Would you use a cafe at the Old Heath Rec?

Would you use a cafe at the Old Heath Rec?

Would you use a cafe at the Old Heath Rec?

First published in News

A CAFE could be opened at Colchester’s Old Heath Recreation Ground.

Colchester Council has launched a consultation asking residents if they would regularly use a cafe and toilet facilities.

It has proposed using funding handed over by local developers to convert the former tennis and football pavilion.

A general consultation about park improvements found a cafe and toilets were top of people’s wish list.

The survey will assess whether there is enough demand to make the project financially viable.

Visit www.colchester.gov.uk/oldheathrec by Friday, September 5.

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4:01pm Wed 20 Aug 14

co2 says...

Well if its new toilets lets hope that the council keep them cleaner than the previous ones at the junction of old heath road/wimpole road.
Is there realy a need for a café ? We have bourne and bread café in nearby bourne road and the Chinese takeaway for those wanting chips.
A bigger need is for facilitys for the teenagers that congreagate in large numbers in the area.
Well if its new toilets lets hope that the council keep them cleaner than the previous ones at the junction of old heath road/wimpole road. Is there realy a need for a café ? We have bourne and bread café in nearby bourne road and the Chinese takeaway for those wanting chips. A bigger need is for facilitys for the teenagers that congreagate in large numbers in the area. co2
  • Score: -3

5:13pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Shrubendlad says...

Couldn't the teenagers use the Lib Dem Church Hall in Wimpole Road?
When I passed it yesterday it seemed deserted.
Couldn't the teenagers use the Lib Dem Church Hall in Wimpole Road? When I passed it yesterday it seemed deserted. Shrubendlad
  • Score: 2

5:21pm Wed 20 Aug 14

the mighty wah says...

co2 wrote:
Well if its new toilets lets hope that the council keep them cleaner than the previous ones at the junction of old heath road/wimpole road.
Is there realy a need for a café ? We have bourne and bread café in nearby bourne road and the Chinese takeaway for those wanting chips.
A bigger need is for facilitys for the teenagers that congreagate in large numbers in the area.
Its hard to keep toilets clean when they are misused/vandalised every day of the week.

Parents cant have a cup of tea whilst watching over their children from a café outside of the rec and for those wanting some chips are they to wait until 5pm when the Chinese take-away opens.
[quote][p][bold]co2[/bold] wrote: Well if its new toilets lets hope that the council keep them cleaner than the previous ones at the junction of old heath road/wimpole road. Is there realy a need for a café ? We have bourne and bread café in nearby bourne road and the Chinese takeaway for those wanting chips. A bigger need is for facilitys for the teenagers that congreagate in large numbers in the area.[/p][/quote]Its hard to keep toilets clean when they are misused/vandalised every day of the week. Parents cant have a cup of tea whilst watching over their children from a café outside of the rec and for those wanting some chips are they to wait until 5pm when the Chinese take-away opens. the mighty wah
  • Score: 9

6:55pm Wed 20 Aug 14

van man says...

What a great idea, let's dodge the dog t*rds on the way to getting a coffee!

I agree with the previous comment about creating a larger area for teenagers. Everybody moans about them in the streets, but where else are they suppose to go??
What a great idea, let's dodge the dog t*rds on the way to getting a coffee! I agree with the previous comment about creating a larger area for teenagers. Everybody moans about them in the streets, but where else are they suppose to go?? van man
  • Score: 2

7:05pm Wed 20 Aug 14

the mighty wah says...

van man wrote:
What a great idea, let's dodge the dog t*rds on the way to getting a coffee!

I agree with the previous comment about creating a larger area for teenagers. Everybody moans about them in the streets, but where else are they suppose to go??
Hardly any dog poo in the Rec. Those days are gone. The vast majority of dog walkers on the Rec are very responsible nowadays and many will pick up poo regardless of whether it came from their dog or not. I know this as I spend 3 hours a day over walking my dogs in the Rec.

Many teenagers litter all over the rec despite them being within 10 yards of a bin. The Rec is open all night now (despite the recent murders) as the police are called so often and are sick of having to wait for the key holder to turn up to let them in.
[quote][p][bold]van man[/bold] wrote: What a great idea, let's dodge the dog t*rds on the way to getting a coffee! I agree with the previous comment about creating a larger area for teenagers. Everybody moans about them in the streets, but where else are they suppose to go??[/p][/quote]Hardly any dog poo in the Rec. Those days are gone. The vast majority of dog walkers on the Rec are very responsible nowadays and many will pick up poo regardless of whether it came from their dog or not. I know this as I spend 3 hours a day over walking my dogs in the Rec. Many teenagers litter all over the rec despite them being within 10 yards of a bin. The Rec is open all night now (despite the recent murders) as the police are called so often and are sick of having to wait for the key holder to turn up to let them in. the mighty wah
  • Score: 9

9:50pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Boris says...

They can re-open the existing toilets, why build new ones?
.
And they should restore the three grass tennis courts, which were well used in the summer. Then CBC outsourced the management of the Rec, and the company in charge stopped collecting fees from tennis players, who would have been happy to pay. This led council officers to state that people were no longer using the courts, which was not true. So the contractors stopped mowing the grass, kids started playing football on the courts, slates came off the pavilion roof and were not replaced, and Colchester's best oasis of peaceful sporting activity was no more. This all happened about 10 years ago.
They can re-open the existing toilets, why build new ones? . And they should restore the three grass tennis courts, which were well used in the summer. Then CBC outsourced the management of the Rec, and the company in charge stopped collecting fees from tennis players, who would have been happy to pay. This led council officers to state that people were no longer using the courts, which was not true. So the contractors stopped mowing the grass, kids started playing football on the courts, slates came off the pavilion roof and were not replaced, and Colchester's best oasis of peaceful sporting activity was no more. This all happened about 10 years ago. Boris
  • Score: 6

7:36am Thu 21 Aug 14

Shrubendlad says...

Boris wrote:
They can re-open the existing toilets, why build new ones?
.
And they should restore the three grass tennis courts, which were well used in the summer. Then CBC outsourced the management of the Rec, and the company in charge stopped collecting fees from tennis players, who would have been happy to pay. This led council officers to state that people were no longer using the courts, which was not true. So the contractors stopped mowing the grass, kids started playing football on the courts, slates came off the pavilion roof and were not replaced, and Colchester's best oasis of peaceful sporting activity was no more. This all happened about 10 years ago.
Yes well Boris
There have been years of mistakes in this town.
Planning has been short term and badly managed-too many petty political
bickers. Your Water Tower could have been sorted by now with sensible compromise. Its time to stop the nonsense a make the town fit for the 21st Century-still preserving its unique character.
Having said that places like the Layer Road and properties surrounding the Abbey Fields are beginning to look much better.
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: They can re-open the existing toilets, why build new ones? . And they should restore the three grass tennis courts, which were well used in the summer. Then CBC outsourced the management of the Rec, and the company in charge stopped collecting fees from tennis players, who would have been happy to pay. This led council officers to state that people were no longer using the courts, which was not true. So the contractors stopped mowing the grass, kids started playing football on the courts, slates came off the pavilion roof and were not replaced, and Colchester's best oasis of peaceful sporting activity was no more. This all happened about 10 years ago.[/p][/quote]Yes well Boris There have been years of mistakes in this town. Planning has been short term and badly managed-too many petty political bickers. Your Water Tower could have been sorted by now with sensible compromise. Its time to stop the nonsense a make the town fit for the 21st Century-still preserving its unique character. Having said that places like the Layer Road and properties surrounding the Abbey Fields are beginning to look much better. Shrubendlad
  • Score: 1

7:57am Thu 21 Aug 14

the mighty wah says...

Boris wrote:
They can re-open the existing toilets, why build new ones?
.
And they should restore the three grass tennis courts, which were well used in the summer. Then CBC outsourced the management of the Rec, and the company in charge stopped collecting fees from tennis players, who would have been happy to pay. This led council officers to state that people were no longer using the courts, which was not true. So the contractors stopped mowing the grass, kids started playing football on the courts, slates came off the pavilion roof and were not replaced, and Colchester's best oasis of peaceful sporting activity was no more. This all happened about 10 years ago.
To be fair Boris the 'new' concreted area is well used all year round where as the tennis courts were only used 3 months of the year.
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: They can re-open the existing toilets, why build new ones? . And they should restore the three grass tennis courts, which were well used in the summer. Then CBC outsourced the management of the Rec, and the company in charge stopped collecting fees from tennis players, who would have been happy to pay. This led council officers to state that people were no longer using the courts, which was not true. So the contractors stopped mowing the grass, kids started playing football on the courts, slates came off the pavilion roof and were not replaced, and Colchester's best oasis of peaceful sporting activity was no more. This all happened about 10 years ago.[/p][/quote]To be fair Boris the 'new' concreted area is well used all year round where as the tennis courts were only used 3 months of the year. the mighty wah
  • Score: 4

8:00am Thu 21 Aug 14

Brown Envelopes says...

1 Why not

2 If you do not try you wont know

3 Magadelen Hall is always full of busy people, doing what I dont know but always busy, there is nothing wrong with the hall.

4 coffee tea and bickies in the rec plus a wee wee is a good idea

5 Might bring the community together
1 Why not 2 If you do not try you wont know 3 Magadelen Hall is always full of busy people, doing what I dont know but always busy, there is nothing wrong with the hall. 4 coffee tea and bickies in the rec plus a wee wee is a good idea 5 Might bring the community together Brown Envelopes
  • Score: 0

8:40am Thu 21 Aug 14

Shrubendlad says...

Im old enough to remember going to Billy Smarts Circus on the Rec,still have family in Recreation Road and my paternal grandparents both grew up in houses on Wimpole. The Rec needs to be protected and used by the community.
Im old enough to remember going to Billy Smarts Circus on the Rec,still have family in Recreation Road and my paternal grandparents both grew up in houses on Wimpole. The Rec needs to be protected and used by the community. Shrubendlad
  • Score: 10

9:07am Thu 21 Aug 14

AngryManNewTown says...

I have just done the survey, looks like this is all they want to do with it. Personally i can't say that i would ever use the cafe but the toilets would be a good idea but they would need to be looked after this time. I think that the money would be better spent giving the teenagers something better.

There is a good park for the younger children but nothing for the older children. Money was wasted on the 'Dog Training' area that could have been better spent!! More waste from Ward Councillors.
I have just done the survey, looks like this is all they want to do with it. Personally i can't say that i would ever use the cafe but the toilets would be a good idea but they would need to be looked after this time. I think that the money would be better spent giving the teenagers something better. There is a good park for the younger children but nothing for the older children. Money was wasted on the 'Dog Training' area that could have been better spent!! More waste from Ward Councillors. AngryManNewTown
  • Score: 6

11:46am Thu 21 Aug 14

the mighty wah says...

Shrubendlad wrote:
Im old enough to remember going to Billy Smarts Circus on the Rec,still have family in Recreation Road and my paternal grandparents both grew up in houses on Wimpole. The Rec needs to be protected and used by the community.
I remember laying in bed as a lad and hearing the lions roar.

The recs gone down hill slightly since the full time 'reccys' were done away with.
[quote][p][bold]Shrubendlad[/bold] wrote: Im old enough to remember going to Billy Smarts Circus on the Rec,still have family in Recreation Road and my paternal grandparents both grew up in houses on Wimpole. The Rec needs to be protected and used by the community.[/p][/quote]I remember laying in bed as a lad and hearing the lions roar. The recs gone down hill slightly since the full time 'reccys' were done away with. the mighty wah
  • Score: 4

11:54am Thu 21 Aug 14

roger bacon says...

Boris wrote:
They can re-open the existing toilets, why build new ones?
.
And they should restore the three grass tennis courts, which were well used in the summer. Then CBC outsourced the management of the Rec, and the company in charge stopped collecting fees from tennis players, who would have been happy to pay. This led council officers to state that people were no longer using the courts, which was not true. So the contractors stopped mowing the grass, kids started playing football on the courts, slates came off the pavilion roof and were not replaced, and Colchester's best oasis of peaceful sporting activity was no more. This all happened about 10 years ago.
What is the point of restoring the grass courts to be used for a maximum of 100 days a year. To keep grass courts in a reasonable condition they have to be cut and marked out at least twice a week. Then if you are keen to play tennis then join a club in Colchester there are at least 8 in the borough at very reasonable prices.
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: They can re-open the existing toilets, why build new ones? . And they should restore the three grass tennis courts, which were well used in the summer. Then CBC outsourced the management of the Rec, and the company in charge stopped collecting fees from tennis players, who would have been happy to pay. This led council officers to state that people were no longer using the courts, which was not true. So the contractors stopped mowing the grass, kids started playing football on the courts, slates came off the pavilion roof and were not replaced, and Colchester's best oasis of peaceful sporting activity was no more. This all happened about 10 years ago.[/p][/quote]What is the point of restoring the grass courts to be used for a maximum of 100 days a year. To keep grass courts in a reasonable condition they have to be cut and marked out at least twice a week. Then if you are keen to play tennis then join a club in Colchester there are at least 8 in the borough at very reasonable prices. roger bacon
  • Score: 0

12:55pm Thu 21 Aug 14

stevedawson says...

No havent been on the rec since the the old pub closed.
No havent been on the rec since the the old pub closed. stevedawson
  • Score: 0

4:15pm Thu 21 Aug 14

hughie-s says...

To see if there is a demand for refreshments why not let a mobile caterer have a pitch for a year. There were grass courts at Shrub End not in use yesterday afternoon.
To see if there is a demand for refreshments why not let a mobile caterer have a pitch for a year. There were grass courts at Shrub End not in use yesterday afternoon. hughie-s
  • Score: 2

3:29pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Zaffre says...

If they are going to replace the toilets they need to put in single person cubicles that are open to the road with CCTV on the walkway/full-length doors (like the ones at Dovercourt) to stop groups or pairs of people meeting in them for anti-social purposes (yes- they were used for daytime drug deals and sexual transactions in the 1980s but then I suppose many think it is funny for children to walk in on such things).
If they are going to replace the toilets they need to put in single person cubicles that are open to the road with CCTV on the walkway/full-length doors (like the ones at Dovercourt) to stop groups or pairs of people meeting in them for anti-social purposes (yes- they were used for daytime drug deals and sexual transactions in the 1980s but then I suppose many think it is funny for children to walk in on such things). Zaffre
  • Score: 0

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