‘Traffic nightmare’ fear on homes plan

‘Traffic nightmare’ fear on homes plan

‘Traffic nightmare’ fear on homes plan

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BLUEPRINTS to regenerate land off Magdalen Street, Colchester, could create a traffic “nightmare”, councillors warned.

Colchester Council has drawn up a brief setting out how the 1.4 hectares could be developed.

The brief includes plans for 70 homes, open spaces, and a doctor’s surgery.

Kim Naish, a member of the local plan committee, voiced his concerns when it was asked to consider whether the brief will be used as guidance for developments.

Mr Naish, Berechurch ward councillor, said: “The parking and access gave me nightmares.”

He said nearby George Williams Way was already blighted by cars parked on pavements.

Shrub End ward councillor Lyn Barton told committee members she had “serious concerns” about access to the site from Magdalen Street.

She said: “I don’t know what the solution is. That is horrendous with that road. If we are getting 70 houses, that is going to be a nightmare.

“Hopefully, there will be good cycling routes, but what else can we do? It is going to be totally unacceptable to move around and function.”

Martin Goss, committee deputy chairman, said he was concerned over the site’s commercial viability.

He pointed out the land was contaminated, with a high clear-up cost involved. He also voiced concerns over pollution.

Magdalen Street is already an air quality management area due to high traffic levels. “Are we developing something for the sake of development?” Mr Goss asked.

Councillor Annie Feltham, whose New Town ward borders the site, described it as an “eccentric piece of land”, but welcomed its regeneration.

She urged the council to ensure development included green spaces for children to play in and sufficient car parking.

Simon Cairns, the council’s planning project manager, said any potential developer would be asked to submit evidence to show impact on air quality.

He said a developer would also have to demonstrate a project would be viable and added many of the cars in the area belonged to commuters, not home owners.

Mr Cairns said open spaces would have to be “usable and meaningful”.

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5:27pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Shrubendlad says...

Every time someone proposes new housing in that area-the Lib Dems claim it would be a traffic nightmare. My maternal grandparents brought up five children at their coal business at the now demolished 80 Magdalen Street. 75/100 years ago it was a mixture of commercial and domestic with Paxmans on Hythe Hill. The bus station had 50 commercial vehicles going in and out. More affordable housing is needed close to the Town Centre and the poor housing stock in the New Town area needs modernising.
Every time someone proposes new housing in that area-the Lib Dems claim it would be a traffic nightmare. My maternal grandparents brought up five children at their coal business at the now demolished 80 Magdalen Street. 75/100 years ago it was a mixture of commercial and domestic with Paxmans on Hythe Hill. The bus station had 50 commercial vehicles going in and out. More affordable housing is needed close to the Town Centre and the poor housing stock in the New Town area needs modernising. Shrubendlad
  • Score: -6

5:41pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Shrubendlad says...

Shrubendlad wrote:
Every time someone proposes new housing in that area-the Lib Dems claim it would be a traffic nightmare. My maternal grandparents brought up five children at their coal business at the now demolished 80 Magdalen Street. 75/100 years ago it was a mixture of commercial and domestic with Paxmans on Hythe Hill. The bus station had 50 commercial vehicles going in and out. More affordable housing is needed close to the Town Centre and the poor housing stock in the New Town area needs modernising.
I drove down Brook Street yesterday and the new houses at the top end contrasted with the (apols to the residents) poor ancient housing stock at the East Hill end.
Every time new replacement houses are suggested the heritage anoraks come out--but those ancient dwellings are just not fit for a 21st Century town without a full overhaul.
[quote][p][bold]Shrubendlad[/bold] wrote: Every time someone proposes new housing in that area-the Lib Dems claim it would be a traffic nightmare. My maternal grandparents brought up five children at their coal business at the now demolished 80 Magdalen Street. 75/100 years ago it was a mixture of commercial and domestic with Paxmans on Hythe Hill. The bus station had 50 commercial vehicles going in and out. More affordable housing is needed close to the Town Centre and the poor housing stock in the New Town area needs modernising.[/p][/quote]I drove down Brook Street yesterday and the new houses at the top end contrasted with the (apols to the residents) poor ancient housing stock at the East Hill end. Every time new replacement houses are suggested the heritage anoraks come out--but those ancient dwellings are just not fit for a 21st Century town without a full overhaul. Shrubendlad
  • Score: 0

6:55pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Reginald47 says...

Please do tell us where you live so we can send Kim Naish round. Suggesting he's a Lib Dem is the worst possible insult you could throw at him. He is Labour, but that's possibly even worse.
Please do tell us where you live so we can send Kim Naish round. Suggesting he's a Lib Dem is the worst possible insult you could throw at him. He is Labour, but that's possibly even worse. Reginald47
  • Score: 0

7:05pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Shrubendlad says...

Reginald47 wrote:
Please do tell us where you live so we can send Kim Naish round. Suggesting he's a Lib Dem is the worst possible insult you could throw at him. He is Labour, but that's possibly even worse.
I though the Lib Dems and Labour were in coalition. That area is the centre of Lib Dem activity and yet it doesn't seem to have benefited from their "attention". Town and County councillor Mrs Higgins was last seen standing in front of the bus garage-in her Benny Hill hat claiming a bright new future for the area.
[quote][p][bold]Reginald47[/bold] wrote: Please do tell us where you live so we can send Kim Naish round. Suggesting he's a Lib Dem is the worst possible insult you could throw at him. He is Labour, but that's possibly even worse.[/p][/quote]I though the Lib Dems and Labour were in coalition. That area is the centre of Lib Dem activity and yet it doesn't seem to have benefited from their "attention". Town and County councillor Mrs Higgins was last seen standing in front of the bus garage-in her Benny Hill hat claiming a bright new future for the area. Shrubendlad
  • Score: 2

7:38pm Wed 20 Aug 14

seikothrill says...

70 homes - stop moaning and get building as I really believe there would not be any further traffic issues

Just like 1600 houses in Mile End will not create any problems around North Station so the Colchester Council announced.

I am for all developments now as none will impact more on an area like North Station than the previously mentioned 1600 homes.

If 1600 houses can be approved so can 70
70 homes - stop moaning and get building as I really believe there would not be any further traffic issues Just like 1600 houses in Mile End will not create any problems around North Station so the Colchester Council announced. I am for all developments now as none will impact more on an area like North Station than the previously mentioned 1600 homes. If 1600 houses can be approved so can 70 seikothrill
  • Score: -1

8:54pm Wed 20 Aug 14

FaircloughA says...

All these new housing estates keep being built but where are the new roads & schools to accommodate them?!!!
All these new housing estates keep being built but where are the new roads & schools to accommodate them?!!! FaircloughA
  • Score: 4

1:16am Thu 21 Aug 14

Assimilation says...

Build, build, build. That's what I say. You lot and everyone else wont be happy until the is not a tree or blade of grass left.

Bricks and concrete as far as the eye can see.
Build, build, build. That's what I say. You lot and everyone else wont be happy until the is not a tree or blade of grass left. Bricks and concrete as far as the eye can see. Assimilation
  • Score: 5

8:06am Thu 21 Aug 14

Brown Envelopes says...

1 Why not build ?

2 What is the problem building on filthy Barron land ?

3 Cars will be electric soon so will buses so what ?

4 Grown up you lot will you get real houses and homes means roofs over peoples heads.

5 Do you expect everyone to end up sleeping in shop door ways ?

6 If you want blades of grass and a field go to circular road ?

7 Breath !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!
1 Why not build ? 2 What is the problem building on filthy Barron land ? 3 Cars will be electric soon so will buses so what ? 4 Grown up you lot will you get real houses and homes means roofs over peoples heads. 5 Do you expect everyone to end up sleeping in shop door ways ? 6 If you want blades of grass and a field go to circular road ? 7 Breath !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! Brown Envelopes
  • Score: -5

9:59am Thu 21 Aug 14

Shrubendlad says...

Brown Envelopes wrote:
1 Why not build ?

2 What is the problem building on filthy Barron land ?

3 Cars will be electric soon so will buses so what ?

4 Grown up you lot will you get real houses and homes means roofs over peoples heads.

5 Do you expect everyone to end up sleeping in shop door ways ?

6 If you want blades of grass and a field go to circular road ?

7 Breath !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!
The housing stock in that whole area of east Colchester is poor.
It need modern affordable housing and services.
It was designed for horses and carts.
It needs decent schools and support services.
Fewer Students -more Colchester Residents.
And yes these are not green field sites-they a brown sites in inner town areas.
[quote][p][bold]Brown Envelopes[/bold] wrote: 1 Why not build ? 2 What is the problem building on filthy Barron land ? 3 Cars will be electric soon so will buses so what ? 4 Grown up you lot will you get real houses and homes means roofs over peoples heads. 5 Do you expect everyone to end up sleeping in shop door ways ? 6 If you want blades of grass and a field go to circular road ? 7 Breath !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!![/p][/quote]The housing stock in that whole area of east Colchester is poor. It need modern affordable housing and services. It was designed for horses and carts. It needs decent schools and support services. Fewer Students -more Colchester Residents. And yes these are not green field sites-they a brown sites in inner town areas. Shrubendlad
  • Score: 1

10:28am Thu 21 Aug 14

AngryManNewTown says...

Reginald47 wrote:
Please do tell us where you live so we can send Kim Naish round. Suggesting he's a Lib Dem is the worst possible insult you could throw at him. He is Labour, but that's possibly even worse.
He is labour but not for the ward that this is in!
[quote][p][bold]Reginald47[/bold] wrote: Please do tell us where you live so we can send Kim Naish round. Suggesting he's a Lib Dem is the worst possible insult you could throw at him. He is Labour, but that's possibly even worse.[/p][/quote]He is labour but not for the ward that this is in! AngryManNewTown
  • Score: 4

10:30am Thu 21 Aug 14

AngryManNewTown says...

There was an idea to make this area an extention to the existing alms houses and specially designed apartments, where has this plan got to???
There was an idea to make this area an extention to the existing alms houses and specially designed apartments, where has this plan got to??? AngryManNewTown
  • Score: 1

10:36am Fri 22 Aug 14

Frank Scully says...

Shrubendlad wrote:
Every time someone proposes new housing in that area-the Lib Dems claim it would be a traffic nightmare. My maternal grandparents brought up five children at their coal business at the now demolished 80 Magdalen Street. 75/100 years ago it was a mixture of commercial and domestic with Paxmans on Hythe Hill. The bus station had 50 commercial vehicles going in and out. More affordable housing is needed close to the Town Centre and the poor housing stock in the New Town area needs modernising.
Yes I agree. I get tired of hearing councillors talking about "nightmares". It's just wind up bogeyman nonsense that stirs up the NIMBYS and heritage loons.
[quote][p][bold]Shrubendlad[/bold] wrote: Every time someone proposes new housing in that area-the Lib Dems claim it would be a traffic nightmare. My maternal grandparents brought up five children at their coal business at the now demolished 80 Magdalen Street. 75/100 years ago it was a mixture of commercial and domestic with Paxmans on Hythe Hill. The bus station had 50 commercial vehicles going in and out. More affordable housing is needed close to the Town Centre and the poor housing stock in the New Town area needs modernising.[/p][/quote]Yes I agree. I get tired of hearing councillors talking about "nightmares". It's just wind up bogeyman nonsense that stirs up the NIMBYS and heritage loons. Frank Scully
  • Score: 0

12:32pm Fri 22 Aug 14

William George says...

Shrubendlad wrote:
Reginald47 wrote:
Please do tell us where you live so we can send Kim Naish round. Suggesting he's a Lib Dem is the worst possible insult you could throw at him. He is Labour, but that's possibly even worse.
I though the Lib Dems and Labour were in coalition. That area is the centre of Lib Dem activity and yet it doesn't seem to have benefited from their "attention". Town and County councillor Mrs Higgins was last seen standing in front of the bus garage-in her Benny Hill hat claiming a bright new future for the area.
She had a small helmet on under her hat though incase some of the bus garage fell down on her.
[quote][p][bold]Shrubendlad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reginald47[/bold] wrote: Please do tell us where you live so we can send Kim Naish round. Suggesting he's a Lib Dem is the worst possible insult you could throw at him. He is Labour, but that's possibly even worse.[/p][/quote]I though the Lib Dems and Labour were in coalition. That area is the centre of Lib Dem activity and yet it doesn't seem to have benefited from their "attention". Town and County councillor Mrs Higgins was last seen standing in front of the bus garage-in her Benny Hill hat claiming a bright new future for the area.[/p][/quote]She had a small helmet on under her hat though incase some of the bus garage fell down on her. William George
  • Score: 2

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