Friday update: Streetlights off after murder of Nahid Al-Manea in Greenstead

Gazette: Streetlights off and cameras broken as murder hunt continues Streetlights off and cameras broken as murder hunt continues

STREETLIGHTS will remain off in Greenstead even though Colchester's killers are still on the loose.

The lights which were turned on to help with the search and provide reassurance are off again in Greenstead.

Residents are urging Essex County Council to change its mind.


Essex University student Nahid Al-Manea, 31, was found with 16 stab wounds on the Salary Brook Trail on June 17.


Jacqueline Allan, 49, of Avon Way, Greenstead, said: “While they are still investigating, while the killer is out there, they can’t have the lights off.

"We need them back on. People are scared.”

The murder came three months after Jim Attifled, 33, was killed near Colchester’s Castle Park.

He was found with 102 stab wounds on March 29.

Street lights were turned back on temporarily on the nearby Riverside estate, but were turned off again within weeks.

A police spokesman said: “The lights were kept on in Greenstead after the murder to support the significant operational response to the investigation of the scene.

"That part of the operation has been completed and the force has no plans to request an extension.”

Rodney Bass, cabinet member for highways and transportation at County Hall, said: “Police requested street lights were kept on in the Greenstead area on a temporary basis after the murder of Nahid Almanea last month.

"“This request, like others from the emergency services, was granted.

“Part night lighting has now resumed in the area following the conclusion of investigations at the scene.

“Police have made no request for an extension.”

Anyone with information about the murders should call 01245 282103 or Crimestoppers on 0800 555111.

Chief Constable Stephen Kavanagh yesterday visited the university to sign a book of condolence
for Nahid on the same day the Gazette revealed CCTV cameras close to where Nahid's body were found are broken.

Detectives have admitted their murder hunt has been hampered by poor-quality images, and in some cases, no images at all, because of broken cameras.

Both cameras at the Clingoe Hill underpass, 50 yards from the spot in Colchester where Nahid was found with 16 stab wounds, are out of action.

Police have been unable to trace at least 11 potential witnesses seen on the Salary Brook Trail where her body was found. It is likely most would have used the underpass.

So far, the only CCTV image police have been able to release was Nahid walking past local shops moments before she was killed.

Police were also only able to use images from one of the cameras close to where Jim Attfield's body was found near to Castle Park on the morning of Saturday, March 29, with the others described as "fuzzy"

The news has prompted borough councillor and Neighbourhood Watch co-ordinator Martin Goss, to call for an urgent review of CCTV coverage in Colchester.

He said: “There are cameras in Mile End and Greenstead but they are not wired into the network. We wouldn’t know if they were not working until something happened.

“We are paying for cameras that are not working or are not good enough, so we might as well not bother. It comes down to money, but we have to look at this and a thorough review should take place.”

The cameras at the underpass were put up seven years ago by Colchester Crime and Disorder Reduction Partnership, but were put out of action by flooding in November 2011.

Pamela Donnelly, chairman of the Safer Colchester Partnership, which is now responsible for them, said: “After severe flooding damage, the cameras were not bought back into operation as extra funding was not available to cover the extensive maintenance costs.

“A camera put up by the partnership is operating near the Hunwicke shops and images assisting the investigation have been released by the police.”

Det Chief Supt Steve Worron, who is leading the murder investigation, admitted better CCTV footage would have helped.

He added: “We have to work with what we have available.

“Local authority CCTV is always slightly grainy, because it needs to work in all weather conditions. The public thinks Big Brother is watching, but in some places where people think there are cameras, there are just empty boxes.

“However, I don’t think about what could have been. Clearly, as we move through to the end of an investigation, we will review what can be done to stop such serious crimes in the future.

“There is clearly work community safety partnerships can do nationally on picture quality.

You can get high-definition images now and not all CCTV is on that level.”

Mr Worron said police did have some clearer images, but had not released because they had already identified the people in them.

He added: “The public just see the images we have not been able to identify, which are often the more grainy ones.”

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10:30am Fri 11 Jul 14

bcolchester says...

I think its terrible that cctv isn't working and also I live on Brook and I have to travel home from work after the street lights are switched off. If aint scary enough that the killer hasnt been caught and it happened during the day it makes the evenings even more frightening I shouldn't have to feel so scared walking to my front door nobody should. The council should turn the lights back on it dose make you feel bit more safer
I think its terrible that cctv isn't working and also I live on Brook and I have to travel home from work after the street lights are switched off. If aint scary enough that the killer hasnt been caught and it happened during the day it makes the evenings even more frightening I shouldn't have to feel so scared walking to my front door nobody should. The council should turn the lights back on it dose make you feel bit more safer bcolchester
  • Score: 34

10:32am Fri 11 Jul 14

SOMETHING2SAY says...

Get ALL the bloody cctv cameras throughout Colchester working...and put ALL the bloody street lights back on at night !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!
Get ALL the bloody cctv cameras throughout Colchester working...and put ALL the bloody street lights back on at night !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! SOMETHING2SAY
  • Score: 59

10:35am Fri 11 Jul 14

Steve1210 says...

Put it another way, if the CCTV was working correctly in that area, there is probably a 95% chance the killer would have been identified.

In this day and age the cost of 'acceptable CCTV coverage' (not necessarily HD quality) is fairly low, and needs further investment for public safety - something which seriously needs to be looked at.

As for the Castle Park CCTV, the image quality is shocking, and with it being in the town centre, maybe more money should be spent to upgrade it beyond 2005 camera phone quality.

With the lights being turned off, I hope that nothing else happens in the coming weeks, otherwise the blood won't just be on the hands of the killers.

Possession of a knife should mean an instant jail term, deter people carrying them at all costs... If you go equipped to kill, you should be treated like a potential murderer. There is absolutely NO reason to carry a knife.
Put it another way, if the CCTV was working correctly in that area, there is probably a 95% chance the killer would have been identified. In this day and age the cost of 'acceptable CCTV coverage' (not necessarily HD quality) is fairly low, and needs further investment for public safety - something which seriously needs to be looked at. As for the Castle Park CCTV, the image quality is shocking, and with it being in the town centre, maybe more money should be spent to upgrade it beyond 2005 camera phone quality. With the lights being turned off, I hope that nothing else happens in the coming weeks, otherwise the blood won't just be on the hands of the killers. Possession of a knife should mean an instant jail term, deter people carrying them at all costs... If you go equipped to kill, you should be treated like a potential murderer. There is absolutely NO reason to carry a knife. Steve1210
  • Score: 47

10:46am Fri 11 Jul 14

totallyfootball says...

Time to resign Russell, you are useless and unfit for purpose, what have you ever done for the good of this town?
Time to resign Russell, you are useless and unfit for purpose, what have you ever done for the good of this town? totallyfootball
  • Score: 18

11:03am Fri 11 Jul 14

sam vines says...

totallyfootball wrote:
Time to resign Russell, you are useless and unfit for purpose, what have you ever done for the good of this town?
Unfortunately our local MP is not at fault unless one his constituents' has complained about the CCTV not working then he is at fault for not doing his duty to publicly find out why its not.

Who is at fault is the Colchester councillor who has sat at the divvying up of council tax payers money claiming they needed a share of it for the CCTV system they are responsible for when its quite clearly not working. I would hope an independent audit will look at how long the cameras have been broken and if its more than 3 months then criminal charges are brought against the councillor for failing to manage his department and defrauding the council tax payer.

We are forced to pay for a system we expect it to be working and if its not working we should be informed when it will be fixed.
[quote][p][bold]totallyfootball[/bold] wrote: Time to resign Russell, you are useless and unfit for purpose, what have you ever done for the good of this town?[/p][/quote]Unfortunately our local MP is not at fault unless one his constituents' has complained about the CCTV not working then he is at fault for not doing his duty to publicly find out why its not. Who is at fault is the Colchester councillor who has sat at the divvying up of council tax payers money claiming they needed a share of it for the CCTV system they are responsible for when its quite clearly not working. I would hope an independent audit will look at how long the cameras have been broken and if its more than 3 months then criminal charges are brought against the councillor for failing to manage his department and defrauding the council tax payer. We are forced to pay for a system we expect it to be working and if its not working we should be informed when it will be fixed. sam vines
  • Score: 14

11:30am Fri 11 Jul 14

graham1983 says...

I find this absolutely shocking and not acceptable!! This town is a joke!!
I find this absolutely shocking and not acceptable!! This town is a joke!! graham1983
  • Score: 27

11:44am Fri 11 Jul 14

totallyfootball says...

sam vines wrote:
totallyfootball wrote:
Time to resign Russell, you are useless and unfit for purpose, what have you ever done for the good of this town?
Unfortunately our local MP is not at fault unless one his constituents' has complained about the CCTV not working then he is at fault for not doing his duty to publicly find out why its not.

Who is at fault is the Colchester councillor who has sat at the divvying up of council tax payers money claiming they needed a share of it for the CCTV system they are responsible for when its quite clearly not working. I would hope an independent audit will look at how long the cameras have been broken and if its more than 3 months then criminal charges are brought against the councillor for failing to manage his department and defrauding the council tax payer.

We are forced to pay for a system we expect it to be working and if its not working we should be informed when it will be fixed.
Sorry Sam, are you telling me with all the exposure and uproar these two murders have had that he is unaware? No you are probably right, his head is usually seen in only two places, in the sand or disappearing up his own backside. Not having a go at you mate, just saying!
[quote][p][bold]sam vines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]totallyfootball[/bold] wrote: Time to resign Russell, you are useless and unfit for purpose, what have you ever done for the good of this town?[/p][/quote]Unfortunately our local MP is not at fault unless one his constituents' has complained about the CCTV not working then he is at fault for not doing his duty to publicly find out why its not. Who is at fault is the Colchester councillor who has sat at the divvying up of council tax payers money claiming they needed a share of it for the CCTV system they are responsible for when its quite clearly not working. I would hope an independent audit will look at how long the cameras have been broken and if its more than 3 months then criminal charges are brought against the councillor for failing to manage his department and defrauding the council tax payer. We are forced to pay for a system we expect it to be working and if its not working we should be informed when it will be fixed.[/p][/quote]Sorry Sam, are you telling me with all the exposure and uproar these two murders have had that he is unaware? No you are probably right, his head is usually seen in only two places, in the sand or disappearing up his own backside. Not having a go at you mate, just saying! totallyfootball
  • Score: 3

11:48am Fri 11 Jul 14

Say It As It Is OK? says...

"Chief Constable Stephen Kavanagh yesterday visited the university to sign a book of condolence for Nahid".

Not heard a mention about a book of condolence is for Jim Attfield?

And agree Bob Russell could not have prevented these murders but if he was actually aware of the fears the public have he could and should have gone against the Lib Dem party whip and voted for tougher penalties for knife crime. He chose not to.

One thing Bob could be doing is using his office to place pressure onto Rodney Bass and ECC to keep the lights on but we haven't heard a peek from Bob for weeks, perhaps he is keeping his head below the parapet, hoping it will all go away!
"Chief Constable Stephen Kavanagh yesterday visited the university to sign a book of condolence for Nahid". Not heard a mention about a book of condolence is for Jim Attfield? And agree Bob Russell could not have prevented these murders but if he was actually aware of the fears the public have he could and should have gone against the Lib Dem party whip and voted for tougher penalties for knife crime. He chose not to. One thing Bob could be doing is using his office to place pressure onto Rodney Bass and ECC to keep the lights on but we haven't heard a peek from Bob for weeks, perhaps he is keeping his head below the parapet, hoping it will all go away! Say It As It Is OK?
  • Score: 32

2:04pm Fri 11 Jul 14

Colonel Kurtz says...

Colchester council are a joke, they are the most incompetent, inefficient, wasteful organisation in the east of England if you ever tried to contact them. If they were a private company then they would all be sacked.

Half of them work from home and the other half are off sick or on diversity/ health and safety courses. Its about time they got off their gold plated pension pots and actually did something positive.
Colchester council are a joke, they are the most incompetent, inefficient, wasteful organisation in the east of England if you ever tried to contact them. If they were a private company then they would all be sacked. Half of them work from home and the other half are off sick or on diversity/ health and safety courses. Its about time they got off their gold plated pension pots and actually did something positive. Colonel Kurtz
  • Score: 9

2:10pm Fri 11 Jul 14

intrestedlocal says...

We need to do protest to keep the lights on!. I must also mention that i travel around the town on my way home and have been seeing at least 6 police on foot on my way but this week so far I have seen none
We need to do protest to keep the lights on!. I must also mention that i travel around the town on my way home and have been seeing at least 6 police on foot on my way but this week so far I have seen none intrestedlocal
  • Score: 12

2:29pm Fri 11 Jul 14

Mohammad Akbar says...

intrestedlocal wrote:
We need to do protest to keep the lights on!. I must also mention that i travel around the town on my way home and have been seeing at least 6 police on foot on my way but this week so far I have seen none
Protest you must be joking the people of Colchester are too fat and lazy to do anything that's why the town is in such a mess.
[quote][p][bold]intrestedlocal[/bold] wrote: We need to do protest to keep the lights on!. I must also mention that i travel around the town on my way home and have been seeing at least 6 police on foot on my way but this week so far I have seen none[/p][/quote]Protest you must be joking the people of Colchester are too fat and lazy to do anything that's why the town is in such a mess. Mohammad Akbar
  • Score: -37

3:35pm Fri 11 Jul 14

greenbroker says...

There were less murders in Colchester than there are now. Sure the population has increased, but there was no CCTV then.

CCTV encourages criminals to operate where they don't exist.

For those complainers, how much would it cost to provide HD CCTV in every street within the Colchester Borough?

A lot of residents in the Borough live where there's no CCTV or street lighting.
There were less murders in Colchester than there are now. Sure the population has increased, but there was no CCTV then. CCTV encourages criminals to operate where they don't exist. For those complainers, how much would it cost to provide HD CCTV in every street within the Colchester Borough? A lot of residents in the Borough live where there's no CCTV or street lighting. greenbroker
  • Score: -8

3:58pm Fri 11 Jul 14

SOMETHING2SAY says...

Theres not a book for Jim , as his murder did not gather worldwide interest........ Nahid , on the otherhand , ( rip) ..has got a book........but bet you its there due to politics !!!
Theres not a book for Jim , as his murder did not gather worldwide interest........ Nahid , on the otherhand , ( rip) ..has got a book........but bet you its there due to politics !!! SOMETHING2SAY
  • Score: 52

4:48pm Fri 11 Jul 14

Angry of Lexden says...

intrestedlocal wrote:
We need to do protest to keep the lights on!. I must also mention that i travel around the town on my way home and have been seeing at least 6 police on foot on my way but this week so far I have seen none
Inerestedlocal, suggestion let's all email the mp who is paid a vast sum of money to represent our interests. We could ask why he voted against a move to reduce knife crime.
[quote][p][bold]intrestedlocal[/bold] wrote: We need to do protest to keep the lights on!. I must also mention that i travel around the town on my way home and have been seeing at least 6 police on foot on my way but this week so far I have seen none[/p][/quote]Inerestedlocal, suggestion let's all email the mp who is paid a vast sum of money to represent our interests. We could ask why he voted against a move to reduce knife crime. Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 11

5:05pm Fri 11 Jul 14

Angry of Lexden says...

sam vines wrote:
totallyfootball wrote:
Time to resign Russell, you are useless and unfit for purpose, what have you ever done for the good of this town?
Unfortunately our local MP is not at fault unless one his constituents' has complained about the CCTV not working then he is at fault for not doing his duty to publicly find out why its not.

Who is at fault is the Colchester councillor who has sat at the divvying up of council tax payers money claiming they needed a share of it for the CCTV system they are responsible for when its quite clearly not working. I would hope an independent audit will look at how long the cameras have been broken and if its more than 3 months then criminal charges are brought against the councillor for failing to manage his department and defrauding the council tax payer.

We are forced to pay for a system we expect it to be working and if its not working we should be informed when it will be fixed.
Oh come on Sam, at best your defence of our mp is blind loyalty. The reality is that since he voted against the move to reduce knife crime, he's disappeared off the radar. Can't imagine why, or could it be he realised he let us all down. Now to the point, our mp should perhaps have taken a lead. Maybe he could have intervened on the street light situation, and put pressure on ECC to turn them back on while the stabbing rate continues to rise. Now I'm being silly, our mp would be more likely to say we should all stay indoors when it's dark. And if course he would make this grand announcement in the gaz and cs with lots of photos of his royalness.
[quote][p][bold]sam vines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]totallyfootball[/bold] wrote: Time to resign Russell, you are useless and unfit for purpose, what have you ever done for the good of this town?[/p][/quote]Unfortunately our local MP is not at fault unless one his constituents' has complained about the CCTV not working then he is at fault for not doing his duty to publicly find out why its not. Who is at fault is the Colchester councillor who has sat at the divvying up of council tax payers money claiming they needed a share of it for the CCTV system they are responsible for when its quite clearly not working. I would hope an independent audit will look at how long the cameras have been broken and if its more than 3 months then criminal charges are brought against the councillor for failing to manage his department and defrauding the council tax payer. We are forced to pay for a system we expect it to be working and if its not working we should be informed when it will be fixed.[/p][/quote]Oh come on Sam, at best your defence of our mp is blind loyalty. The reality is that since he voted against the move to reduce knife crime, he's disappeared off the radar. Can't imagine why, or could it be he realised he let us all down. Now to the point, our mp should perhaps have taken a lead. Maybe he could have intervened on the street light situation, and put pressure on ECC to turn them back on while the stabbing rate continues to rise. Now I'm being silly, our mp would be more likely to say we should all stay indoors when it's dark. And if course he would make this grand announcement in the gaz and cs with lots of photos of his royalness. Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 7

5:19pm Fri 11 Jul 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Steve1210 wrote:
Put it another way, if the CCTV was working correctly in that area, there is probably a 95% chance the killer would have been identified.

In this day and age the cost of 'acceptable CCTV coverage' (not necessarily HD quality) is fairly low, and needs further investment for public safety - something which seriously needs to be looked at.

As for the Castle Park CCTV, the image quality is shocking, and with it being in the town centre, maybe more money should be spent to upgrade it beyond 2005 camera phone quality.

With the lights being turned off, I hope that nothing else happens in the coming weeks, otherwise the blood won't just be on the hands of the killers.

Possession of a knife should mean an instant jail term, deter people carrying them at all costs... If you go equipped to kill, you should be treated like a potential murderer. There is absolutely NO reason to carry a knife.
Agree with you Steve, but did you know the mp who represents Colchesterians very recently voted against a change in the law to reduce knife crime?
[quote][p][bold]Steve1210[/bold] wrote: Put it another way, if the CCTV was working correctly in that area, there is probably a 95% chance the killer would have been identified. In this day and age the cost of 'acceptable CCTV coverage' (not necessarily HD quality) is fairly low, and needs further investment for public safety - something which seriously needs to be looked at. As for the Castle Park CCTV, the image quality is shocking, and with it being in the town centre, maybe more money should be spent to upgrade it beyond 2005 camera phone quality. With the lights being turned off, I hope that nothing else happens in the coming weeks, otherwise the blood won't just be on the hands of the killers. Possession of a knife should mean an instant jail term, deter people carrying them at all costs... If you go equipped to kill, you should be treated like a potential murderer. There is absolutely NO reason to carry a knife.[/p][/quote]Agree with you Steve, but did you know the mp who represents Colchesterians very recently voted against a change in the law to reduce knife crime? Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 11

6:45pm Fri 11 Jul 14

pantsontoast says...

Put the bloody street lights back on for the whole of colchester why do we pay council tax if the money does not get spent on going towards the lighting they are there for a reason so switch them on, all the council ever do is waste our Money like a 2million pound bus stop that no one wanted but yet a killer is on the loose and they won't even spend the money on street light.
Colchester council and Essex county council are useless always have been always will be they are completely incompetent and don't have the safety of people who live here in mind.
Let's get a petition going to get lights back on
Put the bloody street lights back on for the whole of colchester why do we pay council tax if the money does not get spent on going towards the lighting they are there for a reason so switch them on, all the council ever do is waste our Money like a 2million pound bus stop that no one wanted but yet a killer is on the loose and they won't even spend the money on street light. Colchester council and Essex county council are useless always have been always will be they are completely incompetent and don't have the safety of people who live here in mind. Let's get a petition going to get lights back on pantsontoast
  • Score: 22

10:58pm Fri 11 Jul 14

pantsontoast says...

Bob Russell listen to what the people of colchester want get the street lights working and all cctv fixed and upgraded you useless **** if not then do the honourable thing and **** off
Bob Russell listen to what the people of colchester want get the street lights working and all cctv fixed and upgraded you useless **** if not then do the honourable thing and **** off pantsontoast
  • Score: 8

11:18pm Fri 11 Jul 14

Mohammad Akbar says...

SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
Theres not a book for Jim , as his murder did not gather worldwide interest........ Nahid , on the otherhand , ( rip) ..has got a book........but bet you its there due to politics !!!
What are you trying to say?
[quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: Theres not a book for Jim , as his murder did not gather worldwide interest........ Nahid , on the otherhand , ( rip) ..has got a book........but bet you its there due to politics !!![/p][/quote]What are you trying to say? Mohammad Akbar
  • Score: -29

11:21pm Fri 11 Jul 14

Cllr Martin Hunt says...

Please can we get this quite straight. Colchester Council does not own and operate any CCTV cameras outside the town centre and never has. These cameras are nothing to do with Colchester Borough Council.
Please can we get this quite straight. Colchester Council does not own and operate any CCTV cameras outside the town centre and never has. These cameras are nothing to do with Colchester Borough Council. Cllr Martin Hunt
  • Score: -40

11:42pm Fri 11 Jul 14

Boris says...

Mohammad Akbar wrote:
SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
Theres not a book for Jim , as his murder did not gather worldwide interest........ Nahid , on the otherhand , ( rip) ..has got a book........but bet you its there due to politics !!!
What are you trying to say?
Something2say is clearly very confused. Nahid was a student at the University, and it was the University which set up the book of condolence, and quite right too.
Jim was just an ordinary private citizen, not a member of any large organisation as far as we know. So who would have set up a book of condolence for him?
Anyway, the important thing is to find the killer or killers.
[quote][p][bold]Mohammad Akbar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: Theres not a book for Jim , as his murder did not gather worldwide interest........ Nahid , on the otherhand , ( rip) ..has got a book........but bet you its there due to politics !!![/p][/quote]What are you trying to say?[/p][/quote]Something2say is clearly very confused. Nahid was a student at the University, and it was the University which set up the book of condolence, and quite right too. Jim was just an ordinary private citizen, not a member of any large organisation as far as we know. So who would have set up a book of condolence for him? Anyway, the important thing is to find the killer or killers. Boris
  • Score: -37

11:49pm Fri 11 Jul 14

Boris says...

Angry of Lexden wrote:
intrestedlocal wrote:
We need to do protest to keep the lights on!. I must also mention that i travel around the town on my way home and have been seeing at least 6 police on foot on my way but this week so far I have seen none
Inerestedlocal, suggestion let's all email the mp who is paid a vast sum of money to represent our interests. We could ask why he voted against a move to reduce knife crime.
You have obviously already sent your e-mail. What reply did you get? In my experience, Bob answers e-mails pretty promptly.
And you say he, a backbench MP, is paid "a vast sum of money". Really?
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]intrestedlocal[/bold] wrote: We need to do protest to keep the lights on!. I must also mention that i travel around the town on my way home and have been seeing at least 6 police on foot on my way but this week so far I have seen none[/p][/quote]Inerestedlocal, suggestion let's all email the mp who is paid a vast sum of money to represent our interests. We could ask why he voted against a move to reduce knife crime.[/p][/quote]You have obviously already sent your e-mail. What reply did you get? In my experience, Bob answers e-mails pretty promptly. And you say he, a backbench MP, is paid "a vast sum of money". Really? Boris
  • Score: -36

11:49pm Fri 11 Jul 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Cllr Martin Hunt wrote:
Please can we get this quite straight. Colchester Council does not own and operate any CCTV cameras outside the town centre and never has. These cameras are nothing to do with Colchester Borough Council.
Well councilor martin hunt, does that make it better? Or are you and the other elected members who enjoy surprising allowance monies, just saying not our responsibility. For gods sake will none of you come out of hiding and take some sort of positive action to regain direction and confidence for Colchester.
[quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote: Please can we get this quite straight. Colchester Council does not own and operate any CCTV cameras outside the town centre and never has. These cameras are nothing to do with Colchester Borough Council.[/p][/quote]Well councilor martin hunt, does that make it better? Or are you and the other elected members who enjoy surprising allowance monies, just saying not our responsibility. For gods sake will none of you come out of hiding and take some sort of positive action to regain direction and confidence for Colchester. Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 16

11:57pm Fri 11 Jul 14

Boris says...

Angry of Lexden wrote:
Cllr Martin Hunt wrote:
Please can we get this quite straight. Colchester Council does not own and operate any CCTV cameras outside the town centre and never has. These cameras are nothing to do with Colchester Borough Council.
Well councilor martin hunt, does that make it better? Or are you and the other elected members who enjoy surprising allowance monies, just saying not our responsibility. For gods sake will none of you come out of hiding and take some sort of positive action to regain direction and confidence for Colchester.
What is this drivel about coming out of hiding? You can e-mail Martin Hunt any time, and he, like Bob Russell, is pretty good at answering e-mails promptly. You can look up his address on the CBC website and then go and ring his doorbell if you want to speak to him face to face.
By all means oppose anyone you like, but don't accuse them of hiding from you, when they aren't.
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote: Please can we get this quite straight. Colchester Council does not own and operate any CCTV cameras outside the town centre and never has. These cameras are nothing to do with Colchester Borough Council.[/p][/quote]Well councilor martin hunt, does that make it better? Or are you and the other elected members who enjoy surprising allowance monies, just saying not our responsibility. For gods sake will none of you come out of hiding and take some sort of positive action to regain direction and confidence for Colchester.[/p][/quote]What is this drivel about coming out of hiding? You can e-mail Martin Hunt any time, and he, like Bob Russell, is pretty good at answering e-mails promptly. You can look up his address on the CBC website and then go and ring his doorbell if you want to speak to him face to face. By all means oppose anyone you like, but don't accuse them of hiding from you, when they aren't. Boris
  • Score: -40

12:03am Sat 12 Jul 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Boris wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
intrestedlocal wrote:
We need to do protest to keep the lights on!. I must also mention that i travel around the town on my way home and have been seeing at least 6 police on foot on my way but this week so far I have seen none
Inerestedlocal, suggestion let's all email the mp who is paid a vast sum of money to represent our interests. We could ask why he voted against a move to reduce knife crime.
You have obviously already sent your e-mail. What reply did you get? In my experience, Bob answers e-mails pretty promptly.
And you say he, a backbench MP, is paid "a vast sum of money". Really?
Actually I have not sent it yet. I want to get it right in terms of the result we need. At the moment I'm extremely cross with his thin performance as our mp. I will sleep on it and pick up the pen tomorrow. Where his take where money and benefits are concerned, I will take time Monday and do another check. Last time I looked at it the total. Including "expenses" was more than reasonable. I will send a note to Wendy B and ask her to publish it, or do you think it will end up on the same spike my other notes re bob are held.
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]intrestedlocal[/bold] wrote: We need to do protest to keep the lights on!. I must also mention that i travel around the town on my way home and have been seeing at least 6 police on foot on my way but this week so far I have seen none[/p][/quote]Inerestedlocal, suggestion let's all email the mp who is paid a vast sum of money to represent our interests. We could ask why he voted against a move to reduce knife crime.[/p][/quote]You have obviously already sent your e-mail. What reply did you get? In my experience, Bob answers e-mails pretty promptly. And you say he, a backbench MP, is paid "a vast sum of money". Really?[/p][/quote]Actually I have not sent it yet. I want to get it right in terms of the result we need. At the moment I'm extremely cross with his thin performance as our mp. I will sleep on it and pick up the pen tomorrow. Where his take where money and benefits are concerned, I will take time Monday and do another check. Last time I looked at it the total. Including "expenses" was more than reasonable. I will send a note to Wendy B and ask her to publish it, or do you think it will end up on the same spike my other notes re bob are held. Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 6

12:15am Sat 12 Jul 14

Boris says...

totallyfootball wrote:
Time to resign Russell, you are useless and unfit for purpose, what have you ever done for the good of this town?
He had a big influence in saving CUFC in the 1990s, which ought to impress you, if you are a U's fan.
If you don't like Bob Russell, vote against him next May.
[quote][p][bold]totallyfootball[/bold] wrote: Time to resign Russell, you are useless and unfit for purpose, what have you ever done for the good of this town?[/p][/quote]He had a big influence in saving CUFC in the 1990s, which ought to impress you, if you are a U's fan. If you don't like Bob Russell, vote against him next May. Boris
  • Score: -40

12:22am Sat 12 Jul 14

Boris says...

Angry of Lexden wrote:
Boris wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
intrestedlocal wrote:
We need to do protest to keep the lights on!. I must also mention that i travel around the town on my way home and have been seeing at least 6 police on foot on my way but this week so far I have seen none
Inerestedlocal, suggestion let's all email the mp who is paid a vast sum of money to represent our interests. We could ask why he voted against a move to reduce knife crime.
You have obviously already sent your e-mail. What reply did you get? In my experience, Bob answers e-mails pretty promptly.
And you say he, a backbench MP, is paid "a vast sum of money". Really?
Actually I have not sent it yet. I want to get it right in terms of the result we need. At the moment I'm extremely cross with his thin performance as our mp. I will sleep on it and pick up the pen tomorrow. Where his take where money and benefits are concerned, I will take time Monday and do another check. Last time I looked at it the total. Including "expenses" was more than reasonable. I will send a note to Wendy B and ask her to publish it, or do you think it will end up on the same spike my other notes re bob are held.
Angry, it seems that you, like others, are all mouth and no action. You haven't even decided what you want to say to Bob yet. So how can you expect others to follow your example?
But you can do better than that. Phone up the Lib Dem office and book an appointment to see him at his next surgery. Ask him face to face why he toed his party line on knife crime. Then report to us on here on what he tells you.
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]intrestedlocal[/bold] wrote: We need to do protest to keep the lights on!. I must also mention that i travel around the town on my way home and have been seeing at least 6 police on foot on my way but this week so far I have seen none[/p][/quote]Inerestedlocal, suggestion let's all email the mp who is paid a vast sum of money to represent our interests. We could ask why he voted against a move to reduce knife crime.[/p][/quote]You have obviously already sent your e-mail. What reply did you get? In my experience, Bob answers e-mails pretty promptly. And you say he, a backbench MP, is paid "a vast sum of money". Really?[/p][/quote]Actually I have not sent it yet. I want to get it right in terms of the result we need. At the moment I'm extremely cross with his thin performance as our mp. I will sleep on it and pick up the pen tomorrow. Where his take where money and benefits are concerned, I will take time Monday and do another check. Last time I looked at it the total. Including "expenses" was more than reasonable. I will send a note to Wendy B and ask her to publish it, or do you think it will end up on the same spike my other notes re bob are held.[/p][/quote]Angry, it seems that you, like others, are all mouth and no action. You haven't even decided what you want to say to Bob yet. So how can you expect others to follow your example? But you can do better than that. Phone up the Lib Dem office and book an appointment to see him at his next surgery. Ask him face to face why he toed his party line on knife crime. Then report to us on here on what he tells you. Boris
  • Score: -32

12:24am Sat 12 Jul 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Boris wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
Cllr Martin Hunt wrote:
Please can we get this quite straight. Colchester Council does not own and operate any CCTV cameras outside the town centre and never has. These cameras are nothing to do with Colchester Borough Council.
Well councilor martin hunt, does that make it better? Or are you and the other elected members who enjoy surprising allowance monies, just saying not our responsibility. For gods sake will none of you come out of hiding and take some sort of positive action to regain direction and confidence for Colchester.
What is this drivel about coming out of hiding? You can e-mail Martin Hunt any time, and he, like Bob Russell, is pretty good at answering e-mails promptly. You can look up his address on the CBC website and then go and ring his doorbell if you want to speak to him face to face.
By all means oppose anyone you like, but don't accuse them of hiding from you, when they aren't.
Boris, I think you will agree Colchester is experiencing a sort of crisis. And has been for some time. You seem to be saying it's the folk of Colchester's fault for not emailing/calling bob and the councillors to let them know! I should have hoped they would have been aware. I'm not just talking about the terrible murders. The real pity is that, and I might have missed something, but I really can't remember any councilor or bob taking the initiative and any effective action to move us out of swamp of violence and stagnation that Colchester has slid into. Please correct me, and quite a few other citizens if I'm being unfair.
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote: Please can we get this quite straight. Colchester Council does not own and operate any CCTV cameras outside the town centre and never has. These cameras are nothing to do with Colchester Borough Council.[/p][/quote]Well councilor martin hunt, does that make it better? Or are you and the other elected members who enjoy surprising allowance monies, just saying not our responsibility. For gods sake will none of you come out of hiding and take some sort of positive action to regain direction and confidence for Colchester.[/p][/quote]What is this drivel about coming out of hiding? You can e-mail Martin Hunt any time, and he, like Bob Russell, is pretty good at answering e-mails promptly. You can look up his address on the CBC website and then go and ring his doorbell if you want to speak to him face to face. By all means oppose anyone you like, but don't accuse them of hiding from you, when they aren't.[/p][/quote]Boris, I think you will agree Colchester is experiencing a sort of crisis. And has been for some time. You seem to be saying it's the folk of Colchester's fault for not emailing/calling bob and the councillors to let them know! I should have hoped they would have been aware. I'm not just talking about the terrible murders. The real pity is that, and I might have missed something, but I really can't remember any councilor or bob taking the initiative and any effective action to move us out of swamp of violence and stagnation that Colchester has slid into. Please correct me, and quite a few other citizens if I'm being unfair. Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 17

12:27am Sat 12 Jul 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Boris wrote:
totallyfootball wrote:
Time to resign Russell, you are useless and unfit for purpose, what have you ever done for the good of this town?
He had a big influence in saving CUFC in the 1990s, which ought to impress you, if you are a U's fan.
If you don't like Bob Russell, vote against him next May.
Totally, there's a lot of other stuff going on, or perhaps not going on, than football in this town
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]totallyfootball[/bold] wrote: Time to resign Russell, you are useless and unfit for purpose, what have you ever done for the good of this town?[/p][/quote]He had a big influence in saving CUFC in the 1990s, which ought to impress you, if you are a U's fan. If you don't like Bob Russell, vote against him next May.[/p][/quote]Totally, there's a lot of other stuff going on, or perhaps not going on, than football in this town Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 14

12:32am Sat 12 Jul 14

Boris says...

pantsontoast wrote:
Put the bloody street lights back on for the whole of colchester why do we pay council tax if the money does not get spent on going towards the lighting they are there for a reason so switch them on, all the council ever do is waste our Money like a 2million pound bus stop that no one wanted but yet a killer is on the loose and they won't even spend the money on street light.
Colchester council and Essex county council are useless always have been always will be they are completely incompetent and don't have the safety of people who live here in mind.
Let's get a petition going to get lights back on
Go on then, start a petition and then post the link so that we can all sign it.
[quote][p][bold]pantsontoast[/bold] wrote: Put the bloody street lights back on for the whole of colchester why do we pay council tax if the money does not get spent on going towards the lighting they are there for a reason so switch them on, all the council ever do is waste our Money like a 2million pound bus stop that no one wanted but yet a killer is on the loose and they won't even spend the money on street light. Colchester council and Essex county council are useless always have been always will be they are completely incompetent and don't have the safety of people who live here in mind. Let's get a petition going to get lights back on[/p][/quote]Go on then, start a petition and then post the link so that we can all sign it. Boris
  • Score: -3

12:38am Sat 12 Jul 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Boris wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
Boris wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
intrestedlocal wrote:
We need to do protest to keep the lights on!. I must also mention that i travel around the town on my way home and have been seeing at least 6 police on foot on my way but this week so far I have seen none
Inerestedlocal, suggestion let's all email the mp who is paid a vast sum of money to represent our interests. We could ask why he voted against a move to reduce knife crime.
You have obviously already sent your e-mail. What reply did you get? In my experience, Bob answers e-mails pretty promptly.
And you say he, a backbench MP, is paid "a vast sum of money". Really?
Actually I have not sent it yet. I want to get it right in terms of the result we need. At the moment I'm extremely cross with his thin performance as our mp. I will sleep on it and pick up the pen tomorrow. Where his take where money and benefits are concerned, I will take time Monday and do another check. Last time I looked at it the total. Including "expenses" was more than reasonable. I will send a note to Wendy B and ask her to publish it, or do you think it will end up on the same spike my other notes re bob are held.
Angry, it seems that you, like others, are all mouth and no action. You haven't even decided what you want to say to Bob yet. So how can you expect others to follow your example?
But you can do better than that. Phone up the Lib Dem office and book an appointment to see him at his next surgery. Ask him face to face why he toed his party line on knife crime. Then report to us on here on what he tells you.
No problem, but on the condition I take Jay whiston mum and a news reporter of my choice.
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]intrestedlocal[/bold] wrote: We need to do protest to keep the lights on!. I must also mention that i travel around the town on my way home and have been seeing at least 6 police on foot on my way but this week so far I have seen none[/p][/quote]Inerestedlocal, suggestion let's all email the mp who is paid a vast sum of money to represent our interests. We could ask why he voted against a move to reduce knife crime.[/p][/quote]You have obviously already sent your e-mail. What reply did you get? In my experience, Bob answers e-mails pretty promptly. And you say he, a backbench MP, is paid "a vast sum of money". Really?[/p][/quote]Actually I have not sent it yet. I want to get it right in terms of the result we need. At the moment I'm extremely cross with his thin performance as our mp. I will sleep on it and pick up the pen tomorrow. Where his take where money and benefits are concerned, I will take time Monday and do another check. Last time I looked at it the total. Including "expenses" was more than reasonable. I will send a note to Wendy B and ask her to publish it, or do you think it will end up on the same spike my other notes re bob are held.[/p][/quote]Angry, it seems that you, like others, are all mouth and no action. You haven't even decided what you want to say to Bob yet. So how can you expect others to follow your example? But you can do better than that. Phone up the Lib Dem office and book an appointment to see him at his next surgery. Ask him face to face why he toed his party line on knife crime. Then report to us on here on what he tells you.[/p][/quote]No problem, but on the condition I take Jay whiston mum and a news reporter of my choice. Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 16

7:00am Sat 12 Jul 14

shallowJoker says...

There are so many people in this town that are scared of their own shadows that it's a good job the lights have been switched off. Adults saying " Im scared ". whilst paper boys and girls out early morning and in a few months time delivering your evening gazette in the dark just get on with it. People need to man up.
There are so many people in this town that are scared of their own shadows that it's a good job the lights have been switched off. Adults saying " Im scared ". whilst paper boys and girls out early morning and in a few months time delivering your evening gazette in the dark just get on with it. People need to man up. shallowJoker
  • Score: 13

9:39am Sat 12 Jul 14

JohnStang says...

This is appalling. I have been on holiday for the past two weeks and my plane was late so I got into Colchester on the late train coming in at past midnight. I didn't know the lights had been turned back off so I decided to walk back from the station to Riverside where I live. Cowdray Ave was pretty much pitch black so walked into town. It was dead and it was only 12:30 - no police about, not too many of the party goers. Riverside estate was pitch black, nobody around, very quiet and eerie.

After two people have been killed by an unknown assailant, this is disgusting behaviour from the council.
This is appalling. I have been on holiday for the past two weeks and my plane was late so I got into Colchester on the late train coming in at past midnight. I didn't know the lights had been turned back off so I decided to walk back from the station to Riverside where I live. Cowdray Ave was pretty much pitch black so walked into town. It was dead and it was only 12:30 - no police about, not too many of the party goers. Riverside estate was pitch black, nobody around, very quiet and eerie. After two people have been killed by an unknown assailant, this is disgusting behaviour from the council. JohnStang
  • Score: -11

10:24am Sat 12 Jul 14

laterelfort says...

We have street lights historically put in urban areas for reasons of safety and reduction of crime . With recent events and peoples fears the lights out policy may as well be curfew which is not right. Combined with the possibility of falling down a pothole or tripping on a broken curb. How much will the savings be before somebody gets injured as a direct result of this policy and claims. I am sure there are better ways of saving money where the council wastes in other areas. I think the residents of Colchester should start to speak up on this matter as it appears they council are putting our safety and some peoples quality of life at stake over £150K. Action now for lights on! Please
We have street lights historically put in urban areas for reasons of safety and reduction of crime . With recent events and peoples fears the lights out policy may as well be curfew which is not right. Combined with the possibility of falling down a pothole or tripping on a broken curb. How much will the savings be before somebody gets injured as a direct result of this policy and claims. I am sure there are better ways of saving money where the council wastes in other areas. I think the residents of Colchester should start to speak up on this matter as it appears they council are putting our safety and some peoples quality of life at stake over £150K. Action now for lights on! Please laterelfort
  • Score: -2

12:49pm Sat 12 Jul 14

Cllr Martin Hunt says...

Angry of Lexden wrote:
Boris wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
Cllr Martin Hunt wrote: Please can we get this quite straight. Colchester Council does not own and operate any CCTV cameras outside the town centre and never has. These cameras are nothing to do with Colchester Borough Council.
Well councilor martin hunt, does that make it better? Or are you and the other elected members who enjoy surprising allowance monies, just saying not our responsibility. For gods sake will none of you come out of hiding and take some sort of positive action to regain direction and confidence for Colchester.
What is this drivel about coming out of hiding? You can e-mail Martin Hunt any time, and he, like Bob Russell, is pretty good at answering e-mails promptly. You can look up his address on the CBC website and then go and ring his doorbell if you want to speak to him face to face. By all means oppose anyone you like, but don't accuse them of hiding from you, when they aren't.
Boris, I think you will agree Colchester is experiencing a sort of crisis. And has been for some time. You seem to be saying it's the folk of Colchester's fault for not emailing/calling bob and the councillors to let them know! I should have hoped they would have been aware. I'm not just talking about the terrible murders. The real pity is that, and I might have missed something, but I really can't remember any councilor or bob taking the initiative and any effective action to move us out of swamp of violence and stagnation that Colchester has slid into. Please correct me, and quite a few other citizens if I'm being unfair.
If I have the power to get Colchester out of this 'swamp of violence' I will do, but I am only Leader of the Council. I am not the police chief or the judge in the appeal court who found against the council when we tried to limit the number of licensed premises and their opening times. You obviously have an idea of what you think 'effective action' would be. I would appreciate your suggestions.
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote: Please can we get this quite straight. Colchester Council does not own and operate any CCTV cameras outside the town centre and never has. These cameras are nothing to do with Colchester Borough Council.[/p][/quote]Well councilor martin hunt, does that make it better? Or are you and the other elected members who enjoy surprising allowance monies, just saying not our responsibility. For gods sake will none of you come out of hiding and take some sort of positive action to regain direction and confidence for Colchester.[/p][/quote]What is this drivel about coming out of hiding? You can e-mail Martin Hunt any time, and he, like Bob Russell, is pretty good at answering e-mails promptly. You can look up his address on the CBC website and then go and ring his doorbell if you want to speak to him face to face. By all means oppose anyone you like, but don't accuse them of hiding from you, when they aren't.[/p][/quote]Boris, I think you will agree Colchester is experiencing a sort of crisis. And has been for some time. You seem to be saying it's the folk of Colchester's fault for not emailing/calling bob and the councillors to let them know! I should have hoped they would have been aware. I'm not just talking about the terrible murders. The real pity is that, and I might have missed something, but I really can't remember any councilor or bob taking the initiative and any effective action to move us out of swamp of violence and stagnation that Colchester has slid into. Please correct me, and quite a few other citizens if I'm being unfair.[/p][/quote]If I have the power to get Colchester out of this 'swamp of violence' I will do, but I am only Leader of the Council. I am not the police chief or the judge in the appeal court who found against the council when we tried to limit the number of licensed premises and their opening times. You obviously have an idea of what you think 'effective action' would be. I would appreciate your suggestions. Cllr Martin Hunt
  • Score: -44

2:09pm Sat 12 Jul 14

SOMETHING2SAY says...

Boris wrote:
Mohammad Akbar wrote:
SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
Theres not a book for Jim , as his murder did not gather worldwide interest........ Nahid , on the otherhand , ( rip) ..has got a book........but bet you its there due to politics !!!
What are you trying to say?
Something2say is clearly very confused. Nahid was a student at the University, and it was the University which set up the book of condolence, and quite right too.
Jim was just an ordinary private citizen, not a member of any large organisation as far as we know. So who would have set up a book of condolence for him?
Anyway, the important thing is to find the killer or killers.
What im saying is this......with the global attention to this murder , and the fact that a rascist motive for the murder has been played down , the top knobs signing the book are trying to keep the peace
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mohammad Akbar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: Theres not a book for Jim , as his murder did not gather worldwide interest........ Nahid , on the otherhand , ( rip) ..has got a book........but bet you its there due to politics !!![/p][/quote]What are you trying to say?[/p][/quote]Something2say is clearly very confused. Nahid was a student at the University, and it was the University which set up the book of condolence, and quite right too. Jim was just an ordinary private citizen, not a member of any large organisation as far as we know. So who would have set up a book of condolence for him? Anyway, the important thing is to find the killer or killers.[/p][/quote]What im saying is this......with the global attention to this murder , and the fact that a rascist motive for the murder has been played down , the top knobs signing the book are trying to keep the peace SOMETHING2SAY
  • Score: 32

2:49pm Sat 12 Jul 14

William George says...

Boris wrote:
totallyfootball wrote:
Time to resign Russell, you are useless and unfit for purpose, what have you ever done for the good of this town?
He had a big influence in saving CUFC in the 1990s, which ought to impress you, if you are a U's fan.
If you don't like Bob Russell, vote against him next May.
Do I agree with all what our MP does? The answer to that question is "No"
But our MP. Bob Russell has made good efforts in his trying and many succeeding for the greet issues for us and Colchester.

We rightfully complain about our councillors their quantity of sixty who are supposed to speak on our behalf. They are a majority of who are making bad attempts to, if they are trying at all because mostly fail.

The degree of Sir Bob Russell does show a better quality in his efforts he makes.
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]totallyfootball[/bold] wrote: Time to resign Russell, you are useless and unfit for purpose, what have you ever done for the good of this town?[/p][/quote]He had a big influence in saving CUFC in the 1990s, which ought to impress you, if you are a U's fan. If you don't like Bob Russell, vote against him next May.[/p][/quote]Do I agree with all what our MP does? The answer to that question is "No" But our MP. Bob Russell has made good efforts in his trying and many succeeding for the greet issues for us and Colchester. We rightfully complain about our councillors their quantity of sixty who are supposed to speak on our behalf. They are a majority of who are making bad attempts to, if they are trying at all because mostly fail. The degree of Sir Bob Russell does show a better quality in his efforts he makes. William George
  • Score: -20

3:24pm Sat 12 Jul 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Cllr Martin Hunt wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
Boris wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
Cllr Martin Hunt wrote: Please can we get this quite straight. Colchester Council does not own and operate any CCTV cameras outside the town centre and never has. These cameras are nothing to do with Colchester Borough Council.
Well councilor martin hunt, does that make it better? Or are you and the other elected members who enjoy surprising allowance monies, just saying not our responsibility. For gods sake will none of you come out of hiding and take some sort of positive action to regain direction and confidence for Colchester.
What is this drivel about coming out of hiding? You can e-mail Martin Hunt any time, and he, like Bob Russell, is pretty good at answering e-mails promptly. You can look up his address on the CBC website and then go and ring his doorbell if you want to speak to him face to face. By all means oppose anyone you like, but don't accuse them of hiding from you, when they aren't.
Boris, I think you will agree Colchester is experiencing a sort of crisis. And has been for some time. You seem to be saying it's the folk of Colchester's fault for not emailing/calling bob and the councillors to let them know! I should have hoped they would have been aware. I'm not just talking about the terrible murders. The real pity is that, and I might have missed something, but I really can't remember any councilor or bob taking the initiative and any effective action to move us out of swamp of violence and stagnation that Colchester has slid into. Please correct me, and quite a few other citizens if I'm being unfair.
If I have the power to get Colchester out of this 'swamp of violence' I will do, but I am only Leader of the Council. I am not the police chief or the judge in the appeal court who found against the council when we tried to limit the number of licensed premises and their opening times. You obviously have an idea of what you think 'effective action' would be. I would appreciate your suggestions.
Thanks, cllr Hunt, yes you can help. How do we cut through the bureaucracy fast? I presume at ECC. Where there's a will there's a way. I have nothing to lose, other than to look a pratt if I get it wrong. I can see you could risk losing credibility. So give us a hint - do we set up an email petition? Arrange for the real press and local telly to a candle lit vigil, at the scene of one of the stabbings? Or maybe just turn up at ECC and do a silent picket. Anyone else out there got any practical and legal ideas to do this fast?
[quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote: Please can we get this quite straight. Colchester Council does not own and operate any CCTV cameras outside the town centre and never has. These cameras are nothing to do with Colchester Borough Council.[/p][/quote]Well councilor martin hunt, does that make it better? Or are you and the other elected members who enjoy surprising allowance monies, just saying not our responsibility. For gods sake will none of you come out of hiding and take some sort of positive action to regain direction and confidence for Colchester.[/p][/quote]What is this drivel about coming out of hiding? You can e-mail Martin Hunt any time, and he, like Bob Russell, is pretty good at answering e-mails promptly. You can look up his address on the CBC website and then go and ring his doorbell if you want to speak to him face to face. By all means oppose anyone you like, but don't accuse them of hiding from you, when they aren't.[/p][/quote]Boris, I think you will agree Colchester is experiencing a sort of crisis. And has been for some time. You seem to be saying it's the folk of Colchester's fault for not emailing/calling bob and the councillors to let them know! I should have hoped they would have been aware. I'm not just talking about the terrible murders. The real pity is that, and I might have missed something, but I really can't remember any councilor or bob taking the initiative and any effective action to move us out of swamp of violence and stagnation that Colchester has slid into. Please correct me, and quite a few other citizens if I'm being unfair.[/p][/quote]If I have the power to get Colchester out of this 'swamp of violence' I will do, but I am only Leader of the Council. I am not the police chief or the judge in the appeal court who found against the council when we tried to limit the number of licensed premises and their opening times. You obviously have an idea of what you think 'effective action' would be. I would appreciate your suggestions.[/p][/quote]Thanks, cllr Hunt, yes you can help. How do we cut through the bureaucracy fast? I presume at ECC. Where there's a will there's a way. I have nothing to lose, other than to look a pratt if I get it wrong. I can see you could risk losing credibility. So give us a hint - do we set up an email petition? Arrange for the real press and local telly to a candle lit vigil, at the scene of one of the stabbings? Or maybe just turn up at ECC and do a silent picket. Anyone else out there got any practical and legal ideas to do this fast? Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 11

4:25pm Sat 12 Jul 14

Opalstar says...

JohnStang wrote:
This is appalling. I have been on holiday for the past two weeks and my plane was late so I got into Colchester on the late train coming in at past midnight. I didn't know the lights had been turned back off so I decided to walk back from the station to Riverside where I live. Cowdray Ave was pretty much pitch black so walked into town. It was dead and it was only 12:30 - no police about, not too many of the party goers. Riverside estate was pitch black, nobody around, very quiet and eerie.

After two people have been killed by an unknown assailant, this is disgusting behaviour from the council.
I too live on the Riverside Estate, and am now worried when I walk back from the station after visiting family in London or from local events that end near to midnight. Street lights do not perhaps prevent crime, but they do give people a feeling of greater safety. I cannot understand Essex County Council's position on this switch off.
I have emailed both local and Essex council, and signed online petitions to try and change the policy. I am willing to take whatever action is possible, to get the lights back on, so I and others can be and feel a little safer.
Any ideas?
[quote][p][bold]JohnStang[/bold] wrote: This is appalling. I have been on holiday for the past two weeks and my plane was late so I got into Colchester on the late train coming in at past midnight. I didn't know the lights had been turned back off so I decided to walk back from the station to Riverside where I live. Cowdray Ave was pretty much pitch black so walked into town. It was dead and it was only 12:30 - no police about, not too many of the party goers. Riverside estate was pitch black, nobody around, very quiet and eerie. After two people have been killed by an unknown assailant, this is disgusting behaviour from the council.[/p][/quote]I too live on the Riverside Estate, and am now worried when I walk back from the station after visiting family in London or from local events that end near to midnight. Street lights do not perhaps prevent crime, but they do give people a feeling of greater safety. I cannot understand Essex County Council's position on this switch off. I have emailed both local and Essex council, and signed online petitions to try and change the policy. I am willing to take whatever action is possible, to get the lights back on, so I and others can be and feel a little safer. Any ideas? Opalstar
  • Score: -4

9:47pm Sat 12 Jul 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Angry of Lexden wrote:
Cllr Martin Hunt wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
Boris wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
Cllr Martin Hunt wrote: Please can we get this quite straight. Colchester Council does not own and operate any CCTV cameras outside the town centre and never has. These cameras are nothing to do with Colchester Borough Council.
Well councilor martin hunt, does that make it better? Or are you and the other elected members who enjoy surprising allowance monies, just saying not our responsibility. For gods sake will none of you come out of hiding and take some sort of positive action to regain direction and confidence for Colchester.
What is this drivel about coming out of hiding? You can e-mail Martin Hunt any time, and he, like Bob Russell, is pretty good at answering e-mails promptly. You can look up his address on the CBC website and then go and ring his doorbell if you want to speak to him face to face. By all means oppose anyone you like, but don't accuse them of hiding from you, when they aren't.
Boris, I think you will agree Colchester is experiencing a sort of crisis. And has been for some time. You seem to be saying it's the folk of Colchester's fault for not emailing/calling bob and the councillors to let them know! I should have hoped they would have been aware. I'm not just talking about the terrible murders. The real pity is that, and I might have missed something, but I really can't remember any councilor or bob taking the initiative and any effective action to move us out of swamp of violence and stagnation that Colchester has slid into. Please correct me, and quite a few other citizens if I'm being unfair.
If I have the power to get Colchester out of this 'swamp of violence' I will do, but I am only Leader of the Council. I am not the police chief or the judge in the appeal court who found against the council when we tried to limit the number of licensed premises and their opening times. You obviously have an idea of what you think 'effective action' would be. I would appreciate your suggestions.
Thanks, cllr Hunt, yes you can help. How do we cut through the bureaucracy fast? I presume at ECC. Where there's a will there's a way. I have nothing to lose, other than to look a pratt if I get it wrong. I can see you could risk losing credibility. So give us a hint - do we set up an email petition? Arrange for the real press and local telly to a candle lit vigil, at the scene of one of the stabbings? Or maybe just turn up at ECC and do a silent picket. Anyone else out there got any practical and legal ideas to do this fast?
Just re-read my note above and it might be more effective without the candles - ie pitch dark. If we could get BBC local news to record with no lights it would give more an idea of why folk are terrified.
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote: Please can we get this quite straight. Colchester Council does not own and operate any CCTV cameras outside the town centre and never has. These cameras are nothing to do with Colchester Borough Council.[/p][/quote]Well councilor martin hunt, does that make it better? Or are you and the other elected members who enjoy surprising allowance monies, just saying not our responsibility. For gods sake will none of you come out of hiding and take some sort of positive action to regain direction and confidence for Colchester.[/p][/quote]What is this drivel about coming out of hiding? You can e-mail Martin Hunt any time, and he, like Bob Russell, is pretty good at answering e-mails promptly. You can look up his address on the CBC website and then go and ring his doorbell if you want to speak to him face to face. By all means oppose anyone you like, but don't accuse them of hiding from you, when they aren't.[/p][/quote]Boris, I think you will agree Colchester is experiencing a sort of crisis. And has been for some time. You seem to be saying it's the folk of Colchester's fault for not emailing/calling bob and the councillors to let them know! I should have hoped they would have been aware. I'm not just talking about the terrible murders. The real pity is that, and I might have missed something, but I really can't remember any councilor or bob taking the initiative and any effective action to move us out of swamp of violence and stagnation that Colchester has slid into. Please correct me, and quite a few other citizens if I'm being unfair.[/p][/quote]If I have the power to get Colchester out of this 'swamp of violence' I will do, but I am only Leader of the Council. I am not the police chief or the judge in the appeal court who found against the council when we tried to limit the number of licensed premises and their opening times. You obviously have an idea of what you think 'effective action' would be. I would appreciate your suggestions.[/p][/quote]Thanks, cllr Hunt, yes you can help. How do we cut through the bureaucracy fast? I presume at ECC. Where there's a will there's a way. I have nothing to lose, other than to look a pratt if I get it wrong. I can see you could risk losing credibility. So give us a hint - do we set up an email petition? Arrange for the real press and local telly to a candle lit vigil, at the scene of one of the stabbings? Or maybe just turn up at ECC and do a silent picket. Anyone else out there got any practical and legal ideas to do this fast?[/p][/quote]Just re-read my note above and it might be more effective without the candles - ie pitch dark. If we could get BBC local news to record with no lights it would give more an idea of why folk are terrified. Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 1

10:46pm Sat 12 Jul 14

laterelfort says...

What good are security cameras without street lights unless they are infra-red or have night vision. I expect they probably have limitations too, by all accounts know body wants to pay for them . I guess now, everybody will want to know are they going to be replaced or not?. After all they have known about it for sometime now.
What good are security cameras without street lights unless they are infra-red or have night vision. I expect they probably have limitations too, by all accounts know body wants to pay for them . I guess now, everybody will want to know are they going to be replaced or not?. After all they have known about it for sometime now. laterelfort
  • Score: -2

11:03pm Sat 12 Jul 14

Cllr Martin Hunt says...

Angry of Lexden wrote:
Cllr Martin Hunt wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
Boris wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
Cllr Martin Hunt wrote: Please can we get this quite straight. Colchester Council does not own and operate any CCTV cameras outside the town centre and never has. These cameras are nothing to do with Colchester Borough Council.
Well councilor martin hunt, does that make it better? Or are you and the other elected members who enjoy surprising allowance monies, just saying not our responsibility. For gods sake will none of you come out of hiding and take some sort of positive action to regain direction and confidence for Colchester.
What is this drivel about coming out of hiding? You can e-mail Martin Hunt any time, and he, like Bob Russell, is pretty good at answering e-mails promptly. You can look up his address on the CBC website and then go and ring his doorbell if you want to speak to him face to face. By all means oppose anyone you like, but don't accuse them of hiding from you, when they aren't.
Boris, I think you will agree Colchester is experiencing a sort of crisis. And has been for some time. You seem to be saying it's the folk of Colchester's fault for not emailing/calling bob and the councillors to let them know! I should have hoped they would have been aware. I'm not just talking about the terrible murders. The real pity is that, and I might have missed something, but I really can't remember any councilor or bob taking the initiative and any effective action to move us out of swamp of violence and stagnation that Colchester has slid into. Please correct me, and quite a few other citizens if I'm being unfair.
If I have the power to get Colchester out of this 'swamp of violence' I will do, but I am only Leader of the Council. I am not the police chief or the judge in the appeal court who found against the council when we tried to limit the number of licensed premises and their opening times. You obviously have an idea of what you think 'effective action' would be. I would appreciate your suggestions.
Thanks, cllr Hunt, yes you can help. How do we cut through the bureaucracy fast? I presume at ECC. Where there's a will there's a way. I have nothing to lose, other than to look a pratt if I get it wrong. I can see you could risk losing credibility. So give us a hint - do we set up an email petition? Arrange for the real press and local telly to a candle lit vigil, at the scene of one of the stabbings? Or maybe just turn up at ECC and do a silent picket. Anyone else out there got any practical and legal ideas to do this fast?
If they are matters that concern ECC I would turn up in force at the next Full Essex County Council meeting, protest outside, demand to see whichever portfolio holder deals with the matter you are concerned about. appoint a representative to Have Your Say which I believe you can now do at County Hall. But first I would ask to meet my county councillor to make sure he/she supports my case. The publicity of a mass protest will promote publicity and might make them think rather more than postings here. It is difficult to change decisions, but not impossible. And stay legal of course. You can do the same at CBC of course if it is a matter concerning the Borough Council. But don't waste your time complaining to people who haven't got the power to change what you want changing.
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote: Please can we get this quite straight. Colchester Council does not own and operate any CCTV cameras outside the town centre and never has. These cameras are nothing to do with Colchester Borough Council.[/p][/quote]Well councilor martin hunt, does that make it better? Or are you and the other elected members who enjoy surprising allowance monies, just saying not our responsibility. For gods sake will none of you come out of hiding and take some sort of positive action to regain direction and confidence for Colchester.[/p][/quote]What is this drivel about coming out of hiding? You can e-mail Martin Hunt any time, and he, like Bob Russell, is pretty good at answering e-mails promptly. You can look up his address on the CBC website and then go and ring his doorbell if you want to speak to him face to face. By all means oppose anyone you like, but don't accuse them of hiding from you, when they aren't.[/p][/quote]Boris, I think you will agree Colchester is experiencing a sort of crisis. And has been for some time. You seem to be saying it's the folk of Colchester's fault for not emailing/calling bob and the councillors to let them know! I should have hoped they would have been aware. I'm not just talking about the terrible murders. The real pity is that, and I might have missed something, but I really can't remember any councilor or bob taking the initiative and any effective action to move us out of swamp of violence and stagnation that Colchester has slid into. Please correct me, and quite a few other citizens if I'm being unfair.[/p][/quote]If I have the power to get Colchester out of this 'swamp of violence' I will do, but I am only Leader of the Council. I am not the police chief or the judge in the appeal court who found against the council when we tried to limit the number of licensed premises and their opening times. You obviously have an idea of what you think 'effective action' would be. I would appreciate your suggestions.[/p][/quote]Thanks, cllr Hunt, yes you can help. How do we cut through the bureaucracy fast? I presume at ECC. Where there's a will there's a way. I have nothing to lose, other than to look a pratt if I get it wrong. I can see you could risk losing credibility. So give us a hint - do we set up an email petition? Arrange for the real press and local telly to a candle lit vigil, at the scene of one of the stabbings? Or maybe just turn up at ECC and do a silent picket. Anyone else out there got any practical and legal ideas to do this fast?[/p][/quote]If they are matters that concern ECC I would turn up in force at the next Full Essex County Council meeting, protest outside, demand to see whichever portfolio holder deals with the matter you are concerned about. appoint a representative to Have Your Say which I believe you can now do at County Hall. But first I would ask to meet my county councillor to make sure he/she supports my case. The publicity of a mass protest will promote publicity and might make them think rather more than postings here. It is difficult to change decisions, but not impossible. And stay legal of course. You can do the same at CBC of course if it is a matter concerning the Borough Council. But don't waste your time complaining to people who haven't got the power to change what you want changing. Cllr Martin Hunt
  • Score: -22

1:16am Sun 13 Jul 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Cllr Martin Hunt wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
Cllr Martin Hunt wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
Boris wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
Cllr Martin Hunt wrote: Please can we get this quite straight. Colchester Council does not own and operate any CCTV cameras outside the town centre and never has. These cameras are nothing to do with Colchester Borough Council.
Well councilor martin hunt, does that make it better? Or are you and the other elected members who enjoy surprising allowance monies, just saying not our responsibility. For gods sake will none of you come out of hiding and take some sort of positive action to regain direction and confidence for Colchester.
What is this drivel about coming out of hiding? You can e-mail Martin Hunt any time, and he, like Bob Russell, is pretty good at answering e-mails promptly. You can look up his address on the CBC website and then go and ring his doorbell if you want to speak to him face to face. By all means oppose anyone you like, but don't accuse them of hiding from you, when they aren't.
Boris, I think you will agree Colchester is experiencing a sort of crisis. And has been for some time. You seem to be saying it's the folk of Colchester's fault for not emailing/calling bob and the councillors to let them know! I should have hoped they would have been aware. I'm not just talking about the terrible murders. The real pity is that, and I might have missed something, but I really can't remember any councilor or bob taking the initiative and any effective action to move us out of swamp of violence and stagnation that Colchester has slid into. Please correct me, and quite a few other citizens if I'm being unfair.
If I have the power to get Colchester out of this 'swamp of violence' I will do, but I am only Leader of the Council. I am not the police chief or the judge in the appeal court who found against the council when we tried to limit the number of licensed premises and their opening times. You obviously have an idea of what you think 'effective action' would be. I would appreciate your suggestions.
Thanks, cllr Hunt, yes you can help. How do we cut through the bureaucracy fast? I presume at ECC. Where there's a will there's a way. I have nothing to lose, other than to look a pratt if I get it wrong. I can see you could risk losing credibility. So give us a hint - do we set up an email petition? Arrange for the real press and local telly to a candle lit vigil, at the scene of one of the stabbings? Or maybe just turn up at ECC and do a silent picket. Anyone else out there got any practical and legal ideas to do this fast?
If they are matters that concern ECC I would turn up in force at the next Full Essex County Council meeting, protest outside, demand to see whichever portfolio holder deals with the matter you are concerned about. appoint a representative to Have Your Say which I believe you can now do at County Hall. But first I would ask to meet my county councillor to make sure he/she supports my case. The publicity of a mass protest will promote publicity and might make them think rather more than postings here. It is difficult to change decisions, but not impossible. And stay legal of course. You can do the same at CBC of course if it is a matter concerning the Borough Council. But don't waste your time complaining to people who haven't got the power to change what you want changing.
I understand what you say, and your position. You are the only councillor who has had the balls to make an encouraging comment. Hope it doesn't get you into agro. Meanwhile I have a cunning plan. Which may fall flat on its face or hopefully generate a significant and useful level of support. Thanks again.
[quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote: Please can we get this quite straight. Colchester Council does not own and operate any CCTV cameras outside the town centre and never has. These cameras are nothing to do with Colchester Borough Council.[/p][/quote]Well councilor martin hunt, does that make it better? Or are you and the other elected members who enjoy surprising allowance monies, just saying not our responsibility. For gods sake will none of you come out of hiding and take some sort of positive action to regain direction and confidence for Colchester.[/p][/quote]What is this drivel about coming out of hiding? You can e-mail Martin Hunt any time, and he, like Bob Russell, is pretty good at answering e-mails promptly. You can look up his address on the CBC website and then go and ring his doorbell if you want to speak to him face to face. By all means oppose anyone you like, but don't accuse them of hiding from you, when they aren't.[/p][/quote]Boris, I think you will agree Colchester is experiencing a sort of crisis. And has been for some time. You seem to be saying it's the folk of Colchester's fault for not emailing/calling bob and the councillors to let them know! I should have hoped they would have been aware. I'm not just talking about the terrible murders. The real pity is that, and I might have missed something, but I really can't remember any councilor or bob taking the initiative and any effective action to move us out of swamp of violence and stagnation that Colchester has slid into. Please correct me, and quite a few other citizens if I'm being unfair.[/p][/quote]If I have the power to get Colchester out of this 'swamp of violence' I will do, but I am only Leader of the Council. I am not the police chief or the judge in the appeal court who found against the council when we tried to limit the number of licensed premises and their opening times. You obviously have an idea of what you think 'effective action' would be. I would appreciate your suggestions.[/p][/quote]Thanks, cllr Hunt, yes you can help. How do we cut through the bureaucracy fast? I presume at ECC. Where there's a will there's a way. I have nothing to lose, other than to look a pratt if I get it wrong. I can see you could risk losing credibility. So give us a hint - do we set up an email petition? Arrange for the real press and local telly to a candle lit vigil, at the scene of one of the stabbings? Or maybe just turn up at ECC and do a silent picket. Anyone else out there got any practical and legal ideas to do this fast?[/p][/quote]If they are matters that concern ECC I would turn up in force at the next Full Essex County Council meeting, protest outside, demand to see whichever portfolio holder deals with the matter you are concerned about. appoint a representative to Have Your Say which I believe you can now do at County Hall. But first I would ask to meet my county councillor to make sure he/she supports my case. The publicity of a mass protest will promote publicity and might make them think rather more than postings here. It is difficult to change decisions, but not impossible. And stay legal of course. You can do the same at CBC of course if it is a matter concerning the Borough Council. But don't waste your time complaining to people who haven't got the power to change what you want changing.[/p][/quote]I understand what you say, and your position. You are the only councillor who has had the balls to make an encouraging comment. Hope it doesn't get you into agro. Meanwhile I have a cunning plan. Which may fall flat on its face or hopefully generate a significant and useful level of support. Thanks again. Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 6

1:28am Sun 13 Jul 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Angry of Lexden wrote:
Cllr Martin Hunt wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
Cllr Martin Hunt wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
Boris wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
Cllr Martin Hunt wrote: Please can we get this quite straight. Colchester Council does not own and operate any CCTV cameras outside the town centre and never has. These cameras are nothing to do with Colchester Borough Council.
Well councilor martin hunt, does that make it better? Or are you and the other elected members who enjoy surprising allowance monies, just saying not our responsibility. For gods sake will none of you come out of hiding and take some sort of positive action to regain direction and confidence for Colchester.
What is this drivel about coming out of hiding? You can e-mail Martin Hunt any time, and he, like Bob Russell, is pretty good at answering e-mails promptly. You can look up his address on the CBC website and then go and ring his doorbell if you want to speak to him face to face. By all means oppose anyone you like, but don't accuse them of hiding from you, when they aren't.
Boris, I think you will agree Colchester is experiencing a sort of crisis. And has been for some time. You seem to be saying it's the folk of Colchester's fault for not emailing/calling bob and the councillors to let them know! I should have hoped they would have been aware. I'm not just talking about the terrible murders. The real pity is that, and I might have missed something, but I really can't remember any councilor or bob taking the initiative and any effective action to move us out of swamp of violence and stagnation that Colchester has slid into. Please correct me, and quite a few other citizens if I'm being unfair.
If I have the power to get Colchester out of this 'swamp of violence' I will do, but I am only Leader of the Council. I am not the police chief or the judge in the appeal court who found against the council when we tried to limit the number of licensed premises and their opening times. You obviously have an idea of what you think 'effective action' would be. I would appreciate your suggestions.
Thanks, cllr Hunt, yes you can help. How do we cut through the bureaucracy fast? I presume at ECC. Where there's a will there's a way. I have nothing to lose, other than to look a pratt if I get it wrong. I can see you could risk losing credibility. So give us a hint - do we set up an email petition? Arrange for the real press and local telly to a candle lit vigil, at the scene of one of the stabbings? Or maybe just turn up at ECC and do a silent picket. Anyone else out there got any practical and legal ideas to do this fast?
If they are matters that concern ECC I would turn up in force at the next Full Essex County Council meeting, protest outside, demand to see whichever portfolio holder deals with the matter you are concerned about. appoint a representative to Have Your Say which I believe you can now do at County Hall. But first I would ask to meet my county councillor to make sure he/she supports my case. The publicity of a mass protest will promote publicity and might make them think rather more than postings here. It is difficult to change decisions, but not impossible. And stay legal of course. You can do the same at CBC of course if it is a matter concerning the Borough Council. But don't waste your time complaining to people who haven't got the power to change what you want changing.
I understand what you say, and your position. You are the only councillor who has had the balls to make an encouraging comment. Hope it doesn't get you into agro. Meanwhile I have a cunning plan. Which may fall flat on its face or hopefully generate a significant and useful level of support. Thanks again.
Ps. Strange stuff last few days in this comment thread. This is the truth, on Thursday I wrote a comment regarding, and naming one of the town's mp 's. When I pressed the send button the screen went blank for a moment, and then displayed an error code . The text vanished. I then sent the same text, but only referred to " our mp". You will see this went through ok. Today my comment on the street light turn off, with no mention of names got the same treatment. Am I getting paranoid? Or is this just a computer glitch?
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote: Please can we get this quite straight. Colchester Council does not own and operate any CCTV cameras outside the town centre and never has. These cameras are nothing to do with Colchester Borough Council.[/p][/quote]Well councilor martin hunt, does that make it better? Or are you and the other elected members who enjoy surprising allowance monies, just saying not our responsibility. For gods sake will none of you come out of hiding and take some sort of positive action to regain direction and confidence for Colchester.[/p][/quote]What is this drivel about coming out of hiding? You can e-mail Martin Hunt any time, and he, like Bob Russell, is pretty good at answering e-mails promptly. You can look up his address on the CBC website and then go and ring his doorbell if you want to speak to him face to face. By all means oppose anyone you like, but don't accuse them of hiding from you, when they aren't.[/p][/quote]Boris, I think you will agree Colchester is experiencing a sort of crisis. And has been for some time. You seem to be saying it's the folk of Colchester's fault for not emailing/calling bob and the councillors to let them know! I should have hoped they would have been aware. I'm not just talking about the terrible murders. The real pity is that, and I might have missed something, but I really can't remember any councilor or bob taking the initiative and any effective action to move us out of swamp of violence and stagnation that Colchester has slid into. Please correct me, and quite a few other citizens if I'm being unfair.[/p][/quote]If I have the power to get Colchester out of this 'swamp of violence' I will do, but I am only Leader of the Council. I am not the police chief or the judge in the appeal court who found against the council when we tried to limit the number of licensed premises and their opening times. You obviously have an idea of what you think 'effective action' would be. I would appreciate your suggestions.[/p][/quote]Thanks, cllr Hunt, yes you can help. How do we cut through the bureaucracy fast? I presume at ECC. Where there's a will there's a way. I have nothing to lose, other than to look a pratt if I get it wrong. I can see you could risk losing credibility. So give us a hint - do we set up an email petition? Arrange for the real press and local telly to a candle lit vigil, at the scene of one of the stabbings? Or maybe just turn up at ECC and do a silent picket. Anyone else out there got any practical and legal ideas to do this fast?[/p][/quote]If they are matters that concern ECC I would turn up in force at the next Full Essex County Council meeting, protest outside, demand to see whichever portfolio holder deals with the matter you are concerned about. appoint a representative to Have Your Say which I believe you can now do at County Hall. But first I would ask to meet my county councillor to make sure he/she supports my case. The publicity of a mass protest will promote publicity and might make them think rather more than postings here. It is difficult to change decisions, but not impossible. And stay legal of course. You can do the same at CBC of course if it is a matter concerning the Borough Council. But don't waste your time complaining to people who haven't got the power to change what you want changing.[/p][/quote]I understand what you say, and your position. You are the only councillor who has had the balls to make an encouraging comment. Hope it doesn't get you into agro. Meanwhile I have a cunning plan. Which may fall flat on its face or hopefully generate a significant and useful level of support. Thanks again.[/p][/quote]Ps. Strange stuff last few days in this comment thread. This is the truth, on Thursday I wrote a comment regarding, and naming one of the town's mp 's. When I pressed the send button the screen went blank for a moment, and then displayed an error code . The text vanished. I then sent the same text, but only referred to " our mp". You will see this went through ok. Today my comment on the street light turn off, with no mention of names got the same treatment. Am I getting paranoid? Or is this just a computer glitch? Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 7

1:40pm Sun 13 Jul 14

Shaneblackdarkknight says...

Has any one heard the rumars going around that both victims had there eyes cut out and hands chopped off , a reliable source has told me this as have others ,, if this is the case this needs disclosing to the public ASAP ...
Has any one heard the rumars going around that both victims had there eyes cut out and hands chopped off , a reliable source has told me this as have others ,, if this is the case this needs disclosing to the public ASAP ... Shaneblackdarkknight
  • Score: -4

8:53am Mon 14 Jul 14

SoundSense says...

pantsontoast wrote:
Put the bloody street lights back on for the whole of colchester why do we pay council tax if the money does not get spent on going towards the lighting they are there for a reason so switch them on, all the council ever do is waste our Money like a 2million pound bus stop that no one wanted but yet a killer is on the loose and they won't even spend the money on street light.
Colchester council and Essex county council are useless always have been always will be they are completely incompetent and don't have the safety of people who live here in mind.
Let's get a petition going to get lights back on
Online petition - http://cmis.essexcc.
gov.uk/essexcmis5/Pe
titions/tabid/106/ID
/40/Are-you-against-
the-night-time-stree
t-light-switch-off.a
spx
[quote][p][bold]pantsontoast[/bold] wrote: Put the bloody street lights back on for the whole of colchester why do we pay council tax if the money does not get spent on going towards the lighting they are there for a reason so switch them on, all the council ever do is waste our Money like a 2million pound bus stop that no one wanted but yet a killer is on the loose and they won't even spend the money on street light. Colchester council and Essex county council are useless always have been always will be they are completely incompetent and don't have the safety of people who live here in mind. Let's get a petition going to get lights back on[/p][/quote]Online petition - http://cmis.essexcc. gov.uk/essexcmis5/Pe titions/tabid/106/ID /40/Are-you-against- the-night-time-stree t-light-switch-off.a spx SoundSense
  • Score: 0

9:13am Mon 14 Jul 14

sam vines says...

Cllr Martin Hunt wrote:
Please can we get this quite straight. Colchester Council does not own and operate any CCTV cameras outside the town centre and never has. These cameras are nothing to do with Colchester Borough Council.
So Colchester's Safer Colchester Partnership (SCP) which CCTV comes under and has several members of the council on it. Is nothing to do with CBC.
[quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote: Please can we get this quite straight. Colchester Council does not own and operate any CCTV cameras outside the town centre and never has. These cameras are nothing to do with Colchester Borough Council.[/p][/quote]So Colchester's Safer Colchester Partnership (SCP) which CCTV comes under and has several members of the council on it. Is nothing to do with CBC. sam vines
  • Score: 9

10:31am Mon 14 Jul 14

wormshero says...

SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
Boris wrote:
Mohammad Akbar wrote:
SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
Theres not a book for Jim , as his murder did not gather worldwide interest........ Nahid , on the otherhand , ( rip) ..has got a book........but bet you its there due to politics !!!
What are you trying to say?
Something2say is clearly very confused. Nahid was a student at the University, and it was the University which set up the book of condolence, and quite right too.
Jim was just an ordinary private citizen, not a member of any large organisation as far as we know. So who would have set up a book of condolence for him?
Anyway, the important thing is to find the killer or killers.
What im saying is this......with the global attention to this murder , and the fact that a rascist motive for the murder has been played down , the top knobs signing the book are trying to keep the peace
I think everyone got what you're saying, just it's trying to make a political point where there isn't one - Nahid was a student at the university, the university have arranged a book. Jim was not a student at the university, the university didn't arrange a book. When students die under tragic circumstances the university (usually the multi-faith chaplaincy) have offered out a book of condolences for other students to write in. I'm not going to go and hunt out past ones, but there was another one as recently as May for another student who died shortly after fleeing hospital. Trying to make this some kind of political "it's just because she wasn't white" thing is just desperate in this situation. And fairly unimportant anyway. The university doesn't, and shouldn't, be creating a book of condolences for every person who passes away despite no relationship to the university.
[quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mohammad Akbar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: Theres not a book for Jim , as his murder did not gather worldwide interest........ Nahid , on the otherhand , ( rip) ..has got a book........but bet you its there due to politics !!![/p][/quote]What are you trying to say?[/p][/quote]Something2say is clearly very confused. Nahid was a student at the University, and it was the University which set up the book of condolence, and quite right too. Jim was just an ordinary private citizen, not a member of any large organisation as far as we know. So who would have set up a book of condolence for him? Anyway, the important thing is to find the killer or killers.[/p][/quote]What im saying is this......with the global attention to this murder , and the fact that a rascist motive for the murder has been played down , the top knobs signing the book are trying to keep the peace[/p][/quote]I think everyone got what you're saying, just it's trying to make a political point where there isn't one - Nahid was a student at the university, the university have arranged a book. Jim was not a student at the university, the university didn't arrange a book. When students die under tragic circumstances the university (usually the multi-faith chaplaincy) have offered out a book of condolences for other students to write in. I'm not going to go and hunt out past ones, but there was another one as recently as May for another student who died shortly after fleeing hospital. Trying to make this some kind of political "it's just because she wasn't white" thing is just desperate in this situation. And fairly unimportant anyway. The university doesn't, and shouldn't, be creating a book of condolences for every person who passes away despite no relationship to the university. wormshero
  • Score: -3

6:57pm Mon 14 Jul 14

shallowJoker says...

Cllr Martin Hunt wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
Boris wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
Cllr Martin Hunt wrote: Please can we get this quite straight. Colchester Council does not own and operate any CCTV cameras outside the town centre and never has. These cameras are nothing to do with Colchester Borough Council.
Well councilor martin hunt, does that make it better? Or are you and the other elected members who enjoy surprising allowance monies, just saying not our responsibility. For gods sake will none of you come out of hiding and take some sort of positive action to regain direction and confidence for Colchester.
What is this drivel about coming out of hiding? You can e-mail Martin Hunt any time, and he, like Bob Russell, is pretty good at answering e-mails promptly. You can look up his address on the CBC website and then go and ring his doorbell if you want to speak to him face to face. By all means oppose anyone you like, but don't accuse them of hiding from you, when they aren't.
Boris, I think you will agree Colchester is experiencing a sort of crisis. And has been for some time. You seem to be saying it's the folk of Colchester's fault for not emailing/calling bob and the councillors to let them know! I should have hoped they would have been aware. I'm not just talking about the terrible murders. The real pity is that, and I might have missed something, but I really can't remember any councilor or bob taking the initiative and any effective action to move us out of swamp of violence and stagnation that Colchester has slid into. Please correct me, and quite a few other citizens if I'm being unfair.
If I have the power to get Colchester out of this 'swamp of violence' I will do, but I am only Leader of the Council. I am not the police chief or the judge in the appeal court who found against the council when we tried to limit the number of licensed premises and their opening times. You obviously have an idea of what you think 'effective action' would be. I would appreciate your suggestions.
Yes it is very sad and shocking that two people have been murdered in the last three months but "swamp of violence and stagnation" is rediculous. A few years back Ipswich was hit with a much larger extent of shocking events but now all is carrying on as normal. Get a f@cking grip.
[quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote: Please can we get this quite straight. Colchester Council does not own and operate any CCTV cameras outside the town centre and never has. These cameras are nothing to do with Colchester Borough Council.[/p][/quote]Well councilor martin hunt, does that make it better? Or are you and the other elected members who enjoy surprising allowance monies, just saying not our responsibility. For gods sake will none of you come out of hiding and take some sort of positive action to regain direction and confidence for Colchester.[/p][/quote]What is this drivel about coming out of hiding? You can e-mail Martin Hunt any time, and he, like Bob Russell, is pretty good at answering e-mails promptly. You can look up his address on the CBC website and then go and ring his doorbell if you want to speak to him face to face. By all means oppose anyone you like, but don't accuse them of hiding from you, when they aren't.[/p][/quote]Boris, I think you will agree Colchester is experiencing a sort of crisis. And has been for some time. You seem to be saying it's the folk of Colchester's fault for not emailing/calling bob and the councillors to let them know! I should have hoped they would have been aware. I'm not just talking about the terrible murders. The real pity is that, and I might have missed something, but I really can't remember any councilor or bob taking the initiative and any effective action to move us out of swamp of violence and stagnation that Colchester has slid into. Please correct me, and quite a few other citizens if I'm being unfair.[/p][/quote]If I have the power to get Colchester out of this 'swamp of violence' I will do, but I am only Leader of the Council. I am not the police chief or the judge in the appeal court who found against the council when we tried to limit the number of licensed premises and their opening times. You obviously have an idea of what you think 'effective action' would be. I would appreciate your suggestions.[/p][/quote]Yes it is very sad and shocking that two people have been murdered in the last three months but "swamp of violence and stagnation" is rediculous. A few years back Ipswich was hit with a much larger extent of shocking events but now all is carrying on as normal. Get a f@cking grip. shallowJoker
  • Score: -5

6:57pm Mon 14 Jul 14

shallowJoker says...

Cllr Martin Hunt wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
Boris wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
Cllr Martin Hunt wrote: Please can we get this quite straight. Colchester Council does not own and operate any CCTV cameras outside the town centre and never has. These cameras are nothing to do with Colchester Borough Council.
Well councilor martin hunt, does that make it better? Or are you and the other elected members who enjoy surprising allowance monies, just saying not our responsibility. For gods sake will none of you come out of hiding and take some sort of positive action to regain direction and confidence for Colchester.
What is this drivel about coming out of hiding? You can e-mail Martin Hunt any time, and he, like Bob Russell, is pretty good at answering e-mails promptly. You can look up his address on the CBC website and then go and ring his doorbell if you want to speak to him face to face. By all means oppose anyone you like, but don't accuse them of hiding from you, when they aren't.
Boris, I think you will agree Colchester is experiencing a sort of crisis. And has been for some time. You seem to be saying it's the folk of Colchester's fault for not emailing/calling bob and the councillors to let them know! I should have hoped they would have been aware. I'm not just talking about the terrible murders. The real pity is that, and I might have missed something, but I really can't remember any councilor or bob taking the initiative and any effective action to move us out of swamp of violence and stagnation that Colchester has slid into. Please correct me, and quite a few other citizens if I'm being unfair.
If I have the power to get Colchester out of this 'swamp of violence' I will do, but I am only Leader of the Council. I am not the police chief or the judge in the appeal court who found against the council when we tried to limit the number of licensed premises and their opening times. You obviously have an idea of what you think 'effective action' would be. I would appreciate your suggestions.
Yes it is very sad and shocking that two people have been murdered in the last three months but "swamp of violence and stagnation" is rediculous. A few years back Ipswich was hit with a much larger extent of shocking events but now all is carrying on as normal. Get a f@cking grip.
[quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote: Please can we get this quite straight. Colchester Council does not own and operate any CCTV cameras outside the town centre and never has. These cameras are nothing to do with Colchester Borough Council.[/p][/quote]Well councilor martin hunt, does that make it better? Or are you and the other elected members who enjoy surprising allowance monies, just saying not our responsibility. For gods sake will none of you come out of hiding and take some sort of positive action to regain direction and confidence for Colchester.[/p][/quote]What is this drivel about coming out of hiding? You can e-mail Martin Hunt any time, and he, like Bob Russell, is pretty good at answering e-mails promptly. You can look up his address on the CBC website and then go and ring his doorbell if you want to speak to him face to face. By all means oppose anyone you like, but don't accuse them of hiding from you, when they aren't.[/p][/quote]Boris, I think you will agree Colchester is experiencing a sort of crisis. And has been for some time. You seem to be saying it's the folk of Colchester's fault for not emailing/calling bob and the councillors to let them know! I should have hoped they would have been aware. I'm not just talking about the terrible murders. The real pity is that, and I might have missed something, but I really can't remember any councilor or bob taking the initiative and any effective action to move us out of swamp of violence and stagnation that Colchester has slid into. Please correct me, and quite a few other citizens if I'm being unfair.[/p][/quote]If I have the power to get Colchester out of this 'swamp of violence' I will do, but I am only Leader of the Council. I am not the police chief or the judge in the appeal court who found against the council when we tried to limit the number of licensed premises and their opening times. You obviously have an idea of what you think 'effective action' would be. I would appreciate your suggestions.[/p][/quote]Yes it is very sad and shocking that two people have been murdered in the last three months but "swamp of violence and stagnation" is rediculous. A few years back Ipswich was hit with a much larger extent of shocking events but now all is carrying on as normal. Get a f@cking grip. shallowJoker
  • Score: -2

8:28pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Angry of Lexden says...

shallowJoker wrote:
There are so many people in this town that are scared of their own shadows that it's a good job the lights have been switched off. Adults saying " Im scared ". whilst paper boys and girls out early morning and in a few months time delivering your evening gazette in the dark just get on with it. People need to man up.
Ok shallow, you got kids, wife, old parents?
[quote][p][bold]shallowJoker[/bold] wrote: There are so many people in this town that are scared of their own shadows that it's a good job the lights have been switched off. Adults saying " Im scared ". whilst paper boys and girls out early morning and in a few months time delivering your evening gazette in the dark just get on with it. People need to man up.[/p][/quote]Ok shallow, you got kids, wife, old parents? Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 0

8:40pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Angry of Lexden says...

shallowJoker wrote:
Cllr Martin Hunt wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
Boris wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
Cllr Martin Hunt wrote: Please can we get this quite straight. Colchester Council does not own and operate any CCTV cameras outside the town centre and never has. These cameras are nothing to do with Colchester Borough Council.
Well councilor martin hunt, does that make it better? Or are you and the other elected members who enjoy surprising allowance monies, just saying not our responsibility. For gods sake will none of you come out of hiding and take some sort of positive action to regain direction and confidence for Colchester.
What is this drivel about coming out of hiding? You can e-mail Martin Hunt any time, and he, like Bob Russell, is pretty good at answering e-mails promptly. You can look up his address on the CBC website and then go and ring his doorbell if you want to speak to him face to face. By all means oppose anyone you like, but don't accuse them of hiding from you, when they aren't.
Boris, I think you will agree Colchester is experiencing a sort of crisis. And has been for some time. You seem to be saying it's the folk of Colchester's fault for not emailing/calling bob and the councillors to let them know! I should have hoped they would have been aware. I'm not just talking about the terrible murders. The real pity is that, and I might have missed something, but I really can't remember any councilor or bob taking the initiative and any effective action to move us out of swamp of violence and stagnation that Colchester has slid into. Please correct me, and quite a few other citizens if I'm being unfair.
If I have the power to get Colchester out of this 'swamp of violence' I will do, but I am only Leader of the Council. I am not the police chief or the judge in the appeal court who found against the council when we tried to limit the number of licensed premises and their opening times. You obviously have an idea of what you think 'effective action' would be. I would appreciate your suggestions.
Yes it is very sad and shocking that two people have been murdered in the last three months but "swamp of violence and stagnation" is rediculous. A few years back Ipswich was hit with a much larger extent of shocking events but now all is carrying on as normal. Get a f@cking grip.
Shallow, there is not really much I can say. By the way, you chose your name wisely.
[quote][p][bold]shallowJoker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote: Please can we get this quite straight. Colchester Council does not own and operate any CCTV cameras outside the town centre and never has. These cameras are nothing to do with Colchester Borough Council.[/p][/quote]Well councilor martin hunt, does that make it better? Or are you and the other elected members who enjoy surprising allowance monies, just saying not our responsibility. For gods sake will none of you come out of hiding and take some sort of positive action to regain direction and confidence for Colchester.[/p][/quote]What is this drivel about coming out of hiding? You can e-mail Martin Hunt any time, and he, like Bob Russell, is pretty good at answering e-mails promptly. You can look up his address on the CBC website and then go and ring his doorbell if you want to speak to him face to face. By all means oppose anyone you like, but don't accuse them of hiding from you, when they aren't.[/p][/quote]Boris, I think you will agree Colchester is experiencing a sort of crisis. And has been for some time. You seem to be saying it's the folk of Colchester's fault for not emailing/calling bob and the councillors to let them know! I should have hoped they would have been aware. I'm not just talking about the terrible murders. The real pity is that, and I might have missed something, but I really can't remember any councilor or bob taking the initiative and any effective action to move us out of swamp of violence and stagnation that Colchester has slid into. Please correct me, and quite a few other citizens if I'm being unfair.[/p][/quote]If I have the power to get Colchester out of this 'swamp of violence' I will do, but I am only Leader of the Council. I am not the police chief or the judge in the appeal court who found against the council when we tried to limit the number of licensed premises and their opening times. You obviously have an idea of what you think 'effective action' would be. I would appreciate your suggestions.[/p][/quote]Yes it is very sad and shocking that two people have been murdered in the last three months but "swamp of violence and stagnation" is rediculous. A few years back Ipswich was hit with a much larger extent of shocking events but now all is carrying on as normal. Get a f@cking grip.[/p][/quote]Shallow, there is not really much I can say. By the way, you chose your name wisely. Angry of Lexden
  • Score: -1

9:22pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Pondermatic says...

Born and raised in Colchester, lived here for 40 years, and always liked this town. But it's pretty clear it's been badly mis-managed for the last few years. And it all comes back to the issue of money. The residential areas have been overdeveloped, without due regard for the infrastructure. Where has the money from the many developers gone? Can't believe they got the land for free! Why is the whole town not benefitting from the growth, and growing with it? The only thing that's growing is the population. The hospital is straining, the police are struggling to keep up with the influx of criminals, CCTV can't be maintained (apparently not even in key areas), the roads can't take the amount of traffic, which isn't helped by the sometimes ridiculous traffic management and layouts. We don't even have a proper bus station now - just a series of poorly positioned bus stops and one oversized shelter. It's saddening to see what was once a great little town, ruined. Someone needs to be held accountable and their job given to someone with more than money on their mind. I believe this could be a great town again, but the rot needs to stop now.
Born and raised in Colchester, lived here for 40 years, and always liked this town. But it's pretty clear it's been badly mis-managed for the last few years. And it all comes back to the issue of money. The residential areas have been overdeveloped, without due regard for the infrastructure. Where has the money from the many developers gone? Can't believe they got the land for free! Why is the whole town not benefitting from the growth, and growing with it? The only thing that's growing is the population. The hospital is straining, the police are struggling to keep up with the influx of criminals, CCTV can't be maintained (apparently not even in key areas), the roads can't take the amount of traffic, which isn't helped by the sometimes ridiculous traffic management and layouts. We don't even have a proper bus station now - just a series of poorly positioned bus stops and one oversized shelter. It's saddening to see what was once a great little town, ruined. Someone needs to be held accountable and their job given to someone with more than money on their mind. I believe this could be a great town again, but the rot needs to stop now. Pondermatic
  • Score: 4

9:25pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Pondermatic says...

Pondermatic wrote:
Born and raised in Colchester, lived here for 40 years, and always liked this town. But it's pretty clear it's been badly mis-managed for the last few years. And it all comes back to the issue of money. The residential areas have been overdeveloped, without due regard for the infrastructure. Where has the money from the many developers gone? Can't believe they got the land for free! Why is the whole town not benefitting from the growth, and growing with it? The only thing that's growing is the population. The hospital is straining, the police are struggling to keep up with the influx of criminals, CCTV can't be maintained (apparently not even in key areas), the roads can't take the amount of traffic, which isn't helped by the sometimes ridiculous traffic management and layouts. We don't even have a proper bus station now - just a series of poorly positioned bus stops and one oversized shelter. It's saddening to see what was once a great little town, ruined. Someone needs to be held accountable and their job given to someone with more than money on their mind. I believe this could be a great town again, but the rot needs to stop now.
Oh, and the people out there that know who commits these horrible crimes, need to find some strength and come forward with the information. Someone out there must know something.
[quote][p][bold]Pondermatic[/bold] wrote: Born and raised in Colchester, lived here for 40 years, and always liked this town. But it's pretty clear it's been badly mis-managed for the last few years. And it all comes back to the issue of money. The residential areas have been overdeveloped, without due regard for the infrastructure. Where has the money from the many developers gone? Can't believe they got the land for free! Why is the whole town not benefitting from the growth, and growing with it? The only thing that's growing is the population. The hospital is straining, the police are struggling to keep up with the influx of criminals, CCTV can't be maintained (apparently not even in key areas), the roads can't take the amount of traffic, which isn't helped by the sometimes ridiculous traffic management and layouts. We don't even have a proper bus station now - just a series of poorly positioned bus stops and one oversized shelter. It's saddening to see what was once a great little town, ruined. Someone needs to be held accountable and their job given to someone with more than money on their mind. I believe this could be a great town again, but the rot needs to stop now.[/p][/quote]Oh, and the people out there that know who commits these horrible crimes, need to find some strength and come forward with the information. Someone out there must know something. Pondermatic
  • Score: -1

11:11pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Pondermatic wrote:
Born and raised in Colchester, lived here for 40 years, and always liked this town. But it's pretty clear it's been badly mis-managed for the last few years. And it all comes back to the issue of money. The residential areas have been overdeveloped, without due regard for the infrastructure. Where has the money from the many developers gone? Can't believe they got the land for free! Why is the whole town not benefitting from the growth, and growing with it? The only thing that's growing is the population. The hospital is straining, the police are struggling to keep up with the influx of criminals, CCTV can't be maintained (apparently not even in key areas), the roads can't take the amount of traffic, which isn't helped by the sometimes ridiculous traffic management and layouts. We don't even have a proper bus station now - just a series of poorly positioned bus stops and one oversized shelter. It's saddening to see what was once a great little town, ruined. Someone needs to be held accountable and their job given to someone with more than money on their mind. I believe this could be a great town again, but the rot needs to stop now.
Pondermatic, it is sad to see the state we have let the town get to. I moved here just over forty years ago. In those days I would allow an afternoon to show visiting customers the sites. We booked them into the George and I would walk with them after dinner for a drink in a local pub - we would need body armour and the sas now. The serious issue is that we are where we are, and if you and I have lived here for thirty to forty years - we are responsible in part for allowing the town elders to take the town into the abyss. How do we get out, and where do we start?
[quote][p][bold]Pondermatic[/bold] wrote: Born and raised in Colchester, lived here for 40 years, and always liked this town. But it's pretty clear it's been badly mis-managed for the last few years. And it all comes back to the issue of money. The residential areas have been overdeveloped, without due regard for the infrastructure. Where has the money from the many developers gone? Can't believe they got the land for free! Why is the whole town not benefitting from the growth, and growing with it? The only thing that's growing is the population. The hospital is straining, the police are struggling to keep up with the influx of criminals, CCTV can't be maintained (apparently not even in key areas), the roads can't take the amount of traffic, which isn't helped by the sometimes ridiculous traffic management and layouts. We don't even have a proper bus station now - just a series of poorly positioned bus stops and one oversized shelter. It's saddening to see what was once a great little town, ruined. Someone needs to be held accountable and their job given to someone with more than money on their mind. I believe this could be a great town again, but the rot needs to stop now.[/p][/quote]Pondermatic, it is sad to see the state we have let the town get to. I moved here just over forty years ago. In those days I would allow an afternoon to show visiting customers the sites. We booked them into the George and I would walk with them after dinner for a drink in a local pub - we would need body armour and the sas now. The serious issue is that we are where we are, and if you and I have lived here for thirty to forty years - we are responsible in part for allowing the town elders to take the town into the abyss. How do we get out, and where do we start? Angry of Lexden
  • Score: -3

1:17am Tue 15 Jul 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Good morning chaps and chappesses, it's one am Tuesday and the street lights in my road and the Lexden Road are are still on.
Good morning chaps and chappesses, it's one am Tuesday and the street lights in my road and the Lexden Road are are still on. Angry of Lexden
  • Score: -1

7:00am Tue 15 Jul 14

shallowJoker says...

Mohammad Akbar wrote:
intrestedlocal wrote:
We need to do protest to keep the lights on!. I must also mention that i travel around the town on my way home and have been seeing at least 6 police on foot on my way but this week so far I have seen none
Protest you must be joking the people of Colchester are too fat and lazy to do anything that's why the town is in such a mess.
Not only are they lazy they are also thick, many times the police have said they are not linking the murders yet people still think there is a serial killer on the loose. Almost never doe's a serial killer move from one gender to another, that means from killing males and moving onto females of vice versa. They are calculated in their moves chosing their victims. If the Colchester murders were a work of a uncontrollable madman they would have struck again by now, and I am no more worried about my family than I was six months ago.
[quote][p][bold]Mohammad Akbar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]intrestedlocal[/bold] wrote: We need to do protest to keep the lights on!. I must also mention that i travel around the town on my way home and have been seeing at least 6 police on foot on my way but this week so far I have seen none[/p][/quote]Protest you must be joking the people of Colchester are too fat and lazy to do anything that's why the town is in such a mess.[/p][/quote]Not only are they lazy they are also thick, many times the police have said they are not linking the murders yet people still think there is a serial killer on the loose. Almost never doe's a serial killer move from one gender to another, that means from killing males and moving onto females of vice versa. They are calculated in their moves chosing their victims. If the Colchester murders were a work of a uncontrollable madman they would have struck again by now, and I am no more worried about my family than I was six months ago. shallowJoker
  • Score: -1

9:02am Tue 15 Jul 14

romantic says...

shallowJoker wrote:
Mohammad Akbar wrote:
intrestedlocal wrote:
We need to do protest to keep the lights on!. I must also mention that i travel around the town on my way home and have been seeing at least 6 police on foot on my way but this week so far I have seen none
Protest you must be joking the people of Colchester are too fat and lazy to do anything that's why the town is in such a mess.
Not only are they lazy they are also thick, many times the police have said they are not linking the murders yet people still think there is a serial killer on the loose. Almost never doe's a serial killer move from one gender to another, that means from killing males and moving onto females of vice versa. They are calculated in their moves chosing their victims. If the Colchester murders were a work of a uncontrollable madman they would have struck again by now, and I am no more worried about my family than I was six months ago.
As far as I am aware, the police are not ruling out it being the same person, but have no actual evidence either way. You may think you have some huge psychological insight into serial killers, but murderers don't always follow the textbook.

The two killings may be totally unrelated. I am intrigued that you somehow feel this would be less worrying - to have not just one person out there who will stab somebody over and over, but two of them.

Every serial killer does things a different way. To say that they would have struck again by now is nonsense. They are rarely some sort of frothing madman; whoever it is (or they are), there will be people who find it impossible to believe it could be them, because they seemed like such nice people.

The place has been crawling with police, people are being more vigilant, but it is gradually going back to how it was. People are using the alleys and isolated paths late at night again. The increased police presence will not be around forever. If this is somebody who wants to kill again, they could wait weeks or months. It will give them a lot of satisfaction to know that nobody really has a clue.

I am glad that you're not worried about your family. I'm not totally paranoid or worried, but certainly wouldn't be very happy if any of mine were walking alone late at night. Despite your assertion that they cannot be the same person, I fear that is not based on actual facts.
[quote][p][bold]shallowJoker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mohammad Akbar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]intrestedlocal[/bold] wrote: We need to do protest to keep the lights on!. I must also mention that i travel around the town on my way home and have been seeing at least 6 police on foot on my way but this week so far I have seen none[/p][/quote]Protest you must be joking the people of Colchester are too fat and lazy to do anything that's why the town is in such a mess.[/p][/quote]Not only are they lazy they are also thick, many times the police have said they are not linking the murders yet people still think there is a serial killer on the loose. Almost never doe's a serial killer move from one gender to another, that means from killing males and moving onto females of vice versa. They are calculated in their moves chosing their victims. If the Colchester murders were a work of a uncontrollable madman they would have struck again by now, and I am no more worried about my family than I was six months ago.[/p][/quote]As far as I am aware, the police are not ruling out it being the same person, but have no actual evidence either way. You may think you have some huge psychological insight into serial killers, but murderers don't always follow the textbook. The two killings may be totally unrelated. I am intrigued that you somehow feel this would be less worrying - to have not just one person out there who will stab somebody over and over, but two of them. Every serial killer does things a different way. To say that they would have struck again by now is nonsense. They are rarely some sort of frothing madman; whoever it is (or they are), there will be people who find it impossible to believe it could be them, because they seemed like such nice people. The place has been crawling with police, people are being more vigilant, but it is gradually going back to how it was. People are using the alleys and isolated paths late at night again. The increased police presence will not be around forever. If this is somebody who wants to kill again, they could wait weeks or months. It will give them a lot of satisfaction to know that nobody really has a clue. I am glad that you're not worried about your family. I'm not totally paranoid or worried, but certainly wouldn't be very happy if any of mine were walking alone late at night. Despite your assertion that they cannot be the same person, I fear that is not based on actual facts. romantic
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11:04pm Tue 15 Jul 14

colchlad says...

Totally agree with Romantic this could easily be the same killer, leading profilers have already said 'likely linked and won't stop until caught.' The view that its not the same killer because one victim was male and one female is absurd. Both victims could be conceptualized as being from 'a minority' group or in both cases conceptualized as vulnerable. Anybody who does this kind of thing IS an uncontrollable madman, but that doesn't mean he/she is stupid, careless or not gonna bide their time. ShallowJoker doesnt know what he/she is talking about.
Totally agree with Romantic this could easily be the same killer, leading profilers have already said 'likely linked and won't stop until caught.' The view that its not the same killer because one victim was male and one female is absurd. Both victims could be conceptualized as being from 'a minority' group or in both cases conceptualized as vulnerable. Anybody who does this kind of thing IS an uncontrollable madman, but that doesn't mean he/she is stupid, careless or not gonna bide their time. ShallowJoker doesnt know what he/she is talking about. colchlad
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1:28pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Pondermatic says...

Pondermatic wrote:
Pondermatic wrote:
Born and raised in Colchester, lived here for 40 years, and always liked this town. But it's pretty clear it's been badly mis-managed for the last few years. And it all comes back to the issue of money. The residential areas have been overdeveloped, without due regard for the infrastructure. Where has the money from the many developers gone? Can't believe they got the land for free! Why is the whole town not benefitting from the growth, and growing with it? The only thing that's growing is the population. The hospital is straining, the police are struggling to keep up with the influx of criminals, CCTV can't be maintained (apparently not even in key areas), the roads can't take the amount of traffic, which isn't helped by the sometimes ridiculous traffic management and layouts. We don't even have a proper bus station now - just a series of poorly positioned bus stops and one oversized shelter. It's saddening to see what was once a great little town, ruined. Someone needs to be held accountable and their job given to someone with more than money on their mind. I believe this could be a great town again, but the rot needs to stop now.
Oh, and the people out there that know who commits these horrible crimes, need to find some strength and come forward with the information. Someone out there must know something.
Why on earth would someone vote that last comment down??
[quote][p][bold]Pondermatic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pondermatic[/bold] wrote: Born and raised in Colchester, lived here for 40 years, and always liked this town. But it's pretty clear it's been badly mis-managed for the last few years. And it all comes back to the issue of money. The residential areas have been overdeveloped, without due regard for the infrastructure. Where has the money from the many developers gone? Can't believe they got the land for free! Why is the whole town not benefitting from the growth, and growing with it? The only thing that's growing is the population. The hospital is straining, the police are struggling to keep up with the influx of criminals, CCTV can't be maintained (apparently not even in key areas), the roads can't take the amount of traffic, which isn't helped by the sometimes ridiculous traffic management and layouts. We don't even have a proper bus station now - just a series of poorly positioned bus stops and one oversized shelter. It's saddening to see what was once a great little town, ruined. Someone needs to be held accountable and their job given to someone with more than money on their mind. I believe this could be a great town again, but the rot needs to stop now.[/p][/quote]Oh, and the people out there that know who commits these horrible crimes, need to find some strength and come forward with the information. Someone out there must know something.[/p][/quote]Why on earth would someone vote that last comment down?? Pondermatic
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