Dedicated cops working 14-hour days to keep Colchester safe after Nahid Al-Manea murder

Gazette: Dedicated cops working 14-hour days to keep Colchester safe after Nahid Al-Manea murder Dedicated cops working 14-hour days to keep Colchester safe after Nahid Al-Manea murder

MORE than 300 police officers are working 14-hour days to keep Colchester safe.

The high-visibility policing operation comes after the brutal murder of Saudi student Nahid Al-Manea on the Salary Brook Trail on Tuesday, June 17.

About 100 extra officers are patrolling the streets of Colchester every day in a bid to reassure the public.

It is also in response to the murder of Jim Attfield - the 33-year-old father-of-five who was found stabbed 102 times near to Lower Castle Park on March 29.

Det Chief Insp Steve Worron, head the Serious Crime Directorate for Kent and Essex, revealed extra resources have been found so the patrols can continue for the coming weeks.

He said: “Officers are working between 12 and 14-hour days to make sure people in the town feel safe.

“Some of the officers are not officers who which usually work in Colchester but they recognise the importance of the investigation and they are absolutely committed to working those hours.”

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6:15pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Angry of Lexden says...

I think it's great. We have had foot patrol in my road and my family and went out and thanked them. They were brought in from suffolk.
I think it's great. We have had foot patrol in my road and my family and went out and thanked them. They were brought in from suffolk. Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 63

6:16pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Mr Honest says...

Poor officers picking up all that overtime. My heart bleeds for them!
Poor officers picking up all that overtime. My heart bleeds for them! Mr Honest
  • Score: -138

8:26pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Wicky1 says...

Connection or coincidence,,,
Swindon cyclist stabbed to death in 'vicious' attack
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-england-wil
tshire-28052826
Connection or coincidence,,, Swindon cyclist stabbed to death in 'vicious' attack http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-england-wil tshire-28052826 Wicky1
  • Score: 4

9:06pm Fri 27 Jun 14

HARRY438 says...

Looks like one and half cops to me?
Looks like one and half cops to me? HARRY438
  • Score: -16

10:23pm Fri 27 Jun 14

MaryPoppins87 says...

I've been most impressed by the police around where I live. They drive past twice daily and also go on foot. I personally feel more comfortated and safe knowing they are out in full force. Good job!
I've been most impressed by the police around where I live. They drive past twice daily and also go on foot. I personally feel more comfortated and safe knowing they are out in full force. Good job! MaryPoppins87
  • Score: 57

11:25pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Michael31 says...

I have seen them around here and very much appreciate their service.. Great to see at a time like this.. I only wish they would divulge details for murders and not keep us in the dark because it doesn't help when trying to keep safe
I have seen them around here and very much appreciate their service.. Great to see at a time like this.. I only wish they would divulge details for murders and not keep us in the dark because it doesn't help when trying to keep safe Michael31
  • Score: 11

5:35am Sat 28 Jun 14

Lloyd George says...

Mr Honest wrote:
Poor officers picking up all that overtime. My heart bleeds for them!
You wouldn't do their job and put up with all the abuse from anti establishment bottom feeders who wish society to be a liberal free for all for morons that can't abide living by socially accepted moral code.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Honest[/bold] wrote: Poor officers picking up all that overtime. My heart bleeds for them![/p][/quote]You wouldn't do their job and put up with all the abuse from anti establishment bottom feeders who wish society to be a liberal free for all for morons that can't abide living by socially accepted moral code. Lloyd George
  • Score: 52

6:15am Sat 28 Jun 14

shallowJoker says...

I think when other potential murderers cans see the is a good chance of getting away with it more murders will follow in the future
I think when other potential murderers cans see the is a good chance of getting away with it more murders will follow in the future shallowJoker
  • Score: 2

6:24am Sat 28 Jun 14

JohnStang says...

Thats a really good find Wicky1.... I wonder if this is the same guy.... sure has similarities....
Thats a really good find Wicky1.... I wonder if this is the same guy.... sure has similarities.... JohnStang
  • Score: 0

6:32am Sat 28 Jun 14

1980-colchester says...

I know what you mean about being kept in the dark, keep checking twice daily for new info. But the police presence has been amazing!! It's such a reassurance to know they are around. It may be their job but taking over time isn't part of their contract, doesn't mean they don't deserve gratification for doing so, they do. They've been fantastic! They also have lives and families themselves.
I know what you mean about being kept in the dark, keep checking twice daily for new info. But the police presence has been amazing!! It's such a reassurance to know they are around. It may be their job but taking over time isn't part of their contract, doesn't mean they don't deserve gratification for doing so, they do. They've been fantastic! They also have lives and families themselves. 1980-colchester
  • Score: 35

6:37am Sat 28 Jun 14

JohnStang says...

Swindon is absolutely miles away tho....
Swindon is absolutely miles away tho.... JohnStang
  • Score: -4

7:54am Sat 28 Jun 14

MooGirl says...

JohnStang wrote:
Swindon is absolutely miles away tho....
It's not that far... What a total nothing comment. I know it might be a bit frightening for you but here goes... I can get all the way to Liverpool within 3 hours using public transport...
[quote][p][bold]JohnStang[/bold] wrote: Swindon is absolutely miles away tho....[/p][/quote]It's not that far... What a total nothing comment. I know it might be a bit frightening for you but here goes... I can get all the way to Liverpool within 3 hours using public transport... MooGirl
  • Score: -3

8:06am Sat 28 Jun 14

JohnStang says...

MooGirl wrote:
JohnStang wrote:
Swindon is absolutely miles away tho....
It's not that far... What a total nothing comment. I know it might be a bit frightening for you but here goes... I can get all the way to Liverpool within 3 hours using public transport...
Well you certainly taught me a lesson.... won't be making nothing comments anymore thats for sure....
[quote][p][bold]MooGirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnStang[/bold] wrote: Swindon is absolutely miles away tho....[/p][/quote]It's not that far... What a total nothing comment. I know it might be a bit frightening for you but here goes... I can get all the way to Liverpool within 3 hours using public transport...[/p][/quote]Well you certainly taught me a lesson.... won't be making nothing comments anymore thats for sure.... JohnStang
  • Score: 5

8:14am Sat 28 Jun 14

MooGirl says...

JohnStang wrote:
MooGirl wrote:
JohnStang wrote:
Swindon is absolutely miles away tho....
It's not that far... What a total nothing comment. I know it might be a bit frightening for you but here goes... I can get all the way to Liverpool within 3 hours using public transport...
Well you certainly taught me a lesson.... won't be making nothing comments anymore thats for sure....
Oh dear...
[quote][p][bold]JohnStang[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MooGirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnStang[/bold] wrote: Swindon is absolutely miles away tho....[/p][/quote]It's not that far... What a total nothing comment. I know it might be a bit frightening for you but here goes... I can get all the way to Liverpool within 3 hours using public transport...[/p][/quote]Well you certainly taught me a lesson.... won't be making nothing comments anymore thats for sure....[/p][/quote]Oh dear... MooGirl
  • Score: -2

8:41am Sat 28 Jun 14

diggerdave1964 says...

I think the police have done and are doing a great job one of the major concerns now is to keep the area safe all the children break up for the six weeks holiday very soon alot of children on greenstead estate play and fish in the area the lady was murdered that could make for a very long summer for children and parents alike I appreciate the police cant stay there indefinitely but whatever help is offered should be received gratefully
I think the police have done and are doing a great job one of the major concerns now is to keep the area safe all the children break up for the six weeks holiday very soon alot of children on greenstead estate play and fish in the area the lady was murdered that could make for a very long summer for children and parents alike I appreciate the police cant stay there indefinitely but whatever help is offered should be received gratefully diggerdave1964
  • Score: 19

8:52am Sat 28 Jun 14

MooGirl says...

I am very reassured with the police presence. And I'm sure a lot of them are pleased to be doing something constructive rather than paperwork. Now let's get the lights turned on again and get back to respecting the people around us and living without fear.
I am very reassured with the police presence. And I'm sure a lot of them are pleased to be doing something constructive rather than paperwork. Now let's get the lights turned on again and get back to respecting the people around us and living without fear. MooGirl
  • Score: 11

9:04am Sat 28 Jun 14

crabdeerbadger says...

Respect to all the officers out there. But there is a thing that really bothers me. The crime happened and all the police is now on the street, which they are probably using some reserve money that the keep for cases like this. BUT, why not to use a tiny bit of this money to keep a bit more police on the streets all the time? I've been in Colchester for 2 years, never seen foot patrols in Greenstead area, just a couple of cars sometimes. I really think the police is doing great job right now, but they need to spend some more on crime prevention because if they do, there is less chance that similar murders happen again. Especially if they announce that police presence will be higher all the time from now on.
Respect to all the officers out there. But there is a thing that really bothers me. The crime happened and all the police is now on the street, which they are probably using some reserve money that the keep for cases like this. BUT, why not to use a tiny bit of this money to keep a bit more police on the streets all the time? I've been in Colchester for 2 years, never seen foot patrols in Greenstead area, just a couple of cars sometimes. I really think the police is doing great job right now, but they need to spend some more on crime prevention because if they do, there is less chance that similar murders happen again. Especially if they announce that police presence will be higher all the time from now on. crabdeerbadger
  • Score: 17

9:18am Sat 28 Jun 14

HARRY438 says...

MooGirl wrote:
I am very reassured with the police presence. And I'm sure a lot of them are pleased to be doing something constructive rather than paperwork. Now let's get the lights turned on again and get back to respecting the people around us and living without fear.
The lights have been turned back on ,in the Dutch Quarter at least.
[quote][p][bold]MooGirl[/bold] wrote: I am very reassured with the police presence. And I'm sure a lot of them are pleased to be doing something constructive rather than paperwork. Now let's get the lights turned on again and get back to respecting the people around us and living without fear.[/p][/quote]The lights have been turned back on ,in the Dutch Quarter at least. HARRY438
  • Score: 3

9:33am Sat 28 Jun 14

Shoosh1905 says...

Angry of Lexden wrote:
born2know wrote:
Mr Honest wrote:
Poor officers picking up all that overtime. My heart bleeds for them!
You T**t
Born2know, I believe you are doing t**ts a great disservice. Ps I have been looking for the Russel, can't find him anywhere. Need to ask him about his disgraceful vote last week against a change in the law to reduce death by knife crime. There's a rumour in another thread that he is hiding in jumbo. Any thoughts?
Yes funny how he's nowhere to be found or comment the sooner we get him out the better. Please all remember this come the election!!
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]born2know[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Honest[/bold] wrote: Poor officers picking up all that overtime. My heart bleeds for them![/p][/quote]You T**t[/p][/quote]Born2know, I believe you are doing t**ts a great disservice. Ps I have been looking for the Russel, can't find him anywhere. Need to ask him about his disgraceful vote last week against a change in the law to reduce death by knife crime. There's a rumour in another thread that he is hiding in jumbo. Any thoughts?[/p][/quote]Yes funny how he's nowhere to be found or comment the sooner we get him out the better. Please all remember this come the election!! Shoosh1905
  • Score: 17

10:26am Sat 28 Jun 14

Michael31 says...

I know it may cost a lot but how about Street lights stay on even after 12am...always goes eerily dark and seems dangerous..
I know it may cost a lot but how about Street lights stay on even after 12am...always goes eerily dark and seems dangerous.. Michael31
  • Score: 8

11:34am Sat 28 Jun 14

totallyfootball says...

Still clueless from the first murder, how long before they give up and move on? I am waiting for those immortal words we are scaling down, music to the murderers ears!
Still clueless from the first murder, how long before they give up and move on? I am waiting for those immortal words we are scaling down, music to the murderers ears! totallyfootball
  • Score: -1

12:52pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Shoosh1905 wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
born2know wrote:
Mr Honest wrote:
Poor officers picking up all that overtime. My heart bleeds for them!
You T**t
Born2know, I believe you are doing t**ts a great disservice. Ps I have been looking for the Russel, can't find him anywhere. Need to ask him about his disgraceful vote last week against a change in the law to reduce death by knife crime. There's a rumour in another thread that he is hiding in jumbo. Any thoughts?
Yes funny how he's nowhere to be found or comment the sooner we get him out the better. Please all remember this come the election!!
Shoosh, yes time for change from our self serving king Russel. Dont mind who or what party - within reason - as long as they keep in mind they serve the folk of Colchester, and above all have the balls for a fight on our behalf. Was in town this morning - the Russel isn't in jumbo, and I made myself read the entire County Standard - he's even fallen out of that! Still, can't be long before the call of publicity is too strong for him to resist and there will be a pic of him opening something or frowning at a pothole.
[quote][p][bold]Shoosh1905[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]born2know[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Honest[/bold] wrote: Poor officers picking up all that overtime. My heart bleeds for them![/p][/quote]You T**t[/p][/quote]Born2know, I believe you are doing t**ts a great disservice. Ps I have been looking for the Russel, can't find him anywhere. Need to ask him about his disgraceful vote last week against a change in the law to reduce death by knife crime. There's a rumour in another thread that he is hiding in jumbo. Any thoughts?[/p][/quote]Yes funny how he's nowhere to be found or comment the sooner we get him out the better. Please all remember this come the election!![/p][/quote]Shoosh, yes time for change from our self serving king Russel. Dont mind who or what party - within reason - as long as they keep in mind they serve the folk of Colchester, and above all have the balls for a fight on our behalf. Was in town this morning - the Russel isn't in jumbo, and I made myself read the entire County Standard - he's even fallen out of that! Still, can't be long before the call of publicity is too strong for him to resist and there will be a pic of him opening something or frowning at a pothole. Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 16

12:54pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Angry of Lexden says...

HARRY438 wrote:
MooGirl wrote:
I am very reassured with the police presence. And I'm sure a lot of them are pleased to be doing something constructive rather than paperwork. Now let's get the lights turned on again and get back to respecting the people around us and living without fear.
The lights have been turned back on ,in the Dutch Quarter at least.
Remind me who lives in the Dutch quarter?
[quote][p][bold]HARRY438[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MooGirl[/bold] wrote: I am very reassured with the police presence. And I'm sure a lot of them are pleased to be doing something constructive rather than paperwork. Now let's get the lights turned on again and get back to respecting the people around us and living without fear.[/p][/quote]The lights have been turned back on ,in the Dutch Quarter at least.[/p][/quote]Remind me who lives in the Dutch quarter? Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 7

1:27pm Sat 28 Jun 14

HARRY438 says...

Angry of Lexden wrote:
HARRY438 wrote:
MooGirl wrote:
I am very reassured with the police presence. And I'm sure a lot of them are pleased to be doing something constructive rather than paperwork. Now let's get the lights turned on again and get back to respecting the people around us and living without fear.
The lights have been turned back on ,in the Dutch Quarter at least.
Remind me who lives in the Dutch quarter?
Me.
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HARRY438[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MooGirl[/bold] wrote: I am very reassured with the police presence. And I'm sure a lot of them are pleased to be doing something constructive rather than paperwork. Now let's get the lights turned on again and get back to respecting the people around us and living without fear.[/p][/quote]The lights have been turned back on ,in the Dutch Quarter at least.[/p][/quote]Remind me who lives in the Dutch quarter?[/p][/quote]Me. HARRY438
  • Score: 3

1:47pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Reginald47 says...

Shoosh1905 wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
born2know wrote:
Mr Honest wrote: Poor officers picking up all that overtime. My heart bleeds for them!
You T**t
Born2know, I believe you are doing t**ts a great disservice. Ps I have been looking for the Russel, can't find him anywhere. Need to ask him about his disgraceful vote last week against a change in the law to reduce death by knife crime. There's a rumour in another thread that he is hiding in jumbo. Any thoughts?
Yes funny how he's nowhere to be found or comment the sooner we get him out the better. Please all remember this come the election!!
I find this part of the string a bit ridiculous frankly. It is judges who should decide what sentence to pass, not Parliament. Judges hear the case, Parliament doesn't. Making a sentence mandatory is lazy and stupid and takes no account of circumstances.
[quote][p][bold]Shoosh1905[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]born2know[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Honest[/bold] wrote: Poor officers picking up all that overtime. My heart bleeds for them![/p][/quote]You T**t[/p][/quote]Born2know, I believe you are doing t**ts a great disservice. Ps I have been looking for the Russel, can't find him anywhere. Need to ask him about his disgraceful vote last week against a change in the law to reduce death by knife crime. There's a rumour in another thread that he is hiding in jumbo. Any thoughts?[/p][/quote]Yes funny how he's nowhere to be found or comment the sooner we get him out the better. Please all remember this come the election!![/p][/quote]I find this part of the string a bit ridiculous frankly. It is judges who should decide what sentence to pass, not Parliament. Judges hear the case, Parliament doesn't. Making a sentence mandatory is lazy and stupid and takes no account of circumstances. Reginald47
  • Score: -11

1:49pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Reginald47 says...

Michael31 wrote:
I know it may cost a lot but how about Street lights stay on even after 12am...always goes eerily dark and seems dangerous..
Why would you need them on at lunchtime?
[quote][p][bold]Michael31[/bold] wrote: I know it may cost a lot but how about Street lights stay on even after 12am...always goes eerily dark and seems dangerous..[/p][/quote]Why would you need them on at lunchtime? Reginald47
  • Score: -17

1:52pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Reginald47 says...

Angry of Lexden wrote:
HARRY438 wrote:
MooGirl wrote: I am very reassured with the police presence. And I'm sure a lot of them are pleased to be doing something constructive rather than paperwork. Now let's get the lights turned on again and get back to respecting the people around us and living without fear.
The lights have been turned back on ,in the Dutch Quarter at least.
Remind me who lives in the Dutch quarter?
Who does in particular?
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HARRY438[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MooGirl[/bold] wrote: I am very reassured with the police presence. And I'm sure a lot of them are pleased to be doing something constructive rather than paperwork. Now let's get the lights turned on again and get back to respecting the people around us and living without fear.[/p][/quote]The lights have been turned back on ,in the Dutch Quarter at least.[/p][/quote]Remind me who lives in the Dutch quarter?[/p][/quote]Who does in particular? Reginald47
  • Score: -3

2:10pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Reginald47 wrote:
Shoosh1905 wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
born2know wrote:
Mr Honest wrote: Poor officers picking up all that overtime. My heart bleeds for them!
You T**t
Born2know, I believe you are doing t**ts a great disservice. Ps I have been looking for the Russel, can't find him anywhere. Need to ask him about his disgraceful vote last week against a change in the law to reduce death by knife crime. There's a rumour in another thread that he is hiding in jumbo. Any thoughts?
Yes funny how he's nowhere to be found or comment the sooner we get him out the better. Please all remember this come the election!!
I find this part of the string a bit ridiculous frankly. It is judges who should decide what sentence to pass, not Parliament. Judges hear the case, Parliament doesn't. Making a sentence mandatory is lazy and stupid and takes no account of circumstances.
Reg, I personally disagree with you. The existing deterrent is not effective. As I have noted earlier, I would prefer that someone found "accidentally" carrying a knife were jailed. They can always appeal and may be released. On the other hand Jay and his family don't have the option. Perhaps you would relax the gun laws? Guns and knives kill. You will know that Redman told his case worker before he murdered Jay Whiston, that he carried a knife for his on protection. Had the case worker told the police, and had the police been over redman like a rash every time he stepped outside the house, and had there been mandatory and effective sentencing, he just might not have taken the weapon to the party, and Jay's family might not be morning their awful needless loss. Voting against the bill is, in my personal opinion, typical lib dem woolly headed approach to difficult challenges to commit.
[quote][p][bold]Reginald47[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoosh1905[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]born2know[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Honest[/bold] wrote: Poor officers picking up all that overtime. My heart bleeds for them![/p][/quote]You T**t[/p][/quote]Born2know, I believe you are doing t**ts a great disservice. Ps I have been looking for the Russel, can't find him anywhere. Need to ask him about his disgraceful vote last week against a change in the law to reduce death by knife crime. There's a rumour in another thread that he is hiding in jumbo. Any thoughts?[/p][/quote]Yes funny how he's nowhere to be found or comment the sooner we get him out the better. Please all remember this come the election!![/p][/quote]I find this part of the string a bit ridiculous frankly. It is judges who should decide what sentence to pass, not Parliament. Judges hear the case, Parliament doesn't. Making a sentence mandatory is lazy and stupid and takes no account of circumstances.[/p][/quote]Reg, I personally disagree with you. The existing deterrent is not effective. As I have noted earlier, I would prefer that someone found "accidentally" carrying a knife were jailed. They can always appeal and may be released. On the other hand Jay and his family don't have the option. Perhaps you would relax the gun laws? Guns and knives kill. You will know that Redman told his case worker before he murdered Jay Whiston, that he carried a knife for his on protection. Had the case worker told the police, and had the police been over redman like a rash every time he stepped outside the house, and had there been mandatory and effective sentencing, he just might not have taken the weapon to the party, and Jay's family might not be morning their awful needless loss. Voting against the bill is, in my personal opinion, typical lib dem woolly headed approach to difficult challenges to commit. Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 27

2:25pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Angry of Lexden wrote:
Reginald47 wrote:
Shoosh1905 wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
born2know wrote:
Mr Honest wrote: Poor officers picking up all that overtime. My heart bleeds for them!
You T**t
Born2know, I believe you are doing t**ts a great disservice. Ps I have been looking for the Russel, can't find him anywhere. Need to ask him about his disgraceful vote last week against a change in the law to reduce death by knife crime. There's a rumour in another thread that he is hiding in jumbo. Any thoughts?
Yes funny how he's nowhere to be found or comment the sooner we get him out the better. Please all remember this come the election!!
I find this part of the string a bit ridiculous frankly. It is judges who should decide what sentence to pass, not Parliament. Judges hear the case, Parliament doesn't. Making a sentence mandatory is lazy and stupid and takes no account of circumstances.
Reg, I personally disagree with you. The existing deterrent is not effective. As I have noted earlier, I would prefer that someone found "accidentally" carrying a knife were jailed. They can always appeal and may be released. On the other hand Jay and his family don't have the option. Perhaps you would relax the gun laws? Guns and knives kill. You will know that Redman told his case worker before he murdered Jay Whiston, that he carried a knife for his on protection. Had the case worker told the police, and had the police been over redman like a rash every time he stepped outside the house, and had there been mandatory and effective sentencing, he just might not have taken the weapon to the party, and Jay's family might not be morning their awful needless loss. Voting against the bill is, in my personal opinion, typical lib dem woolly headed approach to difficult challenges to commit.
Ps Reg, I'm guessing you might know where the Russel is hiding, am I right? Or am I right? Thing is he seems to have vanished since the vote.

Has the truth of his failure to support the folk of Colchester he is tasked with representing struck home? Has shame replaced bombast?
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reginald47[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoosh1905[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]born2know[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Honest[/bold] wrote: Poor officers picking up all that overtime. My heart bleeds for them![/p][/quote]You T**t[/p][/quote]Born2know, I believe you are doing t**ts a great disservice. Ps I have been looking for the Russel, can't find him anywhere. Need to ask him about his disgraceful vote last week against a change in the law to reduce death by knife crime. There's a rumour in another thread that he is hiding in jumbo. Any thoughts?[/p][/quote]Yes funny how he's nowhere to be found or comment the sooner we get him out the better. Please all remember this come the election!![/p][/quote]I find this part of the string a bit ridiculous frankly. It is judges who should decide what sentence to pass, not Parliament. Judges hear the case, Parliament doesn't. Making a sentence mandatory is lazy and stupid and takes no account of circumstances.[/p][/quote]Reg, I personally disagree with you. The existing deterrent is not effective. As I have noted earlier, I would prefer that someone found "accidentally" carrying a knife were jailed. They can always appeal and may be released. On the other hand Jay and his family don't have the option. Perhaps you would relax the gun laws? Guns and knives kill. You will know that Redman told his case worker before he murdered Jay Whiston, that he carried a knife for his on protection. Had the case worker told the police, and had the police been over redman like a rash every time he stepped outside the house, and had there been mandatory and effective sentencing, he just might not have taken the weapon to the party, and Jay's family might not be morning their awful needless loss. Voting against the bill is, in my personal opinion, typical lib dem woolly headed approach to difficult challenges to commit.[/p][/quote]Ps Reg, I'm guessing you might know where the Russel is hiding, am I right? Or am I right? Thing is he seems to have vanished since the vote. Has the truth of his failure to support the folk of Colchester he is tasked with representing struck home? Has shame replaced bombast? Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 16

2:25pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Angry of Lexden wrote:
Reginald47 wrote:
Shoosh1905 wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
born2know wrote:
Mr Honest wrote: Poor officers picking up all that overtime. My heart bleeds for them!
You T**t
Born2know, I believe you are doing t**ts a great disservice. Ps I have been looking for the Russel, can't find him anywhere. Need to ask him about his disgraceful vote last week against a change in the law to reduce death by knife crime. There's a rumour in another thread that he is hiding in jumbo. Any thoughts?
Yes funny how he's nowhere to be found or comment the sooner we get him out the better. Please all remember this come the election!!
I find this part of the string a bit ridiculous frankly. It is judges who should decide what sentence to pass, not Parliament. Judges hear the case, Parliament doesn't. Making a sentence mandatory is lazy and stupid and takes no account of circumstances.
Reg, I personally disagree with you. The existing deterrent is not effective. As I have noted earlier, I would prefer that someone found "accidentally" carrying a knife were jailed. They can always appeal and may be released. On the other hand Jay and his family don't have the option. Perhaps you would relax the gun laws? Guns and knives kill. You will know that Redman told his case worker before he murdered Jay Whiston, that he carried a knife for his on protection. Had the case worker told the police, and had the police been over redman like a rash every time he stepped outside the house, and had there been mandatory and effective sentencing, he just might not have taken the weapon to the party, and Jay's family might not be morning their awful needless loss. Voting against the bill is, in my personal opinion, typical lib dem woolly headed approach to difficult challenges to commit.
Ps Reg, I'm guessing you might know where the Russel is hiding, am I right? Or am I right? Thing is he seems to have vanished since the vote.

Has the truth of his failure to support the folk of Colchester he is tasked with representing struck home? Has shame replaced bombast?
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reginald47[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoosh1905[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]born2know[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Honest[/bold] wrote: Poor officers picking up all that overtime. My heart bleeds for them![/p][/quote]You T**t[/p][/quote]Born2know, I believe you are doing t**ts a great disservice. Ps I have been looking for the Russel, can't find him anywhere. Need to ask him about his disgraceful vote last week against a change in the law to reduce death by knife crime. There's a rumour in another thread that he is hiding in jumbo. Any thoughts?[/p][/quote]Yes funny how he's nowhere to be found or comment the sooner we get him out the better. Please all remember this come the election!![/p][/quote]I find this part of the string a bit ridiculous frankly. It is judges who should decide what sentence to pass, not Parliament. Judges hear the case, Parliament doesn't. Making a sentence mandatory is lazy and stupid and takes no account of circumstances.[/p][/quote]Reg, I personally disagree with you. The existing deterrent is not effective. As I have noted earlier, I would prefer that someone found "accidentally" carrying a knife were jailed. They can always appeal and may be released. On the other hand Jay and his family don't have the option. Perhaps you would relax the gun laws? Guns and knives kill. You will know that Redman told his case worker before he murdered Jay Whiston, that he carried a knife for his on protection. Had the case worker told the police, and had the police been over redman like a rash every time he stepped outside the house, and had there been mandatory and effective sentencing, he just might not have taken the weapon to the party, and Jay's family might not be morning their awful needless loss. Voting against the bill is, in my personal opinion, typical lib dem woolly headed approach to difficult challenges to commit.[/p][/quote]Ps Reg, I'm guessing you might know where the Russel is hiding, am I right? Or am I right? Thing is he seems to have vanished since the vote. Has the truth of his failure to support the folk of Colchester he is tasked with representing struck home? Has shame replaced bombast? Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 18

11:17pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Baba O'Reilly says...

Reginald47 wrote:
Michael31 wrote:
I know it may cost a lot but how about Street lights stay on even after 12am...always goes eerily dark and seems dangerous..
Why would you need them on at lunchtime?
Lunchtime is 12pm
[quote][p][bold]Reginald47[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael31[/bold] wrote: I know it may cost a lot but how about Street lights stay on even after 12am...always goes eerily dark and seems dangerous..[/p][/quote]Why would you need them on at lunchtime?[/p][/quote]Lunchtime is 12pm Baba O'Reilly
  • Score: 8

6:43am Sun 29 Jun 14

Say It As It Is OK? says...

Shoosh1905 wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
born2know wrote:
Mr Honest wrote:
Poor officers picking up all that overtime. My heart bleeds for them!
You T**t
Born2know, I believe you are doing t**ts a great disservice. Ps I have been looking for the Russel, can't find him anywhere. Need to ask him about his disgraceful vote last week against a change in the law to reduce death by knife crime. There's a rumour in another thread that he is hiding in jumbo. Any thoughts?
Yes funny how he's nowhere to be found or comment the sooner we get him out the better. Please all remember this come the election!!
He's most probably been on one of his tax payer funded jaunts representing the Commons Defence Select Committee. The most recent to Latvia.

Bob always does what he does best and keeps his head below the parapet whenever the flak hits the proverbial!
[quote][p][bold]Shoosh1905[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]born2know[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Honest[/bold] wrote: Poor officers picking up all that overtime. My heart bleeds for them![/p][/quote]You T**t[/p][/quote]Born2know, I believe you are doing t**ts a great disservice. Ps I have been looking for the Russel, can't find him anywhere. Need to ask him about his disgraceful vote last week against a change in the law to reduce death by knife crime. There's a rumour in another thread that he is hiding in jumbo. Any thoughts?[/p][/quote]Yes funny how he's nowhere to be found or comment the sooner we get him out the better. Please all remember this come the election!![/p][/quote]He's most probably been on one of his tax payer funded jaunts representing the Commons Defence Select Committee. The most recent to Latvia. Bob always does what he does best and keeps his head below the parapet whenever the flak hits the proverbial! Say It As It Is OK?
  • Score: 8

1:58pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Say It As It Is OK? wrote:
Shoosh1905 wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
born2know wrote:
Mr Honest wrote:
Poor officers picking up all that overtime. My heart bleeds for them!
You T**t
Born2know, I believe you are doing t**ts a great disservice. Ps I have been looking for the Russel, can't find him anywhere. Need to ask him about his disgraceful vote last week against a change in the law to reduce death by knife crime. There's a rumour in another thread that he is hiding in jumbo. Any thoughts?
Yes funny how he's nowhere to be found or comment the sooner we get him out the better. Please all remember this come the election!!
He's most probably been on one of his tax payer funded jaunts representing the Commons Defence Select Committee. The most recent to Latvia.

Bob always does what he does best and keeps his head below the parapet whenever the flak hits the proverbial!
Any chance we could make it a one way ticket next time? I believe there is a thriving second hand weapon exchange market in Colombia. King Bob has a duty to explore any savings.
[quote][p][bold]Say It As It Is OK?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoosh1905[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]born2know[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Honest[/bold] wrote: Poor officers picking up all that overtime. My heart bleeds for them![/p][/quote]You T**t[/p][/quote]Born2know, I believe you are doing t**ts a great disservice. Ps I have been looking for the Russel, can't find him anywhere. Need to ask him about his disgraceful vote last week against a change in the law to reduce death by knife crime. There's a rumour in another thread that he is hiding in jumbo. Any thoughts?[/p][/quote]Yes funny how he's nowhere to be found or comment the sooner we get him out the better. Please all remember this come the election!![/p][/quote]He's most probably been on one of his tax payer funded jaunts representing the Commons Defence Select Committee. The most recent to Latvia. Bob always does what he does best and keeps his head below the parapet whenever the flak hits the proverbial![/p][/quote]Any chance we could make it a one way ticket next time? I believe there is a thriving second hand weapon exchange market in Colombia. King Bob has a duty to explore any savings. Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 4

4:09pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Reginald47 says...

Angry of Lexden wrote:
Reginald47 wrote:
Shoosh1905 wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
born2know wrote:
Mr Honest wrote: Poor officers picking up all that overtime. My heart bleeds for them!
You T**t
Born2know, I believe you are doing t**ts a great disservice. Ps I have been looking for the Russel, can't find him anywhere. Need to ask him about his disgraceful vote last week against a change in the law to reduce death by knife crime. There's a rumour in another thread that he is hiding in jumbo. Any thoughts?
Yes funny how he's nowhere to be found or comment the sooner we get him out the better. Please all remember this come the election!!
I find this part of the string a bit ridiculous frankly. It is judges who should decide what sentence to pass, not Parliament. Judges hear the case, Parliament doesn't. Making a sentence mandatory is lazy and stupid and takes no account of circumstances.
Reg, I personally disagree with you. The existing deterrent is not effective. As I have noted earlier, I would prefer that someone found "accidentally" carrying a knife were jailed. They can always appeal and may be released. On the other hand Jay and his family don't have the option. Perhaps you would relax the gun laws? Guns and knives kill. You will know that Redman told his case worker before he murdered Jay Whiston, that he carried a knife for his on protection. Had the case worker told the police, and had the police been over redman like a rash every time he stepped outside the house, and had there been mandatory and effective sentencing, he just might not have taken the weapon to the party, and Jay's family might not be morning their awful needless loss. Voting against the bill is, in my personal opinion, typical lib dem woolly headed approach to difficult challenges to commit.
I'm glad that we can at least disagree politely. We are nor so far apart. The proposal as I understand it is that a jail sentence would be mandatory for a second offence. I object to the absoluteness of that. I would prefer it to be a mandatory jail sentence unless the judge finds circumstances for that not to be the case. I am confidenht that in Jay's case the judge would not have found an exception.
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reginald47[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoosh1905[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]born2know[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Honest[/bold] wrote: Poor officers picking up all that overtime. My heart bleeds for them![/p][/quote]You T**t[/p][/quote]Born2know, I believe you are doing t**ts a great disservice. Ps I have been looking for the Russel, can't find him anywhere. Need to ask him about his disgraceful vote last week against a change in the law to reduce death by knife crime. There's a rumour in another thread that he is hiding in jumbo. Any thoughts?[/p][/quote]Yes funny how he's nowhere to be found or comment the sooner we get him out the better. Please all remember this come the election!![/p][/quote]I find this part of the string a bit ridiculous frankly. It is judges who should decide what sentence to pass, not Parliament. Judges hear the case, Parliament doesn't. Making a sentence mandatory is lazy and stupid and takes no account of circumstances.[/p][/quote]Reg, I personally disagree with you. The existing deterrent is not effective. As I have noted earlier, I would prefer that someone found "accidentally" carrying a knife were jailed. They can always appeal and may be released. On the other hand Jay and his family don't have the option. Perhaps you would relax the gun laws? Guns and knives kill. You will know that Redman told his case worker before he murdered Jay Whiston, that he carried a knife for his on protection. Had the case worker told the police, and had the police been over redman like a rash every time he stepped outside the house, and had there been mandatory and effective sentencing, he just might not have taken the weapon to the party, and Jay's family might not be morning their awful needless loss. Voting against the bill is, in my personal opinion, typical lib dem woolly headed approach to difficult challenges to commit.[/p][/quote]I'm glad that we can at least disagree politely. We are nor so far apart. The proposal as I understand it is that a jail sentence would be mandatory for a second offence. I object to the absoluteness of that. I would prefer it to be a mandatory jail sentence unless the judge finds circumstances for that not to be the case. I am confidenht that in Jay's case the judge would not have found an exception. Reginald47
  • Score: 0

4:14pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Reginald47 says...

Baba O'Reilly wrote:
Reginald47 wrote:
Michael31 wrote: I know it may cost a lot but how about Street lights stay on even after 12am...always goes eerily dark and seems dangerous..
Why would you need them on at lunchtime?
Lunchtime is 12pm
Lunchtime is am until 12.01 when it becomes pm. Depends on what time you have lunch!
[quote][p][bold]Baba O'Reilly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reginald47[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael31[/bold] wrote: I know it may cost a lot but how about Street lights stay on even after 12am...always goes eerily dark and seems dangerous..[/p][/quote]Why would you need them on at lunchtime?[/p][/quote]Lunchtime is 12pm[/p][/quote]Lunchtime is am until 12.01 when it becomes pm. Depends on what time you have lunch! Reginald47
  • Score: -6

5:39pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Reginald47 wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
Reginald47 wrote:
Shoosh1905 wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
born2know wrote:
Mr Honest wrote: Poor officers picking up all that overtime. My heart bleeds for them!
You T**t
Born2know, I believe you are doing t**ts a great disservice. Ps I have been looking for the Russel, can't find him anywhere. Need to ask him about his disgraceful vote last week against a change in the law to reduce death by knife crime. There's a rumour in another thread that he is hiding in jumbo. Any thoughts?
Yes funny how he's nowhere to be found or comment the sooner we get him out the better. Please all remember this come the election!!
I find this part of the string a bit ridiculous frankly. It is judges who should decide what sentence to pass, not Parliament. Judges hear the case, Parliament doesn't. Making a sentence mandatory is lazy and stupid and takes no account of circumstances.
Reg, I personally disagree with you. The existing deterrent is not effective. As I have noted earlier, I would prefer that someone found "accidentally" carrying a knife were jailed. They can always appeal and may be released. On the other hand Jay and his family don't have the option. Perhaps you would relax the gun laws? Guns and knives kill. You will know that Redman told his case worker before he murdered Jay Whiston, that he carried a knife for his on protection. Had the case worker told the police, and had the police been over redman like a rash every time he stepped outside the house, and had there been mandatory and effective sentencing, he just might not have taken the weapon to the party, and Jay's family might not be morning their awful needless loss. Voting against the bill is, in my personal opinion, typical lib dem woolly headed approach to difficult challenges to commit.
I'm glad that we can at least disagree politely. We are nor so far apart. The proposal as I understand it is that a jail sentence would be mandatory for a second offence. I object to the absoluteness of that. I would prefer it to be a mandatory jail sentence unless the judge finds circumstances for that not to be the case. I am confidenht that in Jay's case the judge would not have found an exception.
Reg, I've given you three votes, perhaps we are not that far apart. However my mind is clear, in that whatever the final detail if the new law, the result must be a powerful loud message that leaves all in no doubt that if caught a second time carrying a knife it will hurt a lot.
We just have to keep our focus on our responsibility to unstich all aspects that led to Jay's untimely death.
Just think of those last seconds, paralysed with the realisation he was dying and there was nothing he could do to change it. We must not let this happen again by lack of early intervention and action.

If you consider the various factors leading to Jay's last heart beat, the irony is that not only did we let Jay down, we also allowed Redman end up in a bad place.

I will not accept that stronger deterrents delivered in Redman's early career of crime, would not have reduced the chance of him carrying a knife that knight.

Incidentally, one of my friends son's was horrified last year to find he was standing on Colchester station platform next to one if the monsters who killed that young mum a few years ago. The killer taunted my friend's son with a smirk when he realised he had been recognised. The murderer could easily have stood next to his victims kids.
[quote][p][bold]Reginald47[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reginald47[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoosh1905[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]born2know[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Honest[/bold] wrote: Poor officers picking up all that overtime. My heart bleeds for them![/p][/quote]You T**t[/p][/quote]Born2know, I believe you are doing t**ts a great disservice. Ps I have been looking for the Russel, can't find him anywhere. Need to ask him about his disgraceful vote last week against a change in the law to reduce death by knife crime. There's a rumour in another thread that he is hiding in jumbo. Any thoughts?[/p][/quote]Yes funny how he's nowhere to be found or comment the sooner we get him out the better. Please all remember this come the election!![/p][/quote]I find this part of the string a bit ridiculous frankly. It is judges who should decide what sentence to pass, not Parliament. Judges hear the case, Parliament doesn't. Making a sentence mandatory is lazy and stupid and takes no account of circumstances.[/p][/quote]Reg, I personally disagree with you. The existing deterrent is not effective. As I have noted earlier, I would prefer that someone found "accidentally" carrying a knife were jailed. They can always appeal and may be released. On the other hand Jay and his family don't have the option. Perhaps you would relax the gun laws? Guns and knives kill. You will know that Redman told his case worker before he murdered Jay Whiston, that he carried a knife for his on protection. Had the case worker told the police, and had the police been over redman like a rash every time he stepped outside the house, and had there been mandatory and effective sentencing, he just might not have taken the weapon to the party, and Jay's family might not be morning their awful needless loss. Voting against the bill is, in my personal opinion, typical lib dem woolly headed approach to difficult challenges to commit.[/p][/quote]I'm glad that we can at least disagree politely. We are nor so far apart. The proposal as I understand it is that a jail sentence would be mandatory for a second offence. I object to the absoluteness of that. I would prefer it to be a mandatory jail sentence unless the judge finds circumstances for that not to be the case. I am confidenht that in Jay's case the judge would not have found an exception.[/p][/quote]Reg, I've given you three votes, perhaps we are not that far apart. However my mind is clear, in that whatever the final detail if the new law, the result must be a powerful loud message that leaves all in no doubt that if caught a second time carrying a knife it will hurt a lot. We just have to keep our focus on our responsibility to unstich all aspects that led to Jay's untimely death. Just think of those last seconds, paralysed with the realisation he was dying and there was nothing he could do to change it. We must not let this happen again by lack of early intervention and action. If you consider the various factors leading to Jay's last heart beat, the irony is that not only did we let Jay down, we also allowed Redman end up in a bad place. I will not accept that stronger deterrents delivered in Redman's early career of crime, would not have reduced the chance of him carrying a knife that knight. Incidentally, one of my friends son's was horrified last year to find he was standing on Colchester station platform next to one if the monsters who killed that young mum a few years ago. The killer taunted my friend's son with a smirk when he realised he had been recognised. The murderer could easily have stood next to his victims kids. Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 20

11:25pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Reginald47 says...

You make a very persuasive case. As for our MP, I last saw him on Monday when he was pictured at the Arrmed Forrces Day flag raising.
You make a very persuasive case. As for our MP, I last saw him on Monday when he was pictured at the Arrmed Forrces Day flag raising. Reginald47
  • Score: -3

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