Fire alarms may not be responded to unless backed by a 999 call during the fire strikes.

Gazette: Fire alarms not enough to get firefighter response during strikes - call 999 Fire alarms not enough to get firefighter response during strikes - call 999

FIRE alarms may not be responded to unless backed by a 999 call during the fire strikes.

Firefighters are carrying out a series of two-hour strikes over pay and pensions.

During these strikes Essex County Fire and Rescue Service said it may not be able to respond to alarms so call 999.

This includes automatic alarms from schools, hospitals and care homes.

Firefighters are angry with Government plans to extend the retirement age for firefighters which they say will put the public in danger forcing those too old to do the job on the frontline to continue.

Strikes are being held every day until Monday.

During the strike between 5pm and 7pm yesterday there were seven emergency incidents including a fire in a park in Clacton and two car fires.

During the strike this morning, between 6am and 8am there were no incidents.

The next strike is between 5pm and 7pm tonight followed by strikes in the morning and evening on tomorrow and Thursday.

 

 

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10:23am Tue 15 Jul 14

donttellanyone says...

Wait a second so if I went on strike I would be putting people at risk I would be sacked I work for the NHS I do my job not for the money but because I love helping people. You should not be allowed to go on strike as a fire fighter.
Wait a second so if I went on strike I would be putting people at risk I would be sacked I work for the NHS I do my job not for the money but because I love helping people. You should not be allowed to go on strike as a fire fighter. donttellanyone
  • Score: 99

10:30am Tue 15 Jul 14

Ontheball says...

Essex fire service don't, unlike many others, attend most of the fire alarm calls that come in to them, so what is difference to their normal substandard service!
Essex fire service don't, unlike many others, attend most of the fire alarm calls that come in to them, so what is difference to their normal substandard service! Ontheball
  • Score: 100

10:41am Tue 15 Jul 14

Mohammad Akbar says...

Stop giving them publicity! They are lazy money grabbers who should be sacked, if normal people didn't do their jobs they would be sacked why are they any different there are loads of people who would love to be Firefighters getting the wage and pensions they already get there are people who haven't had a pay raise of 10 years but they still get on with their jobs. Firefighters get payed to much let's campaign to got them a wage reduction. I must say it's nice to see the faces of the Firefighters who would happily let you property and belongings burn to the ground.
Stop giving them publicity! They are lazy money grabbers who should be sacked, if normal people didn't do their jobs they would be sacked why are they any different there are loads of people who would love to be Firefighters getting the wage and pensions they already get there are people who haven't had a pay raise of 10 years but they still get on with their jobs. Firefighters get payed to much let's campaign to got them a wage reduction. I must say it's nice to see the faces of the Firefighters who would happily let you property and belongings burn to the ground. Mohammad Akbar
  • Score: 99

10:46am Tue 15 Jul 14

Say It As It Is OK? says...

On another thread on the same topic yesterday it resulted in name calling which doesn't help from any side!

Wasn't it Tony Blair, assisted by Gordon Brown, who allowed this country to get into the mess in 2007. It was a major world downturn in the economy so not entirely their fault but they allowed the bankers to do what they wanted and also allowed borrowing go unchecked. Since then everyone has suffered and Millions of people have seen their pensions (and pension rights) eroded.

It's a fact people are living longer and pensions are at a straining point. There is the expectation (although I don’t always agree with it) that everyone will have to work longer and pay more into their own pension than ever before. But what other choice is there?

The simple question is Why should Teachers, Firefighters or for that matter any other group be immune from what everyone else is having to put up with (other than Members of Parliament, who always apply the I'm alright Jack philosophy to themselves)

What I don't understand is why these groups are making these demands and why they think they are a special case, over and above anyone else?

Accept firefighters have a physical job but so do many other manual workers and tradespeople who are not striking or trying to hold the nation to ransom. The fact is this government will not change their position and even after the next general election even if Labour are in power, they won't change things.
On another thread on the same topic yesterday it resulted in name calling which doesn't help from any side! Wasn't it Tony Blair, assisted by Gordon Brown, who allowed this country to get into the mess in 2007. It was a major world downturn in the economy so not entirely their fault but they allowed the bankers to do what they wanted and also allowed borrowing go unchecked. Since then everyone has suffered and Millions of people have seen their pensions (and pension rights) eroded. It's a fact people are living longer and pensions are at a straining point. There is the expectation (although I don’t always agree with it) that everyone will have to work longer and pay more into their own pension than ever before. But what other choice is there? The simple question is Why should Teachers, Firefighters or for that matter any other group be immune from what everyone else is having to put up with (other than Members of Parliament, who always apply the I'm alright Jack philosophy to themselves) What I don't understand is why these groups are making these demands and why they think they are a special case, over and above anyone else? Accept firefighters have a physical job but so do many other manual workers and tradespeople who are not striking or trying to hold the nation to ransom. The fact is this government will not change their position and even after the next general election even if Labour are in power, they won't change things. Say It As It Is OK?
  • Score: 100

10:49am Tue 15 Jul 14

cowdraydarran says...

What a joke................
.......if i was to go on strike i would get the sack so why the hell are fireman allowed to do it without reprisal.Sack the lot of them and employ those that are happy with employment.Every time i go passed the fire station they are on strike for one thing or another and to be honest its getting tedious.If i went on strike would they support me..............WOUL
D THEY HELL.
What a joke................ .......if i was to go on strike i would get the sack so why the hell are fireman allowed to do it without reprisal.Sack the lot of them and employ those that are happy with employment.Every time i go passed the fire station they are on strike for one thing or another and to be honest its getting tedious.If i went on strike would they support me..............WOUL D THEY HELL. cowdraydarran
  • Score: 99

10:56am Tue 15 Jul 14

wormshero says...

cowdraydarran wrote:
What a joke................

.......if i was to go on strike i would get the sack so why the hell are fireman allowed to do it without reprisal.Sack the lot of them and employ those that are happy with employment.Every time i go passed the fire station they are on strike for one thing or another and to be honest its getting tedious.If i went on strike would they support me..............WOUL

D THEY HELL.
They're on strike for the same issue, to be fair. The issue wasn't resolved from earlier strikes (going on for years) and it's hardly going to help their case if they just went "ah, one attempt at striking didn't work, let's just accept our fate, take the far worse employment conditions than were originally agreed and get on with it"

It's incredibly annoying the Gazette constantly posting negative articles about the strikes, the comments are always the usual "I'm badly off so these people have no right to try and stop the negative changes to their employment" and it's pretty depressing to see such negative views from people. If you're not happy with your own employment terms join an union and do something about it, don't moan about people who provide an essential service fighting to keep their rights.
[quote][p][bold]cowdraydarran[/bold] wrote: What a joke................ .......if i was to go on strike i would get the sack so why the hell are fireman allowed to do it without reprisal.Sack the lot of them and employ those that are happy with employment.Every time i go passed the fire station they are on strike for one thing or another and to be honest its getting tedious.If i went on strike would they support me..............WOUL D THEY HELL.[/p][/quote]They're on strike for the same issue, to be fair. The issue wasn't resolved from earlier strikes (going on for years) and it's hardly going to help their case if they just went "ah, one attempt at striking didn't work, let's just accept our fate, take the far worse employment conditions than were originally agreed and get on with it" It's incredibly annoying the Gazette constantly posting negative articles about the strikes, the comments are always the usual "I'm badly off so these people have no right to try and stop the negative changes to their employment" and it's pretty depressing to see such negative views from people. If you're not happy with your own employment terms join an union and do something about it, don't moan about people who provide an essential service fighting to keep their rights. wormshero
  • Score: -99

1:01pm Tue 15 Jul 14

sam vines says...

I feel some sympathy for the fire fighters on the front line; however I feel the union is exploiting them for its own needs.

The union is happy to blame this mess on the current government but seems to forget the previous government called their bluff during strikes and sent the armed forces in to cover them which resulted in the public support for the strike drop and the union leave its affiliation with Labour.

This current government took over gave the public purse piggy bank a good shake and found it was full of IOU’s due to the boom and bust nature of the last political cycle and is having to take a tough stance with the public sector pay admittedly it failed at the first hurdle to sort itself out first.

Just look at the armed forces they have had 3 changes to their pension several deep cuts to manpower this century (note we are only 14 years in this century and look what the politicians have made our armed forces do in that time) did they strike did they say they will stop defending the realm for 3 hours a day. No they accepted the harsh reality is it was still a good pension compared to what you can buy in the private sector.

Public sector strikes very rarely archive their aim and the biggest losers are the workers whilst their general sectaries earn far more than the workers they are supposed to serve just look at Matt Wrack he gets £44281 in pension contributions alone whilst a new fire fighter will get paid £21369. Perhaps the FBU should get its own house in order before trying to hold the public to ransom with veiled threats about fire alarms. I imagine some new entrants into the fire brigade are beginning to feel the dream job they achieved is being slowly destroyed by its union’s militant nature.
I feel some sympathy for the fire fighters on the front line; however I feel the union is exploiting them for its own needs. The union is happy to blame this mess on the current government but seems to forget the previous government called their bluff during strikes and sent the armed forces in to cover them which resulted in the public support for the strike drop and the union leave its affiliation with Labour. This current government took over gave the public purse piggy bank a good shake and found it was full of IOU’s due to the boom and bust nature of the last political cycle and is having to take a tough stance with the public sector pay admittedly it failed at the first hurdle to sort itself out first. Just look at the armed forces they have had 3 changes to their pension several deep cuts to manpower this century (note we are only 14 years in this century and look what the politicians have made our armed forces do in that time) did they strike did they say they will stop defending the realm for 3 hours a day. No they accepted the harsh reality is it was still a good pension compared to what you can buy in the private sector. Public sector strikes very rarely archive their aim and the biggest losers are the workers whilst their general sectaries earn far more than the workers they are supposed to serve just look at Matt Wrack he gets £44281 in pension contributions alone whilst a new fire fighter will get paid £21369. Perhaps the FBU should get its own house in order before trying to hold the public to ransom with veiled threats about fire alarms. I imagine some new entrants into the fire brigade are beginning to feel the dream job they achieved is being slowly destroyed by its union’s militant nature. sam vines
  • Score: 101

2:30pm Tue 15 Jul 14

wearebeingwatched says...

cowdraydarran wrote:
What a joke................

.......if i was to go on strike i would get the sack so why the hell are fireman allowed to do it without reprisal.Sack the lot of them and employ those that are happy with employment.Every time i go passed the fire station they are on strike for one thing or another and to be honest its getting tedious.If i went on strike would they support me..............WOUL

D THEY HELL.
If you went on strike and it was a properly organised strike, then you would not be sacked as you are protected by the law.

It is a fundamental right of workers to withdraw their services from an employer if they feel they are being treated unfairly or over pay and conditions plus many other things. Without this right employers would run roughshod over workers.

Without the unions and previous strikes we would not enjoy/get a lot of the rights as workers we get today, safe work conditions, better pay, better holidays, shorter working hours etc etc.

Just because you do not agree (which is your right) with the reason the Firefighters are striking (which is their right) is not a reason to sack them for what they are doing legally.
[quote][p][bold]cowdraydarran[/bold] wrote: What a joke................ .......if i was to go on strike i would get the sack so why the hell are fireman allowed to do it without reprisal.Sack the lot of them and employ those that are happy with employment.Every time i go passed the fire station they are on strike for one thing or another and to be honest its getting tedious.If i went on strike would they support me..............WOUL D THEY HELL.[/p][/quote]If you went on strike and it was a properly organised strike, then you would not be sacked as you are protected by the law. It is a fundamental right of workers to withdraw their services from an employer if they feel they are being treated unfairly or over pay and conditions plus many other things. Without this right employers would run roughshod over workers. Without the unions and previous strikes we would not enjoy/get a lot of the rights as workers we get today, safe work conditions, better pay, better holidays, shorter working hours etc etc. Just because you do not agree (which is your right) with the reason the Firefighters are striking (which is their right) is not a reason to sack them for what they are doing legally. wearebeingwatched
  • Score: -99
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