Travellers move on to Clacton timber yard (From Gazette)

Try 8 or 9 caravansand some very new vans, loories and cars. They picked the lock as the site has been secure and visited by a security company on a regular basis.
Generators going all night , music blaring and our powers that be sit back and twiddle ther blasted thumbs and leave the residents and local shopkeepers to provide security.
If you need more up to date and correct news on this matter the look at Clacton Residents Voice on Facebook, they seem to know more about what is going on than a local councillor who should be demanding action on this and a paper that's supposed to report on local matter but can't be bothered to get out of their Far Away office and actually do some footwork.

Lock the gates and put a skip full of bricks in the way! They entered illegally!

There's a very interesting conversation going on here
http://www.facebook.
com/ClactonResidents
Voice

Come and have your say...

totally agree with you myrtle,

Not surprised Travellers have moved onto an abandoned yard, who would want to be out on the roads in this weather? And Tendring is one of the few councils which haven't yet built a Travellers Site as they agreed.

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Have to agree with Essex Gurl - why have Tendring not provided a site for travellers?

The RSS indicated that there is a need for such a site in Tendring but our useless Councillors as usual do nothing.

I for one wouldn't want my council tax to fund such a site - if they want somewhere to live they should buy some land with their own money, not the states!

The reason why they pick the locks is so they can claim they 'found' it unlocked.
The site has not been abandoned it has been going through the planning application process, the notice on the gate was displayed to that effect.
As for the Bleeding Heart Brigade, how about you open up your gardens to the poor travellers in this cold weather?.
I am sure you will appreciate being kept awake all night by a dozen generaters, vans in and out all night, dogs barking, music blaring, the kids will enjoy breaking in your shed ( like they have on this site) and connecting your electric up.
Let's see you get up bright eyed and bushy tailed the next morning to go to work and have the pleasure of paying tax on your legitamate earnings and cheerfully pay your council tax to clear up after they have gone and be happy about it.

Myrtle wrote:
The reason why they pick the locks is so they can claim they 'found' it unlocked.
The site has not been abandoned it has been going through the planning application process, the notice on the gate was displayed to that effect.
As for the Bleeding Heart Brigade, how about you open up your gardens to the poor travellers in this cold weather?.
I am sure you will appreciate being kept awake all night by a dozen generaters, vans in and out all night, dogs barking, music blaring, the kids will enjoy breaking in your shed ( like they have on this site) and connecting your electric up.
Let's see you get up bright eyed and bushy tailed the next morning to go to work and have the pleasure of paying tax on your legitamate earnings and cheerfully pay your council tax to clear up after they have gone and be happy about it.

Hi Myrtle, can I quote your comment on our fanpage CRV, or maybe if you have a FB account, pop over, and post it yourself...really interesting subject...

Feel free to quote away. Have found your page, very informative.

Ritchie_Hicks wrote:
I for one wouldn't want my council tax to fund such a site - if they want somewhere to live they should buy some land with their own money, not the states!

If they did buy land with their own money, what would happen? They would be refused planning permission and evicted once they have settled in with their families.

TheJester wrote:

Ritchie_Hicks wrote:
I for one wouldn't want my council tax to fund such a site - if they want somewhere to live they should buy some land with their own money, not the states!

If they did buy land with their own money, what would happen? They would be refused planning permission and evicted once they have settled in with their families.

Only if they build on it. The council won't evict them for having mobile units on a field, which is surely what travellers live in?

Build a house, illegally, and live in it for years and the term "traveller" gets very much diluted!

for traveler read parasite.

gypsy blood wrote:

Ritchie_Hicks wrote:

TheJester wrote:

Ritchie_Hicks wrote:
I for one wouldn't want my council tax to fund such a site - if they want somewhere to live they should buy some land with their own money, not the states!

If they did buy land with their own money, what would happen? They would be refused planning permission and evicted once they have settled in with their families.

Only if they build on it. The council won't evict them for having mobile units on a field, which is surely what travellers live in?

Build a house, illegally, and live in it for years and the term "traveller" gets very much diluted!

gypsy curse for you to

OoooooooOOooooo!

Do we not have enough "Gypsy" families living in this area already? Just look at the rubbish block paved driveways that have been "Laid" in this area.More complaints than Argos after Christmas and they are still ripping people off.They are working in this area without paying any income tax or stamp, I say give them a permanent address and get them to legally work from it paying their taxes.I bet they don't stay long, how else do you think that they drive around in flash cars, have big house "Back home!" and have "Big Weddings!"

Don't evict them just torch al their caravans and illegal vehicles. Give them a message that they are not wanted and we don't tolerate law breakers. They broke the law as soon as they broke into the premises.

Mr Gypsy Blood! there are plenty of roads and driveways in Mr Jaywick's Brooklands that need attention, there is also plenty of land for all you relatives and grazing for your horses.I am sure the people of Clacton wouldn't mind you staying there for a few erm, years?? ;-)

Whether this caravan group are "gypsies", "travellers", "coloureds", "chinese", "polish" ,"yellow" blah, blah, it does not really matter.....It's about treating these people the same as ANY other citizen, and that means insisting they obey both the planning and criminal laws of our country.
Cursing everyone that has an alternate opinion is childish and pathetic, yes we can all throw mud at each other and curse each other, at the end of the day, us Clacton residents DO NOT want ILLEGAL caravan sites and their associated activities, and we do not want our tax budgets used up on this "anti social" camp site, there are much better things that clacton needs....The "campers" did break in, whether it be "lock picked" or whatever, there was a notice on the gate, therefore they have broken the law, and should be dealt with in the necessary manner...Either by the Council, or by Essex Police....

Ha Ha at that and you do have a point LOL.
One question GB, that I have been waiting to ask one of you, so please do no take this as pointing at you.
Why do some of your men set out to rob, steal and lie to "Hosys" and do sub standard work and evade taxes!

Gypsy Blood, instead of going on about how clean you are, and how dirty we are, blah, blah and throwing threats and curses, can you answer this question please.....

Are you an actual member of the "campers" that have arrived at the builders yard in Oxford Road ? if so.....

When was the "change of use" submitted to Tendring council for residential use ?
It is nowhere to be seen on application, and planning concerned...just search the tendring site for this doc...

APPLICATION NO: 11/01352/FUL

Or the full set of docs here...
http://idox.tendring
dc.gov.uk/online-app
lications/applicatio
nDetails.do?activeTa
b=documents&keyVal=L
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I already know the answers...I want to see if you still insist that you are not breaking the law (that is, if you actually are one of the "campers" and not a troller ! )

Best Regards

Clacton Residents Voice

gypsy blood wrote:
Ah yes, the gypsy thing. He may not exactly be a travelling man these days but titan Fury will tell you it's the gypsy in him that makes him what he is, coming from a bloodline of fighting Furys going back to the 19th century, a descendant of bareknuckle boxers who settled differences in fields and fairground booths. He is distantly related to the renowned cobbles scrapper Bartley Gorman, and his 48-year-old father, known as Gypsy John, also did a fair bit of bareknuckle bashing before becoming a British heavyweight contender, losing a 1991 eliminator to Henry Akinwande. You could say Tyson Fury was born to be a fighter. He was certainly christened one by a father whose idol was Iron Mike.

Fury Jnr acknowledges that the bareknuckle stuff still goes on but insists he has never wanted any part of it. "I stay away from all that. I don't go to travellers' fairs and horse-racing dos. Or anywhere that people get drunk and challenge me to a fight.

"Me being a boxer, they get a few beers inside them and they think they're Mike Tyson and Muhammad Ali rolled into one and start brawling. I'd get me licence taken off me if I got involved. I'm not a troublesome person. I've never had a fight outside the ring in me life."

While "traveller" might be something of a misnomer as he has lived on permanent sites since childhood – Fury now has his own spacious house in Styal, an upmarket Cheshire village and the manor of many a millionaire footballer – he remains intensely loyal to his Romany roots. "I'm proud of what I am," he says. "I'll tell you what makes a traveller: you're born one like you're born black. To me it is irrelevant whether I live in a house, a caravan or a tent."

He hasn't lived in a caravan for years but he does occasionally sleep in one near his training base in Morecambe, Lancashire, while preparing for fights. His next is a defence of his Commonwealth title against Neven Pajkic, a tough, 34-year-old Bosnian-born Canadian – like Fury, unbeaten in 16 fights – at EventCity in Manchester's Trafford Centre on Saturday week.

"I like the feel of being a gypsy," he says. "The traveller background gives you that ultimate fighting steel, the determination and will to win, to dig deep. There's no loser in me. As a traveller you never regret anything. You do what you have to do and move on. No ifs, buts or whys."

I ask if, like other minority groups, he has encountered much prejudice because of his background. "Oh yes, I get it every day," he says. "'You gypsy ****, you fat gypo.' All sorts of stuff. It's mainly the Facebook warriors. I know I could savage them like a pit bull if I wanted but I don't because I know every time I win it hurts them more inside."

So what did he feel about the Dale Farm evictions? He shrugs. "To be honest it was just another drip of water off the duck's back. They are going to get this sort of thing for ever. Travellers will be discriminated against for the next thousand years. Nothing will change. It's the world we live in."

Fury is a married father of two. He had a gypsy wedding – but not a big fat one. He likes to live quietly and, as Clifford says, seems a decent lad, though he probably knows a few who aren't. His father is serving a lengthy jail term for causing a man, a former friend, to lose his eye after a fight at a car auction. "I'm gutted for him but the law's the law and he pleaded guilty. The man came there for a fight and he got one but he hit me dad first.

"I visit him three or four times a month. It's hard seeing him in there but I'm hoping any success I have will help him get through it 'cos it was me dad who made me what I am. I was born and bred to be a fighter."

The Furys are a close-knit family but that doesn't always work in boxing. Fury has acquired a new Canadian trainer, Chris Johnson, after what he says was "a falling out" with his uncle Hughie, an ex-fighter who had previously looked after him.

But there is stability at home with his wife Paris, daughter Venezuela (two) and one-month-old son, Prince John James. Paris is also from travelling stock but Fury insists he was free to marry outside the community had he wished. Mind you, his views on women would hardly be endorsed by feminists. He says of Paris: "She's nice-looking and a nice person. She does a lot of housework and cleaning and cooks for me five times a day. She looks after me really well. A woman's a woman and she's there to be loved and cook some food and have some kids, not to get involved in men's business. I know your general public woman wouldn't put up with it because she would want to be involved. She'd want a pair of balls. We don't agree with that."

So no New Man, nor a material one. "Being famous or having a few quid doesn't bother me As long as there's food in the cupboard I'm happy. Money isn't my god. God is."

He became a born-again Christian five years ago. Another uncle, Ernest, is a pastor in Congleton. "I pray every night for forgiveness, for love and for knowledge, and that the world will become a better place. I also ask God to help me fulfil my potential."

Will that be the world heavyweight title? The Gypsy King is now ranked ninth in succession and though the Klitschkos beckon, Fury says they can wait. "If and when the fight makes sense, I'm up for it. At the moment it only makes sense for them."

He adds a sobering thought: "Every time I walk into that ring I know it's life or death. Him or me. That's what turns me on about boxing. I know that things could go wrong at any time. People die in the ring. If anything ever happens to me, I'm happy I have found God."

Nice copy and paste from the Independent website you did there Troll.

The giveway being that your own comments are laced with spelling mistakes.

Glad to see the "troller" has been reported, and I can get back on this page, after reading vast amounts of Guff online concerning the "travellers" issue, I am now on the fence.......is it todays media that keep mis informing the general public, or is it the powers...because when these "travellers" are moved on, where are they actually gonna go..I have the view that the council SHOULD provide sites for temp accommodation, and the "travellers" should pay rent for the privilege of staying on these legal sites, as you would if you need a council house.
I also am not happy with Council funding these sites, unless they reclaim funds back through renting to "tennants", but I am even unhappier when I see 7 million quid spent on removing them, only to be parked illegally down the road..So in my eyes, COUNCIL, sort out a legal site for "travellers" and charge them rent/taxes as a council tennant, fair is fair for all concerned.....we pay taxes, "travellers" then pay taxes, and council gets rent......

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Yes they have gone......

During the London riots last summer Mayor Johnson praised the "community spitrit" of Turkish shopkeepers in Stoke Newington who were fighting off rioters with baseball bats.

Perhaps some "community spirit" could encourgage the so-called 'Travellers' to travel back to Eire where most own property, many with portfolios worth millions of Euros.