Swingers club plans get council go-ahead

Gazette: Applicants Rebecca Freeman and Jason Woolf. Applicants Rebecca Freeman and Jason Woolf.

COLCHESTER’S first swingers club has been given the green light.

The private members club, in London Road, Lexden, was approved by Colchester Council’s planning committee last night.

Applicants Jason Woolf and Rebecca Freeman have temporary permission for one year to prove the business will not disturb residents.

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9:08am Fri 28 Feb 14

The Stinker Returns says...

WHHHAAAAAAAT THE .......
WHHHAAAAAAAT THE ....... The Stinker Returns
  • Score: 29

9:19am Fri 28 Feb 14

SOMETHING2SAY says...

66A !! Not " 69 EH ??"
66A !! Not " 69 EH ??" SOMETHING2SAY
  • Score: 6

9:20am Fri 28 Feb 14

Ritchie_Hicks says...

The Stinker Returns wrote:
WHHHAAAAAAAT THE .......
Not my "cup of tea", but consenting adults behind closed doors? Don't see the problem personally.
[quote][p][bold]The Stinker Returns[/bold] wrote: WHHHAAAAAAAT THE .......[/p][/quote]Not my "cup of tea", but consenting adults behind closed doors? Don't see the problem personally. Ritchie_Hicks
  • Score: -13

9:30am Fri 28 Feb 14

wearebeingwatched says...

I would happily take a free invite to swing with Rebecca ;-)
I would happily take a free invite to swing with Rebecca ;-) wearebeingwatched
  • Score: -4

9:32am Fri 28 Feb 14

linton68 says...

A good slap in the face for the negative element.
A good slap in the face for the negative element. linton68
  • Score: -23

10:06am Fri 28 Feb 14

stevedawson says...

Very sensible result.now they have to prove their words.l'm sure the locals will be watching.
Very sensible result.now they have to prove their words.l'm sure the locals will be watching. stevedawson
  • Score: -13

10:23am Fri 28 Feb 14

Say It As It Is OK? says...

It's a compromise allowing consent for a year! Not really the best solution and it is a difficult one because how can anyone move forward and invest capital in a project where the premises only have temporary planning consent.

I hope they will be responsible in running the venue but they will still have to contend with those who were against this club in the first place, some of these people are likely to continue to complain no matter what, even if it's just for the sake of complaining!

So Rebecca and Jason you must be very vigilant.
It's a compromise allowing consent for a year! Not really the best solution and it is a difficult one because how can anyone move forward and invest capital in a project where the premises only have temporary planning consent. I hope they will be responsible in running the venue but they will still have to contend with those who were against this club in the first place, some of these people are likely to continue to complain no matter what, even if it's just for the sake of complaining! So Rebecca and Jason you must be very vigilant. Say It As It Is OK?
  • Score: -13

11:19am Fri 28 Feb 14

Catchedicam says...

Good luck to them, a sensible decision.
Good luck to them, a sensible decision. Catchedicam
  • Score: -15

11:23am Fri 28 Feb 14

The Stinker Returns says...

Really? I find this very odd that people can (want) to set up a formal club where you and the missus go and openly shag someone else. I know it already happens (well I don't KNOW but it must do) but this smug couple actually want to formalise it at No. 66A. You'd be frightened to be seen anywhere near the place. What if you're the boiler service man......
Really? I find this very odd that people can (want) to set up a formal club where you and the missus go and openly shag someone else. I know it already happens (well I don't KNOW but it must do) but this smug couple actually want to formalise it at No. 66A. You'd be frightened to be seen anywhere near the place. What if you're the boiler service man...... The Stinker Returns
  • Score: 22

12:02pm Fri 28 Feb 14

romantic says...

The Stinker Returns wrote:
Really? I find this very odd that people can (want) to set up a formal club where you and the missus go and openly shag someone else. I know it already happens (well I don't KNOW but it must do) but this smug couple actually want to formalise it at No. 66A. You'd be frightened to be seen anywhere near the place. What if you're the boiler service man......
People do all sorts of stuff that I find odd, but these will be consenting adults who know what they are signing up for. Nobody will be there against their will, I doubt if they'll have huge neon signs outside or be harassing people on the street. I suggested to Mrs R that we pop along and she gave me a look which I will take as meaning No Chance in a Thousand Years, so I won't be darkening their doors, but really don't see the problem with this.
[quote][p][bold]The Stinker Returns[/bold] wrote: Really? I find this very odd that people can (want) to set up a formal club where you and the missus go and openly shag someone else. I know it already happens (well I don't KNOW but it must do) but this smug couple actually want to formalise it at No. 66A. You'd be frightened to be seen anywhere near the place. What if you're the boiler service man......[/p][/quote]People do all sorts of stuff that I find odd, but these will be consenting adults who know what they are signing up for. Nobody will be there against their will, I doubt if they'll have huge neon signs outside or be harassing people on the street. I suggested to Mrs R that we pop along and she gave me a look which I will take as meaning No Chance in a Thousand Years, so I won't be darkening their doors, but really don't see the problem with this. romantic
  • Score: -21

12:11pm Fri 28 Feb 14

exodus says...

An absolute disgrace that this is being allowed. Just watch the for sale signs appear in the neighbourhood! I for one will be moving away as soon as possible - who wants to live near a house of ill-repute!
An absolute disgrace that this is being allowed. Just watch the for sale signs appear in the neighbourhood! I for one will be moving away as soon as possible - who wants to live near a house of ill-repute! exodus
  • Score: 23

12:17pm Fri 28 Feb 14

wearebeingwatched says...

exodus wrote:
An absolute disgrace that this is being allowed. Just watch the for sale signs appear in the neighbourhood! I for one will be moving away as soon as possible - who wants to live near a house of ill-repute!
It is not a brothel, neither it is it illegal. You will find that the people that attend this club will be normal law abiding people that you pass everyday in the street or see in the supermarket and never give a second thought too.

They are not going to come knocking at your door asking you if you would like to join them in some numeric act.
[quote][p][bold]exodus[/bold] wrote: An absolute disgrace that this is being allowed. Just watch the for sale signs appear in the neighbourhood! I for one will be moving away as soon as possible - who wants to live near a house of ill-repute![/p][/quote]It is not a brothel, neither it is it illegal. You will find that the people that attend this club will be normal law abiding people that you pass everyday in the street or see in the supermarket and never give a second thought too. They are not going to come knocking at your door asking you if you would like to join them in some numeric act. wearebeingwatched
  • Score: -19

12:49pm Fri 28 Feb 14

SAndrewss says...

Good luck to them.

If after 12 months the local residents fears are realised, then permanent planning consent will not be granted. If on the other hand, it is all as low key and discreet as the applicant is suggesting, then there won't be any legitimate reasons for complaints.

Seems like a fair solution to effectively offer a trial period.
Good luck to them. If after 12 months the local residents fears are realised, then permanent planning consent will not be granted. If on the other hand, it is all as low key and discreet as the applicant is suggesting, then there won't be any legitimate reasons for complaints. Seems like a fair solution to effectively offer a trial period. SAndrewss
  • Score: -19

12:51pm Fri 28 Feb 14

Ritchie_Hicks says...

exodus wrote:
An absolute disgrace that this is being allowed. Just watch the for sale signs appear in the neighbourhood! I for one will be moving away as soon as possible - who wants to live near a house of ill-repute!
For all you know, it's happening at the house next door. Or over the road. Or even at one of your close relatives.
[quote][p][bold]exodus[/bold] wrote: An absolute disgrace that this is being allowed. Just watch the for sale signs appear in the neighbourhood! I for one will be moving away as soon as possible - who wants to live near a house of ill-repute![/p][/quote]For all you know, it's happening at the house next door. Or over the road. Or even at one of your close relatives. Ritchie_Hicks
  • Score: -22

3:26pm Fri 28 Feb 14

Treeman1963 says...

Sex and immigration. Always guarantees lots of comments.
Sex and immigration. Always guarantees lots of comments. Treeman1963
  • Score: -12

3:55pm Fri 28 Feb 14

dog man says...

exodus wrote:
An absolute disgrace that this is being allowed. Just watch the for sale signs appear in the neighbourhood! I for one will be moving away as soon as possible - who wants to live near a house of ill-repute!
can I buy you house then
[quote][p][bold]exodus[/bold] wrote: An absolute disgrace that this is being allowed. Just watch the for sale signs appear in the neighbourhood! I for one will be moving away as soon as possible - who wants to live near a house of ill-repute![/p][/quote]can I buy you house then dog man
  • Score: -19

3:58pm Fri 28 Feb 14

dog man says...

Fantastic you old Lexden people need to stop moaning like a group of old snobs you need to get over your selves.
Fantastic you old Lexden people need to stop moaning like a group of old snobs you need to get over your selves. dog man
  • Score: -31

5:39pm Fri 28 Feb 14

Reginald47 says...

The Stinker Returns wrote:
Really? I find this very odd that people can (want) to set up a formal club where you and the missus go and openly shag someone else. I know it already happens (well I don't KNOW but it must do) but this smug couple actually want to formalise it at No. 66A. You'd be frightened to be seen anywhere near the place. What if you're the boiler service man......
People do all sorts of odd things - like voting UKIP for instance - but it's not illegal.
[quote][p][bold]The Stinker Returns[/bold] wrote: Really? I find this very odd that people can (want) to set up a formal club where you and the missus go and openly shag someone else. I know it already happens (well I don't KNOW but it must do) but this smug couple actually want to formalise it at No. 66A. You'd be frightened to be seen anywhere near the place. What if you're the boiler service man......[/p][/quote]People do all sorts of odd things - like voting UKIP for instance - but it's not illegal. Reginald47
  • Score: -20

8:12pm Fri 28 Feb 14

lm1234 says...

What exactly is a swingers club? It's only ever eluded to so it's hard to know the facts. I'd be happy if this club is there for people to socialise and meet others with their shared..interest. However if the activity is going on inside I'm not sure I'd be okay with that down my road!
What exactly is a swingers club? It's only ever eluded to so it's hard to know the facts. I'd be happy if this club is there for people to socialise and meet others with their shared..interest. However if the activity is going on inside I'm not sure I'd be okay with that down my road! lm1234
  • Score: -4

8:19pm Fri 28 Feb 14

angus_mcoat_up says...

exodus wrote:
An absolute disgrace that this is being allowed. Just watch the for sale signs appear in the neighbourhood! I for one will be moving away as soon as possible - who wants to live near a house of ill-repute!
I'd know how you feel exodus, if someone built a building near my house & a couple of hundred people a week turned up every week & parked their cars willy nilly & sat talking about & to an imaginary man who lives in clouds & goes under different guises & sometimes says it's ok to blow people up or do hideous things to other human beings in his name but pop round to my building a few times, have a one sided chat & I'll forgive you, then I'd feel just as outraged as yourself, but I don't, I let people do what (legally) makes them happy.
[quote][p][bold]exodus[/bold] wrote: An absolute disgrace that this is being allowed. Just watch the for sale signs appear in the neighbourhood! I for one will be moving away as soon as possible - who wants to live near a house of ill-repute![/p][/quote]I'd know how you feel exodus, if someone built a building near my house & a couple of hundred people a week turned up every week & parked their cars willy nilly & sat talking about & to an imaginary man who lives in clouds & goes under different guises & sometimes says it's ok to blow people up or do hideous things to other human beings in his name but pop round to my building a few times, have a one sided chat & I'll forgive you, then I'd feel just as outraged as yourself, but I don't, I let people do what (legally) makes them happy. angus_mcoat_up
  • Score: -18

8:51pm Fri 28 Feb 14

Fnagster says...

I wouldn't mind going along for a quick swing. It would be even better if they had a see-saw and a merry go round!
I wouldn't mind going along for a quick swing. It would be even better if they had a see-saw and a merry go round! Fnagster
  • Score: -15

9:03pm Fri 28 Feb 14

A Very Private Gentleman says...

Casting all the joke aside the permission has been passed it is a question of how this works in a fair and open society.

The chap in the photo above looks different than the one originally posted with the black jacket and bow tie

Are we still talking about the same owners?

My best wishes to you both I would like to come but I am not attractive so I think my attendance would be pointless

Jack+
Casting all the joke aside the permission has been passed it is a question of how this works in a fair and open society. The chap in the photo above looks different than the one originally posted with the black jacket and bow tie Are we still talking about the same owners? My best wishes to you both I would like to come but I am not attractive so I think my attendance would be pointless Jack+ A Very Private Gentleman
  • Score: -30

9:55pm Fri 28 Feb 14

talllboy says...

Say It As It Is OK? wrote:
It's a compromise allowing consent for a year! Not really the best solution and it is a difficult one because how can anyone move forward and invest capital in a project where the premises only have temporary planning consent.

I hope they will be responsible in running the venue but they will still have to contend with those who were against this club in the first place, some of these people are likely to continue to complain no matter what, even if it's just for the sake of complaining!

So Rebecca and Jason you must be very vigilant.
Looks like they are ahead of you - the place appears to be bristling with night vision surveillance cameras.
[quote][p][bold]Say It As It Is OK?[/bold] wrote: It's a compromise allowing consent for a year! Not really the best solution and it is a difficult one because how can anyone move forward and invest capital in a project where the premises only have temporary planning consent. I hope they will be responsible in running the venue but they will still have to contend with those who were against this club in the first place, some of these people are likely to continue to complain no matter what, even if it's just for the sake of complaining! So Rebecca and Jason you must be very vigilant.[/p][/quote]Looks like they are ahead of you - the place appears to be bristling with night vision surveillance cameras. talllboy
  • Score: -15

11:14pm Fri 28 Feb 14

Assimilation says...

It`s all swings and roundabouts really. Do you swing to the left or the right. If neither, do you form a circle?
It`s all swings and roundabouts really. Do you swing to the left or the right. If neither, do you form a circle? Assimilation
  • Score: -17

8:41am Sat 1 Mar 14

jut1972 says...

Get in....
Get in.... jut1972
  • Score: -21

4:55pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Jason_Mingles says...

A Very Private Gentleman wrote:
Casting all the joke aside the permission has been passed it is a question of how this works in a fair and open society.

The chap in the photo above looks different than the one originally posted with the black jacket and bow tie

Are we still talking about the same owners?

My best wishes to you both I would like to come but I am not attractive so I think my attendance would be pointless

Jack+
Hi Jake, yes it is still the same owners, the picture of me in a bow tie was an old one the newspaper found on my twitter account which I had forgotten about as I hardly ever use twitter. The most up to date photo is the one above, I have lost a bit of weight (and lost a bit of hair) since the bow tie picture.

It was your point about not being attractive that made me reply to you.

As you can see by my own picture I'm not the best looking guy in town, but that doesn't really matter, its far better to have good social and communication skills if you want to go to a swingers club.

Please dont think I'm am trying to sell our particular club to you, but an appreciation of the lifestyle which is easy to research on google will give you more of an idea on the general etiquette that is expected in such an establishment and you will find you are accepted without judgement into the lifestyle very easily.

Jason
[quote][p][bold]A Very Private Gentleman[/bold] wrote: Casting all the joke aside the permission has been passed it is a question of how this works in a fair and open society. The chap in the photo above looks different than the one originally posted with the black jacket and bow tie Are we still talking about the same owners? My best wishes to you both I would like to come but I am not attractive so I think my attendance would be pointless Jack+[/p][/quote]Hi Jake, yes it is still the same owners, the picture of me in a bow tie was an old one the newspaper found on my twitter account which I had forgotten about as I hardly ever use twitter. The most up to date photo is the one above, I have lost a bit of weight (and lost a bit of hair) since the bow tie picture. It was your point about not being attractive that made me reply to you. As you can see by my own picture I'm not the best looking guy in town, but that doesn't really matter, its far better to have good social and communication skills if you want to go to a swingers club. Please dont think I'm am trying to sell our particular club to you, but an appreciation of the lifestyle which is easy to research on google will give you more of an idea on the general etiquette that is expected in such an establishment and you will find you are accepted without judgement into the lifestyle very easily. Jason Jason_Mingles
  • Score: -26

4:56pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Jason_Mingles says...

Sorry Jack not Jake
Sorry Jack not Jake Jason_Mingles
  • Score: -22

10:43pm Sat 1 Mar 14

stewycaz says...

Why is this any worse than what your neighbours get up to of an evening?! It is legal, consensual, and happening behind closed doors so you don't have to watch (unless you want to!) It is making me so angry reading some of your belittling comments, from you who think your too posh and live in a "posh neighbourhood" . Good on the club and the owners and whilst I am unlikely to frequent this place, I certainly feel that as long as it not causing any harm then they have every right to be there!
Why is this any worse than what your neighbours get up to of an evening?! It is legal, consensual, and happening behind closed doors so you don't have to watch (unless you want to!) It is making me so angry reading some of your belittling comments, from you who think your too posh and live in a "posh neighbourhood" . Good on the club and the owners and whilst I am unlikely to frequent this place, I certainly feel that as long as it not causing any harm then they have every right to be there! stewycaz
  • Score: -35

1:39am Sun 2 Mar 14

Jake124 says...

I am absolutely appalled and outraged with this disgraceful planning decision! The middle of residential Lexden is not an appropriate location for a nightclub of any description, let alone one where people go to have sexual relations with strangers while being watched by other perverts and voyeurs. This is actually a step down from a seedy motel and no better than a brothel. The fact that the proprietors are encouraging their ‘clientele’ to bring their own alcohol to the premises clearly demonstrates that they’re actively appealing to the lowest common denominator. It’s deeply troubling to consider the type of urchins from the feckless underclass that will undoubtedly end up frequenting this hovel. No doubt antisocial behaviour and criminality will increase, attracting undesirables that have no business in Lexden to the area.
I am absolutely appalled and outraged with this disgraceful planning decision! The middle of residential Lexden is not an appropriate location for a nightclub of any description, let alone one where people go to have sexual relations with strangers while being watched by other perverts and voyeurs. This is actually a step down from a seedy motel and no better than a brothel. The fact that the proprietors are encouraging their ‘clientele’ to bring their own alcohol to the premises clearly demonstrates that they’re actively appealing to the lowest common denominator. It’s deeply troubling to consider the type of urchins from the feckless underclass that will undoubtedly end up frequenting this hovel. No doubt antisocial behaviour and criminality will increase, attracting undesirables that have no business in Lexden to the area. Jake124
  • Score: 36

7:48am Sun 2 Mar 14

shrubender1 says...

Jake124 wrote:
I am absolutely appalled and outraged with this disgraceful planning decision! The middle of residential Lexden is not an appropriate location for a nightclub of any description, let alone one where people go to have sexual relations with strangers while being watched by other perverts and voyeurs. This is actually a step down from a seedy motel and no better than a brothel. The fact that the proprietors are encouraging their ‘clientele’ to bring their own alcohol to the premises clearly demonstrates that they’re actively appealing to the lowest common denominator. It’s deeply troubling to consider the type of urchins from the feckless underclass that will undoubtedly end up frequenting this hovel. No doubt antisocial behaviour and criminality will increase, attracting undesirables that have no business in Lexden to the area.
get a life you tosser, by the way , will your wife be there.....
[quote][p][bold]Jake124[/bold] wrote: I am absolutely appalled and outraged with this disgraceful planning decision! The middle of residential Lexden is not an appropriate location for a nightclub of any description, let alone one where people go to have sexual relations with strangers while being watched by other perverts and voyeurs. This is actually a step down from a seedy motel and no better than a brothel. The fact that the proprietors are encouraging their ‘clientele’ to bring their own alcohol to the premises clearly demonstrates that they’re actively appealing to the lowest common denominator. It’s deeply troubling to consider the type of urchins from the feckless underclass that will undoubtedly end up frequenting this hovel. No doubt antisocial behaviour and criminality will increase, attracting undesirables that have no business in Lexden to the area.[/p][/quote]get a life you tosser, by the way , will your wife be there..... shrubender1
  • Score: -34

9:19am Sun 2 Mar 14

jamest says...

People drinking alcohol??!! People having sex??!! In Stanway??!! (stop trying to sound posh and saying Lexden).

Whatever will they think of next? They'll be wearing short skirts and open necked shirts with no tie soon!
People drinking alcohol??!! People having sex??!! In Stanway??!! (stop trying to sound posh and saying Lexden). Whatever will they think of next? They'll be wearing short skirts and open necked shirts with no tie soon! jamest
  • Score: -27

7:44am Mon 3 Mar 14

Jue_uk says...

A 'Private Members Club', so why does it have to be a big story in the paper, Surely the only people who should have been consulted were people living near this.
There are other much more worthy stories like the lovely people raising money for cancer in memory of their son, that should take far more priority than this.
A 'Private Members Club', so why does it have to be a big story in the paper, Surely the only people who should have been consulted were people living near this. There are other much more worthy stories like the lovely people raising money for cancer in memory of their son, that should take far more priority than this. Jue_uk
  • Score: 1

12:50pm Mon 3 Mar 14

SAndrewss says...

Jue_uk wrote:
A 'Private Members Club', so why does it have to be a big story in the paper, Surely the only people who should have been consulted were people living near this.
There are other much more worthy stories like the lovely people raising money for cancer in memory of their son, that should take far more priority than this.
I suspect it is because the owners themselves wanted the publicity.
[quote][p][bold]Jue_uk[/bold] wrote: A 'Private Members Club', so why does it have to be a big story in the paper, Surely the only people who should have been consulted were people living near this. There are other much more worthy stories like the lovely people raising money for cancer in memory of their son, that should take far more priority than this.[/p][/quote]I suspect it is because the owners themselves wanted the publicity. SAndrewss
  • Score: 20

4:00pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Planning rebel says...

SAndrewss wrote:
Jue_uk wrote:
A 'Private Members Club', so why does it have to be a big story in the paper, Surely the only people who should have been consulted were people living near this.
There are other much more worthy stories like the lovely people raising money for cancer in memory of their son, that should take far more priority than this.
I suspect it is because the owners themselves wanted the publicity.
If you refer back to when the story first "broke" you will see that it wasn't the applicants who'd courted publicity, but the nearby residents who were hoping to kick up a storm of bad publicity for them.

As far as I can see, Jason & Rebecca have done everything they can to allay peoples fears and have replied to each of their queries as they've arisen.

It seems quite a sensible option for a one year trial period.... would you say "a suck it and see?"
[quote][p][bold]SAndrewss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jue_uk[/bold] wrote: A 'Private Members Club', so why does it have to be a big story in the paper, Surely the only people who should have been consulted were people living near this. There are other much more worthy stories like the lovely people raising money for cancer in memory of their son, that should take far more priority than this.[/p][/quote]I suspect it is because the owners themselves wanted the publicity.[/p][/quote]If you refer back to when the story first "broke" you will see that it wasn't the applicants who'd courted publicity, but the nearby residents who were hoping to kick up a storm of bad publicity for them. As far as I can see, Jason & Rebecca have done everything they can to allay peoples fears and have replied to each of their queries as they've arisen. It seems quite a sensible option for a one year trial period.... would you say "a suck it and see?" Planning rebel
  • Score: -15

7:06pm Mon 3 Mar 14

dog man says...

Jake124 wrote:
I am absolutely appalled and outraged with this disgraceful planning decision! The middle of residential Lexden is not an appropriate location for a nightclub of any description, let alone one where people go to have sexual relations with strangers while being watched by other perverts and voyeurs. This is actually a step down from a seedy motel and no better than a brothel. The fact that the proprietors are encouraging their ‘clientele’ to bring their own alcohol to the premises clearly demonstrates that they’re actively appealing to the lowest common denominator. It’s deeply troubling to consider the type of urchins from the feckless underclass that will undoubtedly end up frequenting this hovel. No doubt antisocial behaviour and criminality will increase, attracting undesirables that have no business in Lexden to the area.
its a perfect location for a swingers club Lexden is full of money, and rich people with money to burn. There is nothing wrong with this swingers club there wont be any trouble. Why would there be who wants to let every one know that they have been to a swingers club. The real problem is that people in Lexden think that they are too posh for anything, well your not.
[quote][p][bold]Jake124[/bold] wrote: I am absolutely appalled and outraged with this disgraceful planning decision! The middle of residential Lexden is not an appropriate location for a nightclub of any description, let alone one where people go to have sexual relations with strangers while being watched by other perverts and voyeurs. This is actually a step down from a seedy motel and no better than a brothel. The fact that the proprietors are encouraging their ‘clientele’ to bring their own alcohol to the premises clearly demonstrates that they’re actively appealing to the lowest common denominator. It’s deeply troubling to consider the type of urchins from the feckless underclass that will undoubtedly end up frequenting this hovel. No doubt antisocial behaviour and criminality will increase, attracting undesirables that have no business in Lexden to the area.[/p][/quote]its a perfect location for a swingers club Lexden is full of money, and rich people with money to burn. There is nothing wrong with this swingers club there wont be any trouble. Why would there be who wants to let every one know that they have been to a swingers club. The real problem is that people in Lexden think that they are too posh for anything, well your not. dog man
  • Score: -26

11:00am Tue 4 Mar 14

zt00013 says...

Jake124 wrote:
I am absolutely appalled and outraged with this disgraceful planning decision! The middle of residential Lexden is not an appropriate location for a nightclub of any description, let alone one where people go to have sexual relations with strangers while being watched by other perverts and voyeurs. This is actually a step down from a seedy motel and no better than a brothel. The fact that the proprietors are encouraging their ‘clientele’ to bring their own alcohol to the premises clearly demonstrates that they’re actively appealing to the lowest common denominator. It’s deeply troubling to consider the type of urchins from the feckless underclass that will undoubtedly end up frequenting this hovel. No doubt antisocial behaviour and criminality will increase, attracting undesirables that have no business in Lexden to the area.
This is not a nightclub.

The area is not the middle of residential Lexden, it is opposite an emergency vehicle repair garage and a bank. Next door are fast food outlets and other shops. The road is a main road with heavy traffic. There are few houses in the immediate area.

Bring your own alcohol is a policy that reflects how little alcohol plays a role in swinging. There is no point paying for a license when it is not your main selling point and may not be frequently. BYOB is a recognition of the fact that some members may want a drink.

Swinging will attract a broad spectrum of people and not a particular socio-economic group. However, in the main you will find that swinging is very much a middle class pursuit.

It is deeply concerning that such situations bring people like you out the woodwork. Commentators on these message boards are normally intelligent and refined. Then a story about sex and swivel eyed loons come pouring onto the site.
[quote][p][bold]Jake124[/bold] wrote: I am absolutely appalled and outraged with this disgraceful planning decision! The middle of residential Lexden is not an appropriate location for a nightclub of any description, let alone one where people go to have sexual relations with strangers while being watched by other perverts and voyeurs. This is actually a step down from a seedy motel and no better than a brothel. The fact that the proprietors are encouraging their ‘clientele’ to bring their own alcohol to the premises clearly demonstrates that they’re actively appealing to the lowest common denominator. It’s deeply troubling to consider the type of urchins from the feckless underclass that will undoubtedly end up frequenting this hovel. No doubt antisocial behaviour and criminality will increase, attracting undesirables that have no business in Lexden to the area.[/p][/quote]This is not a nightclub. The area is not the middle of residential Lexden, it is opposite an emergency vehicle repair garage and a bank. Next door are fast food outlets and other shops. The road is a main road with heavy traffic. There are few houses in the immediate area. Bring your own alcohol is a policy that reflects how little alcohol plays a role in swinging. There is no point paying for a license when it is not your main selling point and may not be frequently. BYOB is a recognition of the fact that some members may want a drink. Swinging will attract a broad spectrum of people and not a particular socio-economic group. However, in the main you will find that swinging is very much a middle class pursuit. It is deeply concerning that such situations bring people like you out the woodwork. Commentators on these message boards are normally intelligent and refined. Then a story about sex and swivel eyed loons come pouring onto the site. zt00013
  • Score: -17

7:14pm Tue 4 Mar 14

dog man says...

Jake124 wrote:
I am absolutely appalled and outraged with this disgraceful planning decision! The middle of residential Lexden is not an appropriate location for a nightclub of any description, let alone one where people go to have sexual relations with strangers while being watched by other perverts and voyeurs. This is actually a step down from a seedy motel and no better than a brothel. The fact that the proprietors are encouraging their ‘clientele’ to bring their own alcohol to the premises clearly demonstrates that they’re actively appealing to the lowest common denominator. It’s deeply troubling to consider the type of urchins from the feckless underclass that will undoubtedly end up frequenting this hovel. No doubt antisocial behaviour and criminality will increase, attracting undesirables that have no business in Lexden to the area.
I bet you are a swinger and trying to hide it. Or it sounds like you need to have A good time
[quote][p][bold]Jake124[/bold] wrote: I am absolutely appalled and outraged with this disgraceful planning decision! The middle of residential Lexden is not an appropriate location for a nightclub of any description, let alone one where people go to have sexual relations with strangers while being watched by other perverts and voyeurs. This is actually a step down from a seedy motel and no better than a brothel. The fact that the proprietors are encouraging their ‘clientele’ to bring their own alcohol to the premises clearly demonstrates that they’re actively appealing to the lowest common denominator. It’s deeply troubling to consider the type of urchins from the feckless underclass that will undoubtedly end up frequenting this hovel. No doubt antisocial behaviour and criminality will increase, attracting undesirables that have no business in Lexden to the area.[/p][/quote]I bet you are a swinger and trying to hide it. Or it sounds like you need to have A good time dog man
  • Score: -14

9:55pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Hamiltonandy says...

Unfair of anonymous commentators to personally abuse those who regard a sex club in Lexden unacceptable. The arguments of those who support the "swingers" lifestyle could equally apply to a brothel. The owner of 66a, London Road hopes to make money out of this sordid trade from his sad customers. Hopefully he will be closing down long before the one year planning permission expires.
Unfair of anonymous commentators to personally abuse those who regard a sex club in Lexden unacceptable. The arguments of those who support the "swingers" lifestyle could equally apply to a brothel. The owner of 66a, London Road hopes to make money out of this sordid trade from his sad customers. Hopefully he will be closing down long before the one year planning permission expires. Hamiltonandy
  • Score: 23

10:02pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Ritchie_Hicks says...

Hamiltonandy wrote:
Unfair of anonymous commentators to personally abuse those who regard a sex club in Lexden unacceptable. The arguments of those who support the "swingers" lifestyle could equally apply to a brothel. The owner of 66a, London Road hopes to make money out of this sordid trade from his sad customers. Hopefully he will be closing down long before the one year planning permission expires.
Massive exgageration.
[quote][p][bold]Hamiltonandy[/bold] wrote: Unfair of anonymous commentators to personally abuse those who regard a sex club in Lexden unacceptable. The arguments of those who support the "swingers" lifestyle could equally apply to a brothel. The owner of 66a, London Road hopes to make money out of this sordid trade from his sad customers. Hopefully he will be closing down long before the one year planning permission expires.[/p][/quote]Massive exgageration. Ritchie_Hicks
  • Score: -13

11:13pm Tue 4 Mar 14

jut1972 says...

Hamiltonandy wrote:
Unfair of anonymous commentators to personally abuse those who regard a sex club in Lexden unacceptable. The arguments of those who support the "swingers" lifestyle could equally apply to a brothel. The owner of 66a, London Road hopes to make money out of this sordid trade from his sad customers. Hopefully he will be closing down long before the one year planning permission expires.
Sad in your view. Your blinkered nasty petty vindictive etc view.
Me? I won't be going but I wouldn't wish ill on those that do unlike yourself.
[quote][p][bold]Hamiltonandy[/bold] wrote: Unfair of anonymous commentators to personally abuse those who regard a sex club in Lexden unacceptable. The arguments of those who support the "swingers" lifestyle could equally apply to a brothel. The owner of 66a, London Road hopes to make money out of this sordid trade from his sad customers. Hopefully he will be closing down long before the one year planning permission expires.[/p][/quote]Sad in your view. Your blinkered nasty petty vindictive etc view. Me? I won't be going but I wouldn't wish ill on those that do unlike yourself. jut1972
  • Score: -16

11:42am Thu 6 Mar 14

zt00013 says...

Hamiltonandy wrote:
Unfair of anonymous commentators to personally abuse those who regard a sex club in Lexden unacceptable. The arguments of those who support the "swingers" lifestyle could equally apply to a brothel. The owner of 66a, London Road hopes to make money out of this sordid trade from his sad customers. Hopefully he will be closing down long before the one year planning permission expires.
The arguments could apply to a brothel but only to a certain extent. Furthermore, it would depend on the type of brothel. Also, you probably shouldn't introduce another debate, your arguments against will be equally weak. However, equating a swingers club to a brothel is equivalent to equating a normal house with a brothel. Are you rallying against buildings which people have sex in because this bizarre and clearly ridiculous.

Those who regard a swingers club as unacceptable are attempting to impose their own morality on others. The club will not affect their daily life one iota so they are behaving in an unacceptable and offensive manner. No one as the right to dictate to consenting adults what is and is not appropriate, frankly it is none of their business.
[quote][p][bold]Hamiltonandy[/bold] wrote: Unfair of anonymous commentators to personally abuse those who regard a sex club in Lexden unacceptable. The arguments of those who support the "swingers" lifestyle could equally apply to a brothel. The owner of 66a, London Road hopes to make money out of this sordid trade from his sad customers. Hopefully he will be closing down long before the one year planning permission expires.[/p][/quote]The arguments could apply to a brothel but only to a certain extent. Furthermore, it would depend on the type of brothel. Also, you probably shouldn't introduce another debate, your arguments against will be equally weak. However, equating a swingers club to a brothel is equivalent to equating a normal house with a brothel. Are you rallying against buildings which people have sex in because this bizarre and clearly ridiculous. Those who regard a swingers club as unacceptable are attempting to impose their own morality on others. The club will not affect their daily life one iota so they are behaving in an unacceptable and offensive manner. No one as the right to dictate to consenting adults what is and is not appropriate, frankly it is none of their business. zt00013
  • Score: 2

11:45am Thu 6 Mar 14

zt00013 says...

exodus wrote:
An absolute disgrace that this is being allowed. Just watch the for sale signs appear in the neighbourhood! I for one will be moving away as soon as possible - who wants to live near a house of ill-repute!
I do if it guarantees that I won't live anywhere near people of your ilk.
[quote][p][bold]exodus[/bold] wrote: An absolute disgrace that this is being allowed. Just watch the for sale signs appear in the neighbourhood! I for one will be moving away as soon as possible - who wants to live near a house of ill-repute![/p][/quote]I do if it guarantees that I won't live anywhere near people of your ilk. zt00013
  • Score: -1

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