we are right. Even though we have had it from the horses mouth. That they have too put foreign migrants first. Because there would be problems from Brussels and the true fact that they cry racism if they don't get their way.
We just have to grin and bare it. Well not any more
I didn't go to university either and it's not the fact that you didn't that makes you thick oh not that is covered by the absolute tosh you have posted here.

there is no truth at all in your claims that you can't have your house modified because the council are too busy giving it all to foreigners.

Like the previous poster I too work all the hours I can to pay for the roof over my head I'd love a nice little bungalow with a garden for a token monthly payment if that or to be able to spend more time with my children. How about concentrating in just how good you've got it before you start asking for more.
[quote][p][bold]kris H[/bold] wrote: Having left this for a while, to let you ignorant let have a go. Just because I did not go to uni don't make me thick. Not going to uni makes it that I got more work experience than a stupid student. All these names that you lot have called me, just for standing up to what is the truth of the matter. It is not rocket science to work out what is going on in this country. Why is it then. If one is to stand there and say "We are the ones being discriminated against". Then why is it that they can't wait to get security to escort you out? Because they are scared to admit that we are right. Even though we have had it from the horses mouth. That they have too put foreign migrants first. Because there would be problems from Brussels and the true fact that they cry racism if they don't get their way. We just have to grin and bare it. Well not any more[/p][/quote]I didn't go to university either and it's not the fact that you didn't that makes you thick oh not that is covered by the absolute tosh you have posted here. there is no truth at all in your claims that you can't have your house modified because the council are too busy giving it all to foreigners. Like the previous poster I too work all the hours I can to pay for the roof over my head I'd love a nice little bungalow with a garden for a token monthly payment if that or to be able to spend more time with my children. How about concentrating in just how good you've got it before you start asking for more. Dillinga
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10:27pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Feisty CBC says...

I've never heard such vitriolic rubbish. Because the complainant and her spouse didn't receive the banding they were expecting, they decided to cite "foreigners and immigrants".
I think the council have been more than fair with their banding. Personally I would have placed them in Band Z.
As for Boris. I've had the pleasure of meeting the man and he is a smashing bloke.
I've never heard such vitriolic rubbish. Because the complainant and her spouse didn't receive the banding they were expecting, they decided to cite "foreigners and immigrants". I think the council have been more than fair with their banding. Personally I would have placed them in Band Z. As for Boris. I've had the pleasure of meeting the man and he is a smashing bloke. Feisty CBC
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10:59pm Wed 9 Jan 13

romantic says...

kris H wrote:
Boris. With a name like yours, you must be one too. Over here on the take just like the rest of them.
If you were to turn on that box that stands in the corner of your room. They call it a TV. You will see that it is not us that is having a rant about foreigners. It is us stating the fact.
Why should foreigners come over here and get it all, when we have to go on with less and less?
So not only are you calling us liers. You are calling the BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and all the rest that bring the news, liers too.
Boris, you need to get your eyes opened and see that it is not us being racist. But us further stating a fact.

You look at how many are coming to this country and getting all the help. They get so much money to open up a business, or to buy what ever. Yet if we go and ask. We get told there is no money left.

Look how much they send down to Africa to feed the poor little children that are starving. Yet you don't see poor starving adults. They are doing fine and they have all the energy there to have sex and make more of them little blighter's.

So next time you want to slam people into the ground for stating a TRUE fact. You had better be sure to have your eyes wide open first..
Rags don't just print what your calling fables. Every paper, every tv channel put out the same. Only difference is. They can't actually say what we really think. That enough is enough. That we should take back our country and put the Great back into the name.
Next we will be having to cover up our women because it is offensive to the muslim gits that have come over here and taken over.
You know, you almost had some sympathy from me for a moment, but you´ve ruined it all with this total nonsense.

I´m British born and bred and going back many generations, and what you say makes me ashamed to live in the same country as you.

If your source of "facts" is the tabloids, you have no idea of reality. Who are these immigrants who are living the life of Riley on benefits? Do you actually know any? I know plenty of people from all around the world who live here, and every single one of them works. You rant about people claiming benefits, but then have a go at foreigners for opening up shops in town. Well, they´re not on benefits, are they? They´re risking their money and devoting their time to setting up businesses. If you´re so unhappy about it, why don´t you do the same?
[quote][p][bold]kris H[/bold] wrote: Boris. With a name like yours, you must be one too. Over here on the take just like the rest of them. If you were to turn on that box that stands in the corner of your room. They call it a TV. You will see that it is not us that is having a rant about foreigners. It is us stating the fact. Why should foreigners come over here and get it all, when we have to go on with less and less? So not only are you calling us liers. You are calling the BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and all the rest that bring the news, liers too. Boris, you need to get your eyes opened and see that it is not us being racist. But us further stating a fact. You look at how many are coming to this country and getting all the help. They get so much money to open up a business, or to buy what ever. Yet if we go and ask. We get told there is no money left. Look how much they send down to Africa to feed the poor little children that are starving. Yet you don't see poor starving adults. They are doing fine and they have all the energy there to have sex and make more of them little blighter's. So next time you want to slam people into the ground for stating a TRUE fact. You had better be sure to have your eyes wide open first.. Rags don't just print what your calling fables. Every paper, every tv channel put out the same. Only difference is. They can't actually say what we really think. That enough is enough. That we should take back our country and put the Great back into the name. Next we will be having to cover up our women because it is offensive to the muslim gits that have come over here and taken over.[/p][/quote]You know, you almost had some sympathy from me for a moment, but you´ve ruined it all with this total nonsense. I´m British born and bred and going back many generations, and what you say makes me ashamed to live in the same country as you. If your source of "facts" is the tabloids, you have no idea of reality. Who are these immigrants who are living the life of Riley on benefits? Do you actually know any? I know plenty of people from all around the world who live here, and every single one of them works. You rant about people claiming benefits, but then have a go at foreigners for opening up shops in town. Well, they´re not on benefits, are they? They´re risking their money and devoting their time to setting up businesses. If you´re so unhappy about it, why don´t you do the same? romantic
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2:44am Thu 10 Jan 13

Boris says...

Feisty CBC wrote:
I've never heard such vitriolic rubbish. Because the complainant and her spouse didn't receive the banding they were expecting, they decided to cite "foreigners and immigrants".
I think the council have been more than fair with their banding. Personally I would have placed them in Band Z.
As for Boris. I've had the pleasure of meeting the man and he is a smashing bloke.
Thanks Feisty, it's nice to have some support from you and several others.
I can't be bothered arguing with kris, except to state that my mum was born in Wivenhoe, my dad was born in Clacton, and I was born in Colchester borough. I am as Anglo-Saxon as they come. So, kris, put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Kris and Mrs Harrison may have been dealt a rough deal in life, but that does not entitle them to write all this racist drivel that they produce. Why don't they stand as candidates for the BNP at the next election, and see how many votes they get?
They make statements of what they call "FACT" but of course they cannot give any actual examples of their allegations, which are not facts at all. Sad people, totally unrepresentative. I know I ought to feel sorry for them but I can't feel sorry for a pair of racists.
[quote][p][bold]Feisty CBC[/bold] wrote: I've never heard such vitriolic rubbish. Because the complainant and her spouse didn't receive the banding they were expecting, they decided to cite "foreigners and immigrants". I think the council have been more than fair with their banding. Personally I would have placed them in Band Z. As for Boris. I've had the pleasure of meeting the man and he is a smashing bloke.[/p][/quote]Thanks Feisty, it's nice to have some support from you and several others. I can't be bothered arguing with kris, except to state that my mum was born in Wivenhoe, my dad was born in Clacton, and I was born in Colchester borough. I am as Anglo-Saxon as they come. So, kris, put that in your pipe and smoke it. Kris and Mrs Harrison may have been dealt a rough deal in life, but that does not entitle them to write all this racist drivel that they produce. Why don't they stand as candidates for the BNP at the next election, and see how many votes they get? They make statements of what they call "FACT" but of course they cannot give any actual examples of their allegations, which are not facts at all. Sad people, totally unrepresentative. I know I ought to feel sorry for them but I can't feel sorry for a pair of racists. Boris
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2:50am Thu 10 Jan 13

Boris says...

Grabber wrote:
I can't believe this thread is still running Gazette gets some moderators to monitor this page if your going to allow people to post comments.
It's true we haven't had a ding-dong like this for a while, but a year or two ago there were several arguments like this. It's probably better to let it all hang out rather than suppress it. Anyway, it gives the rest of us a chance to tell the racists they are on their own.
[quote][p][bold]Grabber[/bold] wrote: I can't believe this thread is still running Gazette gets some moderators to monitor this page if your going to allow people to post comments.[/p][/quote]It's true we haven't had a ding-dong like this for a while, but a year or two ago there were several arguments like this. It's probably better to let it all hang out rather than suppress it. Anyway, it gives the rest of us a chance to tell the racists they are on their own. Boris
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3:03am Thu 10 Jan 13

Boris says...

Say It As It Is OK? wrote:
How has a thread about a wheelchair accessible council house turned into what can only be described as one of the worst cases of race hate? It does absolutely nothing to help and those blaming their predicament onto immigrants need to take a close look at themselves before blaming others, irrespective of their colour or nationality.

And my comments come from someone who has, in the past, been accused of racism just for speaking out against certain injustices.
I'm sorry to say it was Mrs Harrison who started it all with her bigoted comments. Then kris H, who would appear to be Mr Harrison, added his contributions. The rest of us have just reacted to them. I doubt if anyone cares any more whether these people get re-housed or when, because they have forfeited such sympathy as they would normally have received. They should take up that offer of a swap to a wheelchair-accessibl
e bungalow in Chelmsford.
[quote][p][bold]Say It As It Is OK?[/bold] wrote: How has a thread about a wheelchair accessible council house turned into what can only be described as one of the worst cases of race hate? It does absolutely nothing to help and those blaming their predicament onto immigrants need to take a close look at themselves before blaming others, irrespective of their colour or nationality. And my comments come from someone who has, in the past, been accused of racism just for speaking out against certain injustices.[/p][/quote]I'm sorry to say it was Mrs Harrison who started it all with her bigoted comments. Then kris H, who would appear to be Mr Harrison, added his contributions. The rest of us have just reacted to them. I doubt if anyone cares any more whether these people get re-housed or when, because they have forfeited such sympathy as they would normally have received. They should take up that offer of a swap to a wheelchair-accessibl e bungalow in Chelmsford. Boris
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6:03am Thu 10 Jan 13

Taj says...

At first I thought the racist bigots were out in force then I realised it was just a narrow minded ignorant individual posting racist comments.
Well written Boris and like minded people.
Government policies past and present have created this housing mess and not the mostly hard working migrants and local people who live here.
At first I thought the racist bigots were out in force then I realised it was just a narrow minded ignorant individual posting racist comments. Well written Boris and like minded people. Government policies past and present have created this housing mess and not the mostly hard working migrants and local people who live here. Taj
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6:57am Thu 10 Jan 13

Dillinga says...

Boris wrote:
Grabber wrote:
I can't believe this thread is still running Gazette gets some moderators to monitor this page if your going to allow people to post comments.
It's true we haven't had a ding-dong like this for a while, but a year or two ago there were several arguments like this. It's probably better to let it all hang out rather than suppress it. Anyway, it gives the rest of us a chance to tell the racists they are on their own.
Sadly all of these posts will vanish this morning the Gazette are all too happy to run this essentially non-story but now the "poor disabled lady" has shown her true colours the comments will be disabled.

Still I have taken the liberty of copying the posts made by Mr & Mrs Harrison I'm sure the misguided, uneducated drivel they have both posted is bordering on inciting racial hatred. Their pathetic opinions will make interesting reading to local housing officers.
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Grabber[/bold] wrote: I can't believe this thread is still running Gazette gets some moderators to monitor this page if your going to allow people to post comments.[/p][/quote]It's true we haven't had a ding-dong like this for a while, but a year or two ago there were several arguments like this. It's probably better to let it all hang out rather than suppress it. Anyway, it gives the rest of us a chance to tell the racists they are on their own.[/p][/quote]Sadly all of these posts will vanish this morning the Gazette are all too happy to run this essentially non-story but now the "poor disabled lady" has shown her true colours the comments will be disabled. Still I have taken the liberty of copying the posts made by Mr & Mrs Harrison I'm sure the misguided, uneducated drivel they have both posted is bordering on inciting racial hatred. Their pathetic opinions will make interesting reading to local housing officers. Dillinga
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9:59am Thu 10 Jan 13

zt00013 says...

The council have a huge waiting list and can't build any social homes due to the borrowing cap, so it is hardly surprising that a disabled lady that is already housed, albeit not very comfortably is further down the list. Priority cases will be single mothers in temporary accommodation that would either wise be homeless, as an example of a more urgent case.
The council have a huge waiting list and can't build any social homes due to the borrowing cap, so it is hardly surprising that a disabled lady that is already housed, albeit not very comfortably is further down the list. Priority cases will be single mothers in temporary accommodation that would either wise be homeless, as an example of a more urgent case. zt00013
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12:05pm Thu 10 Jan 13

kelz_colchester says...

So glad I pay an extortionate amount of tax (almost to the point where I can't live a comfortable life anymore) for these racist idiots! There are millions of UK born citizens who can work and choose not to because they'd prefer handouts from the council, nothing to do with foreigners or immigrants! There is never a need for racism, have respect for other people, most will contribute more to this country than you ever will!
So glad I pay an extortionate amount of tax (almost to the point where I can't live a comfortable life anymore) for these racist idiots! There are millions of UK born citizens who can work and choose not to because they'd prefer handouts from the council, nothing to do with foreigners or immigrants! There is never a need for racism, have respect for other people, most will contribute more to this country than you ever will! kelz_colchester
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12:48pm Thu 10 Jan 13

kris H says...

You know, I just can't believe how many thoughtless and narrow minded people there are living in this country.
Most of you have never watched the news or even read a newspaper then have you.


They have amended the statement they made last year about white Brits living in this country. Where they only stated about London. They have now added three more places to go with it.
That in Luton, Leicester, and Slough, there are more non white Brits living there. That we White Brits are slowly being squeezed out into.

So really this whole thing about being racist did not start by us. It was the narrow mindedness of those that started to comment on this article in the first place that jumped at it.
That did not want to read the truth of what is really going on in this country.

I don't want your sympathy or your stupid comments on here, with a lot of name calling. Your only showing how stupid one is. That they are afraid to open their eyes and see just what is going down.
You know, I just can't believe how many thoughtless and narrow minded people there are living in this country. Most of you have never watched the news or even read a newspaper then have you. They have amended the statement they made last year about white Brits living in this country. Where they only stated about London. They have now added three more places to go with it. That in Luton, Leicester, and Slough, there are more non white Brits living there. That we White Brits are slowly being squeezed out into. So really this whole thing about being racist did not start by us. It was the narrow mindedness of those that started to comment on this article in the first place that jumped at it. That did not want to read the truth of what is really going on in this country. I don't want your sympathy or your stupid comments on here, with a lot of name calling. Your only showing how stupid one is. That they are afraid to open their eyes and see just what is going down. kris H
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1:18pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Bhudeeka says...

for all those on here saying foreigners get everything first before British YOU ARE RIGHT and the rest o fyour anti british liars can shut up I am foreign i know the truth ad you know the truth but you will call your own people racist rather than admit truth - i am ashamed to be foreign i too am sick of seeing new stores opened by foreigners and so on for your info not only do they get wages but they get benefits too and everyone with a brain knows it its disgusting and this lady should bepriority go on call me racist you will look very stupid when you do well more so than you do already
for all those on here saying foreigners get everything first before British YOU ARE RIGHT and the rest o fyour anti british liars can shut up I am foreign i know the truth ad you know the truth but you will call your own people racist rather than admit truth - i am ashamed to be foreign i too am sick of seeing new stores opened by foreigners and so on for your info not only do they get wages but they get benefits too and everyone with a brain knows it its disgusting and this lady should bepriority go on call me racist you will look very stupid when you do well more so than you do already Bhudeeka
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1:25pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Justice79 says...

kris H wrote:
You know, I just can't believe how many thoughtless and narrow minded people there are living in this country.
Most of you have never watched the news or even read a newspaper then have you.


They have amended the statement they made last year about white Brits living in this country. Where they only stated about London. They have now added three more places to go with it.
That in Luton, Leicester, and Slough, there are more non white Brits living there. That we White Brits are slowly being squeezed out into.

So really this whole thing about being racist did not start by us. It was the narrow mindedness of those that started to comment on this article in the first place that jumped at it.
That did not want to read the truth of what is really going on in this country.

I don't want your sympathy or your stupid comments on here, with a lot of name calling. Your only showing how stupid one is. That they are afraid to open their eyes and see just what is going down.
Oh dear you really don't get it do you?

How about you come back with some concrete evidence to back up your pathetic claims, rather than just putting the word fact in capitals the truth of the matter is you have no facts whatsoever.

Racism entered this debate when you and your wife both chose to try and blame your situation on the council giving everything to immigrants which again is not at all true.

For the record I don't think any one is giving you sympathy although we all pity you what a sad existence you must have with such a distorted angry view of the world.

Credit to the Gazette for keeping the comments open on here and to the rest of the posting community for taking the time to come on here and set you straight.
[quote][p][bold]kris H[/bold] wrote: You know, I just can't believe how many thoughtless and narrow minded people there are living in this country. Most of you have never watched the news or even read a newspaper then have you. They have amended the statement they made last year about white Brits living in this country. Where they only stated about London. They have now added three more places to go with it. That in Luton, Leicester, and Slough, there are more non white Brits living there. That we White Brits are slowly being squeezed out into. So really this whole thing about being racist did not start by us. It was the narrow mindedness of those that started to comment on this article in the first place that jumped at it. That did not want to read the truth of what is really going on in this country. I don't want your sympathy or your stupid comments on here, with a lot of name calling. Your only showing how stupid one is. That they are afraid to open their eyes and see just what is going down.[/p][/quote]Oh dear you really don't get it do you? How about you come back with some concrete evidence to back up your pathetic claims, rather than just putting the word fact in capitals the truth of the matter is you have no facts whatsoever. Racism entered this debate when you and your wife both chose to try and blame your situation on the council giving everything to immigrants which again is not at all true. For the record I don't think any one is giving you sympathy although we all pity you what a sad existence you must have with such a distorted angry view of the world. Credit to the Gazette for keeping the comments open on here and to the rest of the posting community for taking the time to come on here and set you straight. Justice79
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1:31pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Justice79 says...

Bhudeeka wrote:
for all those on here saying foreigners get everything first before British YOU ARE RIGHT and the rest o fyour anti british liars can shut up I am foreign i know the truth ad you know the truth but you will call your own people racist rather than admit truth - i am ashamed to be foreign i too am sick of seeing new stores opened by foreigners and so on for your info not only do they get wages but they get benefits too and everyone with a brain knows it its disgusting and this lady should bepriority go on call me racist you will look very stupid when you do well more so than you do already
Aren't you the same brain box that declared the word Nimby was racist or that fare dodging was a worse crime than racist abuse?

The only people making themselves look stupid were Kris and his wife if you want to side with them then you go ahead.
[quote][p][bold]Bhudeeka[/bold] wrote: for all those on here saying foreigners get everything first before British YOU ARE RIGHT and the rest o fyour anti british liars can shut up I am foreign i know the truth ad you know the truth but you will call your own people racist rather than admit truth - i am ashamed to be foreign i too am sick of seeing new stores opened by foreigners and so on for your info not only do they get wages but they get benefits too and everyone with a brain knows it its disgusting and this lady should bepriority go on call me racist you will look very stupid when you do well more so than you do already[/p][/quote]Aren't you the same brain box that declared the word Nimby was racist or that fare dodging was a worse crime than racist abuse? The only people making themselves look stupid were Kris and his wife if you want to side with them then you go ahead. Justice79
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2:36pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Boris says...

Bhudeeka wrote:
for all those on here saying foreigners get everything first before British YOU ARE RIGHT and the rest o fyour anti british liars can shut up I am foreign i know the truth ad you know the truth but you will call your own people racist rather than admit truth - i am ashamed to be foreign i too am sick of seeing new stores opened by foreigners and so on for your info not only do they get wages but they get benefits too and everyone with a brain knows it its disgusting and this lady should bepriority go on call me racist you will look very stupid when you do well more so than you do already
Bhudeeka, I remember having a civilised exchange with you a year or so ago, I think it was about some persecuted peacocks in Fingringhoe.
I am not going to call you anything, but I will just ask you two questions.
1. You have seen that kris and his wife are against foreigners being here, and you are foreign, so why do you take their side?
2. If you are ashamed of being a foreigner in this country, why are you still here? Why not go back to the country you came from? I'm not saying you should - after all, whatever kris says, you are perfectly entitled to be here - but it does seem a shame that you should be unhappy.
[quote][p][bold]Bhudeeka[/bold] wrote: for all those on here saying foreigners get everything first before British YOU ARE RIGHT and the rest o fyour anti british liars can shut up I am foreign i know the truth ad you know the truth but you will call your own people racist rather than admit truth - i am ashamed to be foreign i too am sick of seeing new stores opened by foreigners and so on for your info not only do they get wages but they get benefits too and everyone with a brain knows it its disgusting and this lady should bepriority go on call me racist you will look very stupid when you do well more so than you do already[/p][/quote]Bhudeeka, I remember having a civilised exchange with you a year or so ago, I think it was about some persecuted peacocks in Fingringhoe. I am not going to call you anything, but I will just ask you two questions. 1. You have seen that kris and his wife are against foreigners being here, and you are foreign, so why do you take their side? 2. If you are ashamed of being a foreigner in this country, why are you still here? Why not go back to the country you came from? I'm not saying you should - after all, whatever kris says, you are perfectly entitled to be here - but it does seem a shame that you should be unhappy. Boris
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3:08pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Bobby Walker says...

Housing applications are based on a defined points system, assessed against need. Quite rightly, nowhere in the points system is there a consideration of ethnicity or country of birth.
The problem is the amount of housing is too small for the amount of people needing homes.
Housing applications are based on a defined points system, assessed against need. Quite rightly, nowhere in the points system is there a consideration of ethnicity or country of birth. The problem is the amount of housing is too small for the amount of people needing homes. Bobby Walker
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5:48pm Thu 10 Jan 13

romantic says...

Boris wrote:
Grabber wrote:
I can't believe this thread is still running Gazette gets some moderators to monitor this page if your going to allow people to post comments.
It's true we haven't had a ding-dong like this for a while, but a year or two ago there were several arguments like this. It's probably better to let it all hang out rather than suppress it. Anyway, it gives the rest of us a chance to tell the racists they are on their own.
Agree with you on that. Every time kris H and his wife post, they just dig that hole a little bit deeper. It´s actually quite heartening to see that most of the responses are totally against what he is saying. kris H, you still haven´t really come back with any concrete evidence, only stuff you have read in the paper. Who are these immigrants who are getting housing ahead of you? Do you actually know any? I know quite a lot of people from overseas who live here, work here, pay their taxes, and have never claimed a penny in benefit or got a council house.

Do as Boris says: go and stand for the BNP, and find out the (thankfully) low support that your ignorant racism has in this town.
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Grabber[/bold] wrote: I can't believe this thread is still running Gazette gets some moderators to monitor this page if your going to allow people to post comments.[/p][/quote]It's true we haven't had a ding-dong like this for a while, but a year or two ago there were several arguments like this. It's probably better to let it all hang out rather than suppress it. Anyway, it gives the rest of us a chance to tell the racists they are on their own.[/p][/quote]Agree with you on that. Every time kris H and his wife post, they just dig that hole a little bit deeper. It´s actually quite heartening to see that most of the responses are totally against what he is saying. kris H, you still haven´t really come back with any concrete evidence, only stuff you have read in the paper. Who are these immigrants who are getting housing ahead of you? Do you actually know any? I know quite a lot of people from overseas who live here, work here, pay their taxes, and have never claimed a penny in benefit or got a council house. Do as Boris says: go and stand for the BNP, and find out the (thankfully) low support that your ignorant racism has in this town. romantic
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6:18pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Captain SpaceAce says...

Bobby Walker wrote:
Housing applications are based on a defined points system, assessed against need. Quite rightly, nowhere in the points system is there a consideration of ethnicity or country of birth.
The problem is the amount of housing is too small for the amount of people needing homes.
Absolutely spot on Mr Walker.

Kris H, either you or Mrs Harrison (I forget which) said that the council had actually told you that you'd have a higher priority if you were an immigrant. I can't believe that - is it true?
[quote][p][bold]Bobby Walker[/bold] wrote: Housing applications are based on a defined points system, assessed against need. Quite rightly, nowhere in the points system is there a consideration of ethnicity or country of birth. The problem is the amount of housing is too small for the amount of people needing homes.[/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on Mr Walker. Kris H, either you or Mrs Harrison (I forget which) said that the council had actually told you that you'd have a higher priority if you were an immigrant. I can't believe that - is it true? Captain SpaceAce
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8:06pm Thu 10 Jan 13

kris H says...

You hear it from a foreign person, that tells it as it really is over here.
Yet you stupid people still don't want to accept the fact that it is true. Talk about horses walking round with blinkers on!

An MP even said that it is a sad but true state of affairs. That in this present climate, that priority is given to foreign nationals.

Why is it then that. If we were to say go over to Dublin to work. If you were to get laid off, Or things did not work out in the first 6 months. You would still not qualify for any benefits, Not even help in paying your rent. Because you have not lived and worked for the first two years that you were over there. That is the same in Europe too.

Yet the foreign nationals can come over here with their hands out, and get them filled strait off.

We all know that is true. Just the the majority of us are too scared to stand up and say openly. You just like to grumble inside your mouths, but don't dare to say openly.

Thank you Bhudeeka for proving our points. Glad to hear it from another side that is not afraid too, to tell the truth of how this country really is!
You hear it from a foreign person, that tells it as it really is over here. Yet you stupid people still don't want to accept the fact that it is true. Talk about horses walking round with blinkers on! An MP even said that it is a sad but true state of affairs. That in this present climate, that priority is given to foreign nationals. Why is it then that. If we were to say go over to Dublin to work. If you were to get laid off, Or things did not work out in the first 6 months. You would still not qualify for any benefits, Not even help in paying your rent. Because you have not lived and worked for the first two years that you were over there. That is the same in Europe too. Yet the foreign nationals can come over here with their hands out, and get them filled strait off. We all know that is true. Just the the majority of us are too scared to stand up and say openly. You just like to grumble inside your mouths, but don't dare to say openly. Thank you Bhudeeka for proving our points. Glad to hear it from another side that is not afraid too, to tell the truth of how this country really is! kris H
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8:34pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Captain SpaceAce says...

Which MP said that? It's easy to counter arguments with wooly statements. Watch: "Another MP said that it isn't true!" - proves nothing!

Did the council really tell you themselves that they gave priority to immigrants?
Which MP said that? It's easy to counter arguments with wooly statements. Watch: "Another MP said that it isn't true!" - proves nothing! Did the council really tell you themselves that they gave priority to immigrants? Captain SpaceAce
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9:05pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Dillinga says...

So after an entire day the best you have managed to come up with is "an MP said it" and "you hear it from foreign people"

The only person wearing blinkers here is you. Stop using others to make excuses for yourself be a man and take some responsibility instead of whining like some kind of spoilt child.

YOU ARE OWED NOTHING!
So after an entire day the best you have managed to come up with is "an MP said it" and "you hear it from foreign people" The only person wearing blinkers here is you. Stop using others to make excuses for yourself be a man and take some responsibility instead of whining like some kind of spoilt child. YOU ARE OWED NOTHING! Dillinga
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9:59pm Thu 10 Jan 13

PeachesnMilo37 says...

Thank you all for your comments you make me proud to be british not. By no means am I racist or a bigot. We have done everything in our power to help ourselves. We haven't asked for help with our disability aids just our housing. We brought our own wheelchair and all other disability aids required. Thankfully we can rise above your low sick twisted comments and continue to fight for what we need to live as near a normal life as possible. You should be ashamed of yourselves you all make me sick hiding behind you pathetic excuses when the facts are there for all to see.
Thank you all for your comments you make me proud to be british not. By no means am I racist or a bigot. We have done everything in our power to help ourselves. We haven't asked for help with our disability aids just our housing. We brought our own wheelchair and all other disability aids required. Thankfully we can rise above your low sick twisted comments and continue to fight for what we need to live as near a normal life as possible. You should be ashamed of yourselves you all make me sick hiding behind you pathetic excuses when the facts are there for all to see. PeachesnMilo37
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10:22pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Dillinga says...

Dear me you are certainly a good match for each other as both of you seem as thick as two short planks.

You seem very keen to throw the word facts around with out actually providing any.

As for being proud if you had any pride at all you wouldn't be carrying in like you have here like a pair of backward bigoted racists sitting on your backsides with your hand out running to the paper when you don't get your own way.
Dear me you are certainly a good match for each other as both of you seem as thick as two short planks. You seem very keen to throw the word facts around with out actually providing any. As for being proud if you had any pride at all you wouldn't be carrying in like you have here like a pair of backward bigoted racists sitting on your backsides with your hand out running to the paper when you don't get your own way. Dillinga
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10:30pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Mr C Sense says...

Registered Disabled in December I don’t think so, as there is no such thing. Imagine there was it would be a con mans dream and illegal also because the last time such a register was in use in Europe it was set up by the Nazis and we all know what happened then. It quite simply does not exist and really annoys me when I hear people referring to it as if it did.
Registered Disabled in December I don’t think so, as there is no such thing. Imagine there was it would be a con mans dream and illegal also because the last time such a register was in use in Europe it was set up by the Nazis and we all know what happened then. It quite simply does not exist and really annoys me when I hear people referring to it as if it did. Mr C Sense
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11:41pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Captain SpaceAce says...

"PeachesnMilo37 says...
11:15am Wed 9 Jan 13

The council refuse to adapt our bungalow because it would cost too much."

"PeachesnMilo37 says...
9:59pm Thu 10 Jan 13

... We have done everything in our power to help ourselves. We haven't asked for help with our disability aids just our housing."

Hhhhmmm... which is it?
"PeachesnMilo37 says... 11:15am Wed 9 Jan 13 The council refuse to adapt our bungalow because it would cost too much." "PeachesnMilo37 says... 9:59pm Thu 10 Jan 13 ... We have done everything in our power to help ourselves. We haven't asked for help with our disability aids just our housing." Hhhhmmm... which is it? Captain SpaceAce
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11:45pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Captain SpaceAce says...

Ah-ha! Here it is...
"PeachesnMilo37 says...
1:47pm Wed 9 Jan 13

... We have been told straight from the horses mouth, the council that if a British person goes up against an immigrant or foreigner we get thrown to the wayside and they take priority."

Did the council actually tell you that? I've asked twice now. I just don't believe you, to be honest.
Ah-ha! Here it is... "PeachesnMilo37 says... 1:47pm Wed 9 Jan 13 ... We have been told straight from the horses mouth, the council that if a British person goes up against an immigrant or foreigner we get thrown to the wayside and they take priority." Did the council actually tell you that? I've asked twice now. I just don't believe you, to be honest. Captain SpaceAce
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9:51am Fri 11 Jan 13

GreensteadResident says...

I'm soon to be an ex-Greenstead Resident.

While you people are ripping each apart over who is right and wrong, the MPs are looking at giving themselves a 32% pay rise and the councillors are also looking at giving themselves a pay rise.

I can see a future fast approaching where they won't be ANY welfare state (benefits & pensions), NHS or social housing. Have a look at what is going on.

Whether this will be a good thing or a bad thing - I don't know.

I'm working on the basis that there won't be any welfare state (benefits & pensions), NHS or social housing.

As I see it the whole welfare and social housing system is on the point of collapse - so people better get used to the idea of going back to the old days and become self-sufficient and self-reliant.

The future is going to very bleak for a lot of people.

I wish you all the best but please stop ripping each other apart and pay more attention to how the political parties (ALL of them - Tory, Lab, LibDem, Greens, UKIP and BNP etc) are playing divide and rule games with you while they claim their nice fat MP, MEP and councillor allowances and expenses.

The whole thing is a dirty game.
I'm soon to be an ex-Greenstead Resident. While you people are ripping each apart over who is right and wrong, the MPs are looking at giving themselves a 32% pay rise and the councillors are also looking at giving themselves a pay rise. I can see a future fast approaching where they won't be ANY welfare state (benefits & pensions), NHS or social housing. Have a look at what is going on. Whether this will be a good thing or a bad thing - I don't know. I'm working on the basis that there won't be any welfare state (benefits & pensions), NHS or social housing. As I see it the whole welfare and social housing system is on the point of collapse - so people better get used to the idea of going back to the old days and become self-sufficient and self-reliant. The future is going to very bleak for a lot of people. I wish you all the best but please stop ripping each other apart and pay more attention to how the political parties (ALL of them - Tory, Lab, LibDem, Greens, UKIP and BNP etc) are playing divide and rule games with you while they claim their nice fat MP, MEP and councillor allowances and expenses. The whole thing is a dirty game. GreensteadResident
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10:19am Fri 11 Jan 13

wormshero says...

Most of this seems unbelievable, but despite the racial comments I hope the housing issue gets sorted out.

Oh and welcome back, Kris. Do you have any evidence to back up your made up facts?
Most of this seems unbelievable, but despite the racial comments I hope the housing issue gets sorted out. Oh and welcome back, Kris. Do you have any evidence to back up your made up facts? wormshero
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10:12am Sun 13 Jan 13

theequaliser1 says...

what a miserable compilation of posted tomes here and quite disgraceful;
my parents were immigrants to this town from europe in 1958, my father had his own money and bought his own home outright for cash £1,200 within 6 months: no handout there either!!!! this lady needs assistance and the assessment tariff has all gone to pot and up the shoot since the housing associations got involved. what has happened to the council's CTLA committee colchester tenants & leaseholders association? they used to deal with stuff like this. one way disabled people can move forward is buy the property then sell it for a 1 bed bungalow in a nice area. disabled people get paid a lot in allowances from the state. i dont get the mantra that this and that cannot be afforded the new car scheme is worth about £5,000 a year in real terms after every cost is taken into account. we look after disabled citizens very well in this nation.
i do appreciate that general Boris C.D.M. (cadburys dairy milk) has got involved here but this is not an argument about spongers it should be a discussion about the tariff and the stupid points system for housing allocations in colchester.
this lady needs moving now and this is a testament to the times when our Sir Bob is being ignored SHAMEFULL
what a miserable compilation of posted tomes here and quite disgraceful; my parents were immigrants to this town from europe in 1958, my father had his own money and bought his own home outright for cash £1,200 within 6 months: no handout there either!!!! this lady needs assistance and the assessment tariff has all gone to pot and up the shoot since the housing associations got involved. what has happened to the council's CTLA committee colchester tenants & leaseholders association? they used to deal with stuff like this. one way disabled people can move forward is buy the property then sell it for a 1 bed bungalow in a nice area. disabled people get paid a lot in allowances from the state. i dont get the mantra that this and that cannot be afforded the new car scheme is worth about £5,000 a year in real terms after every cost is taken into account. we look after disabled citizens very well in this nation. i do appreciate that general Boris C.D.M. (cadburys dairy milk) has got involved here but this is not an argument about spongers it should be a discussion about the tariff and the stupid points system for housing allocations in colchester. this lady needs moving now and this is a testament to the times when our Sir Bob is being ignored SHAMEFULL theequaliser1
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2:08am Mon 14 Jan 13

The old see dog says...

With everyone jumping on the waggon asking for proof about que jumping, have you people got hard proof that it is not happening? The proof of the pudding is in the eating. If these people from other lands are not getting priority then we would be walking knee deep through, and over them living on the streets, as there are tens of thousands coming to this land every year with it to be getting even worse soon when we get another two countries joining the EU. Many years ago when I went to the CBC to ask for some help it was refused, when I asked them an off the record question, I got an off the record answer. It was "If I was a non English and could not speak the language, would you give me the help I needed?" and the answer was "Yes", but of course I also have no proof. But never mind, we are all in this together, unless you are a member of Parliament a millionaire, or from another land, and if you are not one of the above then its **** you.
With everyone jumping on the waggon asking for proof about que jumping, have you people got hard proof that it is not happening? The proof of the pudding is in the eating. If these people from other lands are not getting priority then we would be walking knee deep through, and over them living on the streets, as there are tens of thousands coming to this land every year with it to be getting even worse soon when we get another two countries joining the EU. Many years ago when I went to the CBC to ask for some help it was refused, when I asked them an off the record question, I got an off the record answer. It was "If I was a non English and could not speak the language, would you give me the help I needed?" and the answer was "Yes", but of course I also have no proof. But never mind, we are all in this together, unless you are a member of Parliament a millionaire, or from another land, and if you are not one of the above then its **** you. The old see dog
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2:23pm Mon 14 Jan 13

kris H says...

Looks to me, that the only persons that are the real thick (words that I can't use here). Are the ones on here that claim that racism don't happen.

You have two sorts of people in this country.
1, Them that do all what they can to live
2. Them that do all what they can to get for nothing.

Mrs Harrison is the first. Do you think that she wants to be in a wheelchair. Wants to not be able to do the things she could before. That she can't have her independence as she has done before?

Is it so wrong for her to ask for help. Or to get it known, that the council just don't want to know or care?

I think not!

You have people out there that don't want to work and live, and you have those that choose to take what they can get.

To those of you out there that think that Mrs Harrison and I are bigots. You really are walking round with your eyes shut. We can't help but see what really is going on in this country.

It don't take a brain box to work it out.
That us Brits are being pushed into the minority in this country.
I can just see it know.
A revolution starting, and the first ones to snivel and shout, will be you lot that have walked round with your eyes shut.
Looks to me, that the only persons that are the real thick (words that I can't use here). Are the ones on here that claim that racism don't happen. You have two sorts of people in this country. 1, Them that do all what they can to live 2. Them that do all what they can to get for nothing. Mrs Harrison is the first. Do you think that she wants to be in a wheelchair. Wants to not be able to do the things she could before. That she can't have her independence as she has done before? Is it so wrong for her to ask for help. Or to get it known, that the council just don't want to know or care? I think not! You have people out there that don't want to work and live, and you have those that choose to take what they can get. To those of you out there that think that Mrs Harrison and I are bigots. You really are walking round with your eyes shut. We can't help but see what really is going on in this country. It don't take a brain box to work it out. That us Brits are being pushed into the minority in this country. I can just see it know. A revolution starting, and the first ones to snivel and shout, will be you lot that have walked round with your eyes shut. kris H
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3:24pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Justice79 says...

No Kris the thick people are those that use immigration and made up FACTS as you put it to try and get themselves something as and when they want it.

Lets be honest this isn't the first time you've gone running to the paper when you haven't got your way is it? Also were you not only recently moved to the address you are at now, perhaps you should be grateful that there are those of us out there working all the hours we can to not only keep a roof over our heads but to pay taxes to keep you in a home as well.

A revolution may well be coming but you won't be involved that would be too much hard work for the likes of you.
No Kris the thick people are those that use immigration and made up FACTS as you put it to try and get themselves something as and when they want it. Lets be honest this isn't the first time you've gone running to the paper when you haven't got your way is it? Also were you not only recently moved to the address you are at now, perhaps you should be grateful that there are those of us out there working all the hours we can to not only keep a roof over our heads but to pay taxes to keep you in a home as well. A revolution may well be coming but you won't be involved that would be too much hard work for the likes of you. Justice79
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