Essex County Council plans to cut lollipop ladies

Gazette: Save Tom: Tom Dodd at St Peter's Catholic Primary School in Billericay Save Tom: Tom Dodd at St Peter's Catholic Primary School in Billericay

THE Echo and Colchester Gazette have launched a joint campaign to save lollipop men and women. 

Lollipop men and women could be removed from outside Essex schools by the summer as part of money-saving plans.

Essex County Council has said its crossing patrol staff at 55 schools could be scrapped.

County Hall has started talking to schools about whether they want to lose the patrol service. The cash-strapped council could ask schools to fund the service themselves.

It insists no decisions have been made yet, but, depending on the outcome of consultations, patrols could be gone by this summer.

Rodney Bass, the councillor responsible for transport, said: “Due to the current economic climate and the pressure on local authority budgets, we are reviewing the delivery of many aspects of public service.”

Andy Howe, the executive headteacher at Rochford Primary School, and Holt Farm Junior School, both in Ashingdon Road, slammed County Hall. He said: “This is a cost cutting exercise which will put lives at risk. The County's view is that the schools could pay from their own budgets if they think it is important enough. .

“At Rochford Primary School and Holt Farm Junior School, on the busiest B road in the county so I would consider this to be an incredibly dangerou and unfair change of road safety practice.

“If we’re paying asked to pay about £5,800 to fund patrols, then that is unfair. Our limited resources need to be diverted into improving standards, and County Hall is quick to point out when we don’t do that.”

Parents at St Peters Catholic School in Billericay have launched a campaign to save their lollipop man Tom after ECC announced budget cuts.

Mum Khushreen Patankar, 40, who lives near one of the crossings under threat in St John’s Road, Colchester, said: “It is despicable. If the patrol goes someone will get knocked over and killed.”

At threat is a crossing at Bromley Road, Colchester, which is near Hazelmere Infant and Junior schools and is used by pupils from several other nearby schools.

Infant headteacher Steven Turnbull said he had already set his budget for the next school year, which he insisted should be spent on education, not road safety.

He said: “I am shocked at the timing.

“It does not feel like a consultation, it feels like something has been decided and we are expected to find the money.

“I am inclined to think our responsibility should not be maintaining the highways.

“Our budget is quite specifically for raising standards for children and to keep them safe in our school environment, where will it end?”

Parents can have their say by visiting www.essexinsight.org.uk

Sign a petition against the plans here 

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5:39pm Mon 17 Mar 14

carnmountyouknowitmakessense says...

Why is it acceptable, that in the 21st century, people think that having a pensioner in all weathers holding a fluorescent pole, can be justified ?
Whilst it worked well in the 1930's, in this day and age Pelican crossings, have to be the way forward, with suitable road safety training.
These days schools are mobbed by vehicles picking up kids, with many others parked nearby, now if mum doesn't know how to cross the road, then we have a problem.Time to move on into the 21st century, and dispense with such dated dated methods of crossing the roads.
Why is it acceptable, that in the 21st century, people think that having a pensioner in all weathers holding a fluorescent pole, can be justified ? Whilst it worked well in the 1930's, in this day and age Pelican crossings, have to be the way forward, with suitable road safety training. These days schools are mobbed by vehicles picking up kids, with many others parked nearby, now if mum doesn't know how to cross the road, then we have a problem.Time to move on into the 21st century, and dispense with such dated dated methods of crossing the roads. carnmountyouknowitmakessense
  • Score: -13

6:51pm Mon 17 Mar 14

runwellian says...

Are these the folk that wait till the lights go green then wander into the road with their lollipop?

If yes, Please get rid of them.

It is time children were taught how to cross the road and show some respect for traffic.
Are these the folk that wait till the lights go green then wander into the road with their lollipop? If yes, Please get rid of them. It is time children were taught how to cross the road and show some respect for traffic. runwellian
  • Score: -9

8:24pm Mon 17 Mar 14

seikothrill says...

If the parents took the option to walk to school instead of driving that would assist

I walk my children to school, yet my neighbour drives and then complains the traffic is bad at North Station and that we 9 times out of 10 arrive first despite normally leaving within minutes of each other
If the parents took the option to walk to school instead of driving that would assist I walk my children to school, yet my neighbour drives and then complains the traffic is bad at North Station and that we 9 times out of 10 arrive first despite normally leaving within minutes of each other seikothrill
  • Score: 13

10:09pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Boris says...

runwellian wrote:
Are these the folk that wait till the lights go green then wander into the road with their lollipop?

If yes, Please get rid of them.

It is time children were taught how to cross the road and show some respect for traffic.
It is time that motorists were taught to drive according to the conditions and show some respect for children.
If schools are to pay for their own lollipop persons, they must be allowed to charge parents who drive children to school £1 a day, or £2 a day when they drive 4x4s. This should cover the expense.
[quote][p][bold]runwellian[/bold] wrote: Are these the folk that wait till the lights go green then wander into the road with their lollipop? If yes, Please get rid of them. It is time children were taught how to cross the road and show some respect for traffic.[/p][/quote]It is time that motorists were taught to drive according to the conditions and show some respect for children. If schools are to pay for their own lollipop persons, they must be allowed to charge parents who drive children to school £1 a day, or £2 a day when they drive 4x4s. This should cover the expense. Boris
  • Score: 7

10:48pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Boris says...

The link to the survey as provided in the article is incomplete. Here is the correct version::
http://www.essexinsi
ght.org.uk/ViewPage1
.aspx?C=Resource&Res
ourceID=934
Note that it only allows you to comment about one school.
The link to the survey as provided in the article is incomplete. Here is the correct version:: http://www.essexinsi ght.org.uk/ViewPage1 .aspx?C=Resource&Res ourceID=934 Note that it only allows you to comment about one school. Boris
  • Score: -2

7:38am Tue 18 Mar 14

Cllr Dave Harris says...

Petition on petitionbuzz web site

On line petition to oppose any withdrawal of the school crossings
Petition on petitionbuzz web site On line petition to oppose any withdrawal of the school crossings Cllr Dave Harris
  • Score: -1

8:19am Tue 18 Mar 14

shallowJoker says...

Surely childrens safety has to be paramount, how could anyone even think of getting rid of the valuable under paid good people. And as for saying they are out of date is nonsense it is often the simplest old ides that work the best.
Surely childrens safety has to be paramount, how could anyone even think of getting rid of the valuable under paid good people. And as for saying they are out of date is nonsense it is often the simplest old ides that work the best. shallowJoker
  • Score: 9

9:19am Tue 18 Mar 14

Catchedicam says...

carnmountyouknowitma
kessense
wrote:
Why is it acceptable, that in the 21st century, people think that having a pensioner in all weathers holding a fluorescent pole, can be justified ?
Whilst it worked well in the 1930's, in this day and age Pelican crossings, have to be the way forward, with suitable road safety training.
These days schools are mobbed by vehicles picking up kids, with many others parked nearby, now if mum doesn't know how to cross the road, then we have a problem.Time to move on into the 21st century, and dispense with such dated dated methods of crossing the roads.
And what happens when the lights fail? Because we all know that ECC spend money on maintaining highways don't we?
[quote][p][bold]carnmountyouknowitma kessense[/bold] wrote: Why is it acceptable, that in the 21st century, people think that having a pensioner in all weathers holding a fluorescent pole, can be justified ? Whilst it worked well in the 1930's, in this day and age Pelican crossings, have to be the way forward, with suitable road safety training. These days schools are mobbed by vehicles picking up kids, with many others parked nearby, now if mum doesn't know how to cross the road, then we have a problem.Time to move on into the 21st century, and dispense with such dated dated methods of crossing the roads.[/p][/quote]And what happens when the lights fail? Because we all know that ECC spend money on maintaining highways don't we? Catchedicam
  • Score: -1

10:53am Tue 18 Mar 14

Jack222 says...

Why cant parents help their own children cross roads as they do the rest of the time? That would save our money on pointless lollipop people - less government interference is needed, lass council tax is wasted and more parental responsibility!

It's win -win if lollipop people were abolished.
Why cant parents help their own children cross roads as they do the rest of the time? That would save our money on pointless lollipop people - less government interference is needed, lass council tax is wasted and more parental responsibility! It's win -win if lollipop people were abolished. Jack222
  • Score: -4

11:46am Tue 18 Mar 14

SAndrewss says...

Just stay on the pavement and cross at dedicated crossings. It's unusual in this day and age for young children to walk to school by themselves, so surely the parents walking them can cross the road safely?
There may be specific areas where a lollipop man/woman is desirable, but I suspect there are many more instances where they are simply unnecessary and unjustified.

Not that I really care either way, must be a slow news day.
Just stay on the pavement and cross at dedicated crossings. It's unusual in this day and age for young children to walk to school by themselves, so surely the parents walking them can cross the road safely? There may be specific areas where a lollipop man/woman is desirable, but I suspect there are many more instances where they are simply unnecessary and unjustified. Not that I really care either way, must be a slow news day. SAndrewss
  • Score: 2

5:06pm Tue 18 Mar 14

romantic says...

carnmountyouknowitma
kessense
wrote:
Why is it acceptable, that in the 21st century, people think that having a pensioner in all weathers holding a fluorescent pole, can be justified ? Whilst it worked well in the 1930's, in this day and age Pelican crossings, have to be the way forward, with suitable road safety training. These days schools are mobbed by vehicles picking up kids, with many others parked nearby, now if mum doesn't know how to cross the road, then we have a problem.Time to move on into the 21st century, and dispense with such dated dated methods of crossing the roads.
If motorists actually drove with caution when kids are around, there might be less need for lollipop people. Agree fully that there are way too many parents who drive to school when they could probably walk it faster.

My kids walked to school on their own from the age of around 8, as soon as we were confident they could cross the road safely. It gives them more independence, bit of exercise each day.

There are places where lollipop crossings are still needed, and that is mainly because motorists fail to look around and take into account that there are kids around.
[quote][p][bold]carnmountyouknowitma kessense[/bold] wrote: Why is it acceptable, that in the 21st century, people think that having a pensioner in all weathers holding a fluorescent pole, can be justified ? Whilst it worked well in the 1930's, in this day and age Pelican crossings, have to be the way forward, with suitable road safety training. These days schools are mobbed by vehicles picking up kids, with many others parked nearby, now if mum doesn't know how to cross the road, then we have a problem.Time to move on into the 21st century, and dispense with such dated dated methods of crossing the roads.[/p][/quote]If motorists actually drove with caution when kids are around, there might be less need for lollipop people. Agree fully that there are way too many parents who drive to school when they could probably walk it faster. My kids walked to school on their own from the age of around 8, as soon as we were confident they could cross the road safely. It gives them more independence, bit of exercise each day. There are places where lollipop crossings are still needed, and that is mainly because motorists fail to look around and take into account that there are kids around. romantic
  • Score: 2

7:25pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Colonel Kurtz says...

The County's management salaries are obscene, they waste massive amounts of heath and safety for disabled gypsy lesbian workshops and translating leaflets for recycling in to Swahili. Yet they throw away our traditions they we all love and cherish and help children cross the ever increasing busy roads of this overcrowed town of ours. Absolute DONKEYS the lot of them. Its time like these that makes me what to immigrate. I despair!
The County's management salaries are obscene, they waste massive amounts of heath and safety for disabled gypsy lesbian workshops and translating leaflets for recycling in to Swahili. Yet they throw away our traditions they we all love and cherish and help children cross the ever increasing busy roads of this overcrowed town of ours. Absolute DONKEYS the lot of them. Its time like these that makes me what to immigrate. I despair! Colonel Kurtz
  • Score: 2

7:41pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Boris says...

Colonel Kurtz wrote:
The County's management salaries are obscene, they waste massive amounts of heath and safety for disabled gypsy lesbian workshops and translating leaflets for recycling in to Swahili. Yet they throw away our traditions they we all love and cherish and help children cross the ever increasing busy roads of this overcrowed town of ours. Absolute DONKEYS the lot of them. Its time like these that makes me what to immigrate. I despair!
Haven't you immigrated already? Which country did you come from?
[quote][p][bold]Colonel Kurtz[/bold] wrote: The County's management salaries are obscene, they waste massive amounts of heath and safety for disabled gypsy lesbian workshops and translating leaflets for recycling in to Swahili. Yet they throw away our traditions they we all love and cherish and help children cross the ever increasing busy roads of this overcrowed town of ours. Absolute DONKEYS the lot of them. Its time like these that makes me what to immigrate. I despair![/p][/quote]Haven't you immigrated already? Which country did you come from? Boris
  • Score: -2

7:59pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Boris says...

Cllr Dave Harris wrote:
Petition on petitionbuzz web site

On line petition to oppose any withdrawal of the school crossings
There are in fact two petitions on petitionbuzz, one for Mersea Road with 2 signatures, the other for Shrub End with 14 signatures. These appear to duplicate the effect of ECC's own consultation, and the puny numbers will not impress anyone. It might have been better to have a single petition covering all schools in Colchester.
[quote][p][bold]Cllr Dave Harris[/bold] wrote: Petition on petitionbuzz web site On line petition to oppose any withdrawal of the school crossings[/p][/quote]There are in fact two petitions on petitionbuzz, one for Mersea Road with 2 signatures, the other for Shrub End with 14 signatures. These appear to duplicate the effect of ECC's own consultation, and the puny numbers will not impress anyone. It might have been better to have a single petition covering all schools in Colchester. Boris
  • Score: 0

9:16pm Tue 18 Mar 14

stevedawson says...

Irrespective of wether the crossing people are kept or not the speed limit on roads adjacent to schools should be brought down to 20mph.
Irrespective of wether the crossing people are kept or not the speed limit on roads adjacent to schools should be brought down to 20mph. stevedawson
  • Score: 0

8:48am Wed 19 Mar 14

Slamdoor312 says...

Jack222,

Parents take responsible for thier kids ?. Very funny !.

Don't you know that's everybody's else's job.
Jack222, Parents take responsible for thier kids ?. Very funny !. Don't you know that's everybody's else's job. Slamdoor312
  • Score: 1

10:29am Wed 19 Mar 14

**Troll** says...

Boris wrote:
Colonel Kurtz wrote:
The County's management salaries are obscene, they waste massive amounts of heath and safety for disabled gypsy lesbian workshops and translating leaflets for recycling in to Swahili. Yet they throw away our traditions they we all love and cherish and help children cross the ever increasing busy roads of this overcrowed town of ours. Absolute DONKEYS the lot of them. Its time like these that makes me what to immigrate. I despair!
Haven't you immigrated already? Which country did you come from?
Im a Lesbian Gypsy
So what?
You two old ****
I Fink the word is Racist
Rock on Tommy
Stuff The Lolly Pop Ladies
Save the money
Lets have another seafood feast instead.
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Colonel Kurtz[/bold] wrote: The County's management salaries are obscene, they waste massive amounts of heath and safety for disabled gypsy lesbian workshops and translating leaflets for recycling in to Swahili. Yet they throw away our traditions they we all love and cherish and help children cross the ever increasing busy roads of this overcrowed town of ours. Absolute DONKEYS the lot of them. Its time like these that makes me what to immigrate. I despair![/p][/quote]Haven't you immigrated already? Which country did you come from?[/p][/quote]Im a Lesbian Gypsy So what? You two old **** I Fink the word is Racist Rock on Tommy Stuff The Lolly Pop Ladies Save the money Lets have another seafood feast instead. **Troll**
  • Score: 3

7:03am Sun 23 Mar 14

Nevtyler says...

carnmountyouknowitma
kessense
wrote:
Why is it acceptable, that in the 21st century, people think that having a pensioner in all weathers holding a fluorescent pole, can be justified ?
Whilst it worked well in the 1930's, in this day and age Pelican crossings, have to be the way forward, with suitable road safety training.
These days schools are mobbed by vehicles picking up kids, with many others parked nearby, now if mum doesn't know how to cross the road, then we have a problem.Time to move on into the 21st century, and dispense with such dated dated methods of crossing the roads.
Well said!
[quote][p][bold]carnmountyouknowitma kessense[/bold] wrote: Why is it acceptable, that in the 21st century, people think that having a pensioner in all weathers holding a fluorescent pole, can be justified ? Whilst it worked well in the 1930's, in this day and age Pelican crossings, have to be the way forward, with suitable road safety training. These days schools are mobbed by vehicles picking up kids, with many others parked nearby, now if mum doesn't know how to cross the road, then we have a problem.Time to move on into the 21st century, and dispense with such dated dated methods of crossing the roads.[/p][/quote]Well said! Nevtyler
  • Score: -1

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