£125k salary offered for new school head

Gazette: £125k salary offered for new school head £125k salary offered for new school head

A SECONDARY school is offering a £125,000 salary for its new headteacher.

The hefty pay packet for the new leader at Colchester’s Philip Morant School and College is thought to be one of the highest in the country.

The job spec, advertised by the Times Educational Supplement, asks for an “amazing” candidate to lead the 1,600-pupil school and its 400 staff.

The school was told it needed to improve by Ofsted inspectors last year.

It has been run by acting head Rob James since Roger Abo-Henriksen retired last summer.

Mr James, a former deputy headteacher at Philip Morant, will continue until next September, when the full-time head is due to start.

Lorna Kean, chairman of governors, said in a statement: “The position is the governors have a duty to recruit the very best candidate for this most important role in our school, which will ensure that our students continue to receive the very best education.

“We are a large school and college and the salary advertised is within the guidelines of the Teachers' Pay and Conditions set by the Government and is comparable with that offered by other schools.”

However the salary will vastly exceed that of the average head teacher’s salary in a state school - £61,000, according to the Department for Education.

See today's Gazette

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6:33am Fri 14 Feb 14

siteman says...

Nobody is worth that amount of money. That is £2 500 a week!
Nobody is worth that amount of money. That is £2 500 a week! siteman

6:34am Fri 14 Feb 14

siteman says...

Nobody is worrth £2 500 a week!
Nobody is worrth £2 500 a week! siteman

8:07am Fri 14 Feb 14

LeQueen says...

Good, we need to attract the brightest and the best to this position.

Pay peanuts, get monkeys.
Good, we need to attract the brightest and the best to this position. Pay peanuts, get monkeys. LeQueen

9:04am Fri 14 Feb 14

Jack222 says...

That's about right for a business of this size.

I know people will say it's only a school - but it isn't it's a business with a huge cash flow and massively ridiculous government demands.

To make comparisons note the staff size - 150 or so. That's a lot of employees...
That's about right for a business of this size. I know people will say it's only a school - but it isn't it's a business with a huge cash flow and massively ridiculous government demands. To make comparisons note the staff size - 150 or so. That's a lot of employees... Jack222

9:17am Fri 14 Feb 14

TheCaptain says...

Jack222 wrote:
That's about right for a business of this size.

I know people will say it's only a school - but it isn't it's a business with a huge cash flow and massively ridiculous government demands.

To make comparisons note the staff size - 150 or so. That's a lot of employees...
But people moan when Essex CC CEO earns £200,000 with thousands of staff.
[quote][p][bold]Jack222[/bold] wrote: That's about right for a business of this size. I know people will say it's only a school - but it isn't it's a business with a huge cash flow and massively ridiculous government demands. To make comparisons note the staff size - 150 or so. That's a lot of employees...[/p][/quote]But people moan when Essex CC CEO earns £200,000 with thousands of staff. TheCaptain

9:49am Fri 14 Feb 14

JCoe1980 says...

In the grand scale of this role, this is not that much money. I work in IT as a contractor and earn more than this. Albeit in the city of London.

The stress, conflicts and amount of power this person will hold requires this sort of month to attract the right candidate and more importantly..keep them!
In the grand scale of this role, this is not that much money. I work in IT as a contractor and earn more than this. Albeit in the city of London. The stress, conflicts and amount of power this person will hold requires this sort of month to attract the right candidate and more importantly..keep them! JCoe1980

10:07am Fri 14 Feb 14

thecapedcrusader69 says...

LeQueen wrote:
Good, we need to attract the brightest and the best to this position.

Pay peanuts, get monkeys.
61k is hardly peanuts?
[quote][p][bold]LeQueen[/bold] wrote: Good, we need to attract the brightest and the best to this position. Pay peanuts, get monkeys.[/p][/quote]61k is hardly peanuts? thecapedcrusader69

10:52am Fri 14 Feb 14

jut1972 says...

thecapedcrusader69 wrote:
LeQueen wrote:
Good, we need to attract the brightest and the best to this position.

Pay peanuts, get monkeys.
61k is hardly peanuts?
No its average. If my kid was at this school I wouldn't want an average head I'd want the best. It's a clever move. Someone good but not that good may still get it but they won't command 125k. But if the right person came along the enticement is there.
[quote][p][bold]thecapedcrusader69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeQueen[/bold] wrote: Good, we need to attract the brightest and the best to this position. Pay peanuts, get monkeys.[/p][/quote]61k is hardly peanuts?[/p][/quote]No its average. If my kid was at this school I wouldn't want an average head I'd want the best. It's a clever move. Someone good but not that good may still get it but they won't command 125k. But if the right person came along the enticement is there. jut1972

10:58am Fri 14 Feb 14

Jess Jephcott says...

An MP gets half that and they run the country. Are we saying that running a primary school is harder work?
An MP gets half that and they run the country. Are we saying that running a primary school is harder work? Jess Jephcott

11:51am Fri 14 Feb 14

Say It As It Is OK? says...

Jess Jephcott wrote:
An MP gets half that and they run the country. Are we saying that running a primary school is harder work?
And most MPs take more out than they put in, particularly with second homes and over generous expenses. NB: Philip Morant is not a primary School!

Anyway, whatever the succesful candidate earns its unlikely performance targets will count for much. History has proved many people in the public sector, who are less than proficient, can maintain their job security and salary package which is rarely performance based. But if they do have to go, like the last head of Philip Morant, they can look forward to a generous leaving package from tax payer funds.
[quote][p][bold]Jess Jephcott[/bold] wrote: An MP gets half that and they run the country. Are we saying that running a primary school is harder work?[/p][/quote]And most MPs take more out than they put in, particularly with second homes and over generous expenses. NB: Philip Morant is not a primary School! Anyway, whatever the succesful candidate earns its unlikely performance targets will count for much. History has proved many people in the public sector, who are less than proficient, can maintain their job security and salary package which is rarely performance based. But if they do have to go, like the last head of Philip Morant, they can look forward to a generous leaving package from tax payer funds. Say It As It Is OK?

1:09pm Fri 14 Feb 14

thehappyholly89 says...

How lovely a headteacher gets 125k a year to sit in an office trained nurses that save people lives get not much more then 25k and I dont know how much soldiers are paid to risk there lives in iraq/afghanistan or any other hostile country but im pretty sure its not evan half of that!
How lovely a headteacher gets 125k a year to sit in an office trained nurses that save people lives get not much more then 25k and I dont know how much soldiers are paid to risk there lives in iraq/afghanistan or any other hostile country but im pretty sure its not evan half of that! thehappyholly89

1:25pm Fri 14 Feb 14

julieee says...

thehappyholly89 wrote:
How lovely a headteacher gets 125k a year to sit in an office trained nurses that save people lives get not much more then 25k and I dont know how much soldiers are paid to risk there lives in iraq/afghanistan or any other hostile country but im pretty sure its not evan half of that!
No need to reduce teacher salary though, fight to increase nurses and soldiers and others who make a difference to life rather than cash
[quote][p][bold]thehappyholly89[/bold] wrote: How lovely a headteacher gets 125k a year to sit in an office trained nurses that save people lives get not much more then 25k and I dont know how much soldiers are paid to risk there lives in iraq/afghanistan or any other hostile country but im pretty sure its not evan half of that![/p][/quote]No need to reduce teacher salary though, fight to increase nurses and soldiers and others who make a difference to life rather than cash julieee

1:41pm Fri 14 Feb 14

thecapedcrusader69 says...

jut1972 wrote:
thecapedcrusader69 wrote:
LeQueen wrote:
Good, we need to attract the brightest and the best to this position.

Pay peanuts, get monkeys.
61k is hardly peanuts?
No its average. If my kid was at this school I wouldn't want an average head I'd want the best. It's a clever move. Someone good but not that good may still get it but they won't command 125k. But if the right person came along the enticement is there.
That is true, but doubling the wage?? Seems a little excessive don't you think? Considering the last ofsted report I agree you need an exceptional head to make improvement here but we must not forget this wage comes from tax payers pockets. I don't see the sense in pay this new head 30-40k more than is necessary when money is as tight as it is.
[quote][p][bold]jut1972[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thecapedcrusader69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeQueen[/bold] wrote: Good, we need to attract the brightest and the best to this position. Pay peanuts, get monkeys.[/p][/quote]61k is hardly peanuts?[/p][/quote]No its average. If my kid was at this school I wouldn't want an average head I'd want the best. It's a clever move. Someone good but not that good may still get it but they won't command 125k. But if the right person came along the enticement is there.[/p][/quote]That is true, but doubling the wage?? Seems a little excessive don't you think? Considering the last ofsted report I agree you need an exceptional head to make improvement here but we must not forget this wage comes from tax payers pockets. I don't see the sense in pay this new head 30-40k more than is necessary when money is as tight as it is. thecapedcrusader69

2:32pm Fri 14 Feb 14

wearebeingwatched says...

thecapedcrusader69 wrote:
jut1972 wrote:
thecapedcrusader69 wrote:
LeQueen wrote:
Good, we need to attract the brightest and the best to this position.

Pay peanuts, get monkeys.
61k is hardly peanuts?
No its average. If my kid was at this school I wouldn't want an average head I'd want the best. It's a clever move. Someone good but not that good may still get it but they won't command 125k. But if the right person came along the enticement is there.
That is true, but doubling the wage?? Seems a little excessive don't you think? Considering the last ofsted report I agree you need an exceptional head to make improvement here but we must not forget this wage comes from tax payers pockets. I don't see the sense in pay this new head 30-40k more than is necessary when money is as tight as it is.
They are not doubling the last salary, they offering double of the average. The average which takes into account primary and secondary school head's salaries, regardless of the size of the school, so there will be massive variances between the low end and the top end of the salaries. Philip Morant is a large school and thus any head working there should expect an above average salary.

Add to that the problems that the school has had over the last few years, it needs to bring in someone that is going to be an exceptional head and turn it back into the successful school it was. To get someone of that calibre you are going to have pay towards the top end of salary scale. £125K for someone to turn around a large a school of 1600 pupils and 400 staff does not seem excessive to me, it appears about right.
[quote][p][bold]thecapedcrusader69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jut1972[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thecapedcrusader69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeQueen[/bold] wrote: Good, we need to attract the brightest and the best to this position. Pay peanuts, get monkeys.[/p][/quote]61k is hardly peanuts?[/p][/quote]No its average. If my kid was at this school I wouldn't want an average head I'd want the best. It's a clever move. Someone good but not that good may still get it but they won't command 125k. But if the right person came along the enticement is there.[/p][/quote]That is true, but doubling the wage?? Seems a little excessive don't you think? Considering the last ofsted report I agree you need an exceptional head to make improvement here but we must not forget this wage comes from tax payers pockets. I don't see the sense in pay this new head 30-40k more than is necessary when money is as tight as it is.[/p][/quote]They are not doubling the last salary, they offering double of the average. The average which takes into account primary and secondary school head's salaries, regardless of the size of the school, so there will be massive variances between the low end and the top end of the salaries. Philip Morant is a large school and thus any head working there should expect an above average salary. Add to that the problems that the school has had over the last few years, it needs to bring in someone that is going to be an exceptional head and turn it back into the successful school it was. To get someone of that calibre you are going to have pay towards the top end of salary scale. £125K for someone to turn around a large a school of 1600 pupils and 400 staff does not seem excessive to me, it appears about right. wearebeingwatched

2:38pm Fri 14 Feb 14

thecapedcrusader69 says...

wearebeingwatched wrote:
thecapedcrusader69 wrote:
jut1972 wrote:
thecapedcrusader69 wrote:
LeQueen wrote:
Good, we need to attract the brightest and the best to this position.

Pay peanuts, get monkeys.
61k is hardly peanuts?
No its average. If my kid was at this school I wouldn't want an average head I'd want the best. It's a clever move. Someone good but not that good may still get it but they won't command 125k. But if the right person came along the enticement is there.
That is true, but doubling the wage?? Seems a little excessive don't you think? Considering the last ofsted report I agree you need an exceptional head to make improvement here but we must not forget this wage comes from tax payers pockets. I don't see the sense in pay this new head 30-40k more than is necessary when money is as tight as it is.
They are not doubling the last salary, they offering double of the average. The average which takes into account primary and secondary school head's salaries, regardless of the size of the school, so there will be massive variances between the low end and the top end of the salaries. Philip Morant is a large school and thus any head working there should expect an above average salary.

Add to that the problems that the school has had over the last few years, it needs to bring in someone that is going to be an exceptional head and turn it back into the successful school it was. To get someone of that calibre you are going to have pay towards the top end of salary scale. £125K for someone to turn around a large a school of 1600 pupils and 400 staff does not seem excessive to me, it appears about right.
Well obviously you're a lot more free with money than I am.
[quote][p][bold]wearebeingwatched[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thecapedcrusader69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jut1972[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thecapedcrusader69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeQueen[/bold] wrote: Good, we need to attract the brightest and the best to this position. Pay peanuts, get monkeys.[/p][/quote]61k is hardly peanuts?[/p][/quote]No its average. If my kid was at this school I wouldn't want an average head I'd want the best. It's a clever move. Someone good but not that good may still get it but they won't command 125k. But if the right person came along the enticement is there.[/p][/quote]That is true, but doubling the wage?? Seems a little excessive don't you think? Considering the last ofsted report I agree you need an exceptional head to make improvement here but we must not forget this wage comes from tax payers pockets. I don't see the sense in pay this new head 30-40k more than is necessary when money is as tight as it is.[/p][/quote]They are not doubling the last salary, they offering double of the average. The average which takes into account primary and secondary school head's salaries, regardless of the size of the school, so there will be massive variances between the low end and the top end of the salaries. Philip Morant is a large school and thus any head working there should expect an above average salary. Add to that the problems that the school has had over the last few years, it needs to bring in someone that is going to be an exceptional head and turn it back into the successful school it was. To get someone of that calibre you are going to have pay towards the top end of salary scale. £125K for someone to turn around a large a school of 1600 pupils and 400 staff does not seem excessive to me, it appears about right.[/p][/quote]Well obviously you're a lot more free with money than I am. thecapedcrusader69

3:13pm Fri 14 Feb 14

wearebeingwatched says...

thecapedcrusader69 wrote:
wearebeingwatched wrote:
thecapedcrusader69 wrote:
jut1972 wrote:
thecapedcrusader69 wrote:
LeQueen wrote:
Good, we need to attract the brightest and the best to this position.

Pay peanuts, get monkeys.
61k is hardly peanuts?
No its average. If my kid was at this school I wouldn't want an average head I'd want the best. It's a clever move. Someone good but not that good may still get it but they won't command 125k. But if the right person came along the enticement is there.
That is true, but doubling the wage?? Seems a little excessive don't you think? Considering the last ofsted report I agree you need an exceptional head to make improvement here but we must not forget this wage comes from tax payers pockets. I don't see the sense in pay this new head 30-40k more than is necessary when money is as tight as it is.
They are not doubling the last salary, they offering double of the average. The average which takes into account primary and secondary school head's salaries, regardless of the size of the school, so there will be massive variances between the low end and the top end of the salaries. Philip Morant is a large school and thus any head working there should expect an above average salary.

Add to that the problems that the school has had over the last few years, it needs to bring in someone that is going to be an exceptional head and turn it back into the successful school it was. To get someone of that calibre you are going to have pay towards the top end of salary scale. £125K for someone to turn around a large a school of 1600 pupils and 400 staff does not seem excessive to me, it appears about right.
Well obviously you're a lot more free with money than I am.
Not at all, but I do recognise if you want the best you have to pay for the best.
[quote][p][bold]thecapedcrusader69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wearebeingwatched[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thecapedcrusader69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jut1972[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thecapedcrusader69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeQueen[/bold] wrote: Good, we need to attract the brightest and the best to this position. Pay peanuts, get monkeys.[/p][/quote]61k is hardly peanuts?[/p][/quote]No its average. If my kid was at this school I wouldn't want an average head I'd want the best. It's a clever move. Someone good but not that good may still get it but they won't command 125k. But if the right person came along the enticement is there.[/p][/quote]That is true, but doubling the wage?? Seems a little excessive don't you think? Considering the last ofsted report I agree you need an exceptional head to make improvement here but we must not forget this wage comes from tax payers pockets. I don't see the sense in pay this new head 30-40k more than is necessary when money is as tight as it is.[/p][/quote]They are not doubling the last salary, they offering double of the average. The average which takes into account primary and secondary school head's salaries, regardless of the size of the school, so there will be massive variances between the low end and the top end of the salaries. Philip Morant is a large school and thus any head working there should expect an above average salary. Add to that the problems that the school has had over the last few years, it needs to bring in someone that is going to be an exceptional head and turn it back into the successful school it was. To get someone of that calibre you are going to have pay towards the top end of salary scale. £125K for someone to turn around a large a school of 1600 pupils and 400 staff does not seem excessive to me, it appears about right.[/p][/quote]Well obviously you're a lot more free with money than I am.[/p][/quote]Not at all, but I do recognise if you want the best you have to pay for the best. wearebeingwatched

4:52pm Fri 14 Feb 14

stevedawson says...

I always suspected there was no truth in the rumour that the country had depts of a trillion pounds.
I always suspected there was no truth in the rumour that the country had depts of a trillion pounds. stevedawson

6:46pm Fri 14 Feb 14

Suffolkcommuter says...

Today, Essex CC announce huge cuts to Children's Centres across the county to save money?

But 125k for a school head is ok?

Are we really that frightened of Ofsted?

The Director for children's services across the whole county doesn't earn that.

Makes no sense to me.
Today, Essex CC announce huge cuts to Children's Centres across the county to save money? But 125k for a school head is ok? Are we really that frightened of Ofsted? The Director for children's services across the whole county doesn't earn that. Makes no sense to me. Suffolkcommuter

11:13pm Fri 14 Feb 14

Reginald47 says...

siteman wrote:
Nobody is worth that amount of money. That is £2 500 a week!
You mean other than footballers ...
[quote][p][bold]siteman[/bold] wrote: Nobody is worth that amount of money. That is £2 500 a week![/p][/quote]You mean other than footballers ... Reginald47

12:24am Sat 15 Feb 14

Boris says...

Reginald47 wrote:
siteman wrote:
Nobody is worth that amount of money. That is £2 500 a week!
You mean other than footballers ...
Top footballers earn a lot more than that. Add a nought or two. They are in the JCoe1980 class.
[quote][p][bold]Reginald47[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]siteman[/bold] wrote: Nobody is worth that amount of money. That is £2 500 a week![/p][/quote]You mean other than footballers ...[/p][/quote]Top footballers earn a lot more than that. Add a nought or two. They are in the JCoe1980 class. Boris

11:29am Sat 15 Feb 14

southstand says...

£125,00 for a state school head, no wonder the country sinks into another £100 billion or so debt every year, at some point in the future the uk taxes will be used just to service the interest on the trillions of debt and there will be no state schools or hospitals at all!. School head 13 weeks holiday, possible 30 years of gold plated pension absolutely criminal and don't compare to bankers they have played a large part in the chaos that is the uk now.
£125,00 for a state school head, no wonder the country sinks into another £100 billion or so debt every year, at some point in the future the uk taxes will be used just to service the interest on the trillions of debt and there will be no state schools or hospitals at all!. School head 13 weeks holiday, possible 30 years of gold plated pension absolutely criminal and don't compare to bankers they have played a large part in the chaos that is the uk now. southstand

11:05am Sun 16 Feb 14

stevedawson says...

Jess the establishment run the country, mp's are just the front for a sham democracy.
Jess the establishment run the country, mp's are just the front for a sham democracy. stevedawson

1:07pm Mon 17 Feb 14

wearebeingwatched says...

southstand wrote:
£125,00 for a state school head, no wonder the country sinks into another £100 billion or so debt every year, at some point in the future the uk taxes will be used just to service the interest on the trillions of debt and there will be no state schools or hospitals at all!. School head 13 weeks holiday, possible 30 years of gold plated pension absolutely criminal and don't compare to bankers they have played a large part in the chaos that is the uk now.
If you really think head's take 13 weeks holiday and only work 8.30 to 3.30, you really need to take your head of the sand. Head's typically work a lot longer hours than most of us and take no more holiday than the rest of us.

I know quite a few teachers socially, some just normal teachers, some senior managers and one a head and I can tell you they are all dedicated to educating the next generation and certainly put in more hours/effort than they standard school hours and term time. They all work late, well into the evening and then give their 'holiday time'. In my opinion worth every penny they get.

I certainly would not become one, even for double the salary of the head's and the senior teachers.
[quote][p][bold]southstand[/bold] wrote: £125,00 for a state school head, no wonder the country sinks into another £100 billion or so debt every year, at some point in the future the uk taxes will be used just to service the interest on the trillions of debt and there will be no state schools or hospitals at all!. School head 13 weeks holiday, possible 30 years of gold plated pension absolutely criminal and don't compare to bankers they have played a large part in the chaos that is the uk now.[/p][/quote]If you really think head's take 13 weeks holiday and only work 8.30 to 3.30, you really need to take your head of the sand. Head's typically work a lot longer hours than most of us and take no more holiday than the rest of us. I know quite a few teachers socially, some just normal teachers, some senior managers and one a head and I can tell you they are all dedicated to educating the next generation and certainly put in more hours/effort than they standard school hours and term time. They all work late, well into the evening and then give their 'holiday time'. In my opinion worth every penny they get. I certainly would not become one, even for double the salary of the head's and the senior teachers. wearebeingwatched

4:59pm Mon 17 Feb 14

wormshero says...

It's a lot of money but as others have said, pay good money get good people. Also it's all relative, I understand the nurses argument (I think they should be paid more than they are. Not so bothered about armed forces salary, being sent to fight wars where we don't need to, but that's just my personal view) in that they help with injuries etc. but for the next generation of doctors etc. they need a good fundamental education so a top quality team of teachers managed by a top quality head is massively desirable.
It's a lot of money but as others have said, pay good money get good people. Also it's all relative, I understand the nurses argument (I think they should be paid more than they are. Not so bothered about armed forces salary, being sent to fight wars where we don't need to, but that's just my personal view) in that they help with injuries etc. but for the next generation of doctors etc. they need a good fundamental education so a top quality team of teachers managed by a top quality head is massively desirable. wormshero

9:05pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Noah4x4 says...

I am of the opinion that to be successful as a Head of a School like this is much more challenging than the majority of posts in business and/or professions attracting similar or even higher salaries. The academic requirements are certainly as onerous.

The task of dealing with politicians; regulators; local authorities; staff; parents and children in this modern era; where traditional disciplines have been abandoned;whilst health and safety has gone bonkers and where children can too easily false allegations to exact revenge upon the most conscientious teaching staff without fear of a penalty; must be more stressful than almost any other role in Britain.

I believe people do have to be realistic and not envious. Dedicated, quality people need proper payment. I do concur; (example) Nurses and others require more payment too but the solution is to pay them more; not to pay Head Teachers of the required calibre any less.
I am of the opinion that to be successful as a Head of a School like this is much more challenging than the majority of posts in business and/or professions attracting similar or even higher salaries. The academic requirements are certainly as onerous. The task of dealing with politicians; regulators; local authorities; staff; parents and children in this modern era; where traditional disciplines have been abandoned;whilst health and safety has gone bonkers and where children can too easily false allegations to exact revenge upon the most conscientious teaching staff without fear of a penalty; must be more stressful than almost any other role in Britain. I believe people do have to be realistic and not envious. Dedicated, quality people need proper payment. I do concur; (example) Nurses and others require more payment too but the solution is to pay them more; not to pay Head Teachers of the required calibre any less. Noah4x4

10:29pm Mon 17 Feb 14

southstand says...

wearebeingwatched wrote:
southstand wrote:
£125,00 for a state school head, no wonder the country sinks into another £100 billion or so debt every year, at some point in the future the uk taxes will be used just to service the interest on the trillions of debt and there will be no state schools or hospitals at all!. School head 13 weeks holiday, possible 30 years of gold plated pension absolutely criminal and don't compare to bankers they have played a large part in the chaos that is the uk now.
If you really think head's take 13 weeks holiday and only work 8.30 to 3.30, you really need to take your head of the sand. Head's typically work a lot longer hours than most of us and take no more holiday than the rest of us.

I know quite a few teachers socially, some just normal teachers, some senior managers and one a head and I can tell you they are all dedicated to educating the next generation and certainly put in more hours/effort than they standard school hours and term time. They all work late, well into the evening and then give their 'holiday time'. In my opinion worth every penny they get.

I certainly would not become one, even for double the salary of the head's and the senior teachers.
Firstly I never said anything about "8.30 to 3.30" I agree during term time they work longer hours but there is indeed 13weeks school holidays, secondly my sister and her husband were assistant headmistress and headmaster before they both retired early on their gold plated pensions as previously mentioned so I do know! and finally it may be your opinion that the new head deserves almost double that of an mp but it definitely isn't mine especially while the country sinks in debt
[quote][p][bold]wearebeingwatched[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southstand[/bold] wrote: £125,00 for a state school head, no wonder the country sinks into another £100 billion or so debt every year, at some point in the future the uk taxes will be used just to service the interest on the trillions of debt and there will be no state schools or hospitals at all!. School head 13 weeks holiday, possible 30 years of gold plated pension absolutely criminal and don't compare to bankers they have played a large part in the chaos that is the uk now.[/p][/quote]If you really think head's take 13 weeks holiday and only work 8.30 to 3.30, you really need to take your head of the sand. Head's typically work a lot longer hours than most of us and take no more holiday than the rest of us. I know quite a few teachers socially, some just normal teachers, some senior managers and one a head and I can tell you they are all dedicated to educating the next generation and certainly put in more hours/effort than they standard school hours and term time. They all work late, well into the evening and then give their 'holiday time'. In my opinion worth every penny they get. I certainly would not become one, even for double the salary of the head's and the senior teachers.[/p][/quote]Firstly I never said anything about "8.30 to 3.30" I agree during term time they work longer hours but there is indeed 13weeks school holidays, secondly my sister and her husband were assistant headmistress and headmaster before they both retired early on their gold plated pensions as previously mentioned so I do know! and finally it may be your opinion that the new head deserves almost double that of an mp but it definitely isn't mine especially while the country sinks in debt southstand

10:29pm Mon 17 Feb 14

southstand says...

wearebeingwatched wrote:
southstand wrote:
£125,00 for a state school head, no wonder the country sinks into another £100 billion or so debt every year, at some point in the future the uk taxes will be used just to service the interest on the trillions of debt and there will be no state schools or hospitals at all!. School head 13 weeks holiday, possible 30 years of gold plated pension absolutely criminal and don't compare to bankers they have played a large part in the chaos that is the uk now.
If you really think head's take 13 weeks holiday and only work 8.30 to 3.30, you really need to take your head of the sand. Head's typically work a lot longer hours than most of us and take no more holiday than the rest of us.

I know quite a few teachers socially, some just normal teachers, some senior managers and one a head and I can tell you they are all dedicated to educating the next generation and certainly put in more hours/effort than they standard school hours and term time. They all work late, well into the evening and then give their 'holiday time'. In my opinion worth every penny they get.

I certainly would not become one, even for double the salary of the head's and the senior teachers.
Firstly I never said anything about "8.30 to 3.30" I agree during term time they work longer hours but there is indeed 13weeks school holidays, secondly my sister and her husband were assistant headmistress and headmaster before they both retired early on their gold plated pensions as previously mentioned so I do know! and finally it may be your opinion that the new head deserves almost double that of an mp but it definitely isn't mine especially while the country sinks in debt
[quote][p][bold]wearebeingwatched[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southstand[/bold] wrote: £125,00 for a state school head, no wonder the country sinks into another £100 billion or so debt every year, at some point in the future the uk taxes will be used just to service the interest on the trillions of debt and there will be no state schools or hospitals at all!. School head 13 weeks holiday, possible 30 years of gold plated pension absolutely criminal and don't compare to bankers they have played a large part in the chaos that is the uk now.[/p][/quote]If you really think head's take 13 weeks holiday and only work 8.30 to 3.30, you really need to take your head of the sand. Head's typically work a lot longer hours than most of us and take no more holiday than the rest of us. I know quite a few teachers socially, some just normal teachers, some senior managers and one a head and I can tell you they are all dedicated to educating the next generation and certainly put in more hours/effort than they standard school hours and term time. They all work late, well into the evening and then give their 'holiday time'. In my opinion worth every penny they get. I certainly would not become one, even for double the salary of the head's and the senior teachers.[/p][/quote]Firstly I never said anything about "8.30 to 3.30" I agree during term time they work longer hours but there is indeed 13weeks school holidays, secondly my sister and her husband were assistant headmistress and headmaster before they both retired early on their gold plated pensions as previously mentioned so I do know! and finally it may be your opinion that the new head deserves almost double that of an mp but it definitely isn't mine especially while the country sinks in debt southstand

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