"The best side lost" says Dunne, after U's lose at Leyton Orient

Gazette: "The best side lost" says Dunne, after U's lose at Leyton Orient "The best side lost" says Dunne, after U's lose at Leyton Orient

Colchester United manager Joe Dunne said his side deserved at least a draw after they fell to a narrow defeat at Leyton Orient.

The U’s were beaten 2-1 in a cracking contest at Brisbane Road.

Former U’s player David Mooney gave the promotion-chasing O’s a first-half lead.

And although substitute Marcus Bean headed in an 80th-minute equaliser, Moses Odubajo struck the winner four minutes later to leave Colchester’s travelling support of nearly 800 supporters disappointed, as they made their way back up the A12.

Dunne said: “I think anyone who was at the game will have witnessed that the better team lost.

“I thought the very least that we deserved was a draw and we did all of the attacking and made their keeper work, whereas ours didn’t have to.

“Two switch-off moments have cost us but unfortunately, that’s what you get when you’re (playing a) top of the league (side).

“But overall, I’m very pleased with the performances of late.

“It’s got to turn, because we can’t keep playing the way we’re playing at the moment and not pick up wins or pick up points.”

“I thought that we were excellent.

“I’m very pleased with the performance and we’ll go onto the next one.”

“All of the stats pointed to an away victory but I don’t think Russell (Slade) will care about that, will he?

“He’s won the game and it’s a simple moment that’s cost us.

“It’s a ricochet that’s gone through someone’s legs and Odubajo (scored).

“But we have to keep going and there were some tremendous performances from us.”

For five pages of coverage of Colchester’s game at Leyton Orient, see Monday’s Gazette.

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12:25am Sun 2 Mar 14

BlueandWhiteBaz says...

Sorry Joe, that's a rubbish comment, domination for long periods won't win matches if you don't have players who can finish. Sadly this is not a new phenomenon as far as The U’s are concerned. Except for perhaps Sanchez Watt and perhaps Macaulay Bonne we have no player who has the right qualities to do this. Yes, we dominated but when Orient attacked they swept us away with real pace and economical on the ground passing. By comparison our attacking is slow and ponderous, allowing the opposition defence to easily mark up and snuff out any possible opportunities to score. Within 4 or 5 seconds, once Orient picked up possession in defence, they were getting their shot off at the other end, leaving our defence run ragged and open. That is the sort of football that wins games and domination of possession wins you nothing unless you have devastating finishers, which we don’t have. We have also been guilty, and it was again true in this game, of defensive lapses where we lose concentration and gift goals away. Orient have qualities in areas that really count, both in attack and in defence, and that is why they are in and around the top of the league. As for us, we are now well and truly in the relegation scrap and this time I’m not convinced we are good enough to survive.

For us, Ryan Dickson was easily our best player showing great qualities, and Jabo Ibehre was once again our honest work horse.
Sorry Joe, that's a rubbish comment, domination for long periods won't win matches if you don't have players who can finish. Sadly this is not a new phenomenon as far as The U’s are concerned. Except for perhaps Sanchez Watt and perhaps Macaulay Bonne we have no player who has the right qualities to do this. Yes, we dominated but when Orient attacked they swept us away with real pace and economical on the ground passing. By comparison our attacking is slow and ponderous, allowing the opposition defence to easily mark up and snuff out any possible opportunities to score. Within 4 or 5 seconds, once Orient picked up possession in defence, they were getting their shot off at the other end, leaving our defence run ragged and open. That is the sort of football that wins games and domination of possession wins you nothing unless you have devastating finishers, which we don’t have. We have also been guilty, and it was again true in this game, of defensive lapses where we lose concentration and gift goals away. Orient have qualities in areas that really count, both in attack and in defence, and that is why they are in and around the top of the league. As for us, we are now well and truly in the relegation scrap and this time I’m not convinced we are good enough to survive. For us, Ryan Dickson was easily our best player showing great qualities, and Jabo Ibehre was once again our honest work horse. BlueandWhiteBaz
  • Score: 22

9:12am Sun 2 Mar 14

WEWANTGOALS says...

Oh dear joe,another defeat,one point from a possible fifteen,and just out of the relegation zone by goal diffrence,ask yourself Joe what other football league side would offer you a managers job with that record,the answer to that Joe in case you dont know is no one,your just not good enough to manage at this level.Ok you have games in hand,but you actually have to be able to win to make them pay,and i just cant see with the side you have and the tatics you play how we are going to win.I have to agree with everything that blueandwhitebaz has to say which spares me having to write much more,Come on Col U give us fans something to cheer about with a win Tuesday night
Oh dear joe,another defeat,one point from a possible fifteen,and just out of the relegation zone by goal diffrence,ask yourself Joe what other football league side would offer you a managers job with that record,the answer to that Joe in case you dont know is no one,your just not good enough to manage at this level.Ok you have games in hand,but you actually have to be able to win to make them pay,and i just cant see with the side you have and the tatics you play how we are going to win.I have to agree with everything that blueandwhitebaz has to say which spares me having to write much more,Come on Col U give us fans something to cheer about with a win Tuesday night WEWANTGOALS
  • Score: 17

9:14am Sun 2 Mar 14

totallyfootball says...

He needs medication badly! Worst case of football delusion I have ever seen, do the decent thing and jack!
He needs medication badly! Worst case of football delusion I have ever seen, do the decent thing and jack! totallyfootball
  • Score: 13

9:42am Sun 2 Mar 14

crazy comments says...

BlueandWhiteBaz wrote:
Sorry Joe, that's a rubbish comment, domination for long periods won't win matches if you don't have players who can finish. Sadly this is not a new phenomenon as far as The U’s are concerned. Except for perhaps Sanchez Watt and perhaps Macaulay Bonne we have no player who has the right qualities to do this. Yes, we dominated but when Orient attacked they swept us away with real pace and economical on the ground passing. By comparison our attacking is slow and ponderous, allowing the opposition defence to easily mark up and snuff out any possible opportunities to score. Within 4 or 5 seconds, once Orient picked up possession in defence, they were getting their shot off at the other end, leaving our defence run ragged and open. That is the sort of football that wins games and domination of possession wins you nothing unless you have devastating finishers, which we don’t have. We have also been guilty, and it was again true in this game, of defensive lapses where we lose concentration and gift goals away. Orient have qualities in areas that really count, both in attack and in defence, and that is why they are in and around the top of the league. As for us, we are now well and truly in the relegation scrap and this time I’m not convinced we are good enough to survive.

For us, Ryan Dickson was easily our best player showing great qualities, and Jabo Ibehre was once again our honest work horse.
Your spot on BAZ. As I pointed out on an earlier post, I have seen Rotherham play on three separate occasions this season. If they play the same style of football away from home then expect volley of balls into our goal area on Tuesday night. A far different dimension to how orient play. They just push forwards relentless non stop with players that never stop running, more like Boothroyds tactics hitting balls first time but at a far faster tempo and super fit players..
They do leave big gaps at the back and this is where Sanchez Watt could expose them and be our match winner. We need 3 tall central defenders to conquer their arial threat. Our luck needs to change so get the tactics right Joe and we can win this game.
[quote][p][bold]BlueandWhiteBaz[/bold] wrote: Sorry Joe, that's a rubbish comment, domination for long periods won't win matches if you don't have players who can finish. Sadly this is not a new phenomenon as far as The U’s are concerned. Except for perhaps Sanchez Watt and perhaps Macaulay Bonne we have no player who has the right qualities to do this. Yes, we dominated but when Orient attacked they swept us away with real pace and economical on the ground passing. By comparison our attacking is slow and ponderous, allowing the opposition defence to easily mark up and snuff out any possible opportunities to score. Within 4 or 5 seconds, once Orient picked up possession in defence, they were getting their shot off at the other end, leaving our defence run ragged and open. That is the sort of football that wins games and domination of possession wins you nothing unless you have devastating finishers, which we don’t have. We have also been guilty, and it was again true in this game, of defensive lapses where we lose concentration and gift goals away. Orient have qualities in areas that really count, both in attack and in defence, and that is why they are in and around the top of the league. As for us, we are now well and truly in the relegation scrap and this time I’m not convinced we are good enough to survive. For us, Ryan Dickson was easily our best player showing great qualities, and Jabo Ibehre was once again our honest work horse.[/p][/quote]Your spot on BAZ. As I pointed out on an earlier post, I have seen Rotherham play on three separate occasions this season. If they play the same style of football away from home then expect volley of balls into our goal area on Tuesday night. A far different dimension to how orient play. They just push forwards relentless non stop with players that never stop running, more like Boothroyds tactics hitting balls first time but at a far faster tempo and super fit players.. They do leave big gaps at the back and this is where Sanchez Watt could expose them and be our match winner. We need 3 tall central defenders to conquer their arial threat. Our luck needs to change so get the tactics right Joe and we can win this game. crazy comments
  • Score: 8

10:36am Sun 2 Mar 14

Ozzie says...

Mr Dunne must be on some medication of some description - surely he can see that his tactics of playing from the back do not work with the level of players we have at the club and their poor judgements. That is what cost us. We do not communicate effectively in defence or in midfield. LIke Tuesday night, the team at times looked dispirited and down before they took to the pitch. What do you say to them before and at half time for them to show such negative body language? I am really concerned now as I have been all season, despite the renewed optimism we had around and shortly after Christmas. Play-offs? We were having a laugh. Mr Dunne, you have your work cut out now to avoid the drop. Once again, we are out of relegation on goal difference and ONE point from 15 is diabolical regardless of what league and level you play in! Other clubs would not have tolerated your tactics and lame excuses for defeats as long as Mr Cowling and his co-directors have. You are fortunate to work for a weak-willed, but loyal, sustained boss. If you overcome Rotherham on Tuesday I will become one of your most avid supporters as that would be a massive win, but unfortunately all of the effort shown and your comments to Neil Kelly on BBC Essex that you were 'delighted' with yesterday's performance just about sums it up. It is almost too late to make a change this season, but in all honesty, do we as a club want to sustain this form and style of ineffective football much longer? Up the U's!
Mr Dunne must be on some medication of some description - surely he can see that his tactics of playing from the back do not work with the level of players we have at the club and their poor judgements. That is what cost us. We do not communicate effectively in defence or in midfield. LIke Tuesday night, the team at times looked dispirited and down before they took to the pitch. What do you say to them before and at half time for them to show such negative body language? I am really concerned now as I have been all season, despite the renewed optimism we had around and shortly after Christmas. Play-offs? We were having a laugh. Mr Dunne, you have your work cut out now to avoid the drop. Once again, we are out of relegation on goal difference and ONE point from 15 is diabolical regardless of what league and level you play in! Other clubs would not have tolerated your tactics and lame excuses for defeats as long as Mr Cowling and his co-directors have. You are fortunate to work for a weak-willed, but loyal, sustained boss. If you overcome Rotherham on Tuesday I will become one of your most avid supporters as that would be a massive win, but unfortunately all of the effort shown and your comments to Neil Kelly on BBC Essex that you were 'delighted' with yesterday's performance just about sums it up. It is almost too late to make a change this season, but in all honesty, do we as a club want to sustain this form and style of ineffective football much longer? Up the U's! Ozzie
  • Score: 10

2:18pm Sun 2 Mar 14

stevedawson says...

What ever the delusions mr.dunne may or may not be under lets remember that the lads on the pitch are the only ones that can keep us from the very unwelcome div2.they need all the suport that the terraces can give them.so tues night lets have a lot noise from cheers and no jeers whatever happens.up the u's.
What ever the delusions mr.dunne may or may not be under lets remember that the lads on the pitch are the only ones that can keep us from the very unwelcome div2.they need all the suport that the terraces can give them.so tues night lets have a lot noise from cheers and no jeers whatever happens.up the u's. stevedawson
  • Score: -7

11:03pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Noah4x4 says...

I struggled to understand what some fans expect. In our last five home games; we hit FOUR goals against Stevenage without reply; playing on the deck (possession) football. We then lost by the odd goal against Crewe (1-2); a bit unlucky; again playing possession football. We then scored THREE against Gillingham without reply playing possession football.

Against these three weaker sides; there is hence no evidence of any lack of (home) goal scoring ability. In the first three home games after Xmas; we took SIX (from nine) vital points against ‘relegation’ candidates and added a + 6 positive goal difference. So surely the team HAS delivered where it might reasonably be expected during these first three (of five) recent home games?

Then; we lost by an odd goal versus Preston and missed a penalty (1-2). We perhaps deserved a bit more from this game; but were unlucky (a hint of offside in their first goal)? We then lost by an odd goal (penalty) against the Blades (0-1). We didn’t deserve anything from that; but we nearly stole a point. But Preston and Sheffield United are two of THE current ‘form’ sides. So did we really expect to win against either?

Keeping possession is (IMHO) a better tactic against weak or strong teams rather than being overly adventurous and leaking goals. When we have pressed too hard; that is where the wheels have most often come off and we have been punished. Opponents can’t score when WE have the ball; and our goal difference is a far greater component of our likely fortunes than I believe most perceive. Keeping them out is just as vital we as scoring them

Then whilst away; over this same post Xmas period; we have taken valuable gritty battling points at Swindon and MK Dons; and we also beaten Carlisle; scoring FOUR; once again playing on the deck possession football, but unfortunately we lost to high flying Port Vale and Orient (unluckily). Yes; we might not have won in the last five games; but consider who we have played in that period. Almost all are against top sides; and in the one that wasn’t; we scored four AWAY.

In summary; we have been racking up some high scores against those we MIGHT expect to beat. But what do some U’s fans expect when we don’t have the financial resources of (say) Wolves? We are admittedly now just three points from the relegation zone; but also three points from top half of the table. With this division so tight; our minus four goal difference compared to the double digit negatives of those most threatened with the drop (three are minus 19 or worse) is material. Then, of course, we do have three games in hand over our peers.

Now having average 3.66 goals in our last three wins; consider our home run -in; much of this against weaker sides (on current form) Bradford; Shrewsbury; Bristol City; Tranmere; Oldham. Yes; those; we might expect to win; but let’s keep expectations manageable. However; if we play the quality possession football that we played on Saturday; I expect some goal fests.
I struggled to understand what some fans expect. In our last five home games; we hit FOUR goals against Stevenage without reply; playing on the deck (possession) football. We then lost by the odd goal against Crewe (1-2); a bit unlucky; again playing possession football. We then scored THREE against Gillingham without reply playing possession football. Against these three weaker sides; there is hence no evidence of any lack of (home) goal scoring ability. In the first three home games after Xmas; we took SIX (from nine) vital points against ‘relegation’ candidates and added a + 6 positive goal difference. So surely the team HAS delivered where it might reasonably be expected during these first three (of five) recent home games? Then; we lost by an odd goal versus Preston and missed a penalty (1-2). We perhaps deserved a bit more from this game; but were unlucky (a hint of offside in their first goal)? We then lost by an odd goal (penalty) against the Blades (0-1). We didn’t deserve anything from that; but we nearly stole a point. But Preston and Sheffield United are two of THE current ‘form’ sides. So did we really expect to win against either? Keeping possession is (IMHO) a better tactic against weak or strong teams rather than being overly adventurous and leaking goals. When we have pressed too hard; that is where the wheels have most often come off and we have been punished. Opponents can’t score when WE have the ball; and our goal difference is a far greater component of our likely fortunes than I believe most perceive. Keeping them out is just as vital we as scoring them Then whilst away; over this same post Xmas period; we have taken valuable gritty battling points at Swindon and MK Dons; and we also beaten Carlisle; scoring FOUR; once again playing on the deck possession football, but unfortunately we lost to high flying Port Vale and Orient (unluckily). Yes; we might not have won in the last five games; but consider who we have played in that period. Almost all are against top sides; and in the one that wasn’t; we scored four AWAY. In summary; we have been racking up some high scores against those we MIGHT expect to beat. But what do some U’s fans expect when we don’t have the financial resources of (say) Wolves? We are admittedly now just three points from the relegation zone; but also three points from top half of the table. With this division so tight; our minus four goal difference compared to the double digit negatives of those most threatened with the drop (three are minus 19 or worse) is material. Then, of course, we do have three games in hand over our peers. Now having average 3.66 goals in our last three wins; consider our home run -in; much of this against weaker sides (on current form) Bradford; Shrewsbury; Bristol City; Tranmere; Oldham. Yes; those; we might expect to win; but let’s keep expectations manageable. However; if we play the quality possession football that we played on Saturday; I expect some goal fests. Noah4x4
  • Score: 2

11:30pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Noah4x4 says...

Correction; I meant to say "three places" above the relegation zone (not three points); but three points do separate us from the top half of the table and goal difference is a huge factor.

However we do have a massive 21 goal difference advantage over Crewe and three games in hand. That goal difference has as much to do with us keeping clean sheets and keeping possession as goals scored. If our opponents DON'T have the ball; they can't score.
Correction; I meant to say "three places" above the relegation zone (not three points); but three points do separate us from the top half of the table and goal difference is a huge factor. However we do have a massive 21 goal difference advantage over Crewe and three games in hand. That goal difference has as much to do with us keeping clean sheets and keeping possession as goals scored. If our opponents DON'T have the ball; they can't score. Noah4x4
  • Score: -1

8:36am Mon 3 Mar 14

crazy comments says...

Noah4x4 wrote:
Correction; I meant to say "three places" above the relegation zone (not three points); but three points do separate us from the top half of the table and goal difference is a huge factor.

However we do have a massive 21 goal difference advantage over Crewe and three games in hand. That goal difference has as much to do with us keeping clean sheets and keeping possession as goals scored. If our opponents DON'T have the ball; they can't score.
If I had to continually watch possession football then I would stay away from going to watch football entirely. Its boring, much like we keep hearing the continued lame excuses from Joe Dune. He is the person that's responsible for tactics, no one else I hope not to see us get steamrolled tomorrow,
[quote][p][bold]Noah4x4[/bold] wrote: Correction; I meant to say "three places" above the relegation zone (not three points); but three points do separate us from the top half of the table and goal difference is a huge factor. However we do have a massive 21 goal difference advantage over Crewe and three games in hand. That goal difference has as much to do with us keeping clean sheets and keeping possession as goals scored. If our opponents DON'T have the ball; they can't score.[/p][/quote]If I had to continually watch possession football then I would stay away from going to watch football entirely. Its boring, much like we keep hearing the continued lame excuses from Joe Dune. He is the person that's responsible for tactics, no one else I hope not to see us get steamrolled tomorrow, crazy comments
  • Score: 5

10:57am Mon 3 Mar 14

BlueandWhiteBaz says...

Noah, you are also overlooking the fact that the teams below us have been getting much better results than us recently and it will probably be points that count not goal difference.
Noah, you are also overlooking the fact that the teams below us have been getting much better results than us recently and it will probably be points that count not goal difference. BlueandWhiteBaz
  • Score: 3

11:37am Mon 3 Mar 14

Noah4x4 says...

BlueandWhiteBaz wrote:
Noah, you are also overlooking the fact that the teams below us have been getting much better results than us recently and it will probably be points that count not goal difference.
True Baz; but look at who they (and we) have recently been playing against. This is simply a quirk of the 2013-1 fixture computer....

Our HOME run against the weaker mid table teams is yet to come. If you consider the bottom half of the table; we still have to play six of them at home and two away. So given that merely three points separate 13th from the drop zone; that means 9 of our 15 remaining fixtures are against teams that are also potentially relegation candidates (with the majority at home). Hence potentially beatable. We also have three game in hand; and if you look at this objectively they might be considered as the extra three within these nine.

We also must play ALL FIVE of those below us too...
Bristol City Home
Crewe Away
Shrewsbury Home
Stevenage away
Notts County away.

It's never going to be easy; but we are far better placed than many perceive. As regards away fixtures where we might expect a trashing; we face only Wolves having played(and taken points of the other form teams). Confidence is going to be an important facet.

On this day last year we had 12 fewer points; a shocking goal difference; merely 12 games left and we looked doomed. his season, even the TV Pundits (always negative towards the U's) don't see us going down; so let's have a bit more confidence and vocally get behind the team.
[quote][p][bold]BlueandWhiteBaz[/bold] wrote: Noah, you are also overlooking the fact that the teams below us have been getting much better results than us recently and it will probably be points that count not goal difference.[/p][/quote]True Baz; but look at who they (and we) have recently been playing against. This is simply a quirk of the 2013-1 fixture computer.... Our HOME run against the weaker mid table teams is yet to come. If you consider the bottom half of the table; we still have to play six of them at home and two away. So given that merely three points separate 13th from the drop zone; that means 9 of our 15 remaining fixtures are against teams that are also potentially relegation candidates (with the majority at home). Hence potentially beatable. We also have three game in hand; and if you look at this objectively they might be considered as the extra three within these nine. We also must play ALL FIVE of those below us too... Bristol City Home Crewe Away Shrewsbury Home Stevenage away Notts County away. It's never going to be easy; but we are far better placed than many perceive. As regards away fixtures where we might expect a trashing; we face only Wolves having played(and taken points of the other form teams). Confidence is going to be an important facet. On this day last year we had 12 fewer points; a shocking goal difference; merely 12 games left and we looked doomed. his season, even the TV Pundits (always negative towards the U's) don't see us going down; so let's have a bit more confidence and vocally get behind the team. Noah4x4
  • Score: 0

8:12pm Mon 3 Mar 14

brig 1 says...

Ironic.Could be changing places with Scunthorpe, only we won't be coming straight back up. Get an impact manager in . At least till the end of the season.
Ironic.Could be changing places with Scunthorpe, only we won't be coming straight back up. Get an impact manager in . At least till the end of the season. brig 1
  • Score: 1

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