I lost 23-stones but NHS won't remove my saggy skin

Gazette: I lost 23-stones but NHS won't remove my saggy skin I lost 23-stones but NHS won't remove my saggy skin

A MUM-OF-SEVEN has lost 23 stones, but is now fighting to get her saggy skin removed.

Evridiki Cruikshank, 47, has been refused funding for surgery because it is considered cosmetic rather than clinical.

Ms Cruikshank suffered depression after the death of her husband in 1999 and the stillbirth of her daughter 11 years ago.

Food “became her friend” and she ballooned to 32 stone.

In 2010, she had a £22,000 gastric bypass and within a year and a half lost 23 stones by eating only jelly.

She said: “It’s all I could eat. I had malnutrition and ended up in hospital for weeks.”

Last year, Ms Cruikshank was given a tummy tuck at Broomfield Hospital, Chelmsford, an operation lasting four hours.

However, she has now been refused funding for work to remove saggy skin from her arms and breasts even though she says it is causing her discomfort.

She said: “I have gone through hell to get this far. I’m a size 10 but I can’t show my arms and my breasts touch the floor. It’s like looking at Dot Cotton in the mirror.

“The system isn’t right. I’m suffering and I shouldn’t have to.

“Everyone thinks what I have done is amazing, yet I have to carry on fighting. They won’t fund surgery because they say it has to be done for medical reasons.

My tummy was different because it was hanging and causing a lot of pain.”

Ms Cruikshank, of John English Avenue, Braintree, who now weighs 10 stones, said many overweight people view gastric bypasses as the answer to weight loss.

She said: “You can’t go on a conveyor belt and come out looking like Madonna.”

Lisa Harrod-Rothwell, the chairman of Mid Essex Central Eastern Commissioning Support Unit, said: “I can’t comment on individual cases, but I can say that some procedures are considered of cosmetic value.

Making best use of our resources, on behalf of the 390,000 people we serve, means we can only fund procedures and treatments which meet clinical needs.

“As a local GP, I can appreciate some patients will not agree with the decisions we have to make and we are more than happy to discuss our reasons with them.

“In exceptional cases, where a clinical need can be demonstrated, the clinical commissioning group will consider funding on a case-by-case basis.”

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7:24am Fri 20 Dec 13

Buffseeds says...

Seriously ! . Why is this even news . The NHS is under enormous pressure at the moment just to provide the best care it can . Whilst I sympathise with this woman , she shouldn't rubbish a national service that can never be there for every cosmetic procedure .
Seriously ! . Why is this even news . The NHS is under enormous pressure at the moment just to provide the best care it can . Whilst I sympathise with this woman , she shouldn't rubbish a national service that can never be there for every cosmetic procedure . Buffseeds

8:32am Fri 20 Dec 13

No! I am Spartacus says...

23 stones is a great achievement- anyone that has tried to lose weight will attest to that- but I'm with the NHS. Why should it (essentially the taxpayer) have to pick up the tab for the cosmetic costs of someone that hasn't lived healthily?

It might sound harsh, but perhaps this lady saving up the money herself might be an idea?
23 stones is a great achievement- anyone that has tried to lose weight will attest to that- but I'm with the NHS. Why should it (essentially the taxpayer) have to pick up the tab for the cosmetic costs of someone that hasn't lived healthily? It might sound harsh, but perhaps this lady saving up the money herself might be an idea? No! I am Spartacus

8:42am Fri 20 Dec 13

stevedawson says...

Has she approached embarrassing bodys on tv?
Has she approached embarrassing bodys on tv? stevedawson

8:50am Fri 20 Dec 13

Madcowmac says...

Use the money you have saved not buying food yo pay for your own surgery, it was self inflicted why expect our NHS to pay
Use the money you have saved not buying food yo pay for your own surgery, it was self inflicted why expect our NHS to pay Madcowmac

9:00am Fri 20 Dec 13

The Stinker Returns says...

What has this woman contributed to the system? Sounds like she has been a constant drain on it and already had more than enough of the tax payers hard earned cash spent on her. Losing weight is in fact very easy - eat less and move more. For sure if you've got to the ridiculous size she got to then you're going to come out with saggy skin but at 47 who really cares (and I am also 47!)
What has this woman contributed to the system? Sounds like she has been a constant drain on it and already had more than enough of the tax payers hard earned cash spent on her. Losing weight is in fact very easy - eat less and move more. For sure if you've got to the ridiculous size she got to then you're going to come out with saggy skin but at 47 who really cares (and I am also 47!) The Stinker Returns

9:05am Fri 20 Dec 13

totallyfootball says...

Are you really serious, NHS is for health and care (well that's what they call it) you got yourself that way so you sort it, I have not time for someone who says food was a comfort!
Are you really serious, NHS is for health and care (well that's what they call it) you got yourself that way so you sort it, I have not time for someone who says food was a comfort! totallyfootball

9:20am Fri 20 Dec 13

Citizen 139 says...

No one forced her to put the food into her mouth. There's absolutely no sane reason why we should pay for her.
No one forced her to put the food into her mouth. There's absolutely no sane reason why we should pay for her. Citizen 139

9:41am Fri 20 Dec 13

thecapedcrusader69 says...

And the moral of the story; don't get fat in the first place.
And the moral of the story; don't get fat in the first place. thecapedcrusader69

9:45am Fri 20 Dec 13

Bralth says...

A long sleeve jumper will do the trick.
A long sleeve jumper will do the trick. Bralth

10:20am Fri 20 Dec 13

LeQueen says...

Idiot.
Idiot. LeQueen

10:26am Fri 20 Dec 13

Say It As It Is OK? says...

She said: “I have gone through hell to get this far. I’m a size 10 but my breasts touch the floor. It’s like looking at Dot Cotton in the mirror.

The mind boggles! Good job I've had my breakfast.
She said: “I have gone through hell to get this far. I’m a size 10 but my breasts touch the floor. It’s like looking at Dot Cotton in the mirror. The mind boggles! Good job I've had my breakfast. Say It As It Is OK?

10:48am Fri 20 Dec 13

chuffster says...

Buy a staple gun...
Buy a staple gun... chuffster

11:48am Fri 20 Dec 13

JustMe74 says...

Why should the NHS pay for this surgery. Save like everyone else. She is moaning about this but not sparing a thought for people alot worse off than her! Some people are SO selfish!
Why should the NHS pay for this surgery. Save like everyone else. She is moaning about this but not sparing a thought for people alot worse off than her! Some people are SO selfish! JustMe74

11:49am Fri 20 Dec 13

zt00013 says...

Buffseeds wrote:
Seriously ! . Why is this even news . The NHS is under enormous pressure at the moment just to provide the best care it can . Whilst I sympathise with this woman , she shouldn't rubbish a national service that can never be there for every cosmetic procedure .
It is not cosmetic. Her hanging skin will cause extreme discomfort and has the potential to impact negatively on her mental well-being. She has saved the NHS and her body great cost in losing the weight, which was no easy task, the NHS should fund her treatment. Her over-eating in the first place was not due to being a bone idle slob but by bereavement and depression.

Seems we have Peter Hitchens lovers in old Essex. I am the voice of reason and impervious to evidence, mental illness, no no no, it is all choice!
[quote][p][bold]Buffseeds[/bold] wrote: Seriously ! . Why is this even news . The NHS is under enormous pressure at the moment just to provide the best care it can . Whilst I sympathise with this woman , she shouldn't rubbish a national service that can never be there for every cosmetic procedure .[/p][/quote]It is not cosmetic. Her hanging skin will cause extreme discomfort and has the potential to impact negatively on her mental well-being. She has saved the NHS and her body great cost in losing the weight, which was no easy task, the NHS should fund her treatment. Her over-eating in the first place was not due to being a bone idle slob but by bereavement and depression. Seems we have Peter Hitchens lovers in old Essex. I am the voice of reason and impervious to evidence, mental illness, no no no, it is all choice! zt00013

11:59am Fri 20 Dec 13

super waluigi says...

I too feel sorry for her. Sure, she got herself into that mess, but she also has got herself out of it this far.
Who is to say that saggy bits does not give her physical pain. It might even give her emotional pain.

Put it this way, it would not be a national health service if it refused services to people based on their former habits.
I too feel sorry for her. Sure, she got herself into that mess, but she also has got herself out of it this far. Who is to say that saggy bits does not give her physical pain. It might even give her emotional pain. Put it this way, it would not be a national health service if it refused services to people based on their former habits. super waluigi

12:35pm Fri 20 Dec 13

The Stinker Returns says...

zt00013 wrote:
Buffseeds wrote:
Seriously ! . Why is this even news . The NHS is under enormous pressure at the moment just to provide the best care it can . Whilst I sympathise with this woman , she shouldn't rubbish a national service that can never be there for every cosmetic procedure .
It is not cosmetic. Her hanging skin will cause extreme discomfort and has the potential to impact negatively on her mental well-being. She has saved the NHS and her body great cost in losing the weight, which was no easy task, the NHS should fund her treatment. Her over-eating in the first place was not due to being a bone idle slob but by bereavement and depression.

Seems we have Peter Hitchens lovers in old Essex. I am the voice of reason and impervious to evidence, mental illness, no no no, it is all choice!
What? She hasn't saved the NHS anything - she has already cost us £22k to have her gastric band. Losing weight is simple - eat less and move more. Bereavement and depression DO NOT make you fat - too much food and greed does that. I'm sure most of us don't like the look of certain parts of our body but we don't bleat to the papers that the NHS won't fix it for us. This dreadful woman is saying in the Brainless and Witless that she looks like Dot Cotton - how very rude of her.
[quote][p][bold]zt00013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buffseeds[/bold] wrote: Seriously ! . Why is this even news . The NHS is under enormous pressure at the moment just to provide the best care it can . Whilst I sympathise with this woman , she shouldn't rubbish a national service that can never be there for every cosmetic procedure .[/p][/quote]It is not cosmetic. Her hanging skin will cause extreme discomfort and has the potential to impact negatively on her mental well-being. She has saved the NHS and her body great cost in losing the weight, which was no easy task, the NHS should fund her treatment. Her over-eating in the first place was not due to being a bone idle slob but by bereavement and depression. Seems we have Peter Hitchens lovers in old Essex. I am the voice of reason and impervious to evidence, mental illness, no no no, it is all choice![/p][/quote]What? She hasn't saved the NHS anything - she has already cost us £22k to have her gastric band. Losing weight is simple - eat less and move more. Bereavement and depression DO NOT make you fat - too much food and greed does that. I'm sure most of us don't like the look of certain parts of our body but we don't bleat to the papers that the NHS won't fix it for us. This dreadful woman is saying in the Brainless and Witless that she looks like Dot Cotton - how very rude of her. The Stinker Returns

12:54pm Fri 20 Dec 13

zt00013 says...

The Stinker Returns wrote:
zt00013 wrote:
Buffseeds wrote:
Seriously ! . Why is this even news . The NHS is under enormous pressure at the moment just to provide the best care it can . Whilst I sympathise with this woman , she shouldn't rubbish a national service that can never be there for every cosmetic procedure .
It is not cosmetic. Her hanging skin will cause extreme discomfort and has the potential to impact negatively on her mental well-being. She has saved the NHS and her body great cost in losing the weight, which was no easy task, the NHS should fund her treatment. Her over-eating in the first place was not due to being a bone idle slob but by bereavement and depression.

Seems we have Peter Hitchens lovers in old Essex. I am the voice of reason and impervious to evidence, mental illness, no no no, it is all choice!
What? She hasn't saved the NHS anything - she has already cost us £22k to have her gastric band. Losing weight is simple - eat less and move more. Bereavement and depression DO NOT make you fat - too much food and greed does that. I'm sure most of us don't like the look of certain parts of our body but we don't bleat to the papers that the NHS won't fix it for us. This dreadful woman is saying in the Brainless and Witless that she looks like Dot Cotton - how very rude of her.
Bereavement and depression hinder the normal functioning of your brain. They prevent you from making rational decisions. The expression of that mental dysfunction could be in a variety of ways, case in point, over-eating and not taking care of her body. What happened to this lady is very sad and was totally beyond her control. She has now with the help of the NHS returned to a healthy weight, however, her looks now may cause her to regress to a previous unhealthy state and negatively affect her mental state. The NHS should fund her treatment and help assist with her recovery.
[quote][p][bold]The Stinker Returns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]zt00013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buffseeds[/bold] wrote: Seriously ! . Why is this even news . The NHS is under enormous pressure at the moment just to provide the best care it can . Whilst I sympathise with this woman , she shouldn't rubbish a national service that can never be there for every cosmetic procedure .[/p][/quote]It is not cosmetic. Her hanging skin will cause extreme discomfort and has the potential to impact negatively on her mental well-being. She has saved the NHS and her body great cost in losing the weight, which was no easy task, the NHS should fund her treatment. Her over-eating in the first place was not due to being a bone idle slob but by bereavement and depression. Seems we have Peter Hitchens lovers in old Essex. I am the voice of reason and impervious to evidence, mental illness, no no no, it is all choice![/p][/quote]What? She hasn't saved the NHS anything - she has already cost us £22k to have her gastric band. Losing weight is simple - eat less and move more. Bereavement and depression DO NOT make you fat - too much food and greed does that. I'm sure most of us don't like the look of certain parts of our body but we don't bleat to the papers that the NHS won't fix it for us. This dreadful woman is saying in the Brainless and Witless that she looks like Dot Cotton - how very rude of her.[/p][/quote]Bereavement and depression hinder the normal functioning of your brain. They prevent you from making rational decisions. The expression of that mental dysfunction could be in a variety of ways, case in point, over-eating and not taking care of her body. What happened to this lady is very sad and was totally beyond her control. She has now with the help of the NHS returned to a healthy weight, however, her looks now may cause her to regress to a previous unhealthy state and negatively affect her mental state. The NHS should fund her treatment and help assist with her recovery. zt00013

1:30pm Fri 20 Dec 13

Reginald47 says...

zt00013 wrote:
The Stinker Returns wrote:
zt00013 wrote:
Buffseeds wrote: Seriously ! . Why is this even news . The NHS is under enormous pressure at the moment just to provide the best care it can . Whilst I sympathise with this woman , she shouldn't rubbish a national service that can never be there for every cosmetic procedure .
It is not cosmetic. Her hanging skin will cause extreme discomfort and has the potential to impact negatively on her mental well-being. She has saved the NHS and her body great cost in losing the weight, which was no easy task, the NHS should fund her treatment. Her over-eating in the first place was not due to being a bone idle slob but by bereavement and depression. Seems we have Peter Hitchens lovers in old Essex. I am the voice of reason and impervious to evidence, mental illness, no no no, it is all choice!
What? She hasn't saved the NHS anything - she has already cost us £22k to have her gastric band. Losing weight is simple - eat less and move more. Bereavement and depression DO NOT make you fat - too much food and greed does that. I'm sure most of us don't like the look of certain parts of our body but we don't bleat to the papers that the NHS won't fix it for us. This dreadful woman is saying in the Brainless and Witless that she looks like Dot Cotton - how very rude of her.
Bereavement and depression hinder the normal functioning of your brain. They prevent you from making rational decisions. The expression of that mental dysfunction could be in a variety of ways, case in point, over-eating and not taking care of her body. What happened to this lady is very sad and was totally beyond her control. She has now with the help of the NHS returned to a healthy weight, however, her looks now may cause her to regress to a previous unhealthy state and negatively affect her mental state. The NHS should fund her treatment and help assist with her recovery.
I have no problem with the treatment being done on the NHS providing she waits in the queue behind people whose surgery is required to save their lives.
[quote][p][bold]zt00013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Stinker Returns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]zt00013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buffseeds[/bold] wrote: Seriously ! . Why is this even news . The NHS is under enormous pressure at the moment just to provide the best care it can . Whilst I sympathise with this woman , she shouldn't rubbish a national service that can never be there for every cosmetic procedure .[/p][/quote]It is not cosmetic. Her hanging skin will cause extreme discomfort and has the potential to impact negatively on her mental well-being. She has saved the NHS and her body great cost in losing the weight, which was no easy task, the NHS should fund her treatment. Her over-eating in the first place was not due to being a bone idle slob but by bereavement and depression. Seems we have Peter Hitchens lovers in old Essex. I am the voice of reason and impervious to evidence, mental illness, no no no, it is all choice![/p][/quote]What? She hasn't saved the NHS anything - she has already cost us £22k to have her gastric band. Losing weight is simple - eat less and move more. Bereavement and depression DO NOT make you fat - too much food and greed does that. I'm sure most of us don't like the look of certain parts of our body but we don't bleat to the papers that the NHS won't fix it for us. This dreadful woman is saying in the Brainless and Witless that she looks like Dot Cotton - how very rude of her.[/p][/quote]Bereavement and depression hinder the normal functioning of your brain. They prevent you from making rational decisions. The expression of that mental dysfunction could be in a variety of ways, case in point, over-eating and not taking care of her body. What happened to this lady is very sad and was totally beyond her control. She has now with the help of the NHS returned to a healthy weight, however, her looks now may cause her to regress to a previous unhealthy state and negatively affect her mental state. The NHS should fund her treatment and help assist with her recovery.[/p][/quote]I have no problem with the treatment being done on the NHS providing she waits in the queue behind people whose surgery is required to save their lives. Reginald47

1:42pm Fri 20 Dec 13

Scoot says...

So the majority seem to be saying "You got yourself into this mess so don't expect the NHS to spend money and use their vital services to sort you out"
What a great idea, perhaps the NHS should adopt this tonight and leave all those who've drunk to excess out on the streets to choke in their own vomit. After all its there own fault they got that way.....
BUT the difference is that this woman suffered depression and found food her 'comfort blanket' , she wasn't doing it to enjoy herself, just trying to escape the pain of a bereavement and miscarriage. If she doesn't have operations then you can sure bet she will need more costly treatment as the loose skin will probably develop into sores which will need ongoing treatment.
So the majority seem to be saying "You got yourself into this mess so don't expect the NHS to spend money and use their vital services to sort you out" What a great idea, perhaps the NHS should adopt this tonight and leave all those who've drunk to excess out on the streets to choke in their own vomit. After all its there own fault they got that way..... BUT the difference is that this woman suffered depression and found food her 'comfort blanket' , she wasn't doing it to enjoy herself, just trying to escape the pain of a bereavement and miscarriage. If she doesn't have operations then you can sure bet she will need more costly treatment as the loose skin will probably develop into sores which will need ongoing treatment. Scoot

1:48pm Fri 20 Dec 13

William George says...

Her big risk of that weight this Lady had reached could have endangered her to a cardiac disaster and luckily she has got saved from that.
She would have had a heart attack and worse to that a heart f failure to a result of death happen.

The sagging skin is not enjoyed but is far less an ailment then that and her life has probably been saved by the NHS.
Her big risk of that weight this Lady had reached could have endangered her to a cardiac disaster and luckily she has got saved from that. She would have had a heart attack and worse to that a heart f failure to a result of death happen. The sagging skin is not enjoyed but is far less an ailment then that and her life has probably been saved by the NHS. William George

2:05pm Fri 20 Dec 13

HARRY438 says...

Give Evridiki (47) her 23stone back,you NHS meanies!
Give Evridiki (47) her 23stone back,you NHS meanies! HARRY438

2:33pm Fri 20 Dec 13

pixiebell87 says...

shes lucky she got the help she did. she should try helping herself the nhs doesnt have unlimited funds for people who cant control their eating!!!
shes lucky she got the help she did. she should try helping herself the nhs doesnt have unlimited funds for people who cant control their eating!!! pixiebell87

3:25pm Fri 20 Dec 13

Fnagster says...

She could always sew some zips in and go shoplifting to raise money for the op!
She could always sew some zips in and go shoplifting to raise money for the op! Fnagster

4:05pm Fri 20 Dec 13

pixiebell87 says...

the nhs do not have to undertake procedures that they deem to be cosmetic- everyone knows that. she got the gastric band and tummy tuck. some people dont even get that!!
the nhs do not have to undertake procedures that they deem to be cosmetic- everyone knows that. she got the gastric band and tummy tuck. some people dont even get that!! pixiebell87

7:56am Sat 21 Dec 13

suzyn says...

Now you spend the money you previously spent on vast amounts of food & pay instalments on a loan for a skin removal operation.
The NHS did it's bit by paying for your expensive gastric band, now it's time for you to pay.
I don't think the NHS should waste any more of its squeezed budget on you & others like you.
Now you spend the money you previously spent on vast amounts of food & pay instalments on a loan for a skin removal operation. The NHS did it's bit by paying for your expensive gastric band, now it's time for you to pay. I don't think the NHS should waste any more of its squeezed budget on you & others like you. suzyn

6:27pm Sat 21 Dec 13

25414nora says...

Not a lot of 'Seasonal Good Will' by most posters on here. Perhaps the brave lady is hoping that some rich benefactor will read about her plight, and maybe offer to bear the cost of corrective surgery, 'It is known to happen'....
Not everyone has a mean and spiteful outlook on life.
Not a lot of 'Seasonal Good Will' by most posters on here. Perhaps the brave lady is hoping that some rich benefactor will read about her plight, and maybe offer to bear the cost of corrective surgery, 'It is known to happen'.... Not everyone has a mean and spiteful outlook on life. 25414nora

6:46am Mon 23 Dec 13

shallowJoker says...

I think more importanly she should get something done about that wallpaper.
I think more importanly she should get something done about that wallpaper. shallowJoker

12:08pm Mon 23 Dec 13

lilypad says...

Cant believe how nasty and shallow some posters are. Yes, the NHS is under strain but severe weight gain can be caused by many factors, and 99% of the time it's not just a case of stuffing your face because you are just plain greedy ! Read the article and you will see the lady's husband passed away and she had a stillbirth - some people turn to drink or drugs, some people turn to food for comfort and lucky for some they cope, but not all people do - so, please, until you are in that situation you will never know, shame on you for judging someone by just reading a newspaper article
Cant believe how nasty and shallow some posters are. Yes, the NHS is under strain but severe weight gain can be caused by many factors, and 99% of the time it's not just a case of stuffing your face because you are just plain greedy ! Read the article and you will see the lady's husband passed away and she had a stillbirth - some people turn to drink or drugs, some people turn to food for comfort and lucky for some they cope, but not all people do - so, please, until you are in that situation you will never know, shame on you for judging someone by just reading a newspaper article lilypad

1:46pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Misty4 says...

Bralth wrote:
A long sleeve jumper will do the trick.
Much cheaper, too.
[quote][p][bold]Bralth[/bold] wrote: A long sleeve jumper will do the trick.[/p][/quote]Much cheaper, too. Misty4

4:52pm Mon 23 Dec 13

sylmjk says...

Wow! I thought I was reading a bunch of comments by American Tea-Party Republicans for a second. Not much "I will walk a mile in your shoes before I judge you" going on here, and this woman lost a husband and suffered a miscarriage. There but for the grace of God go I. Should a physician determine it is more medically necessary than cosmetic, of course she should be able to get this done. She didn't lose 5-10 stone, she lost 23 stone. And she lives, after all, in country that does provide for medical care, and that would include depression and the attendant coping mechanisms. So, may our words today be kind, for tomorrow we may have to eat them.
Wow! I thought I was reading a bunch of comments by American Tea-Party Republicans for a second. Not much "I will walk a mile in your shoes before I judge you" going on here, and this woman lost a husband and suffered a miscarriage. There but for the grace of God go I. Should a physician determine it is more medically necessary than cosmetic, of course she should be able to get this done. She didn't lose 5-10 stone, she lost 23 stone. And she lives, after all, in country that does provide for medical care, and that would include depression and the attendant coping mechanisms. So, may our words today be kind, for tomorrow we may have to eat them. sylmjk

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