Racism affects children as young as five (From Gazette)

Research is to see what everybody else has seen, and to think what nobody else has thought

People are not born racists ... racism is taught - usually from parent to child!

As we have a racist Govt and racist MPs which allows a racist press, police and public organisations is it any surprise that 5 yr olds are racists? Yet everyone denies being a racist. So who is fooling who?

jacklumber1 wrote:
As we have a racist Govt and racist MPs which allows a racist press, police and public organisations is it any surprise that 5 yr olds are racists? Yet everyone denies being a racist. So who is fooling who?

think you should go on a fact finding mission up to the midlands my friend!
take a look at some of there elected MP`s, elected by the people who live in there constiuencies.
Start with Luton,
and work upwards.

"eyes open wide"

Bwanna my friend I have been up north and lived there. As I have lived overseas in the middle and far east.
I am completely aware of MPs being elected - who and where.
The report is about racism in 5 yr olds. Have you just demonstrated the racism exists in the older population thus proving the ISER survey is and is being passed down is correct?
The comments is made above that 5 yr olds learn from the older generatio. Which seems to be true doesn't it!

Bwanna you should see Brits abroad how the don't fit in- but try to export 'little England' wherever they go - same as the Scots and Welsh or Irish.
When I go overseas, which I do a lot, I am English - thats a fact. But its not an excuse to look down on other peoples way of life and be racist.
I have seen / worked in situations where we Brits just would not survive - we are too spoilt - and the RAJ is now finished!

I watched a tv programme on Paul Simons involvement with south africans during there apartaid period.
the ANC were doing there best to stop any south african musicians from playing with Paul Simon.

Its a long story, but it seems that even after world wide acclaim at the time of prior and after Nelson Mandelas release ( long time ago now)
the South Africans have only recently agreed the mixed cultures in music were a good thing, and said sorry for there stance for all them long years..

So, your talk of RAJ
was that in reverse....

must admit though, not one of the now elderly black south african musicians wears a hoody top nor have most of there heads covered.
It seems only city centre residents do!

The music though,
was spellbindingly good!

What a can of worms! It is natural to be racist. I am a racist but I teach myself to be tolerant and to respect others and to embrace their ways, where my faith allows it. I simply do not like the way some immigrants refuse to integrate with us yet are happy to accept the benefits that we offer to them. I assume that they must be racists too.

Bwanna I am speaking from years of personnal experience in the UK and overseas where I have had to live and work cheek by jowl with people of all races - and had to be responsible for them on a daily basis - their work enviroment their accomodation and conditions. On the Arabian oil fields when you are incharge you carry the can for everything screw up you can end in jail.I had guys I was responsible for of all races religeons and cultures whose job it was to keep the oil rigs supplied to get the oil to sustain the wests life styles. Racism was not a part of the job it just couldn't be. Anyone racist did not last one week. We had one aim to keep the oil and petro dollars flowing. China and India are becoming the big producers China has big bucks invested in the UK like Felixstowe docks - why because we in the UK haven't kept pace with whats happening in a global world. Todays youth have no idea what they are facing in future years. So Britain has to learn or die because we are now being out classed!
Sdapeze Brits overseas form themselves into their own groups - from Saudi to Thailand you will find the George & Dragon. A mate of mine has one in Bangkok.
Immigrants come into the UK they feel the resentment so what do they do- they get togther because they feel comfortable with their own kind!
Brits do the same overseas no difference!

Bwannasinpajammas wrote:
jacklumber,
your:-
"The comments is made above that 5 yr olds learn from the older generatio. Which seems to be true doesn't it!”

I am of the age group that watched an Indian playing a white man,
having a go at them "bloody ****",
each week on the telly,
in a well watched series.
but when one of them bloody ****
(Alfs words - not mine)
played alongside the "Indian" whiteman Alf, it drew more laughs than normal.

We now have a new to laugh at telly series being Indians over acting
in citizen Khan,
playing Indians living in the Midlands.

Should I watch it and laugh along,
or refuse to watch it because its racist!

then,
"I have seen / worked in situations where we Brits just would not survive - we are too spoilt - and the RAJ is now finished!”
do you "really" think your the only person brought up in believing that not everything is delivered to our front doors fresh from tescos conveyer belt?
Dont be so foolish my friend,
as to "believe" everything that is written in surveys or others lifetime experiances is correct and true.
Pat yourself on the back if you must, but dont lookdown or sneer at those whom you know nothing of,
for that is either Ignorant,
or racist also.

When I came onto the Gazette website and saw a total of twelve comments for this story, I had a feeling on reading them I'd find the world a scary place. Alas (even if this is something of a contradiction in terms), I was not disappointed.

Bwanna clearly lives in absolute fantasy world. There has never been a TV show with an Indian portraying a white racist, it only exists in Bwann'a head. There was though a brilliant programme that starred the Jewish Warren Mitchell, even if it rather confused the stupid. Mitchell has often recalled the time at a Spurs game, when a Bwanna type approached him and said;
'Love the programme Alf, the way you give it to all those immigrants.'
Mitchell responded angrily;
'We're actually taking the p*ss out of f*cking idiots like you!'

It is pretty obvious where the four year old gets his racism from, passed down from grandfather, probably to father, and then onto grandson (if not directly grandfather to grandson). What on earth is so funny about wearing head covering anyway? There are all sorts of very practical reasons for wearing head covering, not merely one of fashion. Compare that to the classic western attire of the tie, which is a completely superfluous item of clothing. So what should we really be laughing at?

Sdapeze wrote:
What a can of worms! It is natural to be racist. I am a racist but I teach myself to be tolerant and to respect others and to embrace their ways, where my faith allows it. I simply do not like the way some immigrants refuse to integrate with us yet are happy to accept the benefits that we offer to them. I assume that they must be racists too.

How the hell is it 'natural' to be racist?! There is nothing 'natural' about it, nor race itself. Race is merely a social construction.

I can only guess you don't follow the Bible completely down the line. While in the main I'd say that's a good thing, on the issue of race, it's ironically a bit of a pity. The idea of just one race, all descending from Adam and Eve, was the dominant idea among western civilisation, and beyond, until comparatively very recently. The idea was only binned to justify the slave trade, as how could treating Africans be justified before the word of god? Simple, you decide Africans are a separate race, and from there we ended up with all the pseudo science of eugenics, and eventually the Nazis.

Positive Addition wrote:
"ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!"

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsi

xmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

And here we come to the scariest comment of all. Have a look at the history books, sunshine. Africa's problems are all ones created by a history of western imperialism, from slavery and empire onwards. And while colonies might not exist, Africa is still a continent exploited ruthlessly by the west. Have a look at that mining dispute in South Africa. That company exploiting Africa's mineral wealth, and paying its shanty town workers peanuts. Surprise, surprise, it's a British one.

While this imbalance remains, it's hardly surprising people want to leave a country being exploited, to live in a country doing the exploiting, because that's where you'll find a much better standard of living.

You go well beyond the stupidity of Bwanna, and the pig-ignorance of Sdapeze. So yes, it's not surprising you get called a Nazi. You are clearly a very nasty, unpleasant, twisted, moron.

Bwanna why do Englishmen wear a shirt and trousers - or a Scotsman the kilt or any race its own costume? Isn't it because its traditional in the country they live in? So a man wears a hoodie well among the young today I see many hoodys so whats so strange! Its a form of dress some like.
Remember the old saying - 'only mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the mid-day sun'. Well its true and covering your body from the sun avoids burning and skin cancers - so its more pragmatic than racist isn't it?
Why do you title yourself Bwanna is that some sort of ego trip? Shouldn't you just be a big Pyjamma?

I was informed by my manager that if I was too apply for promotion then I would be unnsuccessful if an applicant from an ethnic minority with equal skills (or even adequate skills) also applied, apparently this is called positive discrimination. As it has been correctly pointed out, people are not born racist. However, I can understand how attitudes are moulded by parents, particularly if the parents themselves have experienced discrimination.

Positive Addition wrote:
"ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!"

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsi

xmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

You really need to get out more. What kind of absolute nonsense is this? Do you seriously believe this, or is it just a wind-up?

romantic unfortunately it reflects a large proportion of the British electorate!
An island race with island minds who just cannot understand we all came out of Africa walking on our new found legs!
The legs developed but many minds stayed extremely primative!

I was expecting some odd comments going into this article, but wow, some of you biggots are terrifyingly close minded and naive.

"Black men wear hoodies for one reason only,and thats not to Integrate is it!"

What's your implication here? A lot of people from all different races where hoodies. Some of them cause trouble, most of them do not.

"It is natural to be racist."
No it isn't.

"Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white."
Funny, I don't feel like I'm being targeted against when integration happens, quite the opposite in fact.

jacklumber1 wrote:
romantic unfortunately it reflects a large proportion of the British electorate!
An island race with island minds who just cannot understand we all came out of Africa walking on our new found legs!
The legs developed but many minds stayed extremely primative!

Jack, I fear you´re probably right. There is no hope of logical reasoning with these bigoted keyboard heroes. If they cannot see past the colour of somebody´s skin, there is little hope that they will change their minds.

romantic & wormshero I agree we can only try and educate the ignorant and try to get them to understand all people are really just human beings. But if you treat some like 'enemies' don't be surprised if the then start to act like enemies.

Pyjammas well you have just told the world exactly what you are haven't you!

Arthur Fonzarelli wrote:
I was informed by my manager that if I was too apply for promotion then I would be unnsuccessful if an applicant from an ethnic minority with equal skills (or even adequate skills) also applied, apparently this is called positive discrimination. As it has been correctly pointed out, people are not born racist. However, I can understand how attitudes are moulded by parents, particularly if the parents themselves have experienced discrimination.

So-called 'positive' discrimination is justified on the basis that there is so much 'negative' discrimination about. And of course there is. People from ethnic minorities are a lot less likely to get good jobs, and are far more likely to be unemployed, homeless, living in poverty, stopped by the police, or to be found dead in a police cell. The research in this article confirms this.

However, discrimination is discrimination, and can only ever be negative. When so-called 'positive' discrimination occurs, it will be picked up by the Daily Mail et al, and used to hide the real facts about racist discrimination. Education is the key, not the sort of self-defeating short cuts you describe.

Anyway, I'm not 100% sure, but I can't help but wonder what you talk about in your work place, if true, is actually illegal.

jacklumber1 wrote:
Pyjammas well you have just told the world exactly what you are haven't you!

I'm guessing Bwanna's had a comment removed? Considering what's been allowed on here, including what was basically a call for genocide (talk of a 'final solution' can only be that), it really must have been pretty bad!

jacklumber1 wrote:
Pyjammas well you have just told the world exactly what you are haven't you!

Eh?

6079 Smith W wrote:

jacklumber1 wrote: Pyjammas well you have just told the world exactly what you are haven't you!

I'm guessing Bwanna's had a comment removed? Considering what's been allowed on here, including what was basically a call for genocide (talk of a 'final solution' can only be that), it really must have been pretty bad!

not at all, the subs @ gazette dont like my comments on anything normally,
so quick name changes go hand in hand with the daily cat & mouse games "they" play.
so, whose name shall I adulterate next smithy, yours?
must say, your standing of me is pretty "**** poor"
now, that saying "**** poor"
do you know its real meaning smithy?
its not berating anyone nor accusing anyone just an old way back saying of ones position.
So, infact, as I`m not "**** poor"
why would I bring the saying into the comments?
Just to show that talk like yours is cheap, with its assumptions being so far wrong, its all "pete Tong"

Very amusing tho`
ldo you ike to be thought of nasty nasty things by nasty minded people also smithy,
who write nasty minded assumptions,
but are complete fools for making them assumptions...eh smithy :)


but then smithy, you HAVE lost the plot, as Bwanna and bwannasinpayammas are 2 seperate Individuals... :)

lol....lol.....
have a nice day,
we have time to waste on you my lost friend.

Look, it was pretty obvious it was the working-class Tory from Jaywick, whatever user name you happen to be using. Please note, while many others have given up on you: 'There is no hope of logical reasoning with these bigoted keyboard heroes', because I'm actually a very patient person, I'm still trying to reason with you..

6079 Smith - you can't reason with a donkey it hasn't the brains you either offer it a carrot or wack it with a stick! Try a kick up the backside!

jacklumber1 wrote:
6079 Smith - you can't reason with a donkey it hasn't the brains you either offer it a carrot or wack it with a stick! Try a kick up the backside!

keep talking nobby,
because your dialoge is far from offensive,
but borders on the realms of a lunatics rants when both you and your fellow in ethnics, join hands in berating anyone who agrees neither with your factional ideoligy,
or just plain displeases you.
Donkey Indeed..lol.. :)
we see your thoughts here though,
all of us beasts of burden except those like yourselves who fly sky high whiter than white..sic!

for christs sake, dont let go of the tether, or you`ll both see the world from new hights..
:)
made me smile boys,
made me smile ..again..

laughing at your ""so much, I forgot your
"I'm guessing Bwanna's had a comment removed?"

explain your befuddled ramblings again smithy,
as for the heck of me, it dont seem to cross the boundery into Tendring.
well, one does expect some plain working class labourite rubbish as you are smithy, to not make sence once out of its comfort zone I imagine.
eh me old luvey.. :)

deepest appoligies twins of ethnic redemption, but yet another comment I must question.
smithy me old luvey,
or your hand holding partner `ol jacky boy..
" it was pretty obvious it was the working-class Tory from Jaywick"
SHOCKED boys, shocked here!
how dare you call me working class you ****/sorry, donkeys rear end..
I`m proudly retired,
I`ve paid into "my" years of working enough to do the decent thing,
and gave my job to someone 30 odd years my junior,
must have been about your age luvey`s..
(i just hope you not still under 30 smithy,
but jacky boy - mm, doubtful,
but brimmed full of Ideoligical (****) still)
:)
now, @ 1.45am, I am tired after watching telly,
a historic film of the Memphis Belle,
(well, the yanks did make it "seem" true)
but did have a sooper sleep this afternoon just after lunch, awakening just before teatime news to hear of our wonderfull governments moves in the relocation of MPs jobs...

your belated comments on either subject please,
(or get them banned/removed as I also dont give a donkeys rear end either)

me old luvey/luvey`s..

pyjammas I think many of us are more concerned about the mental ability and lack of developement of people like you who obviously have no idea that genetically we are all related. However some people learn to think and others learn to gab.Many people find it too easy to hate. That breeds the same response from your those you detest. It depends on your upbringing and intelligence. Its seems its too late in your case. But its regetable the legacy you leave your family for their sake.

Lumberjack1 and Smith W you are both literally flogging a dead horse people like mr "pajammas" (I've no idea what that word is) are quite happy trundling through life as ignorant misguided souls with little or no idea of what the real world is all about.

Let us not forget that we're it not for the fact he didn't want to live next door to as he put it "coloureds" the frequent name changing cretin of jaywick would still be holed up in Romford and bothering the users of their local news site instead of posting his confused and garbled tripe here.

ShadowReturns you are perfectly correct in your comments. But it does show the degree/ depth of racism that still exists in the UK and the difficulty of addressing the problem. I suggest we do need to have the racism problem in the open and not bottled up and that we do debate the matter, as we are now, to show that some, not all, Brits have a more balanced and objective understanding. We should try to understand respect and bridge the gap rather that make it wider. A wider gap leads to underlaying and bigger problems that just keep fermenting.
Thank you for raising your good point.

ShadowReturns wrote:
Lumberjack1 and Smith W you are both literally flogging a dead horse people like mr "pajammas" (I've no idea what that word is) are quite happy trundling through life as ignorant misguided souls with little or no idea of what the real world is all about.

Let us not forget that we're it not for the fact he didn't want to live next door to as he put it "coloureds" the frequent name changing cretin of jaywick would still be holed up in Romford and bothering the users of their local news site instead of posting his confused and garbled tripe here.

It is perfectly possible he is also on the local news site in Romford as well!

I respect Smith for trying to reason with people like this, but I fear their views are so entrenched that they just will not budge. But full marks for trying.

oh deary me,
such hostility from our ethic friends this morning.
(let me check the time here)
yes, still morning, but it reads more like good moaning coming from your strange bunch of haters of your only opinions.
SR me old luv, the word
"mr "pajammas"
is anything that those whose are displeased with my opinions, try to stop me making on this board of one sided views,
as even the whiter than white SR was once SD but displeased his masters @ gazette,
for reasons now forgotton..
Now, in a free & fair world, we have (had) something called freedom of speach,
unlike this gazettes "be in our group or be exiled"

If you no longer care for my comments,
then why in the name of my god, pursue in an attempt to riddicule my comments further..lol..lol

you see, I say whatever it takes to unbalance "your" views once I recieve any of your
"I`m better than you jaywick man" type of entrenched one sided views that I disagree with...
Its pure fun for me, to try your patience, you poor disunderstanding little group of hand holding one types..

I once refured to my dear friend SR`s leg pulling as chain tugging, but this was unfair to dog lovers.

So, for a while, you can, as a group of ethnic loving wannabees, get you hakles up with spitful little retorts,
as I care not, as I will be out in this glorious sunshine taking it easy while having a wry smile at this mornings hate mail from you all, dear, sweet, people.
Bye for now,
please dont work too hard now,
eh....

romantis yes and the tragedy is that todays 5 yr old will grow up with those same entrenched views - both sides of the fence! So what kind of future is that going to provide for both sides! A more entrenched and bitter confrontation, a greater prospect of strife and even war!
So what happens when both sides see their only solution is to blow each other to pieces? I see and understand the problem but so far its difficult to see an answer.

being against a person exorcising there right to be a working class Tory is a form of prejudice too , every body has some form of it everybody.my government in Turkey make me pay 500 pound to the consulate a year just to go see my parents and when i reach 30 I have to pay 5000 pounds or if I go back to see them without paying I would go to prison. if this is not extortion and prejudice I don't know what is.

itsalltomuch wrote:
being against a person exorcising there right to be a working class Tory is a form of prejudice too , every body has some form of it everybody.my government in Turkey make me pay 500 pound to the consulate a year just to go see my parents and when i reach 30 I have to pay 5000 pounds or if I go back to see them without paying I would go to prison. if this is not extortion and prejudice I don't know what is.

That is because I wont join army and hurt people

Oh romantic,
you SO displease me this fine day..
now, some of my family still live in sunny, but, overcrowded with non white ethnics,
Romford.
I am long gone from the leafy edges of north romford to golden sands of my retired choice, but visit the multi colourd shopping mayhem that is now a once market town.
I used to visit the livestock market days with my nans, once proud residents of Dagenham, but they would turn in there graves now at the difference of the Incomers have made.
History you cannot change,
but only the future you may achive such, be it for wrong reasons or not.
So, thats my take it or leave it comment for you my dear, sweet friend today.
Enjoy.
:).

bannanasintopajammas wrote:
oh deary me,
such hostility from our ethic friends this morning.
(let me check the time here)
yes, still morning, but it reads more like good moaning coming from your strange bunch of haters of your only opinions.
SR me old luv, the word
"mr "pajammas"
is anything that those whose are displeased with my opinions, try to stop me making on this board of one sided views,
as even the whiter than white SR was once SD but displeased his masters @ gazette,
for reasons now forgotton..
Now, in a free & fair world, we have (had) something called freedom of speach,
unlike this gazettes "be in our group or be exiled"

If you no longer care for my comments,
then why in the name of my god, pursue in an attempt to riddicule my comments further..lol..lol

you see, I say whatever it takes to unbalance "your" views once I recieve any of your
"I`m better than you jaywick man" type of entrenched one sided views that I disagree with...
Its pure fun for me, to try your patience, you poor disunderstanding little group of hand holding one types..

I once refured to my dear friend SR`s leg pulling as chain tugging, but this was unfair to dog lovers.

So, for a while, you can, as a group of ethnic loving wannabees, get you hakles up with spitful little retorts,
as I care not, as I will be out in this glorious sunshine taking it easy while having a wry smile at this mornings hate mail from you all, dear, sweet, people.
Bye for now,
please dont work too hard now,
eh....

Really are we going to go over this again? I have had one account banned after you decided to complain that I bullied you simply because I chose to pick apart the racist pathetic small minded and childish posts that you made several years back. Since that time i have continued to post under this name while you have switched usernames frequently.

The fact you choose to use phrases like "ethnic loving wannabes" only further serves to highlight the backward mentality that you have.

Like the story alludes to what chance have youngsters got when their parents and grandparents are bigoted fools, what kind of children are these people responsible for raising for the future.

Smith does well to try and at least educate these idiots but their views are not built from any form of experience these same people who "hate" immigrants and other races are more than happy to accept medical care from a foreign doctor working in this country and to wear clothes made of Indian cotton or fill their vehicle with fuel derived from Saudi oil and it is these very things that make these people such a laughing stock.

I kind of hoped that terms like "ethnic lover" had disappeared sometime in the 60s, but clearly not.

Jaywick man, you have freedom of speech and my god do you exercise that freedom. The fact that I and others disagree with you is not some kind of attack on that freedom. If your only response is more rambling nonsense, it does suggest you don´t have much to back up your views with.

Tell you what, you go and enjoy the beach and the sunshine and stop being so worried about the country going to the dogs because a few people have a different skin colour.

bannanasintopajammas wrote:
Oh romantic,
you SO displease me this fine day..
now, some of my family still live in sunny, but, overcrowded with non white ethnics,
Romford.
I am long gone from the leafy edges of north romford to golden sands of my retired choice, but visit the multi colourd shopping mayhem that is now a once market town.
I used to visit the livestock market days with my nans, once proud residents of Dagenham, but they would turn in there graves now at the difference of the Incomers have made.
History you cannot change,
but only the future you may achive such, be it for wrong reasons or not.
So, thats my take it or leave it comment for you my dear, sweet friend today.
Enjoy.
:).

We are hear to ,,, Want a kebab old man

On some chat sites they have an ignore button when you press it the id you don't want to see dos not appear to you any more can the gazette not get there it people to put this in place, it would stop allot of this aggro on hear.

On some chat sites they have an ignore button when you press it the id you don't want to see dos not appear to you any more can the gazette not get there it people to put this in place, it would stop allot of this aggro on hear.

romantic wrote:

ShadowReturns wrote:
Lumberjack1 and Smith W you are both literally flogging a dead horse people like mr "pajammas" (I've no idea what that word is) are quite happy trundling through life as ignorant misguided souls with little or no idea of what the real world is all about.

Let us not forget that we're it not for the fact he didn't want to live next door to as he put it "coloureds" the frequent name changing cretin of jaywick would still be holed up in Romford and bothering the users of their local news site instead of posting his confused and garbled tripe here.

It is perfectly possible he is also on the local news site in Romford as well!

I respect Smith for trying to reason with people like this, but I fear their views are so entrenched that they just will not budge. But full marks for trying.

Cheers, but I'll be honest, I've now given up! I'd generally considered the sort of racism we see from Jaywick's jester, as not in the same league as say 'Positive Addition', whose views were unashamedly fascist. But I'm now guessing that's simply down to an intelligence issue. Jaywick's jester simply hasn't got the brains to even spout a fascist ideology. If he did have the brains he probably would.

itsalltomuch wrote:
being against a person exorcising there right to be a working class Tory is a form of prejudice too , every body has some form of it everybody.my government in Turkey make me pay 500 pound to the consulate a year just to go see my parents and when i reach 30 I have to pay 5000 pounds or if I go back to see them without paying I would go to prison. if this is not extortion and prejudice I don't know what is.

If you want to call it 'prejudice' that's up to you. But a working class Tory can only ever be a clown, and a traitor siding with those who want to screw him and all the people around him over.

6079 Smith W wrote:

itsalltomuch wrote:
being against a person exorcising there right to be a working class Tory is a form of prejudice too , every body has some form of it everybody.my government in Turkey make me pay 500 pound to the consulate a year just to go see my parents and when i reach 30 I have to pay 5000 pounds or if I go back to see them without paying I would go to prison. if this is not extortion and prejudice I don't know what is.

If you want to call it 'prejudice' that's up to you. But a working class Tory can only ever be a clown, and a traitor siding with those who want to screw him and all the people around him over.

"" screw him "" I don't understand why you use sexual word, you English are so funny sometimes in the words you use.

I wouldn't disagree with that. We certainly have some odd phrases in our language!

LOL !!! as a Turkish man I still do not understand why you would use that as a descriptive..

itsalltomuch wrote:
LOL !!! as a Turkish man I still do not understand why you would use that as a descriptive..

Actually, I'm not totally sure this is a sexual reference, it might be from an expression of screwing somebody into the ground. But there are plenty of sexual references when it comes to swearing in English. When we say 'F you', we don't normally mean that we want to make love to that person!

6079 Smith W wrote:

itsalltomuch wrote:
LOL !!! as a Turkish man I still do not understand why you would use that as a descriptive..

Actually, I'm not totally sure this is a sexual reference, it might be from an expression of screwing somebody into the ground. But there are plenty of sexual references when it comes to swearing in English. When we say 'F you', we don't normally mean that we want to make love to that person!

You funny lady

re:-
"itsalltomuch says...
1:59pm Thu 6 Sep 12

On some chat sites they have an ignore button when you press it the id you don't want to see dos not appear to you any more can the gazette not get there it people to put this in place, it would stop allot of this aggro on hear.”

what a great Idea GRINCH,
works both ways matey!
happy daze eh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!

re:-
"itsalltomuch says...
12:29pm Thu 6 Sep 12

bannanasintopajammas wrote:
Oh romantic,
you SO displease me this fine day..
now, some of my family still live in sunny, but, overcrowded with non white ethnics,
Romford.
I am long gone from the leafy edges of north romford to golden sands of my retired choice, but visit the multi colourd shopping mayhem that is now a once market town.
I used to visit the livestock market days with my nans, once proud residents of Dagenham, but they would turn in there graves now at the difference of the Incomers have made.
History you cannot change,
but only the future you may achive such, be it for wrong reasons or not.
So, thats my take it or leave it comment for you my dear, sweet friend today.
Enjoy.
:).
We are hear to ,,, Want a kebab old man”

LOL.
LOL
do what GRINCH,
is that another turkish rude sexual expression,
as in, do you want a kabab....
LOL


happy daze GRINCH,
happy daze are back again.. :)

re:-
"ShadowReturns says...
12:24pm Thu 6 Sep 12

bannanasintopajammas wrote:
oh deary me,
such hostility from our ethic friends this morning.
(let me check the time here)
yes, still morning, but it reads more like good moaning coming from your strange bunch of haters of your only opinions.
SR me old luv, the word
"mr "pajammas"
is anything that those whose are displeased with my opinions, try to stop me making on this board of one sided views,
as even the whiter than white SR was once SD but displeased his masters @ gazette,
for reasons now forgotton..
Now, in a free & fair world, we have (had) something called freedom of speach,
unlike this gazettes "be in our group or be exiled"

If you no longer care for my comments,
then why in the name of my god, pursue in an attempt to riddicule my comments further..lol..lol
you see, I say whatever it takes to unbalance "your" views once I recieve any of your
"I`m better than you jaywick man" type of entrenched one sided views that I disagree with...
Its pure fun for me, to try your patience, you poor disunderstanding little group of hand holding one types..

I once refured to my dear friend SR`s leg pulling as chain tugging, but this was unfair to dog lovers.

So, for a while, you can, as a group of ethnic loving wannabees, get you hakles up with spitful little retorts,
as I care not, as I will be out in this glorious sunshine taking it easy while having a wry smile at this mornings hate mail from you all, dear, sweet, people.
Bye for now,
please dont work too hard now,
eh....

Ok, be fair, SR does agree with me "at times" bless him,
and I only retort when verbally attacked..
but, yes, you are an Honest person at least SR..................
....................

for that, I thank you my friend.
""Really are we going to go over this again? I have had one account banned after you decided to complain that I bullied you simply because I chose to pick apart the racist pathetic small minded and childish posts that you made several years back."" Since that time i have continued to post under this name while you have switched usernames frequently.

The fact you choose to use phrases like "ethnic loving wannabes" only further serves to highlight the backward mentality that you have.

Like the story alludes to what chance have youngsters got when their parents and grandparents are bigoted fools, what kind of children are these people responsible for raising for the future.

LOL
love it my dearest friend,
you see, you and the likes of our dear friend smithy,
give it out that your the non racist, be all, and end all, and no one dare to oppose your tight little groups attitudes, oppions, or thoughts.
But SHOCK,
when "someone" does, you come on full anger & hatred blazing..

Just goes to show our dear friend IS capable of losing his rag,
being abusive,
and being, well, just like me :)

small point about foriegn oil,
yes, you know,
that I along with a now small army of oil burners, use % mixes from a daring 100% to my more carefull 50% mixes of new, fresh, even drinkable cooking oil,
(at 99p per litre or less)
to power my beloved Landrover, thus leaving those who are easily led like sheep, into believing we have to pay top $$$ for our foriegn fuells.

Break the mould,
just say "stick it"

disclaimer:-
the tax office rules that if correct accounts are collected while using zero rated fuells,
the de mimis amount per vehicle per year can be as much as 2500 litres per year.
:)
thats a LOT of smiles per miles SR matey.
:)
fact!
yes I do pay tax on the product.
20% VAT.
the shop pays tax,
the maker pays tax,
the delivery company pays tax also.
but all for a 99p litre..

bannanasintopajammas wrote:
OK, without trawling through some of the other posters trash here.
yesterday, my grand daughter was attacked, punched, and had her purse & oyster card stolen.
all by a group of ethnics at the same school.
school contact was gained "eventually" but said no action taken as it was out of school.! WRONG,
it was "in school"
and what they really meant was,
as its an ethnic attack, the school was afraid to take action due to its ethnic nature!!
LOL. a "strong letter" has been despatched, along with a case officer as it was, an assault by not only a gang, but a gangs of ethnics against one 12 year old girl, walking alone.

My Nans would turn in their graves if they knew!
Now, the point I make here is,
my daughter has scool friends from most of the world, and sees there way of lifes as normal for them, thus has some good "ethnic" friends.
one such nice boy posted a comment on my grand daughters facebook page,
"not all us ethnics are bad"
me, should I be shocked ?.
"not all us ethnics are bad"
the lad was making a public appoligy for his fellow ethnics!

Oh how such an army of good ethnics can do if moblised in London at a start,
then operation TRIDENT case officers would/could, have a day off!!!

Not condoning any violence of coarse but If your grand daughter is as discriminating and aggressive as you she probably is not a complete innocent in the matter, but then we also only have your words for it that this even happened , I would guess knowing your track record on hear; that you have invented said story to justify your racialist stance.

A few thoughts on the rambling responses of Mr Pajammas.

Disliking somebody based on their skin colour and disagreeing with ridiculous poorly though out views of an individual are in no way the same thing.

Your "nans" would probably be more saddened with your failure to integrate your own family into the community that they raised you in.

If as you tell us a member of your family has been mugged why have you not got the police inolved? as for the supposed facebook comment you allude to i think that may be a small embellishment your little mind has created as if to add weight to your story.

bannanasintopajammas wrote:
OK boys, one at a time here,
dont all rush.......
re:-
"Not condoning any violence of coarse but If your grand daughter is as discriminating and aggressive as you she probably is not a complete innocent in the matter, but then we also only have your words for it that this even happened , I would guess knowing your track record on hear; that you have invented said story to justify your racialist stance.”

Grinch,
after all the **** you put on "here" not hear, about me,
you should be ashamed of yourself you silly old fool., but then, from you, its to be expected....
but :)
to know my grand daughter would see a quiet, violin playing, defenceless person, easily a target for those who think it great to attack in groups,
as they are animals, ethnic animals at that!

then my friend SR,
re:-
"If as you tell us a member of your family has been mugged why have you not got the police inolved? as for the supposed facebook comment you allude to i think that may be a small embellishment your little mind has created as if to add weight to your story.”
oh dear SR,
take some coffee mate,
""a "strong letter" has been despatched, along with a case officer as it was, an assault by not only a gang, but a gangs of ethnics against one 12 year old girl, walking alone.""
DO try and keep up my friend...
I know its a strain at times,
but, such is life eh.
:)
your views please on the christian girl of just 14 arrested for blasphemy of the koran.
the koran means nothing to not only myself, but a major part of the world, so explain the actions of a secular group who are a bit easily upset here?

then onto more rambles
(as you love it so)

Our new thusday and Sunday market got of to a flying start yesterday. missed myself, as I was a bit busy,
but great news for us poor, uneducated, shed dwelling peasents eh.
LOL...

Happy daze are here again GRINCH
me old miserable moaning displaced person.
:)

Sorry your inability to string together words in a way that other people may understand some what puts you on the back foot.

jacklumber1 wrote:
I suggest Pyjammas has nothing better to do with his time so he uses it to trot out his low mentality racist ideas. He really hasn't made any serious contributions to the debate other than to confirm his own racists ideas which suggests in reality he is only just an 'attention seeker!

You've hit the nail on the head his racist views are borne out of ignorance and low intelligence and not hatred.

Apart from which his boasting about his mecahnical skills is complete rubbish. He mentiond his 'Landy' well in the real world of the Arabian oil fields the 'landy' was useless. We tried one and had to drag it out the Empty Quarter using our own trucks. The mans full of S**T.