£70m shopping mall 'could save town centre'

Gazette: Mark Larner says retailer support plans to build Vineyard Gate shopping centre Mark Larner says retailer support plans to build Vineyard Gate shopping centre

RETAILERS say a £70million shopping mall could save Colchester town centre.

Proposals to build Vineyard Gate shopping centre have been announced.

An large “anchor” store has been selected and a number of other shops and restaurants have already signed up.

The roofed shopping centre will be funded by £5million from Colchester Council, with the rest put up by private investors.

Mark Larner, who runs Colchester Pet Stores, in Eld Lane, near to the proposed centre, said: “This is a brilliant opportunity for the town.

“It is about time the council started thinking about the town centre instead of thinking about out of town shopping centres."

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10:44am Mon 10 Mar 14

JCoe1980 says...

Bob - PLEASE approve this! Make it your last fanfare before the election!
Bob - PLEASE approve this! Make it your last fanfare before the election! JCoe1980
  • Score: -2

10:46am Mon 10 Mar 14

DailyGazette says...

We don't use what we've got..... more empty shops...Claton Shopping Village...
We don't use what we've got..... more empty shops...Claton Shopping Village... DailyGazette
  • Score: 4

10:54am Mon 10 Mar 14

AngryManNewTown says...

JCoe1980 wrote:
Bob - PLEASE approve this! Make it your last fanfare before the election!
What has it got to do with Bob, he will not have a say in it!! It's down to CBC!!
[quote][p][bold]JCoe1980[/bold] wrote: Bob - PLEASE approve this! Make it your last fanfare before the election![/p][/quote]What has it got to do with Bob, he will not have a say in it!! It's down to CBC!! AngryManNewTown
  • Score: 5

11:04am Mon 10 Mar 14

Jack222 says...

As we are progressively shopping more on the internet why do we need more shops?
As we are progressively shopping more on the internet why do we need more shops? Jack222
  • Score: 3

11:26am Mon 10 Mar 14

Say It As It Is OK? says...

It's odd that this town centre trader thinks CBC are only interested in out of town shopping centres whereas the owners of the Tollgate Centre says exactly the opposite. Personally out of town centres, with good free parking, is the way to go at least until CBC stop penalising the motorists with access restrictions and expensive parking charges.
It's odd that this town centre trader thinks CBC are only interested in out of town shopping centres whereas the owners of the Tollgate Centre says exactly the opposite. Personally out of town centres, with good free parking, is the way to go at least until CBC stop penalising the motorists with access restrictions and expensive parking charges. Say It As It Is OK?
  • Score: 12

12:13pm Mon 10 Mar 14

SAndrewss says...

Say It As It Is OK? wrote:
It's odd that this town centre trader thinks CBC are only interested in out of town shopping centres whereas the owners of the Tollgate Centre says exactly the opposite. Personally out of town centres, with good free parking, is the way to go at least until CBC stop penalising the motorists with access restrictions and expensive parking charges.
Unfortunately, access restrictions and parking charges are an attempt to ease traffic congestion, without them everybody would be complaining more than they already are about the traffic.

Out of town centres give people the choice, certainly outlets such as Next and Argos who have shops both in the town and at Tollgate see the benefit of both.

I wonder how the town will change after the 1600 houses at Mile End, 1500 at severalls, 2000 at Stanway and near Five Ways and the 3-4000 houses at 'The Fringe' near the university are built.
[quote][p][bold]Say It As It Is OK?[/bold] wrote: It's odd that this town centre trader thinks CBC are only interested in out of town shopping centres whereas the owners of the Tollgate Centre says exactly the opposite. Personally out of town centres, with good free parking, is the way to go at least until CBC stop penalising the motorists with access restrictions and expensive parking charges.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately, access restrictions and parking charges are an attempt to ease traffic congestion, without them everybody would be complaining more than they already are about the traffic. Out of town centres give people the choice, certainly outlets such as Next and Argos who have shops both in the town and at Tollgate see the benefit of both. I wonder how the town will change after the 1600 houses at Mile End, 1500 at severalls, 2000 at Stanway and near Five Ways and the 3-4000 houses at 'The Fringe' near the university are built. SAndrewss
  • Score: 4

2:00pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Colonel Kurtz says...

By the time CBC grants final approval we shall be all dead long ago
By the time CBC grants final approval we shall be all dead long ago Colonel Kurtz
  • Score: 1

2:52pm Mon 10 Mar 14

super waluigi says...

Even though there is countless shops that are empty, the town needs a decent overhaul. The red lion walk shopping parade cost a considerable amount of money with barely and notable difference, hotdog stools and benches aside.

If this new centre can bring in bigger brands, then perhaps older units else where in the centre of town can be leased for less to independent retailers.

A good and positive move in my opinion.
Even though there is countless shops that are empty, the town needs a decent overhaul. The red lion walk shopping parade cost a considerable amount of money with barely and notable difference, hotdog stools and benches aside. If this new centre can bring in bigger brands, then perhaps older units else where in the centre of town can be leased for less to independent retailers. A good and positive move in my opinion. super waluigi
  • Score: 4

2:56pm Mon 10 Mar 14

catflap1 says...

the town will still be a **** hole.... cant polish a turd
the town will still be a **** hole.... cant polish a turd catflap1
  • Score: -6

8:58pm Mon 10 Mar 14

angryman!!! says...

Is that what you tell yourself when you look in the mirror cat crap.
Super has hit the nail on the head, private money pumped into town, a few larger retailers and a good chance that it will bring down the leases on smaller shops in town.
Is that what you tell yourself when you look in the mirror cat crap. Super has hit the nail on the head, private money pumped into town, a few larger retailers and a good chance that it will bring down the leases on smaller shops in town. angryman!!!
  • Score: 3

1:42am Tue 11 Mar 14

Dark_Wolf says...

And where are the extra traffic going to go? Are they gonna improve the alternative transport to get to town as roads are severely congested as it is.
And where are the extra traffic going to go? Are they gonna improve the alternative transport to get to town as roads are severely congested as it is. Dark_Wolf
  • Score: 1

9:18am Tue 11 Mar 14

suzywright says...

angryman!!! wrote:
Is that what you tell yourself when you look in the mirror cat crap.
Super has hit the nail on the head, private money pumped into town, a few larger retailers and a good chance that it will bring down the leases on smaller shops in town.
Highly unlikely that a large retailer is going to bring the cost of leases down. Typically it is the opposite, a large retailer knows that it can command a good deal, which usually leads to the developer reducing its rent because he knows the large anchor tenant will attract other tenants who require the presence of the anchor. Therefore the smaller tenants rents are generally higher 'per square foot' than the anchor tenant.
I am still sceptical about this scheme as I don't think Colchester has the retail capacity for it, the W&G redevelopment and St Botolphs redevelopment. Proof is the amount of vacant retail units already in the town of all sizes.
[quote][p][bold]angryman!!![/bold] wrote: Is that what you tell yourself when you look in the mirror cat crap. Super has hit the nail on the head, private money pumped into town, a few larger retailers and a good chance that it will bring down the leases on smaller shops in town.[/p][/quote]Highly unlikely that a large retailer is going to bring the cost of leases down. Typically it is the opposite, a large retailer knows that it can command a good deal, which usually leads to the developer reducing its rent because he knows the large anchor tenant will attract other tenants who require the presence of the anchor. Therefore the smaller tenants rents are generally higher 'per square foot' than the anchor tenant. I am still sceptical about this scheme as I don't think Colchester has the retail capacity for it, the W&G redevelopment and St Botolphs redevelopment. Proof is the amount of vacant retail units already in the town of all sizes. suzywright
  • Score: 2

11:42am Tue 11 Mar 14

Jess Jephcott says...

This is an exciting and positive plan. I just hope it goes ahead. This is not only about shopping. This is a whole new area for leisure as well and makes an already scruffy area look attractive to visitors.
This is an exciting and positive plan. I just hope it goes ahead. This is not only about shopping. This is a whole new area for leisure as well and makes an already scruffy area look attractive to visitors. Jess Jephcott
  • Score: 3

12:54pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Dorian says...

I await the plans and designs with interest. Perhaps it might actually happen this time- third time lucky!
I await the plans and designs with interest. Perhaps it might actually happen this time- third time lucky! Dorian
  • Score: 0

1:26pm Tue 11 Mar 14

stevedawson says...

With the big turn round in the economy, and people with more money to spend we can now look forward to the building of the design for the st botolphs area of the town that has been on the drawing board for several years now.we could also expand our new bus stop into the planed bus station we expected before the financial scam was foisted on the country by the condems.
With the big turn round in the economy, and people with more money to spend we can now look forward to the building of the design for the st botolphs area of the town that has been on the drawing board for several years now.we could also expand our new bus stop into the planed bus station we expected before the financial scam was foisted on the country by the condems. stevedawson
  • Score: 2

6:16pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Simon Taylor says...

In the long run, more investment in the town centre will be good for Colchester, but the experience of the original plan was that it led agents to recommend speculative rental increases, especially in Eld Lane, and some shops were forced to close. Hopefully, with a smaller development proposed and the benefit of this experience, there will be no repetition...
In the long run, more investment in the town centre will be good for Colchester, but the experience of the original plan was that it led agents to recommend speculative rental increases, especially in Eld Lane, and some shops were forced to close. Hopefully, with a smaller development proposed and the benefit of this experience, there will be no repetition... Simon Taylor
  • Score: 0

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