More than 1,000 sign up to petition against bus lane fines

Gazette: More than 1,000 sign up to petition against bus lane fines More than 1,000 sign up to petition against bus lane fines

MORE than 1,000 people have urged council bosses to stop handing out fines to motorists who mistakenly use Colchester town centre’s new bus lanes.

A great online revolt has been launched this week against new traffic restrictions by residents and visitors to Colchester who say they are too confusing.

Many believe businesses will suffer because baffled visitors handed fines will not come to Colchester town centre any more.

Some have accused Essex County Council of using the bus lanes, which impose restrictions up North Hill and on motorists turning from the High Street on to Queen Street, as a cash cow.

A petition at www.change.org, set up by Jerry-Ann Cotterill and Chris and Jane Harvey on New Year’s Eve, attracted 750 signatures within 24 hours.

The number of supporters was expected to top 1,000 last night.

It calls on County Hall to stop issuing tickets until the signs and markings informing motorists of the restrictions are much clearer.

Mrs Cotterill, 25, of Hazelton Road, Colchester, said the petition had been launched after her husband Paul had picked up a fine for using North Hill without realising the ban was in place.

She said: “We did a bit of research and we noticed a lot of people on Facebook had been saying the same thing – they’d got fines and they were completely unaware there were bus lanes.

“That’s why we started the petition and we’ve already had a brilliant response. There are a lot of people out there who are not happy. We’ve appealed because the signs are inadequate.

The council should have picked up there are so many problems here because it is issuing so many fines.

“They should be thinking hang on a minute, why are people not aware rather than just giving more fines.

“I can understand that people don’t want to go into town and that’s not good for business.”

Two new Facebook groups, with more than 800 members between them, are also packedwith complaints from angry motorists unsure why they have been fined.

The £60 fines are halved to £30 if paid within 14 days, but jump to £90 if left for 28 days or more.

The Gazette asked Essex County Council on December 13 to reveal how many penalty charge notices had been issued. The authority said in a statement this week it was still calculating howmany had been issued.

In November, the Gazette revealed between October 24, when the cameras were turned on, and November 14, 802 penalty charge notices had been issued.

If the trend of issuing nearly 40 tickets a day continued, then about 2,500 tickets will have been sent out by the end of 2013.

A consultation on town centre changes will be published this year.

An Essex County Council spokesman said: “The restrictions were re-introduced as an experimental traffic order, the consultation period for which has recently finished. We are reviewing the responses to the consultation and assessing the need for any alterations.”

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8:17am Fri 3 Jan 14

linton68 says...

I got a ticket even though i switched back to the east hill lane BEFORE actually turning into queen st. How can that be right? There should give motorists more time to get used to the changes .
I got a ticket even though i switched back to the east hill lane BEFORE actually turning into queen st. How can that be right? There should give motorists more time to get used to the changes . linton68
  • Score: 1

9:15am Fri 3 Jan 14

TheBrotherhoodOfTheBell says...

WHAT A BUNCH OF WHINGING D**KH**DS

cant you read road traffic sigins,,,i suggest you buy a copy of the highway code...

if your fined tough

give Killian & Pritchard the money & shut up

Hearts are bleeding for you....i mean you actually think by switching lanes the camera is going to think oh what a nice person they tried to be good y two shoes lets let them off....really...???

The fact of the matter is big brother zapped you and your B**LLO**S'

I say let the camera's stay who wants to shop in colchester now anyway apart from Willy G's most of the town is stuffed now.

everyone goes to Freeport...Tollgate.
...or ......eBay....its a lot safer!!!

You only go into town for a bank....an estate agent...or to get your faced punched in by some spotty drunken drugged out thug::::
WHAT A BUNCH OF WHINGING D**KH**DS cant you read road traffic sigins,,,i suggest you buy a copy of the highway code... if your fined tough give Killian & Pritchard the money & shut up Hearts are bleeding for you....i mean you actually think by switching lanes the camera is going to think oh what a nice person they tried to be good y two shoes lets let them off....really...??? The fact of the matter is big brother zapped you and your B**LLO**S' I say let the camera's stay who wants to shop in colchester now anyway apart from Willy G's most of the town is stuffed now. everyone goes to Freeport...Tollgate. ...or ......eBay....its a lot safer!!! You only go into town for a bank....an estate agent...or to get your faced punched in by some spotty drunken drugged out thug:::: TheBrotherhoodOfTheBell
  • Score: -2

10:05am Fri 3 Jan 14

Route88 says...

I should have thought that together with the signs (which are adequate) there has been enough advance local publicity to warn people of the changes.
I should have thought that together with the signs (which are adequate) there has been enough advance local publicity to warn people of the changes. Route88
  • Score: 6

10:52am Fri 3 Jan 14

Ontheball says...

No sympathy whatsoever. A bus lane is what is says and not for ignorant and selfish drivers who think they own the road. Glad to see that a fixed camera is now also in place at the bottom of North Hill to catch the self same drivers who think they are immune to traffic control. Whether you like the system or not, it is not an excuse to take the p.
No sympathy whatsoever. A bus lane is what is says and not for ignorant and selfish drivers who think they own the road. Glad to see that a fixed camera is now also in place at the bottom of North Hill to catch the self same drivers who think they are immune to traffic control. Whether you like the system or not, it is not an excuse to take the p. Ontheball
  • Score: -2

12:29pm Fri 3 Jan 14

romantic says...

I don't think anyone can argue the High St-Queen St one is unclear, although it is clearly ridiculous to have bus lanes in operation 24/7. The Head St-High St one is definitely confusing if you're a visitor going to, say, The George or Red Lion. The history of CBC and ECC on the concept of "consultation" does not suggest this will be changed. Personally, I favoured completely pedestrianizing the High St. This is a fudged compromise which just sends people into making risky turns at the top of East Hill. If you want to reach Priory St from the west, the only other way is down Vineyard St and across Queen St.

But sadly, traffic enforcement types don't tend to have much sympathy, even if you stray into the bus lane just for a few yards. They may claim to have no targets etc, but I bet questions would be asked if nothing was raked in from these cameras.
I don't think anyone can argue the High St-Queen St one is unclear, although it is clearly ridiculous to have bus lanes in operation 24/7. The Head St-High St one is definitely confusing if you're a visitor going to, say, The George or Red Lion. The history of CBC and ECC on the concept of "consultation" does not suggest this will be changed. Personally, I favoured completely pedestrianizing the High St. This is a fudged compromise which just sends people into making risky turns at the top of East Hill. If you want to reach Priory St from the west, the only other way is down Vineyard St and across Queen St. But sadly, traffic enforcement types don't tend to have much sympathy, even if you stray into the bus lane just for a few yards. They may claim to have no targets etc, but I bet questions would be asked if nothing was raked in from these cameras. romantic
  • Score: 5

1:17pm Fri 3 Jan 14

SiBeard says...

Do you not think that by issuing an estimated 2,500 tickets in around 2 months (40 a day) shows that the new initiative hasn’t been publicised widely enough?

my issue is the lanes were put in then rapidly closed... once they were reopened the signs didn’t seem to obviously change. I, along with many other residents, have driven down the high street to queen street 4 or 5 times a week every week since the failed bus lane experiment stopped in April. To my mind and to many others the changes made to warn us that they had reopened were not sufficient enough.

if I have parked illegally, or been caught littering or speeding I will pay the fine. It’s a fair cop guv, I’m in the wrong. in this case i feel there is too much in question. people I know now have 6, 7, 8 fines coming though. this can’t be right can it? it feels like we are being mugged.
Do you not think that by issuing an estimated 2,500 tickets in around 2 months (40 a day) shows that the new initiative hasn’t been publicised widely enough? my issue is the lanes were put in then rapidly closed... once they were reopened the signs didn’t seem to obviously change. I, along with many other residents, have driven down the high street to queen street 4 or 5 times a week every week since the failed bus lane experiment stopped in April. To my mind and to many others the changes made to warn us that they had reopened were not sufficient enough. if I have parked illegally, or been caught littering or speeding I will pay the fine. It’s a fair cop guv, I’m in the wrong. in this case i feel there is too much in question. people I know now have 6, 7, 8 fines coming though. this can’t be right can it? it feels like we are being mugged. SiBeard
  • Score: 10

2:57pm Fri 3 Jan 14

mechanic7 says...

So over 1000 people have signed a petition about the fines for using bus lanes . Did this include the 800 + who have been issued with fines as they can obviously not read as the signs are clear enough. It has been widely advertised but these people choose to ignore the signs or if they cannot read then they should not be driving. I have seen people drive down the High Street and at the last moment drive into the Bus lane totally ignoring the Big sign that is up there. These people deserve to be fined. !
So over 1000 people have signed a petition about the fines for using bus lanes . Did this include the 800 + who have been issued with fines as they can obviously not read as the signs are clear enough. It has been widely advertised but these people choose to ignore the signs or if they cannot read then they should not be driving. I have seen people drive down the High Street and at the last moment drive into the Bus lane totally ignoring the Big sign that is up there. These people deserve to be fined. ! mechanic7
  • Score: 1

3:00pm Fri 3 Jan 14

mechanic7 says...

Linton68 says he switched into the East Hill lane and did not turn into Queen St. This means he was IN the Bus Lane which in itself is the offence.
Linton68 says he switched into the East Hill lane and did not turn into Queen St. This means he was IN the Bus Lane which in itself is the offence. mechanic7
  • Score: 4

3:44pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Planning rebel says...

I am one of those apparently "ignorant and selfish" people. I came through town after 10pm and was completely unaware of the bus lane changes.... did I see the signs and road markings? No! If I had then I wouldn't have driven in the bus lane. Why didn't I see them? Because there aren't enough warning signs before you get to the bus lane. I was behind a bus (ironically) and because of this the sign and the road markings were obstructed. By the time you realise you're in a bus lane it's too late (as linton68 has found out) - there is no taper lane and signs should appear 30m before the lane is enforceable.
I am one of those apparently "ignorant and selfish" people. I came through town after 10pm and was completely unaware of the bus lane changes.... did I see the signs and road markings? No! If I had then I wouldn't have driven in the bus lane. Why didn't I see them? Because there aren't enough warning signs before you get to the bus lane. I was behind a bus (ironically) and because of this the sign and the road markings were obstructed. By the time you realise you're in a bus lane it's too late (as linton68 has found out) - there is no taper lane and signs should appear 30m before the lane is enforceable. Planning rebel
  • Score: 4

4:09pm Fri 3 Jan 14

SiBeard says...

by the way... does anyone know why the bus lanes have even been put in place? are they helping matters? is traffic on east & Balkern Hill now even worse than it was?
by the way... does anyone know why the bus lanes have even been put in place? are they helping matters? is traffic on east & Balkern Hill now even worse than it was? SiBeard
  • Score: 7

5:31pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Brooks Forbutox says...

OYEZ! HUNDREDS FINED FOR NOT READING LOCAL PAPER!
OYEZ! HUNDREDS FINED FOR NOT READING LOCAL PAPER! Brooks Forbutox
  • Score: 0

5:34pm Fri 3 Jan 14

linton68 says...

mechanic7 wrote:
Linton68 says he switched into the East Hill lane and did not turn into Queen St. This means he was IN the Bus Lane which in itself is the offence.
Youre absolutely right mechanic7, but the point i am trying to make is... The bus lane regulation only came into force in October, there must be many drivers who through ' force of habbit' keep to the right, especially the regular or older drivers, there is no intent, it' just a lapse, none of us are perfect .. except one or two hysterical abusers above.
[quote][p][bold]mechanic7[/bold] wrote: Linton68 says he switched into the East Hill lane and did not turn into Queen St. This means he was IN the Bus Lane which in itself is the offence.[/p][/quote]Youre absolutely right mechanic7, but the point i am trying to make is... The bus lane regulation only came into force in October, there must be many drivers who through ' force of habbit' keep to the right, especially the regular or older drivers, there is no intent, it' just a lapse, none of us are perfect .. except one or two hysterical abusers above. linton68
  • Score: 4

10:24am Sat 4 Jan 14

Gladiator of Colchester says...

When the bus lanes changed on the second car ban, the signage had not been installed in some places, others it placed incorrectly so that you cant read (bearing in mind you would not have enough time to red all the text whilst driving) until you are committed to the lane and with no prior warning sign, some signs were covered, the road markings in some places had not been changed. I got one ticket because I could not avoid the turn after being committed by misdirection and inadequate signage !!!!!

**** am I 'TheBrotherhoodOfThe
Bell' ?????? LOL !!!!! Loved reading your text !!!!
When the bus lanes changed on the second car ban, the signage had not been installed in some places, others it placed incorrectly so that you cant read (bearing in mind you would not have enough time to red all the text whilst driving) until you are committed to the lane and with no prior warning sign, some signs were covered, the road markings in some places had not been changed. I got one ticket because I could not avoid the turn after being committed by misdirection and inadequate signage !!!!! **** am I 'TheBrotherhoodOfThe Bell' ?????? LOL !!!!! Loved reading your text !!!! Gladiator of Colchester
  • Score: 2

10:25am Sat 4 Jan 14

Gladiator of Colchester says...

Love the way they edit these LOL !
Love the way they edit these LOL ! Gladiator of Colchester
  • Score: 0

1:59pm Sat 4 Jan 14

blockpaver says...

Motorists always moan when an infringement of the law costs them money: parking in restricted areas; entering bus lanes; or whatever. They always drag out the old complaint that City Hall is using fines to bolster income. To complain about lack of clarity is nonsense, which of the words “BUS LANE” don’t they understand? Get over it.
Motorists always moan when an infringement of the law costs them money: parking in restricted areas; entering bus lanes; or whatever. They always drag out the old complaint that City Hall is using fines to bolster income. To complain about lack of clarity is nonsense, which of the words “BUS LANE” don’t they understand? Get over it. blockpaver
  • Score: 2

9:13am Sun 5 Jan 14

Red Tape 2 says...

Anyone know if you can turn into High Street from Head Street? I thought you could but the bus lane is still marked there!
Anyone know if you can turn into High Street from Head Street? I thought you could but the bus lane is still marked there! Red Tape 2
  • Score: 0

9:17am Sun 5 Jan 14

Red Tape 2 says...

If the signs aren't clear enough, don't give enough notice or are too easily obstructed then don't pay - take it to court! If so many people are being caught out there is obviously something wrong and if a court agrees they will have to refund all these fines.
If the signs aren't clear enough, don't give enough notice or are too easily obstructed then don't pay - take it to court! If so many people are being caught out there is obviously something wrong and if a court agrees they will have to refund all these fines. Red Tape 2
  • Score: 2

9:21am Sun 5 Jan 14

Gladiator of Colchester says...

Red Tape 2 wrote:
Anyone know if you can turn into High Street from Head Street? I thought you could but the bus lane is still marked there!
Good question, I don't bother driving through town now, in fact unless I am visiting I don't bother at all. Check out the two Facebook pages that are covering this, there is great debate about all this confusion, it was worse when they just started again with 'car ban 2', they still haven't got the signage sorted, anyone who is not aware can still be caught out. Loving some of the comments on here, clearly based on uniformed supposition !!
[quote][p][bold]Red Tape 2[/bold] wrote: Anyone know if you can turn into High Street from Head Street? I thought you could but the bus lane is still marked there![/p][/quote]Good question, I don't bother driving through town now, in fact unless I am visiting I don't bother at all. Check out the two Facebook pages that are covering this, there is great debate about all this confusion, it was worse when they just started again with 'car ban 2', they still haven't got the signage sorted, anyone who is not aware can still be caught out. Loving some of the comments on here, clearly based on uniformed supposition !! Gladiator of Colchester
  • Score: 0

11:35am Sun 5 Jan 14

Checkout says...

Bell End may be a little more apposite than TheBrotherhoodOfTheB
ell JFF old thing..
Bell End may be a little more apposite than TheBrotherhoodOfTheB ell JFF old thing.. Checkout
  • Score: 2

1:06am Tue 7 Jan 14

Assimilation says...

SiBeard wrote:
Do you not think that by issuing an estimated 2,500 tickets in around 2 months (40 a day) shows that the new initiative hasn’t been publicised widely enough?

my issue is the lanes were put in then rapidly closed... once they were reopened the signs didn’t seem to obviously change. I, along with many other residents, have driven down the high street to queen street 4 or 5 times a week every week since the failed bus lane experiment stopped in April. To my mind and to many others the changes made to warn us that they had reopened were not sufficient enough.

if I have parked illegally, or been caught littering or speeding I will pay the fine. It’s a fair cop guv, I’m in the wrong. in this case i feel there is too much in question. people I know now have 6, 7, 8 fines coming though. this can’t be right can it? it feels like we are being mugged.
How many fines does it take to learn to keep out of bus lanes? I would have thought that when one or maybe two fines drop through your letter box you would get the message, but it seems not. They should start putting points on your licence like they do with speeding, you learn quickly or you loose your licence. Sorted
[quote][p][bold]SiBeard[/bold] wrote: Do you not think that by issuing an estimated 2,500 tickets in around 2 months (40 a day) shows that the new initiative hasn’t been publicised widely enough? my issue is the lanes were put in then rapidly closed... once they were reopened the signs didn’t seem to obviously change. I, along with many other residents, have driven down the high street to queen street 4 or 5 times a week every week since the failed bus lane experiment stopped in April. To my mind and to many others the changes made to warn us that they had reopened were not sufficient enough. if I have parked illegally, or been caught littering or speeding I will pay the fine. It’s a fair cop guv, I’m in the wrong. in this case i feel there is too much in question. people I know now have 6, 7, 8 fines coming though. this can’t be right can it? it feels like we are being mugged.[/p][/quote]How many fines does it take to learn to keep out of bus lanes? I would have thought that when one or maybe two fines drop through your letter box you would get the message, but it seems not. They should start putting points on your licence like they do with speeding, you learn quickly or you loose your licence. Sorted Assimilation
  • Score: -2

7:02am Tue 7 Jan 14

Planning rebel says...

Assimilation wrote:
SiBeard wrote:
Do you not think that by issuing an estimated 2,500 tickets in around 2 months (40 a day) shows that the new initiative hasn’t been publicised widely enough?

my issue is the lanes were put in then rapidly closed... once they were reopened the signs didn’t seem to obviously change. I, along with many other residents, have driven down the high street to queen street 4 or 5 times a week every week since the failed bus lane experiment stopped in April. To my mind and to many others the changes made to warn us that they had reopened were not sufficient enough.

if I have parked illegally, or been caught littering or speeding I will pay the fine. It’s a fair cop guv, I’m in the wrong. in this case i feel there is too much in question. people I know now have 6, 7, 8 fines coming though. this can’t be right can it? it feels like we are being mugged.
How many fines does it take to learn to keep out of bus lanes? I would have thought that when one or maybe two fines drop through your letter box you would get the message, but it seems not. They should start putting points on your licence like they do with speeding, you learn quickly or you loose your licence. Sorted
@assimilation. If ECC were sending out the fines in a timely manner then people wouldn't be reoffending time after time. It's not a case of 'I've received a penalty notice but bugger it I'll do it again'. People are genuinely not realising these bus lanes are in force until 3 weeks or so later when fines are dropping through their letter boxes. During that time they've driven the same route several times. I'm fortunate that mine was a one off offence as I very rarely drive through town.
[quote][p][bold]Assimilation[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SiBeard[/bold] wrote: Do you not think that by issuing an estimated 2,500 tickets in around 2 months (40 a day) shows that the new initiative hasn’t been publicised widely enough? my issue is the lanes were put in then rapidly closed... once they were reopened the signs didn’t seem to obviously change. I, along with many other residents, have driven down the high street to queen street 4 or 5 times a week every week since the failed bus lane experiment stopped in April. To my mind and to many others the changes made to warn us that they had reopened were not sufficient enough. if I have parked illegally, or been caught littering or speeding I will pay the fine. It’s a fair cop guv, I’m in the wrong. in this case i feel there is too much in question. people I know now have 6, 7, 8 fines coming though. this can’t be right can it? it feels like we are being mugged.[/p][/quote]How many fines does it take to learn to keep out of bus lanes? I would have thought that when one or maybe two fines drop through your letter box you would get the message, but it seems not. They should start putting points on your licence like they do with speeding, you learn quickly or you loose your licence. Sorted[/p][/quote]@assimilation. If ECC were sending out the fines in a timely manner then people wouldn't be reoffending time after time. It's not a case of 'I've received a penalty notice but bugger it I'll do it again'. People are genuinely not realising these bus lanes are in force until 3 weeks or so later when fines are dropping through their letter boxes. During that time they've driven the same route several times. I'm fortunate that mine was a one off offence as I very rarely drive through town. Planning rebel
  • Score: 2

8:02am Tue 7 Jan 14

A Very Private Gentleman says...

There is a very large white THICK Line in the road rather like some of the drivers in the town.

That means Bus Lane of sorts sign posts or not where there is a THICK line you do not go in it...

Is that ok for the THICKO's to understand ....Pay the fines please and shut up
Most of you youngsters are getting cheap mortgages on the backs of our savings

I was paying 16% back in 1991....

A small fine of £30 or so is small spuds to what you are saving now, personally there should be camera's all over the place nicking the lot of you for breathing and chewing gum...

Grow up Mor*ns and pay the bloody money?
There is a very large white THICK Line in the road rather like some of the drivers in the town. That means Bus Lane of sorts sign posts or not where there is a THICK line you do not go in it... Is that ok for the THICKO's to understand ....Pay the fines please and shut up Most of you youngsters are getting cheap mortgages on the backs of our savings I was paying 16% back in 1991.... A small fine of £30 or so is small spuds to what you are saving now, personally there should be camera's all over the place nicking the lot of you for breathing and chewing gum... Grow up Mor*ns and pay the bloody money? A Very Private Gentleman
  • Score: -7

8:48am Tue 7 Jan 14

Gladiator of Colchester says...

THERE ARE SOME VERY ILL INFORMED PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL FAILING TO GRASP THE THE LEGAL ASPECT OF INADEQUATE AND POORLY PLACED SIGNAGE STATING THAT BUS LANES ARE OR ARE NOT IN USE GOING BACK PRIOR TO THE PREVIOUS FARCICAL CAR BAN AFTER WHICH THEY WHERE NOT REMOVED AND SIMPLY NO ENTRY SIGNS, THIS ISSUE ONLY CAME TO LIGHT WHEN THE COUNCIL INSTALLED A CAMERA TO RECORD OFFENDERS RATHER THAN ADDRESS THE ROUTE CAUSE AS TO WHY THEY CONTINUED TO FOLLOW THE ROUTE. THIS IN ADDITION TO MISINFORMATION AND FAILURE TO ADVISE CHANGE OF PRIORITY OR USE IN GOOD TIME PRIOR TO A JUNCTION BEFORE THE VEHICLES ARE COMMITTED TO THAT JUNCTION. THIS OBVIOUSLY INCLUDES REMOVING COVERS FROM SIGNS SO THAT THEY COULD BE SEEN.

YOUNG UNEDUCATED THICKO AND MORON SIGNING OFF !!!!! ALSO NOT PAYING THE MONEY....OR HAVING CHEAP MORTGAGE ON THE BACK OF OLD PEOPLES SAVINGS LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!
THERE ARE SOME VERY ILL INFORMED PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL FAILING TO GRASP THE THE LEGAL ASPECT OF INADEQUATE AND POORLY PLACED SIGNAGE STATING THAT BUS LANES ARE OR ARE NOT IN USE GOING BACK PRIOR TO THE PREVIOUS FARCICAL CAR BAN AFTER WHICH THEY WHERE NOT REMOVED AND SIMPLY NO ENTRY SIGNS, THIS ISSUE ONLY CAME TO LIGHT WHEN THE COUNCIL INSTALLED A CAMERA TO RECORD OFFENDERS RATHER THAN ADDRESS THE ROUTE CAUSE AS TO WHY THEY CONTINUED TO FOLLOW THE ROUTE. THIS IN ADDITION TO MISINFORMATION AND FAILURE TO ADVISE CHANGE OF PRIORITY OR USE IN GOOD TIME PRIOR TO A JUNCTION BEFORE THE VEHICLES ARE COMMITTED TO THAT JUNCTION. THIS OBVIOUSLY INCLUDES REMOVING COVERS FROM SIGNS SO THAT THEY COULD BE SEEN. YOUNG UNEDUCATED THICKO AND MORON SIGNING OFF !!!!! ALSO NOT PAYING THE MONEY....OR HAVING CHEAP MORTGAGE ON THE BACK OF OLD PEOPLES SAVINGS LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!! Gladiator of Colchester
  • Score: 0

9:31am Tue 7 Jan 14

Planning rebel says...

What planet are you living on "A Very Private Gentleman" and who are you to judge how intelligent, well educated or even how old we are?

From your bigoted response above I believe you to be one of those mean old people who bemoan "youngsters" whilst showing no respect to others. I suppose you probably don't even drive any more because you've qualified for your bus pass and don't need to? Well good for you! Whilst the rest of us have to go out and earn money to survive because governments of "your time" have ruined the country, you can sit in the only room that you can afford to heat because your stash of savings aren't earning you any interest... Not true about you? Then why should you assume that we're uneducated and stupid? How funny that you think that we deserve to pay out money because we've got cheap mortgages?

As I've said before, had there been proper signage at the correct distances I would have been able to change lane and avoid a fine, BUT when you're following anything bigger than a van in the right hand lane, the signs are obscured and it's too late. The bus lane itself doesn't comply to the guidelines set out, it's not wide enough, the taper isn't correct, signs should begin 30M before the bus lane does..... Even if you drive into it and then change lanes it's too late... you're fined.

This is down to ECC & CBC incompetence. That's all there is to it!

So there you go Grandad, what are you going to criticise next? The cost of a loaf of bread? Is that our fault too?
What planet are you living on "A Very Private Gentleman" and who are you to judge how intelligent, well educated or even how old we are? From your bigoted response above I believe you to be one of those mean old people who bemoan "youngsters" whilst showing no respect to others. I suppose you probably don't even drive any more because you've qualified for your bus pass and don't need to? Well good for you! Whilst the rest of us have to go out and earn money to survive because governments of "your time" have ruined the country, you can sit in the only room that you can afford to heat because your stash of savings aren't earning you any interest... Not true about you? Then why should you assume that we're uneducated and stupid? How funny that you think that we deserve to pay out money because we've got cheap mortgages? As I've said before, had there been proper signage at the correct distances I would have been able to change lane and avoid a fine, BUT when you're following anything bigger than a van in the right hand lane, the signs are obscured and it's too late. The bus lane itself doesn't comply to the guidelines set out, it's not wide enough, the taper isn't correct, signs should begin 30M before the bus lane does..... Even if you drive into it and then change lanes it's too late... you're fined. This is down to ECC & CBC incompetence. That's all there is to it! So there you go Grandad, what are you going to criticise next? The cost of a loaf of bread? Is that our fault too? Planning rebel
  • Score: 2

9:55am Tue 7 Jan 14

Gladiator of Colchester says...

Planning rebel wrote:
What planet are you living on "A Very Private Gentleman" and who are you to judge how intelligent, well educated or even how old we are?

From your bigoted response above I believe you to be one of those mean old people who bemoan "youngsters" whilst showing no respect to others. I suppose you probably don't even drive any more because you've qualified for your bus pass and don't need to? Well good for you! Whilst the rest of us have to go out and earn money to survive because governments of "your time" have ruined the country, you can sit in the only room that you can afford to heat because your stash of savings aren't earning you any interest... Not true about you? Then why should you assume that we're uneducated and stupid? How funny that you think that we deserve to pay out money because we've got cheap mortgages?

As I've said before, had there been proper signage at the correct distances I would have been able to change lane and avoid a fine, BUT when you're following anything bigger than a van in the right hand lane, the signs are obscured and it's too late. The bus lane itself doesn't comply to the guidelines set out, it's not wide enough, the taper isn't correct, signs should begin 30M before the bus lane does..... Even if you drive into it and then change lanes it's too late... you're fined.

This is down to ECC & CBC incompetence. That's all there is to it!

So there you go Grandad, what are you going to criticise next? The cost of a loaf of bread? Is that our fault too?
Love it !!!!!!! I thought that I was the only one !!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Planning rebel[/bold] wrote: What planet are you living on "A Very Private Gentleman" and who are you to judge how intelligent, well educated or even how old we are? From your bigoted response above I believe you to be one of those mean old people who bemoan "youngsters" whilst showing no respect to others. I suppose you probably don't even drive any more because you've qualified for your bus pass and don't need to? Well good for you! Whilst the rest of us have to go out and earn money to survive because governments of "your time" have ruined the country, you can sit in the only room that you can afford to heat because your stash of savings aren't earning you any interest... Not true about you? Then why should you assume that we're uneducated and stupid? How funny that you think that we deserve to pay out money because we've got cheap mortgages? As I've said before, had there been proper signage at the correct distances I would have been able to change lane and avoid a fine, BUT when you're following anything bigger than a van in the right hand lane, the signs are obscured and it's too late. The bus lane itself doesn't comply to the guidelines set out, it's not wide enough, the taper isn't correct, signs should begin 30M before the bus lane does..... Even if you drive into it and then change lanes it's too late... you're fined. This is down to ECC & CBC incompetence. That's all there is to it! So there you go Grandad, what are you going to criticise next? The cost of a loaf of bread? Is that our fault too?[/p][/quote]Love it !!!!!!! I thought that I was the only one !!!!!!!! Gladiator of Colchester
  • Score: 0

9:59am Tue 7 Jan 14

wormshero says...

A Very Private Gentleman wrote:
There is a very large white THICK Line in the road rather like some of the drivers in the town.

That means Bus Lane of sorts sign posts or not where there is a THICK line you do not go in it...

Is that ok for the THICKO's to understand ....Pay the fines please and shut up
Most of you youngsters are getting cheap mortgages on the backs of our savings

I was paying 16% back in 1991....

A small fine of £30 or so is small spuds to what you are saving now, personally there should be camera's all over the place nicking the lot of you for breathing and chewing gum...

Grow up Mor*ns and pay the bloody money?
Genuinely not sure why you're talking about mortgage prices in a news article about bus lane fines, but it's all relative, isn't it? House prices are up to 160% higher than they were in 1991, so while there may be better rates at the moment the price you're paying is so much higher. I know what I'd choose, personally. Not to mention that due to older people living longer these days the amount they contribute during their lifetimes isn't as high as you'd need to make pension payments etc, the current generation are subsidising the older one.
[quote][p][bold]A Very Private Gentleman[/bold] wrote: There is a very large white THICK Line in the road rather like some of the drivers in the town. That means Bus Lane of sorts sign posts or not where there is a THICK line you do not go in it... Is that ok for the THICKO's to understand ....Pay the fines please and shut up Most of you youngsters are getting cheap mortgages on the backs of our savings I was paying 16% back in 1991.... A small fine of £30 or so is small spuds to what you are saving now, personally there should be camera's all over the place nicking the lot of you for breathing and chewing gum... Grow up Mor*ns and pay the bloody money?[/p][/quote]Genuinely not sure why you're talking about mortgage prices in a news article about bus lane fines, but it's all relative, isn't it? House prices are up to 160% higher than they were in 1991, so while there may be better rates at the moment the price you're paying is so much higher. I know what I'd choose, personally. Not to mention that due to older people living longer these days the amount they contribute during their lifetimes isn't as high as you'd need to make pension payments etc, the current generation are subsidising the older one. wormshero
  • Score: 2

9:59am Tue 7 Jan 14

shrubender1 says...

I question whether these drivers are fit to use the road, surely part of the driving test is to know the highway code, follow road signs/lane discipline.
Are these the same drivers who hold up traffic on Southway by being in the wrong lane, or take the wrong route to enter/exit roundabouts. Maybe they could not see the road markings, because their mobile phone was wedged in their chin. Open your eyes, be proactive, the road/street signs are clear, there is no excuse, enjoy giving your money away!!
I question whether these drivers are fit to use the road, surely part of the driving test is to know the highway code, follow road signs/lane discipline. Are these the same drivers who hold up traffic on Southway by being in the wrong lane, or take the wrong route to enter/exit roundabouts. Maybe they could not see the road markings, because their mobile phone was wedged in their chin. Open your eyes, be proactive, the road/street signs are clear, there is no excuse, enjoy giving your money away!! shrubender1
  • Score: -3

10:10am Tue 7 Jan 14

Planning rebel says...

shrubender1 wrote:
I question whether these drivers are fit to use the road, surely part of the driving test is to know the highway code, follow road signs/lane discipline.
Are these the same drivers who hold up traffic on Southway by being in the wrong lane, or take the wrong route to enter/exit roundabouts. Maybe they could not see the road markings, because their mobile phone was wedged in their chin. Open your eyes, be proactive, the road/street signs are clear, there is no excuse, enjoy giving your money away!!
My eyes were fully open believe me... I've been driving for 25 years and have never received a fine... until now! My "offence" occurred just after 10pm, during heavy rain. I've watched the video clip of my offence, and I follow a bus in to the bus lane... funny eh? But because of the insufficient signage, (there is 1 sign JUST as you enter the bus lane - too late by then) and the bus obscured the signs - on the road and by the roadside. So what should I have done?
And no, I don't cut people up, use my mobile phone whilst driving, or get in the wrong lane. That's why there's such an uproar about this.

And perhaps when you create your next user name you need to think about it a bit more..... shrub ender...... = bender..... too funny!
[quote][p][bold]shrubender1[/bold] wrote: I question whether these drivers are fit to use the road, surely part of the driving test is to know the highway code, follow road signs/lane discipline. Are these the same drivers who hold up traffic on Southway by being in the wrong lane, or take the wrong route to enter/exit roundabouts. Maybe they could not see the road markings, because their mobile phone was wedged in their chin. Open your eyes, be proactive, the road/street signs are clear, there is no excuse, enjoy giving your money away!![/p][/quote]My eyes were fully open believe me... I've been driving for 25 years and have never received a fine... until now! My "offence" occurred just after 10pm, during heavy rain. I've watched the video clip of my offence, and I follow a bus in to the bus lane... funny eh? But because of the insufficient signage, (there is 1 sign JUST as you enter the bus lane - too late by then) and the bus obscured the signs - on the road and by the roadside. So what should I have done? And no, I don't cut people up, use my mobile phone whilst driving, or get in the wrong lane. That's why there's such an uproar about this. And perhaps when you create your next user name you need to think about it a bit more..... shrub ender...... = bender..... too funny! Planning rebel
  • Score: 1

10:13am Tue 7 Jan 14

Gladiator of Colchester says...

I rarely comment on here (except for this article obviously) but I am loving some of these comments It certainly highlights how squeaky clean our Colchester residents consider themselves and are willing to cast stones and indeed probably rocks at those who they know nothing about for a reason that they do not, nor presumably could not comprehend based on an article that they think covered the full facts from a headline in the local paper who do not always present all the facts as they are such as the photograph at the top of this page clearly taken recently showing signs that should have been installed at the start !!!!
I rarely comment on here (except for this article obviously) but I am loving some of these comments It certainly highlights how squeaky clean our Colchester residents consider themselves and are willing to cast stones and indeed probably rocks at those who they know nothing about for a reason that they do not, nor presumably could not comprehend based on an article that they think covered the full facts from a headline in the local paper who do not always present all the facts as they are such as the photograph at the top of this page clearly taken recently showing signs that should have been installed at the start !!!! Gladiator of Colchester
  • Score: 0

10:23am Tue 7 Jan 14

Red Tape 2 says...

Planning rebel wrote:
shrubender1 wrote:
I question whether these drivers are fit to use the road, surely part of the driving test is to know the highway code, follow road signs/lane discipline.
Are these the same drivers who hold up traffic on Southway by being in the wrong lane, or take the wrong route to enter/exit roundabouts. Maybe they could not see the road markings, because their mobile phone was wedged in their chin. Open your eyes, be proactive, the road/street signs are clear, there is no excuse, enjoy giving your money away!!
My eyes were fully open believe me... I've been driving for 25 years and have never received a fine... until now! My "offence" occurred just after 10pm, during heavy rain. I've watched the video clip of my offence, and I follow a bus in to the bus lane... funny eh? But because of the insufficient signage, (there is 1 sign JUST as you enter the bus lane - too late by then) and the bus obscured the signs - on the road and by the roadside. So what should I have done?
And no, I don't cut people up, use my mobile phone whilst driving, or get in the wrong lane. That's why there's such an uproar about this.

And perhaps when you create your next user name you need to think about it a bit more..... shrub ender...... = bender..... too funny!
Don't pay appeal and take it to court. Until someone does nothing is going to change. I'm 90% sure they won't want it to go to court as they know they'll lose....
[quote][p][bold]Planning rebel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shrubender1[/bold] wrote: I question whether these drivers are fit to use the road, surely part of the driving test is to know the highway code, follow road signs/lane discipline. Are these the same drivers who hold up traffic on Southway by being in the wrong lane, or take the wrong route to enter/exit roundabouts. Maybe they could not see the road markings, because their mobile phone was wedged in their chin. Open your eyes, be proactive, the road/street signs are clear, there is no excuse, enjoy giving your money away!![/p][/quote]My eyes were fully open believe me... I've been driving for 25 years and have never received a fine... until now! My "offence" occurred just after 10pm, during heavy rain. I've watched the video clip of my offence, and I follow a bus in to the bus lane... funny eh? But because of the insufficient signage, (there is 1 sign JUST as you enter the bus lane - too late by then) and the bus obscured the signs - on the road and by the roadside. So what should I have done? And no, I don't cut people up, use my mobile phone whilst driving, or get in the wrong lane. That's why there's such an uproar about this. And perhaps when you create your next user name you need to think about it a bit more..... shrub ender...... = bender..... too funny![/p][/quote]Don't pay appeal and take it to court. Until someone does nothing is going to change. I'm 90% sure they won't want it to go to court as they know they'll lose.... Red Tape 2
  • Score: 0

10:30am Tue 7 Jan 14

Planning rebel says...

Red Tape 2 wrote:
Planning rebel wrote:
shrubender1 wrote:
I question whether these drivers are fit to use the road, surely part of the driving test is to know the highway code, follow road signs/lane discipline.
Are these the same drivers who hold up traffic on Southway by being in the wrong lane, or take the wrong route to enter/exit roundabouts. Maybe they could not see the road markings, because their mobile phone was wedged in their chin. Open your eyes, be proactive, the road/street signs are clear, there is no excuse, enjoy giving your money away!!
My eyes were fully open believe me... I've been driving for 25 years and have never received a fine... until now! My "offence" occurred just after 10pm, during heavy rain. I've watched the video clip of my offence, and I follow a bus in to the bus lane... funny eh? But because of the insufficient signage, (there is 1 sign JUST as you enter the bus lane - too late by then) and the bus obscured the signs - on the road and by the roadside. So what should I have done?
And no, I don't cut people up, use my mobile phone whilst driving, or get in the wrong lane. That's why there's such an uproar about this.

And perhaps when you create your next user name you need to think about it a bit more..... shrub ender...... = bender..... too funny!
Don't pay appeal and take it to court. Until someone does nothing is going to change. I'm 90% sure they won't want it to go to court as they know they'll lose....
There are a few that have paid, but most of us (judging by the FB pages set up for this) have responded online with our "responses" quoting the relevan legislation to back us up. This freezes the fine at it's present rate until it's settled or goes to court I suppose.

It's great that so many are sticking together... at the end of the day it's people power that'll get these things changed.
[quote][p][bold]Red Tape 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Planning rebel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shrubender1[/bold] wrote: I question whether these drivers are fit to use the road, surely part of the driving test is to know the highway code, follow road signs/lane discipline. Are these the same drivers who hold up traffic on Southway by being in the wrong lane, or take the wrong route to enter/exit roundabouts. Maybe they could not see the road markings, because their mobile phone was wedged in their chin. Open your eyes, be proactive, the road/street signs are clear, there is no excuse, enjoy giving your money away!![/p][/quote]My eyes were fully open believe me... I've been driving for 25 years and have never received a fine... until now! My "offence" occurred just after 10pm, during heavy rain. I've watched the video clip of my offence, and I follow a bus in to the bus lane... funny eh? But because of the insufficient signage, (there is 1 sign JUST as you enter the bus lane - too late by then) and the bus obscured the signs - on the road and by the roadside. So what should I have done? And no, I don't cut people up, use my mobile phone whilst driving, or get in the wrong lane. That's why there's such an uproar about this. And perhaps when you create your next user name you need to think about it a bit more..... shrub ender...... = bender..... too funny![/p][/quote]Don't pay appeal and take it to court. Until someone does nothing is going to change. I'm 90% sure they won't want it to go to court as they know they'll lose....[/p][/quote]There are a few that have paid, but most of us (judging by the FB pages set up for this) have responded online with our "responses" quoting the relevan legislation to back us up. This freezes the fine at it's present rate until it's settled or goes to court I suppose. It's great that so many are sticking together... at the end of the day it's people power that'll get these things changed. Planning rebel
  • Score: 2

6:17pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Jess Jephcott says...

It all looks clear enough to me. But what irritates me is why I have to go down Queen Street to get to the Priory Street car park. Why on earth isn't the traffic flow reversed along Priory Street, thus reducing traffic through Queen Street and the town generally?
It all looks clear enough to me. But what irritates me is why I have to go down Queen Street to get to the Priory Street car park. Why on earth isn't the traffic flow reversed along Priory Street, thus reducing traffic through Queen Street and the town generally? Jess Jephcott
  • Score: 0

7:54pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Planning rebel says...

The great news is (& two fingers up to all you old **** who were insistent that all of us should pay).... We won't have to! It will be announced tomorrow that the bus lanes are suspended and all fines will be revoked... So, ner ner ne ner ner !
The great news is (& two fingers up to all you old **** who were insistent that all of us should pay).... We won't have to! It will be announced tomorrow that the bus lanes are suspended and all fines will be revoked... So, ner ner ne ner ner ! Planning rebel
  • Score: 1

12:38am Wed 8 Jan 14

Assimilation says...

Planning rebel wrote:
shrubender1 wrote:
I question whether these drivers are fit to use the road, surely part of the driving test is to know the highway code, follow road signs/lane discipline.
Are these the same drivers who hold up traffic on Southway by being in the wrong lane, or take the wrong route to enter/exit roundabouts. Maybe they could not see the road markings, because their mobile phone was wedged in their chin. Open your eyes, be proactive, the road/street signs are clear, there is no excuse, enjoy giving your money away!!
My eyes were fully open believe me... I've been driving for 25 years and have never received a fine... until now! My "offence" occurred just after 10pm, during heavy rain. I've watched the video clip of my offence, and I follow a bus in to the bus lane... funny eh? But because of the insufficient signage, (there is 1 sign JUST as you enter the bus lane - too late by then) and the bus obscured the signs - on the road and by the roadside. So what should I have done?
And no, I don't cut people up, use my mobile phone whilst driving, or get in the wrong lane. That's why there's such an uproar about this.

And perhaps when you create your next user name you need to think about it a bit more..... shrub ender...... = bender..... too funny!
But you do get in the wrong lane, you have a fine to prove it Hahaha
[quote][p][bold]Planning rebel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shrubender1[/bold] wrote: I question whether these drivers are fit to use the road, surely part of the driving test is to know the highway code, follow road signs/lane discipline. Are these the same drivers who hold up traffic on Southway by being in the wrong lane, or take the wrong route to enter/exit roundabouts. Maybe they could not see the road markings, because their mobile phone was wedged in their chin. Open your eyes, be proactive, the road/street signs are clear, there is no excuse, enjoy giving your money away!![/p][/quote]My eyes were fully open believe me... I've been driving for 25 years and have never received a fine... until now! My "offence" occurred just after 10pm, during heavy rain. I've watched the video clip of my offence, and I follow a bus in to the bus lane... funny eh? But because of the insufficient signage, (there is 1 sign JUST as you enter the bus lane - too late by then) and the bus obscured the signs - on the road and by the roadside. So what should I have done? And no, I don't cut people up, use my mobile phone whilst driving, or get in the wrong lane. That's why there's such an uproar about this. And perhaps when you create your next user name you need to think about it a bit more..... shrub ender...... = bender..... too funny![/p][/quote]But you do get in the wrong lane, you have a fine to prove it Hahaha Assimilation
  • Score: 0

1:09am Wed 8 Jan 14

Assimilation says...

I cant believe the people of Colchester, do you not read your local paper to see what is going on in the town and the changes that are made? It seems that you are all so very complacent. I have been doing this or that for the last 30/40 years man and boy, so why should I change now? It`s always the locals that are at fault. Take the newly opened Berechurch Road, It is now mostly 30 mph but traffic still goes along it at plus 40 and the ones that turn into the Army Estate do not reduce their speed to the 20 mph which covers the whole Estate, and the main offenders are the people that live there, same cars every day. If there was a speed camera put there you can bet that they would be the ones that would complain, like what is happening now about the bus lanes. You know there is a bus lane there, keep out of it, dont drive in the right hand lane or you will pay the price, and quite rightly too.
I cant believe the people of Colchester, do you not read your local paper to see what is going on in the town and the changes that are made? It seems that you are all so very complacent. I have been doing this or that for the last 30/40 years man and boy, so why should I change now? It`s always the locals that are at fault. Take the newly opened Berechurch Road, It is now mostly 30 mph but traffic still goes along it at plus 40 and the ones that turn into the Army Estate do not reduce their speed to the 20 mph which covers the whole Estate, and the main offenders are the people that live there, same cars every day. If there was a speed camera put there you can bet that they would be the ones that would complain, like what is happening now about the bus lanes. You know there is a bus lane there, keep out of it, dont drive in the right hand lane or you will pay the price, and quite rightly too. Assimilation
  • Score: 0

10:43am Wed 8 Jan 14

hitecvibes says...

Interesting comments here, I suggest some people have a read through this link

http://assets.dft.go
v.uk/publications/tr
affic-signs-manual/t
raffic-signs-manual-
chapter-03.pdf

Pay particular attention to Chapter 3, section 15.9.

The bus lanes are illegal as they don't confirm to the law as stated above.

And there it is in black and white - a fully legal way to contest the fines.

For starters, the bus lane heading into Queen Street has the first sign in the bus lane - tut tut!
Interesting comments here, I suggest some people have a read through this link http://assets.dft.go v.uk/publications/tr affic-signs-manual/t raffic-signs-manual- chapter-03.pdf Pay particular attention to Chapter 3, section 15.9. The bus lanes are illegal as they don't confirm to the law as stated above. And there it is in black and white - a fully legal way to contest the fines. For starters, the bus lane heading into Queen Street has the first sign in the bus lane - tut tut! hitecvibes
  • Score: 7

10:44am Wed 8 Jan 14

hitecvibes says...

Also looks like Sir Bob Russell is on the case as well!

http://bobrussell.or
g.uk/en/article/2014
/756501/sir-bob-call
s-for-an-end-to-colc
hester-s-bus-lane-co
nfusion
Also looks like Sir Bob Russell is on the case as well! http://bobrussell.or g.uk/en/article/2014 /756501/sir-bob-call s-for-an-end-to-colc hester-s-bus-lane-co nfusion hitecvibes
  • Score: 8

11:19am Wed 8 Jan 14

Planning rebel says...

Assimilation wrote:
I cant believe the people of Colchester, do you not read your local paper to see what is going on in the town and the changes that are made? It seems that you are all so very complacent. I have been doing this or that for the last 30/40 years man and boy, so why should I change now? It`s always the locals that are at fault. Take the newly opened Berechurch Road, It is now mostly 30 mph but traffic still goes along it at plus 40 and the ones that turn into the Army Estate do not reduce their speed to the 20 mph which covers the whole Estate, and the main offenders are the people that live there, same cars every day. If there was a speed camera put there you can bet that they would be the ones that would complain, like what is happening now about the bus lanes. You know there is a bus lane there, keep out of it, dont drive in the right hand lane or you will pay the price, and quite rightly too.
Oh my goodness Assimilation.... what part of this do you not understand? The bus lanes were illegal.... it's pretty much fraud! Yes, markings are there, signs are there, but they are not correctly installed at the correct distances.

Bully for you if you read your local paper from cover to cover. Personally I don't buy a local paper... I don't live in Colchester... am I expected to buy a local paper for every area I drive in?

Had the signs been at the correct spacing (30m before the bus lane begins rather than at the start of it) then we may have had a chance to change lanes before it was too late... as we've already heard, just driving in and then changing lane still incurred a fine.

Right, this is the last post from me on this subject.... I think we've established that there are a lot of "set in their ways" people who aren't willing to see another side of a story. Good luck to you in your perfect world, hope you don't get fined for a traffic infringement when you're out on your mobility scooters!
[quote][p][bold]Assimilation[/bold] wrote: I cant believe the people of Colchester, do you not read your local paper to see what is going on in the town and the changes that are made? It seems that you are all so very complacent. I have been doing this or that for the last 30/40 years man and boy, so why should I change now? It`s always the locals that are at fault. Take the newly opened Berechurch Road, It is now mostly 30 mph but traffic still goes along it at plus 40 and the ones that turn into the Army Estate do not reduce their speed to the 20 mph which covers the whole Estate, and the main offenders are the people that live there, same cars every day. If there was a speed camera put there you can bet that they would be the ones that would complain, like what is happening now about the bus lanes. You know there is a bus lane there, keep out of it, dont drive in the right hand lane or you will pay the price, and quite rightly too.[/p][/quote]Oh my goodness Assimilation.... what part of this do you not understand? The bus lanes were illegal.... it's pretty much fraud! Yes, markings are there, signs are there, but they are not correctly installed at the correct distances. Bully for you if you read your local paper from cover to cover. Personally I don't buy a local paper... I don't live in Colchester... am I expected to buy a local paper for every area I drive in? Had the signs been at the correct spacing (30m before the bus lane begins rather than at the start of it) then we may have had a chance to change lanes before it was too late... as we've already heard, just driving in and then changing lane still incurred a fine. Right, this is the last post from me on this subject.... I think we've established that there are a lot of "set in their ways" people who aren't willing to see another side of a story. Good luck to you in your perfect world, hope you don't get fined for a traffic infringement when you're out on your mobility scooters! Planning rebel
  • Score: 2

1:12pm Wed 8 Jan 14

ecc tax payer says...

I got issued a Bus Lane infringment notice after the police closed Balkerne Hill and told me to "go the other way".

Why do CBC think its a good idea to add to congestion by having a Bus Lane up North Hill (with no buses in) whilst at the same time increasing traffic up Balkene Hill, and into Head Streed (where there are a lot of buses!) Most towns try and keep the traffic moving - but not good old Colchester
I got issued a Bus Lane infringment notice after the police closed Balkerne Hill and told me to "go the other way". Why do CBC think its a good idea to add to congestion by having a Bus Lane up North Hill (with no buses in) whilst at the same time increasing traffic up Balkene Hill, and into Head Streed (where there are a lot of buses!) Most towns try and keep the traffic moving - but not good old Colchester ecc tax payer
  • Score: 3

8:17pm Wed 8 Jan 14

25414nora says...

Planning rebel wrote:
The great news is (& two fingers up to all you old **** who were insistent that all of us should pay).... We won't have to! It will be announced tomorrow that the bus lanes are suspended and all fines will be revoked... So, ner ner ne ner ner !
Just love this comment...And I would like to add my TWO FINGERS UP
to the old **** too.
[quote][p][bold]Planning rebel[/bold] wrote: The great news is (& two fingers up to all you old **** who were insistent that all of us should pay).... We won't have to! It will be announced tomorrow that the bus lanes are suspended and all fines will be revoked... So, ner ner ne ner ner ![/p][/quote]Just love this comment...And I would like to add my TWO FINGERS UP to the old **** too. 25414nora
  • Score: 2

10:32pm Wed 8 Jan 14

dog man says...

A Very Private Gentleman wrote:
There is a very large white THICK Line in the road rather like some of the drivers in the town.

That means Bus Lane of sorts sign posts or not where there is a THICK line you do not go in it...

Is that ok for the THICKO's to understand ....Pay the fines please and shut up
Most of you youngsters are getting cheap mortgages on the backs of our savings

I was paying 16% back in 1991....

A small fine of £30 or so is small spuds to what you are saving now, personally there should be camera's all over the place nicking the lot of you for breathing and chewing gum...

Grow up Mor*ns and pay the bloody money?
never
[quote][p][bold]A Very Private Gentleman[/bold] wrote: There is a very large white THICK Line in the road rather like some of the drivers in the town. That means Bus Lane of sorts sign posts or not where there is a THICK line you do not go in it... Is that ok for the THICKO's to understand ....Pay the fines please and shut up Most of you youngsters are getting cheap mortgages on the backs of our savings I was paying 16% back in 1991.... A small fine of £30 or so is small spuds to what you are saving now, personally there should be camera's all over the place nicking the lot of you for breathing and chewing gum... Grow up Mor*ns and pay the bloody money?[/p][/quote]never dog man
  • Score: 0

10:32pm Wed 8 Jan 14

dog man says...

Ontheball wrote:
No sympathy whatsoever. A bus lane is what is says and not for ignorant and selfish drivers who think they own the road. Glad to see that a fixed camera is now also in place at the bottom of North Hill to catch the self same drivers who think they are immune to traffic control. Whether you like the system or not, it is not an excuse to take the p.
It would be nice if they WARN YOU BEFORE YOU GET TO THE BUS LANE SO YOU CAN AVODIE IT
[quote][p][bold]Ontheball[/bold] wrote: No sympathy whatsoever. A bus lane is what is says and not for ignorant and selfish drivers who think they own the road. Glad to see that a fixed camera is now also in place at the bottom of North Hill to catch the self same drivers who think they are immune to traffic control. Whether you like the system or not, it is not an excuse to take the p.[/p][/quote]It would be nice if they WARN YOU BEFORE YOU GET TO THE BUS LANE SO YOU CAN AVODIE IT dog man
  • Score: 1

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