European election results: UKIP most popular in Colchester

Gazette: European election results: UKIP most popular in Colchester European election results: UKIP most popular in Colchester

UKIP was the most popular party among Colchester voters in this year's European election.

In total, 35 per cent of counted votes in the borough went to the party, which won three out of the seven available seats for the East of England.

In Colchester, the Conservatives won 28 per cent of the vote and Labour received 15 per cent.

The Liberal Democrats got 11 per cent of votes and the Green Party won ten per cent.

In total, 45,439 voters in Colchester took part in Thursday's poll.

East of England results - elected MEPs

John Agnew (UKIP)

Tim Aker (UKIP)

Patrick O'Flynn (UKIP)

David Campbell Bannerman (Conservative)

Vicky Ford (Conservative)

Geoffrey Van Orden (Conservative)

Richard Howitt (Labour)

European election votes in Colchester borough

An Independence from Europe: 695

British National Party: 294

Christian Peoples Alliance: 317

Conservative Party: 12,680

English Democrats: 542

Green Party: 4,543

Labour Party: 6,715

Liberal Democrats: 5,049

NO2EU: 115

UK Independence Party (UKIP): 14,489

Total: 45,439

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11:18pm Sun 25 May 14

wormshero says...

Fair play. I hope with them having more seats as MEPs they actually do the job people chose them to do and actually turn up and influence decisions to our advantage, rather than what they have been doing; nothing. It still confuses me why ukip voters moan about the eu yet want a party who won't even attempt to influnce the EU to represent them.
Fair play. I hope with them having more seats as MEPs they actually do the job people chose them to do and actually turn up and influence decisions to our advantage, rather than what they have been doing; nothing. It still confuses me why ukip voters moan about the eu yet want a party who won't even attempt to influnce the EU to represent them. wormshero
  • Score: 9

11:44pm Sun 25 May 14

Common Sense Voter says...

The whole point of electing UKIP MEP's is for them to DESTROY the EU. UKIP don't agree with the EU ruling us. People want laws made in Westminster not Brussels and the people have spoked and demanded our withdrawal from the most appallingly corrupt institution ever invented.
The whole point of electing UKIP MEP's is for them to DESTROY the EU. UKIP don't agree with the EU ruling us. People want laws made in Westminster not Brussels and the people have spoked and demanded our withdrawal from the most appallingly corrupt institution ever invented. Common Sense Voter
  • Score: 22

12:28am Mon 26 May 14

Reginald47 says...

Don't worry - they are against the amount the EU costs for Britain, but that won't stop them sucking as much out of it in allowances and expenses as they can get away with. Unless, of course, they're honest and refuse to take it. We'll see, but don't hold your breath!
Don't worry - they are against the amount the EU costs for Britain, but that won't stop them sucking as much out of it in allowances and expenses as they can get away with. Unless, of course, they're honest and refuse to take it. We'll see, but don't hold your breath! Reginald47
  • Score: -9

1:13am Mon 26 May 14

wormshero says...

Common Sense Voter wrote:
The whole point of electing UKIP MEP's is for them to DESTROY the EU. UKIP don't agree with the EU ruling us. People want laws made in Westminster not Brussels and the people have spoked and demanded our withdrawal from the most appallingly corrupt institution ever invented.
No, people haven't spoken for that at all. People made a protest vote at a time when people are struggling due to poor decisions from the current party, hence it being the MEP elections and not even the local ones. It's ridiculous, people complain the EU rule over us and that they want it to be our say, but they've decided that to do this their best bet is to lose our say by choosing people who have proven they won't stand up for us, and seem proud of that fact. That and, despite the made up 75% statistic, most of our laws are made in westminster anyway. You get some working laws (y'know, stuff like redundancy pay minimums, maternity leave, stating that there should be possibilities for training where possible, all those evil things), fishing laws (I personally agree some of these are wrong, but then despite speaking out about them ukip meps didn't bother voting, so I presume they don't care). They ban selling weapons of torture, so maybe that annoys a few people? Oh, i guess they also enforce standards of donor organs, which I suppose would upset people who wanted to sell their dodgy organs without use of the black market. What laws from brussels actually annoy people anyway then?
[quote][p][bold]Common Sense Voter[/bold] wrote: The whole point of electing UKIP MEP's is for them to DESTROY the EU. UKIP don't agree with the EU ruling us. People want laws made in Westminster not Brussels and the people have spoked and demanded our withdrawal from the most appallingly corrupt institution ever invented.[/p][/quote]No, people haven't spoken for that at all. People made a protest vote at a time when people are struggling due to poor decisions from the current party, hence it being the MEP elections and not even the local ones. It's ridiculous, people complain the EU rule over us and that they want it to be our say, but they've decided that to do this their best bet is to lose our say by choosing people who have proven they won't stand up for us, and seem proud of that fact. That and, despite the made up 75% statistic, most of our laws are made in westminster anyway. You get some working laws (y'know, stuff like redundancy pay minimums, maternity leave, stating that there should be possibilities for training where possible, all those evil things), fishing laws (I personally agree some of these are wrong, but then despite speaking out about them ukip meps didn't bother voting, so I presume they don't care). They ban selling weapons of torture, so maybe that annoys a few people? Oh, i guess they also enforce standards of donor organs, which I suppose would upset people who wanted to sell their dodgy organs without use of the black market. What laws from brussels actually annoy people anyway then? wormshero
  • Score: -5

3:02am Mon 26 May 14

Boris says...

UKIP are a flash in the pan. They will not get a single MP elected next year. It is just a protest vote by people who believe the Daily Hate Mail rather than the evidence of their own eyes.
It is a pity that serious EU elections are hijacked by these clowns from UKIP.
UKIP are a flash in the pan. They will not get a single MP elected next year. It is just a protest vote by people who believe the Daily Hate Mail rather than the evidence of their own eyes. It is a pity that serious EU elections are hijacked by these clowns from UKIP. Boris
  • Score: -24

6:31am Mon 26 May 14

seikothrill says...

What concerned me is that there were still 294 BNP voters.

Well done UKIP - you won the vote but can you deliver for the benefit of the UK. Time will tell
What concerned me is that there were still 294 BNP voters. Well done UKIP - you won the vote but can you deliver for the benefit of the UK. Time will tell seikothrill
  • Score: 11

6:41am Mon 26 May 14

Shrubendlad says...

BORIS///////
Will Sirbobalob lose his deposit next year?
What a Yellow disaster!!
BORIS/////// Will Sirbobalob lose his deposit next year? What a Yellow disaster!! Shrubendlad
  • Score: 0

7:03am Mon 26 May 14

Ethnic-Minority says...

What a joke and an utter fiasco, where it counted you voted for your own, where it did not, you voted for UKIP as a cowardly protest vote to get your own point of view across. Probably one of the most racist borough's in the Country you vote UKIP in a Euro Election. I worked for the then Essex Racial Equality Council in south Essex back in the early 90's. They had three categories of Ethnic Minority, CAT 1 was Visibly Ethnic by colour and creed and by name. CAT 2 Partially Visible by appearance and name. CAT 3. Visible by name only or not by name, or appearance and name. In their format I am a Cat 2 E.M. I have never come across such a bunch of closet, subconscious, esoteric, self protectionist racists, in all my life such as people in this community, how many in the categories above are working in the council or Essex police as a pro rata proportion of the Colchester populous? How many elected councillors and representatives do you have in the borough or county in any of the above categories? Years ago you refused to twin with an Italian Town because you said it was over a horse race. The borough then picked the capitol of an independent principality state in Italy to twin with, as oppose to another straight forward town located in Italy. You lot are all in denial, or that is what you say in front of us to our face, behind our backs is a different story and this current vote rests my case in point on the issue. The member and canvasser of the white supremacists, who owns a shop in lion walk we know about you? A number of members of the BNP and the EDL, that work in the public sector in various official levy and adjudicatory bodies, we know about you lot as well. This vote has stereo-typified and outed the views around here, thank you very much indeed on behalf of all blacks and foreigners living in the town.
What a joke and an utter fiasco, where it counted you voted for your own, where it did not, you voted for UKIP as a cowardly protest vote to get your own point of view across. Probably one of the most racist borough's in the Country you vote UKIP in a Euro Election. I worked for the then Essex Racial Equality Council in south Essex back in the early 90's. They had three categories of Ethnic Minority, CAT 1 was Visibly Ethnic by colour and creed and by name. CAT 2 Partially Visible by appearance and name. CAT 3. Visible by name only or not by name, or appearance and name. In their format I am a Cat 2 E.M. I have never come across such a bunch of closet, subconscious, esoteric, self protectionist racists, in all my life such as people in this community, how many in the categories above are working in the council or Essex police as a pro rata proportion of the Colchester populous? How many elected councillors and representatives do you have in the borough or county in any of the above categories? Years ago you refused to twin with an Italian Town because you said it was over a horse race. The borough then picked the capitol of an independent principality state in Italy to twin with, as oppose to another straight forward town located in Italy. You lot are all in denial, or that is what you say in front of us to our face, behind our backs is a different story and this current vote rests my case in point on the issue. The member and canvasser of the white supremacists, who owns a shop in lion walk we know about you? A number of members of the BNP and the EDL, that work in the public sector in various official levy and adjudicatory bodies, we know about you lot as well. This vote has stereo-typified and outed the views around here, thank you very much indeed on behalf of all blacks and foreigners living in the town. Ethnic-Minority
  • Score: -33

7:18am Mon 26 May 14

Shrubendlad says...

What has Ethnic-Minority got to do with this?
Its about 43 years of Sirbobalob.
Its about his Pro Europe stance instead of Potholes and Bus stops.
Its about the Greens and UKIP targeting Colchester wards next year.
Its about Mile End and New Town going UKIP and Green.
What has Ethnic-Minority got to do with this? Its about 43 years of Sirbobalob. Its about his Pro Europe stance instead of Potholes and Bus stops. Its about the Greens and UKIP targeting Colchester wards next year. Its about Mile End and New Town going UKIP and Green. Shrubendlad
  • Score: 12

8:18am Mon 26 May 14

plebian_dissenter says...

45,439 votes, eh. What's that? Around 33% (if someone has the actual percentage, please let us know) of eligible voters? If so, the way I look at it is that two-thirds of people didn't vote at all. Two thirds of people were not inspired by or interested in any of the candidates or indeed the political process as a whole. And I don't blame them, when the only issue being presented in mainstream media or indeed by flyers through the letterbox is misinformation and outright propaganda regarding immigration. The vote should be declared null and void until at least 51% of the electorate actually vote, then we can say there is some legitimate form of representation.
45,439 votes, eh. What's that? Around 33% (if someone has the actual percentage, please let us know) of eligible voters? If so, the way I look at it is that two-thirds of people didn't vote at all. Two thirds of people were not inspired by or interested in any of the candidates or indeed the political process as a whole. And I don't blame them, when the only issue being presented in mainstream media or indeed by flyers through the letterbox is misinformation and outright propaganda regarding immigration. The vote should be declared null and void until at least 51% of the electorate actually vote, then we can say there is some legitimate form of representation. plebian_dissenter
  • Score: -18

8:27am Mon 26 May 14

plebian_dissenter says...

UKIP is a party of lying, hate-mongering, xenophobes with no policies or a clue how to address any of the issues they purport to champion. Let's be clear, if you voted for UKIP, in spite of how you might attempt to justify it to yourself, you are a bigoted and uneducated buffoon masquerading as a reasoned moderate. Your political views are extremist and you are prejudiced against other people for reasons based on lies that you are too blinkered and narrow-minded to see through, and too indoctrinated by to change. What a disgrace you all are.
UKIP is a party of lying, hate-mongering, xenophobes with no policies or a clue how to address any of the issues they purport to champion. Let's be clear, if you voted for UKIP, in spite of how you might attempt to justify it to yourself, you are a bigoted and uneducated buffoon masquerading as a reasoned moderate. Your political views are extremist and you are prejudiced against other people for reasons based on lies that you are too blinkered and narrow-minded to see through, and too indoctrinated by to change. What a disgrace you all are. plebian_dissenter
  • Score: -39

9:01am Mon 26 May 14

Shrubendlad says...

PD//
I didn't vote UKIP. And friends who did are not hate-mongering,xenop
hones.
They just want a say in who runs their lives!! They want to elect people of their own generation-not elderly has-beens.
PD// I didn't vote UKIP. And friends who did are not hate-mongering,xenop hones. They just want a say in who runs their lives!! They want to elect people of their own generation-not elderly has-beens. Shrubendlad
  • Score: 11

9:39am Mon 26 May 14

Carlosfandangles says...

Good to see those who are upset by the ukip success are reverting to type and throwing accusations of bigotry and racism to decent folk with no evidence to support such a sweeping statement. These same people simply exercised their democratic right to vote. Nothing more, nothing less. Keyboard warriors who are simply throwing their toys out of their pram.
Will the ukip vote translate into mps next year. Unlikely but it will focus the minds of the main parties and hopefully hasten the demise of the duplicitous lib dems......
Good to see those who are upset by the ukip success are reverting to type and throwing accusations of bigotry and racism to decent folk with no evidence to support such a sweeping statement. These same people simply exercised their democratic right to vote. Nothing more, nothing less. Keyboard warriors who are simply throwing their toys out of their pram. Will the ukip vote translate into mps next year. Unlikely but it will focus the minds of the main parties and hopefully hasten the demise of the duplicitous lib dems...... Carlosfandangles
  • Score: 18

9:59am Mon 26 May 14

Mark Goacher says...

Very disappointed that Rupert Read didn't get elected as Green MEP as the EU does need serious reform. The Conservative and Labour MEPs would keep it exactly as it is. Regarding UKIP, the vast majority of their voters are not racist, bigots or whatever and its self-defeating to just hurl abuse at them. There are genuine concerns out there about levels of net migration, wage levels, over-development and a sense that the UK government isn't running the country. We need to address those concerns and we in other parties need to avoid insulting the electorate.
Very disappointed that Rupert Read didn't get elected as Green MEP as the EU does need serious reform. The Conservative and Labour MEPs would keep it exactly as it is. Regarding UKIP, the vast majority of their voters are not racist, bigots or whatever and its self-defeating to just hurl abuse at them. There are genuine concerns out there about levels of net migration, wage levels, over-development and a sense that the UK government isn't running the country. We need to address those concerns and we in other parties need to avoid insulting the electorate. Mark Goacher
  • Score: 17

11:29am Mon 26 May 14

Shrubendlad says...

No doubt Cllr Hunt will be on here soon.
Cllr Hunt is a well respected,hard working Yellow who has the experience and age to be a parliamentary candidate. But when you cant tell a Mill Lane rat run from a Jumbo mistake-there is no hope.
No doubt Cllr Hunt will be on here soon. Cllr Hunt is a well respected,hard working Yellow who has the experience and age to be a parliamentary candidate. But when you cant tell a Mill Lane rat run from a Jumbo mistake-there is no hope. Shrubendlad
  • Score: -2

12:03pm Mon 26 May 14

Jess Jephcott says...

Who has come out of all this with dignity?
Who has come out of all this with dignity? Jess Jephcott
  • Score: 0

1:35pm Mon 26 May 14

Reginald47 says...

Carlosfandangles wrote:
Good to see those who are upset by the ukip success are reverting to type and throwing accusations of bigotry and racism to decent folk with no evidence to support such a sweeping statement. These same people simply exercised their democratic right to vote. Nothing more, nothing less. Keyboard warriors who are simply throwing their toys out of their pram. Will the ukip vote translate into mps next year. Unlikely but it will focus the minds of the main parties and hopefully hasten the demise of the duplicitous lib dems......
The evidence is in UKIP's leaflets for all to read.
[quote][p][bold]Carlosfandangles[/bold] wrote: Good to see those who are upset by the ukip success are reverting to type and throwing accusations of bigotry and racism to decent folk with no evidence to support such a sweeping statement. These same people simply exercised their democratic right to vote. Nothing more, nothing less. Keyboard warriors who are simply throwing their toys out of their pram. Will the ukip vote translate into mps next year. Unlikely but it will focus the minds of the main parties and hopefully hasten the demise of the duplicitous lib dems......[/p][/quote]The evidence is in UKIP's leaflets for all to read. Reginald47
  • Score: -8

1:43pm Mon 26 May 14

Cllr Martin Hunt says...

Shrubendlad wrote:
No doubt Cllr Hunt will be on here soon. Cllr Hunt is a well respected,hard working Yellow who has the experience and age to be a parliamentary candidate. But when you cant tell a Mill Lane rat run from a Jumbo mistake-there is no hope.
I was going to steer clear of this, but thanks for the first two sentences although I have no wish to be an MP. Can you explain the Mill Lane rat run please - I think I get the Jumbo bit!
[quote][p][bold]Shrubendlad[/bold] wrote: No doubt Cllr Hunt will be on here soon. Cllr Hunt is a well respected,hard working Yellow who has the experience and age to be a parliamentary candidate. But when you cant tell a Mill Lane rat run from a Jumbo mistake-there is no hope.[/p][/quote]I was going to steer clear of this, but thanks for the first two sentences although I have no wish to be an MP. Can you explain the Mill Lane rat run please - I think I get the Jumbo bit! Cllr Martin Hunt
  • Score: -2

4:01pm Mon 26 May 14

oOI Daza IOo says...

Jess Jephcott wrote:
Who has come out of all this with dignity?
Obviously the UKIP supporters?
[quote][p][bold]Jess Jephcott[/bold] wrote: Who has come out of all this with dignity?[/p][/quote]Obviously the UKIP supporters? oOI Daza IOo
  • Score: 8

4:06pm Mon 26 May 14

Boris says...

plebian_dissenter wrote:
45,439 votes, eh. What's that? Around 33% (if someone has the actual percentage, please let us know) of eligible voters? If so, the way I look at it is that two-thirds of people didn't vote at all. Two thirds of people were not inspired by or interested in any of the candidates or indeed the political process as a whole. And I don't blame them, when the only issue being presented in mainstream media or indeed by flyers through the letterbox is misinformation and outright propaganda regarding immigration. The vote should be declared null and void until at least 51% of the electorate actually vote, then we can say there is some legitimate form of representation.
In any election, all those who fail to vote are deemed to be in favour of whichever party happens to win.
They didn't care about the fact that so much election propaganda was full of lies. They didn't care if pro or anti European parties came out on top. They are happy either way.
Yes, it's contemptible, but it's true.
[quote][p][bold]plebian_dissenter[/bold] wrote: 45,439 votes, eh. What's that? Around 33% (if someone has the actual percentage, please let us know) of eligible voters? If so, the way I look at it is that two-thirds of people didn't vote at all. Two thirds of people were not inspired by or interested in any of the candidates or indeed the political process as a whole. And I don't blame them, when the only issue being presented in mainstream media or indeed by flyers through the letterbox is misinformation and outright propaganda regarding immigration. The vote should be declared null and void until at least 51% of the electorate actually vote, then we can say there is some legitimate form of representation.[/p][/quote]In any election, all those who fail to vote are deemed to be in favour of whichever party happens to win. They didn't care about the fact that so much election propaganda was full of lies. They didn't care if pro or anti European parties came out on top. They are happy either way. Yes, it's contemptible, but it's true. Boris
  • Score: 3

4:21pm Mon 26 May 14

Boris says...

plebian_dissenter wrote:
UKIP is a party of lying, hate-mongering, xenophobes with no policies or a clue how to address any of the issues they purport to champion. Let's be clear, if you voted for UKIP, in spite of how you might attempt to justify it to yourself, you are a bigoted and uneducated buffoon masquerading as a reasoned moderate. Your political views are extremist and you are prejudiced against other people for reasons based on lies that you are too blinkered and narrow-minded to see through, and too indoctrinated by to change. What a disgrace you all are.
PD, I was surprised by the number of people I know (mostly Tories) who confessed to having voted UKIP on Thursday. Most found it hard to justify their actions, and say they will revert to voting Tory for the next General election. The one who explained himself most clearly said he had wanted to give Cameron and the Tories a kicking because of their gay marriage legislation, but he would not waste his vote next year. I think this bears out your thesis.
[quote][p][bold]plebian_dissenter[/bold] wrote: UKIP is a party of lying, hate-mongering, xenophobes with no policies or a clue how to address any of the issues they purport to champion. Let's be clear, if you voted for UKIP, in spite of how you might attempt to justify it to yourself, you are a bigoted and uneducated buffoon masquerading as a reasoned moderate. Your political views are extremist and you are prejudiced against other people for reasons based on lies that you are too blinkered and narrow-minded to see through, and too indoctrinated by to change. What a disgrace you all are.[/p][/quote]PD, I was surprised by the number of people I know (mostly Tories) who confessed to having voted UKIP on Thursday. Most found it hard to justify their actions, and say they will revert to voting Tory for the next General election. The one who explained himself most clearly said he had wanted to give Cameron and the Tories a kicking because of their gay marriage legislation, but he would not waste his vote next year. I think this bears out your thesis. Boris
  • Score: -5

7:00pm Mon 26 May 14

A Very Private Gentleman says...

Cllr Martin Hunt wrote:
Shrubendlad wrote:
No doubt Cllr Hunt will be on here soon. Cllr Hunt is a well respected,hard working Yellow who has the experience and age to be a parliamentary candidate. But when you cant tell a Mill Lane rat run from a Jumbo mistake-there is no hope.
I was going to steer clear of this, but thanks for the first two sentences although I have no wish to be an MP. Can you explain the Mill Lane rat run please - I think I get the Jumbo bit!
Well I suppose it is one way to waste a decent Bank Holiday !
I did say to you all that it could go this way, even though i will concede i got it the wrong way round.
The problem is Mr Farage, he is a convincing speaker and no one will now go near him with a barge pole if they have any brains.
If it was David Cameron in the dual TV debate he would have made mincemeat of him.
Look I am no fan of Farage or UKIP, in the end I did not vote, basically i could not see the wood from the trees.
But Farage unilaterally is a force to be reckoned with, this man individually is very difficult to beat. He has similar vocal and diction skills, coupled with an acute intelligence similar to Adolf: H Aires/Taurus changeover day cusp:
(Coincidently, Farage shares the same Astro Sign of Aires The Ram: So does Bob Russell/Priti Patel/Bernard Jenkin):
Make jest and as much joviality as you wish, but if you take this guy for granted, next year will be worse: Mark My Words: 26/05/2014:
Laugh as much as you like, you wont be laughing next year and nor will I !
AVPG :-(
[quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shrubendlad[/bold] wrote: No doubt Cllr Hunt will be on here soon. Cllr Hunt is a well respected,hard working Yellow who has the experience and age to be a parliamentary candidate. But when you cant tell a Mill Lane rat run from a Jumbo mistake-there is no hope.[/p][/quote]I was going to steer clear of this, but thanks for the first two sentences although I have no wish to be an MP. Can you explain the Mill Lane rat run please - I think I get the Jumbo bit![/p][/quote]Well I suppose it is one way to waste a decent Bank Holiday ! I did say to you all that it could go this way, even though i will concede i got it the wrong way round. The problem is Mr Farage, he is a convincing speaker and no one will now go near him with a barge pole if they have any brains. If it was David Cameron in the dual TV debate he would have made mincemeat of him. Look I am no fan of Farage or UKIP, in the end I did not vote, basically i could not see the wood from the trees. But Farage unilaterally is a force to be reckoned with, this man individually is very difficult to beat. He has similar vocal and diction skills, coupled with an acute intelligence similar to Adolf: H Aires/Taurus changeover day cusp: (Coincidently, Farage shares the same Astro Sign of Aires The Ram: So does Bob Russell/Priti Patel/Bernard Jenkin): Make jest and as much joviality as you wish, but if you take this guy for granted, next year will be worse: Mark My Words: 26/05/2014: Laugh as much as you like, you wont be laughing next year and nor will I ! AVPG :-( A Very Private Gentleman
  • Score: -5

1:07am Tue 27 May 14

linton68 says...

When all is said and done it looks like ukip (predictably) have replaced the lib dems as the fringe party to give your protest vote to. Come the general election, the lib dems will have recovered their previous position as the 3rd political party, and ukip will just fade away, much like the BNP. Clearly the 'Lib Dems' are paying the price for using, and abusing the votes of their supporters in 2010, by jumping into bed with the tories.
When all is said and done it looks like ukip (predictably) have replaced the lib dems as the fringe party to give your protest vote to. Come the general election, the lib dems will have recovered their previous position as the 3rd political party, and ukip will just fade away, much like the BNP. Clearly the 'Lib Dems' are paying the price for using, and abusing the votes of their supporters in 2010, by jumping into bed with the tories. linton68
  • Score: 4

9:59am Tue 27 May 14

jag99 says...

100 years of compulsory education in this country and UKIP is the best we could do... A sad day indeed.
100 years of compulsory education in this country and UKIP is the best we could do... A sad day indeed. jag99
  • Score: -2

11:00am Tue 27 May 14

Jess Jephcott says...

What a load of sour grapes. The people have spoken and the bigots have no choice but to accept that. It is my hope that the lesson UKIP has just delivered, as well as other parties in Europe, will produce radical change in Tory and Labour thinking. The EEC, as it is now, is bad for our health and needs a shake-up. But I think Boris has it in a nutshell. There were a lot of people who usually vote Tory that voted UKIP as a protest - this time only? We shall see.
What a load of sour grapes. The people have spoken and the bigots have no choice but to accept that. It is my hope that the lesson UKIP has just delivered, as well as other parties in Europe, will produce radical change in Tory and Labour thinking. The EEC, as it is now, is bad for our health and needs a shake-up. But I think Boris has it in a nutshell. There were a lot of people who usually vote Tory that voted UKIP as a protest - this time only? We shall see. Jess Jephcott
  • Score: 0

12:12pm Tue 27 May 14

jag99 says...

Jess Jephcott wrote:
What a load of sour grapes. The people have spoken and the bigots have no choice but to accept that. It is my hope that the lesson UKIP has just delivered, as well as other parties in Europe, will produce radical change in Tory and Labour thinking. The EEC, as it is now, is bad for our health and needs a shake-up. But I think Boris has it in a nutshell. There were a lot of people who usually vote Tory that voted UKIP as a protest - this time only? We shall see.
Which people have spoken exactly - 35% turnout and of that less than a third voted for UKIP (about 10% of the eligible voters in total) - hardly a resounding endorsement ...
[quote][p][bold]Jess Jephcott[/bold] wrote: What a load of sour grapes. The people have spoken and the bigots have no choice but to accept that. It is my hope that the lesson UKIP has just delivered, as well as other parties in Europe, will produce radical change in Tory and Labour thinking. The EEC, as it is now, is bad for our health and needs a shake-up. But I think Boris has it in a nutshell. There were a lot of people who usually vote Tory that voted UKIP as a protest - this time only? We shall see.[/p][/quote]Which people have spoken exactly - 35% turnout and of that less than a third voted for UKIP (about 10% of the eligible voters in total) - hardly a resounding endorsement ... jag99
  • Score: -6

3:46pm Tue 27 May 14

romantic says...

jag99 wrote:
Jess Jephcott wrote:
What a load of sour grapes. The people have spoken and the bigots have no choice but to accept that. It is my hope that the lesson UKIP has just delivered, as well as other parties in Europe, will produce radical change in Tory and Labour thinking. The EEC, as it is now, is bad for our health and needs a shake-up. But I think Boris has it in a nutshell. There were a lot of people who usually vote Tory that voted UKIP as a protest - this time only? We shall see.
Which people have spoken exactly - 35% turnout and of that less than a third voted for UKIP (about 10% of the eligible voters in total) - hardly a resounding endorsement ...
Something similar could be said for almost every election ever held. 1955 was the highest % for a post-war election, when Eden won 49.7% of a turnout of 76.8% - that is 38% of all voters. Cameron got 23.5% of all voters. When Blair won in 1997, Labour got 30.8% of all voters. It's the way democracy is. For whatever reason, 65% of voters did not come out to vote.

In the absence of a better system, it is the one we have. I don't necessarily believe that voting is the only way there is to influence events and opinion, but it is the point at which people are universally asked how they feel.

The question of WHY so few people vote is a different one, as is the question of whether voting should be compulsory. Personally, I feel no, it shouldn't, but it saddens me that so many are seemingly apathetic as to who is in charge.

In the absence of a better system, UKIP has won the vote fair and square. Whether we think of that as a good or bad thing, we have to accept it as the reality and pray that they don't do anything really stupid. The other parties need to work out a response. It is lazy thinking to just dismiss all UKIP voters as closet racists or xenophobic Little Englanders. The people (at least, those who can be bothered to vote) have made their decision. We have to face the reality: if people were that disturbed by UKIP, they would have voted against them.
[quote][p][bold]jag99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jess Jephcott[/bold] wrote: What a load of sour grapes. The people have spoken and the bigots have no choice but to accept that. It is my hope that the lesson UKIP has just delivered, as well as other parties in Europe, will produce radical change in Tory and Labour thinking. The EEC, as it is now, is bad for our health and needs a shake-up. But I think Boris has it in a nutshell. There were a lot of people who usually vote Tory that voted UKIP as a protest - this time only? We shall see.[/p][/quote]Which people have spoken exactly - 35% turnout and of that less than a third voted for UKIP (about 10% of the eligible voters in total) - hardly a resounding endorsement ...[/p][/quote]Something similar could be said for almost every election ever held. 1955 was the highest % for a post-war election, when Eden won 49.7% of a turnout of 76.8% - that is 38% of all voters. Cameron got 23.5% of all voters. When Blair won in 1997, Labour got 30.8% of all voters. It's the way democracy is. For whatever reason, 65% of voters did not come out to vote. In the absence of a better system, it is the one we have. I don't necessarily believe that voting is the only way there is to influence events and opinion, but it is the point at which people are universally asked how they feel. The question of WHY so few people vote is a different one, as is the question of whether voting should be compulsory. Personally, I feel no, it shouldn't, but it saddens me that so many are seemingly apathetic as to who is in charge. In the absence of a better system, UKIP has won the vote fair and square. Whether we think of that as a good or bad thing, we have to accept it as the reality and pray that they don't do anything really stupid. The other parties need to work out a response. It is lazy thinking to just dismiss all UKIP voters as closet racists or xenophobic Little Englanders. The people (at least, those who can be bothered to vote) have made their decision. We have to face the reality: if people were that disturbed by UKIP, they would have voted against them. romantic
  • Score: 2

5:37pm Tue 27 May 14

Carlosfandangles says...

I have voted in all local and general elections since I turned 18 - if you don't vote, you cant complain or play down the intentions of those that did. The classic put up or shut up.
I have voted in all local and general elections since I turned 18 - if you don't vote, you cant complain or play down the intentions of those that did. The classic put up or shut up. Carlosfandangles
  • Score: 5

7:12pm Tue 27 May 14

Shrubendlad says...

1.Change the voting day to SUNDAY in line with Europe.
2.Disenfranchise those who don't vote a UK vote.
3.Impose a punitive charge to get their "rights" back if they change their minds.
Its a free country but freedom has a price.
1.Change the voting day to SUNDAY in line with Europe. 2.Disenfranchise those who don't vote a UK vote. 3.Impose a punitive charge to get their "rights" back if they change their minds. Its a free country but freedom has a price. Shrubendlad
  • Score: -2

11:39pm Tue 27 May 14

co2 says...

plebian_dissenter wrote:
UKIP is a party of lying, hate-mongering, xenophobes with no policies or a clue how to address any of the issues they purport to champion. Let's be clear, if you voted for UKIP, in spite of how you might attempt to justify it to yourself, you are a bigoted and uneducated buffoon masquerading as a reasoned moderate. Your political views are extremist and you are prejudiced against other people for reasons based on lies that you are too blinkered and narrow-minded to see through, and too indoctrinated by to change. What a disgrace you all are.
surely its the lib dems you are describing ?
[quote][p][bold]plebian_dissenter[/bold] wrote: UKIP is a party of lying, hate-mongering, xenophobes with no policies or a clue how to address any of the issues they purport to champion. Let's be clear, if you voted for UKIP, in spite of how you might attempt to justify it to yourself, you are a bigoted and uneducated buffoon masquerading as a reasoned moderate. Your political views are extremist and you are prejudiced against other people for reasons based on lies that you are too blinkered and narrow-minded to see through, and too indoctrinated by to change. What a disgrace you all are.[/p][/quote]surely its the lib dems you are describing ? co2
  • Score: 3

2:29am Wed 28 May 14

Boris says...

Carlosfandangles wrote:
I have voted in all local and general elections since I turned 18 - if you don't vote, you cant complain or play down the intentions of those that did. The classic put up or shut up.
Well said, Carlos. If you voted, but your candidate lost, then at least you can say you did your bit to achieve your desired result. Those who don't vote are all stating that they are happy with whoever wins, which is ridiculous.
[quote][p][bold]Carlosfandangles[/bold] wrote: I have voted in all local and general elections since I turned 18 - if you don't vote, you cant complain or play down the intentions of those that did. The classic put up or shut up.[/p][/quote]Well said, Carlos. If you voted, but your candidate lost, then at least you can say you did your bit to achieve your desired result. Those who don't vote are all stating that they are happy with whoever wins, which is ridiculous. Boris
  • Score: 2

7:01am Wed 28 May 14

Ethnic-Minority says...

Ethnic-Minority wrote:
What a joke and an utter fiasco, where it counted you voted for your own, where it did not, you voted for UKIP as a cowardly protest vote to get your own point of view across. Probably one of the most racist borough's in the Country you vote UKIP in a Euro Election. I worked for the then Essex Racial Equality Council in south Essex back in the early 90's. They had three categories of Ethnic Minority, CAT 1 was Visibly Ethnic by colour and creed and by name. CAT 2 Partially Visible by appearance and name. CAT 3. Visible by name only or not by name, or appearance and name. In their format I am a Cat 2 E.M. I have never come across such a bunch of closet, subconscious, esoteric, self protectionist racists, in all my life such as people in this community, how many in the categories above are working in the council or Essex police as a pro rata proportion of the Colchester populous? How many elected councillors and representatives do you have in the borough or county in any of the above categories? Years ago you refused to twin with an Italian Town because you said it was over a horse race. The borough then picked the capitol of an independent principality state in Italy to twin with, as oppose to another straight forward town located in Italy. You lot are all in denial, or that is what you say in front of us to our face, behind our backs is a different story and this current vote rests my case in point on the issue. The member and canvasser of the white supremacists, who owns a shop in lion walk we know about you? A number of members of the BNP and the EDL, that work in the public sector in various official levy and adjudicatory bodies, we know about you lot as well. This vote has stereo-typified and outed the views around here, thank you very much indeed on behalf of all blacks and foreigners living in the town.
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-27599401

ONE THIRD IN MY BOOK THAT IS 20 Million People not a lot then?
[quote][p][bold]Ethnic-Minority[/bold] wrote: What a joke and an utter fiasco, where it counted you voted for your own, where it did not, you voted for UKIP as a cowardly protest vote to get your own point of view across. Probably one of the most racist borough's in the Country you vote UKIP in a Euro Election. I worked for the then Essex Racial Equality Council in south Essex back in the early 90's. They had three categories of Ethnic Minority, CAT 1 was Visibly Ethnic by colour and creed and by name. CAT 2 Partially Visible by appearance and name. CAT 3. Visible by name only or not by name, or appearance and name. In their format I am a Cat 2 E.M. I have never come across such a bunch of closet, subconscious, esoteric, self protectionist racists, in all my life such as people in this community, how many in the categories above are working in the council or Essex police as a pro rata proportion of the Colchester populous? How many elected councillors and representatives do you have in the borough or county in any of the above categories? Years ago you refused to twin with an Italian Town because you said it was over a horse race. The borough then picked the capitol of an independent principality state in Italy to twin with, as oppose to another straight forward town located in Italy. You lot are all in denial, or that is what you say in front of us to our face, behind our backs is a different story and this current vote rests my case in point on the issue. The member and canvasser of the white supremacists, who owns a shop in lion walk we know about you? A number of members of the BNP and the EDL, that work in the public sector in various official levy and adjudicatory bodies, we know about you lot as well. This vote has stereo-typified and outed the views around here, thank you very much indeed on behalf of all blacks and foreigners living in the town.[/p][/quote]http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-27599401 ONE THIRD IN MY BOOK THAT IS 20 Million People not a lot then? Ethnic-Minority
  • Score: -2

7:02am Wed 28 May 14

Ethnic-Minority says...

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-27599401

one third in my book thats about 20 million?
http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-27599401 one third in my book thats about 20 million? Ethnic-Minority
  • Score: -3

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