Dedicated patrols reduce antisocial behaviour at Firstsite

Gazette: Dedicated patrols reduce antisocial behaviour at Firstsite Dedicated patrols reduce antisocial behaviour at Firstsite

A GALLERY has been given dedicated daily security paid for out of the public purse.

In October police received ten complaints about antisocial behaviour around the visual arts facility at Lewis Gardens, off East Hill and Queen Street.

The response, together with Colchester Council, was to position officers or council wardens at the site every day.

In November there was one complaint about antisocial behaviour following the increased presence.

Sgt Sue Richardson, of Colchester police, said: "This is another great example of partnership working.

"The police officers, PCSOs and zone wardens have done a fantastic job and have gone a long way to ease the burden of antisocial behaviour in the town centre.”

Patrols will continue on a regular basis.

The site, when opened, boasted inclusive public spaces around the outside for everyone to enjoy like a mini London South Bank.

But soon objections about skateboarders and youths began filtering through to the police and council.

About £10,000 was spent installing metal studs on the edge of small walls.

One of these was ripped off and thrown through a large window at the gallery before the crackdown.


 

Visitors, staff and nearby residents also complained about youngsters
hanging around outside.


They have been accused of being intimidating, daubing graffiti and causing criminal damage.
 

A team of ten Colchester Council street wardens were tasked to patrol the public area in front of the gallery from 8am to 4pm on weekdays with the support of the police.

The presence has been scaled back.

 

 

 

 

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9:37am Wed 11 Dec 13

Bert_Stimpson says...

£28m+ wasted. Even more public money wasted on the firsts*ite fiasco. The golden turd stands as a decaying monument to vanity and ego-driven local politics and public sector incompetence.

Stop funding it. Drop the cultural quarter nonsense. Promote Colchester;s history and heritage and smarten up the town centre instead.
£28m+ wasted. Even more public money wasted on the firsts*ite fiasco. The golden turd stands as a decaying monument to vanity and ego-driven local politics and public sector incompetence. Stop funding it. Drop the cultural quarter nonsense. Promote Colchester;s history and heritage and smarten up the town centre instead. Bert_Stimpson

10:20am Wed 11 Dec 13

wormshero says...

"The site, when opened, boasted inclusive public spaces around the outside for everyone to enjoy like a mini London South Bank.

But soon objections about skateboarders and youths began filtering through to the police and council."

So people were happy that it was like a mini London Southbank and then took issue to the presence of what London Southbank is now known for, the skateboarders? It's sad additional money is being wasted trying to crack down on basically nothing. Putting in obstructions to try and deter skateboarding (and risk injury to those who don't see the metal studs is disgusting (although that doesn't justify throwing one through a window). While graffiti tags make a place look horrid, if we're trying to make that an arts heavy area then why not designate an area to graffitti art? Some of it nationally is fantastic, and really livens up an area. Rather than basically adding anti-youth security to an area that's generally pretty dull how about people just embrace the good parts and help nurture the artistic elements.
"The site, when opened, boasted inclusive public spaces around the outside for everyone to enjoy like a mini London South Bank. But soon objections about skateboarders and youths began filtering through to the police and council." So people were happy that it was like a mini London Southbank and then took issue to the presence of what London Southbank is now known for, the skateboarders? It's sad additional money is being wasted trying to crack down on basically nothing. Putting in obstructions to try and deter skateboarding (and risk injury to those who don't see the metal studs is disgusting (although that doesn't justify throwing one through a window). While graffiti tags make a place look horrid, if we're trying to make that an arts heavy area then why not designate an area to graffitti art? Some of it nationally is fantastic, and really livens up an area. Rather than basically adding anti-youth security to an area that's generally pretty dull how about people just embrace the good parts and help nurture the artistic elements. wormshero

10:22am Wed 11 Dec 13

Colonel Kurtz says...

The gallery is almost empty. There are old 2 jet engines in the reception so called modern art. Little else is present. Several staff just sit about bored. What a waste of money. How can this be a good use of public money?
The gallery is almost empty. There are old 2 jet engines in the reception so called modern art. Little else is present. Several staff just sit about bored. What a waste of money. How can this be a good use of public money? Colonel Kurtz

10:25am Wed 11 Dec 13

Colonel Kurtz says...

Colonel Kurtz wrote:
The gallery is almost empty. There are old 2 jet engines in the reception so called modern art. Little else is present. Several staff just sit about bored. What a waste of money. How can this be a good use of public money?
Incidentally when I was in there yesterday. I was the only member of the public there. Nobody wants to come and see nothing. A giant folly of nothing
[quote][p][bold]Colonel Kurtz[/bold] wrote: The gallery is almost empty. There are old 2 jet engines in the reception so called modern art. Little else is present. Several staff just sit about bored. What a waste of money. How can this be a good use of public money?[/p][/quote]Incidentally when I was in there yesterday. I was the only member of the public there. Nobody wants to come and see nothing. A giant folly of nothing Colonel Kurtz

10:30am Wed 11 Dec 13

jim_bo says...

You did Colonel!
You did Colonel! jim_bo

11:11am Wed 11 Dec 13

Jess Jephcott says...

Some people could whinge for England. All anti-social behaviour in public should be challenged, wherever it is. But because this is going on at Firstsite, the usual hatists come to the fore. You would think they could turn their attention to the real issues that affect Colchester rather than venting their spleen at people they don't have anything whatsoever in common with. Added that they stay anonymous just shows what cowards they are.
Some people could whinge for England. All anti-social behaviour in public should be challenged, wherever it is. But because this is going on at Firstsite, the usual hatists come to the fore. You would think they could turn their attention to the real issues that affect Colchester rather than venting their spleen at people they don't have anything whatsoever in common with. Added that they stay anonymous just shows what cowards they are. Jess Jephcott

11:53am Wed 11 Dec 13

Bert_Stimpson says...

Jess Jephcott wrote:
Some people could whinge for England. All anti-social behaviour in public should be challenged, wherever it is. But because this is going on at Firstsite, the usual hatists come to the fore. You would think they could turn their attention to the real issues that affect Colchester rather than venting their spleen at people they don't have anything whatsoever in common with. Added that they stay anonymous just shows what cowards they are.
Jess, you're pretty close to a breakthrough in this comment.

The point is that the money wasted on firsts*ite should be spent on tackling the real issues that affect Colchester. (Rather than being used to polish a golden turd that is an expensive failure and Council folly)

There are limited public resources available. The money wasted on the firsts*ite arts elite is money that should and could be spent elsewhere.
[quote][p][bold]Jess Jephcott[/bold] wrote: Some people could whinge for England. All anti-social behaviour in public should be challenged, wherever it is. But because this is going on at Firstsite, the usual hatists come to the fore. You would think they could turn their attention to the real issues that affect Colchester rather than venting their spleen at people they don't have anything whatsoever in common with. Added that they stay anonymous just shows what cowards they are.[/p][/quote]Jess, you're pretty close to a breakthrough in this comment. The point is that the money wasted on firsts*ite should be spent on tackling the real issues that affect Colchester. (Rather than being used to polish a golden turd that is an expensive failure and Council folly) There are limited public resources available. The money wasted on the firsts*ite arts elite is money that should and could be spent elsewhere. Bert_Stimpson

1:29pm Wed 11 Dec 13

hughie-s says...

Colonel Kurtz wrote:
The gallery is almost empty. There are old 2 jet engines in the reception so called modern art. Little else is present. Several staff just sit about bored. What a waste of money. How can this be a good use of public money?
Yet they were recently advertising for more staff.
[quote][p][bold]Colonel Kurtz[/bold] wrote: The gallery is almost empty. There are old 2 jet engines in the reception so called modern art. Little else is present. Several staff just sit about bored. What a waste of money. How can this be a good use of public money?[/p][/quote]Yet they were recently advertising for more staff. hughie-s

1:57pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Bert_Stimpson says...

hughie-s wrote:
Colonel Kurtz wrote:
The gallery is almost empty. There are old 2 jet engines in the reception so called modern art. Little else is present. Several staff just sit about bored. What a waste of money. How can this be a good use of public money?
Yet they were recently advertising for more staff.
If there's one thing the arts elite are good at, it is spending public money - especially on their own wages and pension funds. Take a look through the Firsts*ite accounts on the Charities Commission website.

Look at CBC spending data too to see extra Firsts*ite expenditure. There are a few people that have personally done well from this expensive fiasco. As long as the cash keeps rolling in, they will continue to take it.

That's the harsh but simple truth.
[quote][p][bold]hughie-s[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Colonel Kurtz[/bold] wrote: The gallery is almost empty. There are old 2 jet engines in the reception so called modern art. Little else is present. Several staff just sit about bored. What a waste of money. How can this be a good use of public money?[/p][/quote]Yet they were recently advertising for more staff.[/p][/quote]If there's one thing the arts elite are good at, it is spending public money - especially on their own wages and pension funds. Take a look through the Firsts*ite accounts on the Charities Commission website. Look at CBC spending data too to see extra Firsts*ite expenditure. There are a few people that have personally done well from this expensive fiasco. As long as the cash keeps rolling in, they will continue to take it. That's the harsh but simple truth. Bert_Stimpson

2:24pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Ontheball says...

These clowns at CBC are happy to spend money on this sort of thing, but close down old peoples homes, etc for want of extra cash that they say they haven't got! Soon found it for this white elephant though. They are all a damned joke.
These clowns at CBC are happy to spend money on this sort of thing, but close down old peoples homes, etc for want of extra cash that they say they haven't got! Soon found it for this white elephant though. They are all a damned joke. Ontheball

5:11pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Colonel Kurtz says...

tomtheDJ wrote:
well guys, your comments just about cover it all,
yet I`m puzzled,
no one from the hate jaywick, hate good old tom seems to say anything of real value in the own cess pitts, the turd included.




wonder if I can get them old jet engines running,
It`ll be a real WHOOSH for the turd eh....lol
No the engines are just scrap value. Half the components are missing. Its all bent and twisted. Priceless art I don't think so but better then the pile of rubble that was in its place when it first opened.
[quote][p][bold]tomtheDJ[/bold] wrote: well guys, your comments just about cover it all, yet I`m puzzled, no one from the hate jaywick, hate good old tom seems to say anything of real value in the own cess pitts, the turd included. wonder if I can get them old jet engines running, It`ll be a real WHOOSH for the turd eh....lol[/p][/quote]No the engines are just scrap value. Half the components are missing. Its all bent and twisted. Priceless art I don't think so but better then the pile of rubble that was in its place when it first opened. Colonel Kurtz

6:46pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Hamiltonandy says...

I went on several visits to see the famed security guards. Yes, I reported five street wardens were "patrolling" this desolate windswept area at the end of November. Start of December no security/street wardens either during the week or at weekends when the Firstsite parasites were supposed to appear from their carbuncle.
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Perhaps the reality is as suggested by the quote: "Patrols will continue on a regular basis". Presumably this means the "cultural quarter" will just be on the circuit round town and could be once a day or less. I will have a look round the town to find where they have disappeared to. In this cold weather probably security checks at McDonalds. Definitely not the VAF as they never went in that.
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Scarce public funds being diverted from front line services to protect the most unwanted tin shed in Colchester will not save the art elite from eventual eviction. Colchester Council according to a Scrutiny panel report expect a year end debt of over £151million. The public finances cannot continue to keep unpopular money pits going whilst closing down much needed services to the elderly and disabled.
I went on several visits to see the famed security guards. Yes, I reported five street wardens were "patrolling" this desolate windswept area at the end of November. Start of December no security/street wardens either during the week or at weekends when the Firstsite parasites were supposed to appear from their carbuncle. . Perhaps the reality is as suggested by the quote: "Patrols will continue on a regular basis". Presumably this means the "cultural quarter" will just be on the circuit round town and could be once a day or less. I will have a look round the town to find where they have disappeared to. In this cold weather probably security checks at McDonalds. Definitely not the VAF as they never went in that. . Scarce public funds being diverted from front line services to protect the most unwanted tin shed in Colchester will not save the art elite from eventual eviction. Colchester Council according to a Scrutiny panel report expect a year end debt of over £151million. The public finances cannot continue to keep unpopular money pits going whilst closing down much needed services to the elderly and disabled. Hamiltonandy

2:18am Thu 12 Dec 13

Boris says...

I was there a few hours ago (8 pm on Wednesday) to see a film. The approach to the VAF was utterly disappointing. I realise it is chilly at night now, but where were all the skateboarders? Far from being "antisocial", they are the life of the town. CBC should encourage them to be there and make use of that desolate space. i hope they will soon be back.
The only antisocial people in this story are the miserable gits who moan about young people innocently enjoying themselves. His comment above shows that that serial moaner, Jess Jephcott, is among them. Shame on you, Jess, you old killjoy.
I was there a few hours ago (8 pm on Wednesday) to see a film. The approach to the VAF was utterly disappointing. I realise it is chilly at night now, but where were all the skateboarders? Far from being "antisocial", they are the life of the town. CBC should encourage them to be there and make use of that desolate space. i hope they will soon be back. The only antisocial people in this story are the miserable gits who moan about young people innocently enjoying themselves. His comment above shows that that serial moaner, Jess Jephcott, is among them. Shame on you, Jess, you old killjoy. Boris

9:54am Thu 12 Dec 13

LeQueen says...

The most anti-social thing I see is groups of wasters drinking and smoking together. Leering at women and blowing toxic smoke over the surrounding area.
The most anti-social thing I see is groups of wasters drinking and smoking together. Leering at women and blowing toxic smoke over the surrounding area. LeQueen

2:25pm Thu 12 Dec 13

William George says...

Boris wrote:
I was there a few hours ago (8 pm on Wednesday) to see a film. The approach to the VAF was utterly disappointing. I realise it is chilly at night now, but where were all the skateboarders? Far from being "antisocial", they are the life of the town. CBC should encourage them to be there and make use of that desolate space. i hope they will soon be back.
The only antisocial people in this story are the miserable gits who moan about young people innocently enjoying themselves. His comment above shows that that serial moaner, Jess Jephcott, is among them. Shame on you, Jess, you old killjoy.
Boris,

I think your words in your comment are very wise and thoughtful speaking about the Skateboarders as you did.

Skateboarding is an art in itself too.

But don't you think your views in those words make the blood of the staff at the VAF boil?
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: I was there a few hours ago (8 pm on Wednesday) to see a film. The approach to the VAF was utterly disappointing. I realise it is chilly at night now, but where were all the skateboarders? Far from being "antisocial", they are the life of the town. CBC should encourage them to be there and make use of that desolate space. i hope they will soon be back. The only antisocial people in this story are the miserable gits who moan about young people innocently enjoying themselves. His comment above shows that that serial moaner, Jess Jephcott, is among them. Shame on you, Jess, you old killjoy.[/p][/quote]Boris, I think your words in your comment are very wise and thoughtful speaking about the Skateboarders as you did. Skateboarding is an art in itself too. But don't you think your views in those words make the blood of the staff at the VAF boil? William George

5:05pm Thu 12 Dec 13

romantic says...

William George wrote:
Boris wrote:
I was there a few hours ago (8 pm on Wednesday) to see a film. The approach to the VAF was utterly disappointing. I realise it is chilly at night now, but where were all the skateboarders? Far from being "antisocial", they are the life of the town. CBC should encourage them to be there and make use of that desolate space. i hope they will soon be back.
The only antisocial people in this story are the miserable gits who moan about young people innocently enjoying themselves. His comment above shows that that serial moaner, Jess Jephcott, is among them. Shame on you, Jess, you old killjoy.
Boris,

I think your words in your comment are very wise and thoughtful speaking about the Skateboarders as you did.

Skateboarding is an art in itself too.

But don't you think your views in those words make the blood of the staff at the VAF boil?
To be fair, I don't think the staff at the VAF are the ones who have a problem with the skateboarders. And I don't think Boris was aiming his quote at the staff in any case. I go past the VAF quite often and have no problem with kids hanging around. I did the same myself when I was a kid. The only gripe I would have is that too much litter gets left around, which is a shame. Take it to a bin, kids! I agree with Boris that it is better this space gets used by somebody, rather than just be an empty area.
[quote][p][bold]William George[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: I was there a few hours ago (8 pm on Wednesday) to see a film. The approach to the VAF was utterly disappointing. I realise it is chilly at night now, but where were all the skateboarders? Far from being "antisocial", they are the life of the town. CBC should encourage them to be there and make use of that desolate space. i hope they will soon be back. The only antisocial people in this story are the miserable gits who moan about young people innocently enjoying themselves. His comment above shows that that serial moaner, Jess Jephcott, is among them. Shame on you, Jess, you old killjoy.[/p][/quote]Boris, I think your words in your comment are very wise and thoughtful speaking about the Skateboarders as you did. Skateboarding is an art in itself too. But don't you think your views in those words make the blood of the staff at the VAF boil?[/p][/quote]To be fair, I don't think the staff at the VAF are the ones who have a problem with the skateboarders. And I don't think Boris was aiming his quote at the staff in any case. I go past the VAF quite often and have no problem with kids hanging around. I did the same myself when I was a kid. The only gripe I would have is that too much litter gets left around, which is a shame. Take it to a bin, kids! I agree with Boris that it is better this space gets used by somebody, rather than just be an empty area. romantic

1:21am Fri 13 Dec 13

Boris says...

Thanks, William G and Romantic. I agree that the VAF staff are not bothered either way about the skateboarders - no reason why they should be, for they are not responsible for what goes on outside their building. I also agree that skateboarding is an art, and i wish it had been invented when i was young.
Thanks, William G and Romantic. I agree that the VAF staff are not bothered either way about the skateboarders - no reason why they should be, for they are not responsible for what goes on outside their building. I also agree that skateboarding is an art, and i wish it had been invented when i was young. Boris

12:12am Sat 14 Dec 13

TheBrotherhoodOfTheBell says...

Not a very nice or friendly way to talk to each other on this site.

Mr Jephcott might be a jolly nice fellow
Not a very nice or friendly way to talk to each other on this site. Mr Jephcott might be a jolly nice fellow TheBrotherhoodOfTheBell

6:12pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Hamiltonandy says...

I would agree that Mr Jephcott is normally a thoughtful person as shown by his leadership role in the Military Museum campaign.
However it is not true to assert that people "hate" the VAF. People do hate the misuse of public resources on a tiny art elite in the VAF when this, admittedly ugly building, should be making a good financial return . The Firstsite people have repeatedly refused to make public the detailed "visitor" figures and see no need to communicate with the public. In contrast the perfectly normal teenagers enjoying a challenging sport get no subsidies whilst using this abandoned public area.
Perhaps Mr Jephcott would write a letter to the Gazette explaining the "real issues" we have apparently ignored. To assert that forum contributors "vent their spleen at people they don't have anything whatsoever in common" seems somewhat judgemental. And to suggest those who stay anonymous
are "cowards" is a bit hard when some people have good reasons such as council staff to conceal identities.
I would agree that Mr Jephcott is normally a thoughtful person as shown by his leadership role in the Military Museum campaign. However it is not true to assert that people "hate" the VAF. People do hate the misuse of public resources on a tiny art elite in the VAF when this, admittedly ugly building, should be making a good financial return . The Firstsite people have repeatedly refused to make public the detailed "visitor" figures and see no need to communicate with the public. In contrast the perfectly normal teenagers enjoying a challenging sport get no subsidies whilst using this abandoned public area. Perhaps Mr Jephcott would write a letter to the Gazette explaining the "real issues" we have apparently ignored. To assert that forum contributors "vent their spleen at people they don't have anything whatsoever in common" seems somewhat judgemental. And to suggest those who stay anonymous are "cowards" is a bit hard when some people have good reasons such as council staff to conceal identities. Hamiltonandy

6:46pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Lisa Bowden says...

People who are saying the gallery is empty should come along on a Saturday and see the thriving family sessions which are brilliant, engaging, FREE, and always well attended. My children are enthusiastic and knowledgeable about art, thanks in part to firstsite! They will grow up knowing that art and galleries enrich our lives and are for EVERYONE - not some imaginary elite.

In my opinion we're incredibly lucky to have a top class facility like this in our town. The staff are knowledgeable, enthusiastic and friendly, not 'hanging around bored'. Negativity and a weird kind of inverse snobbery about firstsite are rampant on the Gazette site for some reason, and make it look like Colchester is some kind of blinkered, cultural backwater.
People who are saying the gallery is empty should come along on a Saturday and see the thriving family sessions which are brilliant, engaging, FREE, and always well attended. My children are enthusiastic and knowledgeable about art, thanks in part to firstsite! They will grow up knowing that art and galleries enrich our lives and are for EVERYONE - not some imaginary elite. In my opinion we're incredibly lucky to have a top class facility like this in our town. The staff are knowledgeable, enthusiastic and friendly, not 'hanging around bored'. Negativity and a weird kind of inverse snobbery about firstsite are rampant on the Gazette site for some reason, and make it look like Colchester is some kind of blinkered, cultural backwater. Lisa Bowden

8:39pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Hamiltonandy says...

Thanks Lisa for your views. None of your comments justify spending £28million when there are plenty of halls that could be booked for children's art activities. This building is so heavily subsidised that it works out about £20 subsidy for every real visitor, child or adult, to go in. It is a little unfair to criticise those who have actually monitored the non-activity of Firstsite staff.
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There are a lot of local artists who object to the refusal of Firstsite to permit exhibitions of local art. What makes it worse is the illegal breach of the VAF lease conditions and Firstsite charitable objects in running financial seminars for the rich and business conferences. Firstsite have always ignored public objections and are starting to face the financial consequences. Even before the VAF was built, Colchester Council were warned what would happen and they were too arrogant to face the facts.
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The Mercury Theatre and Colchester Art Centre certainly show we are NOT a "blinkered cultural backwater". Why did you not come to council meetings when the cuts to these popular institutions was proposed? I was there, spoke out, but was forced to see the town hall social club put arbitrary cuts on these valued art bodies whilst still insisting on subsidising the Firstsite parasites.
Thanks Lisa for your views. None of your comments justify spending £28million when there are plenty of halls that could be booked for children's art activities. This building is so heavily subsidised that it works out about £20 subsidy for every real visitor, child or adult, to go in. It is a little unfair to criticise those who have actually monitored the non-activity of Firstsite staff. . There are a lot of local artists who object to the refusal of Firstsite to permit exhibitions of local art. What makes it worse is the illegal breach of the VAF lease conditions and Firstsite charitable objects in running financial seminars for the rich and business conferences. Firstsite have always ignored public objections and are starting to face the financial consequences. Even before the VAF was built, Colchester Council were warned what would happen and they were too arrogant to face the facts. . The Mercury Theatre and Colchester Art Centre certainly show we are NOT a "blinkered cultural backwater". Why did you not come to council meetings when the cuts to these popular institutions was proposed? I was there, spoke out, but was forced to see the town hall social club put arbitrary cuts on these valued art bodies whilst still insisting on subsidising the Firstsite parasites. Hamiltonandy

9:06pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Lisa Bowden says...

Your comment that "there are plenty of halls that could be booked for children's art activities" shows how differently we see this issue. At firstsite my children participate in workshops led by talented and dynamic artists, using a fantastic variety of media. The quality of these experiences is a far cry from fingerpainting in a church hall. This is of course only one example of the work firstsite does with the local community; there are many more and I did not mean to give the impression I thought that was the main purpose of the gallery, but it is depressing to see people slamming it as empty, unpopular and elitist, when so many of the local community are benefiting from it every week.

I don't personally agree about displays of local art. If I visit a London gallery, or a gallery in any city in the world, I don't expect to see displays by local artists. We are lucky enough in Colchester to have the fabulous Minories, Slackspace and commercial galleries in the town where there are regular exhibitions of local art.
Your comment that "there are plenty of halls that could be booked for children's art activities" shows how differently we see this issue. At firstsite my children participate in workshops led by talented and dynamic artists, using a fantastic variety of media. The quality of these experiences is a far cry from fingerpainting in a church hall. This is of course only one example of the work firstsite does with the local community; there are many more and I did not mean to give the impression I thought that was the main purpose of the gallery, but it is depressing to see people slamming it as empty, unpopular and elitist, when so many of the local community are benefiting from it every week. I don't personally agree about displays of local art. If I visit a London gallery, or a gallery in any city in the world, I don't expect to see displays by local artists. We are lucky enough in Colchester to have the fabulous Minories, Slackspace and commercial galleries in the town where there are regular exhibitions of local art. Lisa Bowden

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