Garrison plans labelled an "embarassment"

Garrison plans labelled an

Garrison plans labelled an "embarassment"

First published in News

PLANS to build four-storey apartment blocks in the middle of Colchester’s former garrison have been branded an embarrassment.

Historians and architects fear a proposed redevelopment of the garrison’s old headquarters in Flagstaff Road will have a damaging impact on nearby St John’s Abbey Gate.

Taylor Wimpey has applied to renovate much of the 19th century site, including administration buildings and homes set aside for top officers.

It has also applied to knock down some of the buildings and replace them with developments, including two, four-storey blocks, each of 30 flats.

In total, 137 homes, mostly flats, are proposed.

The Building Preservation Trust has objected to the bid, describing it as an embarrassment that could never be undone.

David Balcombe, chairman, said the 15th century Abbey Gate was the town’s second most important historic monument, behind Colchester Castle.

He said: “We think more attention ought to be put into the quality of the setting of the Abbey Gate as a building of distinction within the borough “There’s nothing wrong with the architecture, but it’s the wrong scheme in this location.

Built somewhere else, it would look fine.

“There’s a challenge for the local authority to get the best possible scheme they can negotiate and this scheme falls woefully short of that.”

The garrison masterplan, approved by Colchester Council in 2000, set the land aside for 117 homes, along with 40,000ft of commercial space.

The new proposal would also see more buildings demolished than originally envisaged.

Andrew Phillips, Colchester historian, said he understood many of the buildings could not be preserved and that developers had to turn a profit.

He said: “The key word is sensitivity.

“There has to be a balance between the need of the developer to maximise sales and the fact that it is our town, our garrison, our future and our skyline.”

A Taylor Wimpey spokesman said its proposals represented a fantastic opportunity to bring historic military buildings back into active use, through careful restoration, while creating an exciting collection of contemporary homes. He said: “We have worked in partnership with English Heritage and Colchester Council to ensure our proposed scheme recognises the heritage of this important site, including by demarking the ancient Roman Circus located partly within the site. Taylor Wimpey is selling very well in Colchester and across Essex.

“Should our planning application be approved, this development will help to fulfil continuing demand for high-quality new homes in the area.”

Colchester Council is due to rule on the proposals in the New Year.

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8:28am Wed 4 Dec 13

jammin says...

A Taylor Wimpey spokesman was told under no uncertain terms by his Directors not to disclose how much money they want to make from this scheme, destroying as many of the restrictive existing buildings as possible to squeeze in more and more money making flats as possible.

No doubt more of our history will be lost to line the pockets of developers and councilors, shameful. History will be forced to recall ruthless individuals and not our glorious buildings.
A Taylor Wimpey spokesman was told under no uncertain terms by his Directors not to disclose how much money they want to make from this scheme, destroying as many of the restrictive existing buildings as possible to squeeze in more and more money making flats as possible. No doubt more of our history will be lost to line the pockets of developers and councilors, shameful. History will be forced to recall ruthless individuals and not our glorious buildings. jammin
  • Score: 12

9:10am Wed 4 Dec 13

siteman says...

Colchester needs a few more flats. We only have a few hundred constantly for sale along the Hythe!
Colchester needs a few more flats. We only have a few hundred constantly for sale along the Hythe! siteman
  • Score: 12

10:30am Wed 4 Dec 13

Jess Jephcott says...

Sorry Gazette but your article is woefully short on detail. What exactly are Taylor Wimpey planning to do?
Sorry Gazette but your article is woefully short on detail. What exactly are Taylor Wimpey planning to do? Jess Jephcott
  • Score: 6

10:36am Wed 4 Dec 13

Ritchie_Hicks says...

siteman wrote:
Colchester needs a few more flats. We only have a few hundred constantly for sale along the Hythe!
ha ha
[quote][p][bold]siteman[/bold] wrote: Colchester needs a few more flats. We only have a few hundred constantly for sale along the Hythe![/p][/quote]ha ha Ritchie_Hicks
  • Score: 1

11:29am Wed 4 Dec 13

Cllr Martin Hunt says...

jammin wrote:
A Taylor Wimpey spokesman was told under no uncertain terms by his Directors not to disclose how much money they want to make from this scheme, destroying as many of the restrictive existing buildings as possible to squeeze in more and more money making flats as possible. No doubt more of our history will be lost to line the pockets of developers and councilors, shameful. History will be forced to recall ruthless individuals and not our glorious buildings.
Some further explanation of what you mean by more of our history will be lost to 'line the pockets' of councillors would be useful before I comment further.
[quote][p][bold]jammin[/bold] wrote: A Taylor Wimpey spokesman was told under no uncertain terms by his Directors not to disclose how much money they want to make from this scheme, destroying as many of the restrictive existing buildings as possible to squeeze in more and more money making flats as possible. No doubt more of our history will be lost to line the pockets of developers and councilors, shameful. History will be forced to recall ruthless individuals and not our glorious buildings.[/p][/quote]Some further explanation of what you mean by more of our history will be lost to 'line the pockets' of councillors would be useful before I comment further. Cllr Martin Hunt
  • Score: 0

11:38am Wed 4 Dec 13

Hamiltonandy says...

The pictures in the Gazette show hideous buildings planned and not an "exciting collection of contemporary homes". There is no way this developer "worked in partnership with English Heritage".
The pictures in the Gazette show hideous buildings planned and not an "exciting collection of contemporary homes". There is no way this developer "worked in partnership with English Heritage". Hamiltonandy
  • Score: 3

1:21pm Wed 4 Dec 13

wardyt says...

What about the supporting infrastructure for these homes, Councillors?Gridlock
ed roads and overcrowded schools don't seem to concern you.
What about the supporting infrastructure for these homes, Councillors?Gridlock ed roads and overcrowded schools don't seem to concern you. wardyt
  • Score: 1

3:38pm Wed 4 Dec 13

Fellulah69 says...

Colchester-Britains oldest recorded town-with no proof of this as the council alongside developers look set to destroy the heritage we have left. Make them refurb and rennovate what is there! Leave some character and history in place!!
Colchester-Britains oldest recorded town-with no proof of this as the council alongside developers look set to destroy the heritage we have left. Make them refurb and rennovate what is there! Leave some character and history in place!! Fellulah69
  • Score: 1

4:07pm Wed 4 Dec 13

wardyt says...

If the developer voted Conserative, this would never have got off the ground.
If the developer voted Conserative, this would never have got off the ground. wardyt
  • Score: -2

5:42pm Wed 4 Dec 13

TheEqualisers says...

jammin wrote:
A Taylor Wimpey spokesman was told under no uncertain terms by his Directors not to disclose how much money they want to make from this scheme, destroying as many of the restrictive existing buildings as possible to squeeze in more and more money making flats as possible.

No doubt more of our history will be lost to line the pockets of developers and councilors, shameful. History will be forced to recall ruthless individuals and not our glorious buildings.
I think what the poster ....jammin....is indicating is that some of your colleagues could be miscreant or bent....is it not Mr Hunt?

Well there is no point getting all craggy faced and tough about a remark from probably a quite robust and salacious member of this stalwart community.

Lets face it we have not got too much to worry about here if its anything like the house they built for me....It will fall apart in 5 years then you can start all over again, with another round of Planning Bungs oops so sorry I meant applications....

I mean we are hardly whiter than white here...

1. We now have probably the worst Hospital trust in the country on record...the other lot cleaned their acts up, yet we get caught out again.

2. There where huge eye brow raising issues at VAF or FAF First SH*TE sorry Foresight no I mean Firstsite.

3. The scandal and fiasco at Street Services some years ago which is now carrying on into Parking Enforcement money collection issues.

4. Colchester Leisure world 1991 do you remember Sergeant & Potriardis...If not I can refresh the memories for all of us to read....

5. The local masonic lodges £125,000 which turned into £80,000. that donned a pair of shoe's and went for a walk.

6. Or what about the E 80,000 Euros that disappeared under the nose of the divisional commander at Essex Police Colchester station.

This are only half the stories that got to press I wont start on the quangos that went haywire in the Borough in the last 6 years...some of the former managers are now sitting on chairs of oversight committees.

When someone is indicating miscreant behaviour lets not all get hissy about it surely?
[quote][p][bold]jammin[/bold] wrote: A Taylor Wimpey spokesman was told under no uncertain terms by his Directors not to disclose how much money they want to make from this scheme, destroying as many of the restrictive existing buildings as possible to squeeze in more and more money making flats as possible. No doubt more of our history will be lost to line the pockets of developers and councilors, shameful. History will be forced to recall ruthless individuals and not our glorious buildings.[/p][/quote]I think what the poster ....jammin....is indicating is that some of your colleagues could be miscreant or bent....is it not Mr Hunt? Well there is no point getting all craggy faced and tough about a remark from probably a quite robust and salacious member of this stalwart community. Lets face it we have not got too much to worry about here if its anything like the house they built for me....It will fall apart in 5 years then you can start all over again, with another round of Planning Bungs oops so sorry I meant applications.... I mean we are hardly whiter than white here... 1. We now have probably the worst Hospital trust in the country on record...the other lot cleaned their acts up, yet we get caught out again. 2. There where huge eye brow raising issues at VAF or FAF First SH*TE sorry Foresight no I mean Firstsite. 3. The scandal and fiasco at Street Services some years ago which is now carrying on into Parking Enforcement money collection issues. 4. Colchester Leisure world 1991 do you remember Sergeant & Potriardis...If not I can refresh the memories for all of us to read.... 5. The local masonic lodges £125,000 which turned into £80,000. that donned a pair of shoe's and went for a walk. 6. Or what about the E 80,000 Euros that disappeared under the nose of the divisional commander at Essex Police Colchester station. This are only half the stories that got to press I wont start on the quangos that went haywire in the Borough in the last 6 years...some of the former managers are now sitting on chairs of oversight committees. When someone is indicating miscreant behaviour lets not all get hissy about it surely? TheEqualisers
  • Score: 1

5:44pm Wed 4 Dec 13

treadstone says...

Cllr Martin Hunt wrote:
jammin wrote:
A Taylor Wimpey spokesman was told under no uncertain terms by his Directors not to disclose how much money they want to make from this scheme, destroying as many of the restrictive existing buildings as possible to squeeze in more and more money making flats as possible. No doubt more of our history will be lost to line the pockets of developers and councilors, shameful. History will be forced to recall ruthless individuals and not our glorious buildings.
Some further explanation of what you mean by more of our history will be lost to 'line the pockets' of councillors would be useful before I comment further.
I think what the poster ....jammin....is indicating is that some of your colleagues could be miscreant or bent....is it not Mr Hunt?

Well there is no point getting all craggy faced and tough about a remark from probably a quite robust and salacious member of this stalwart community.

Lets face it we have not got too much to worry about here if its anything like the house they built for me....It will fall apart in 5 years then you can start all over again, with another round of Planning Bungs oops so sorry I meant applications....

I mean we are hardly whiter than white here...

1. We now have probably the worst Hospital trust in the country on record...the other lot cleaned their acts up, yet we get caught out again.

2. There where huge eye brow raising issues at VAF or FAF First SH*TE sorry Foresight no I mean Firstsite.

3. The scandal and fiasco at Street Services some years ago which is now carrying on into Parking Enforcement money collection issues.

4. Colchester Leisure world 1991 do you remember Sergeant & Potriardis...If not I can refresh the memories for all of us to read....

5. The local masonic lodges £125,000 which turned into £80,000. that donned a pair of shoe's and went for a walk.

6. Or what about the E 80,000 Euros that disappeared under the nose of the divisional commander at Essex Police Colchester station.

This are only half the stories that got to press I wont start on the quangos that went haywire in the Borough in the last 6 years...some of the former managers are now sitting on chairs of oversight committees.

When someone is indicating miscreant behaviour lets not all get hissy about it surely?

I FINK THIS SPELLS IT OUT MATE?
[quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jammin[/bold] wrote: A Taylor Wimpey spokesman was told under no uncertain terms by his Directors not to disclose how much money they want to make from this scheme, destroying as many of the restrictive existing buildings as possible to squeeze in more and more money making flats as possible. No doubt more of our history will be lost to line the pockets of developers and councilors, shameful. History will be forced to recall ruthless individuals and not our glorious buildings.[/p][/quote]Some further explanation of what you mean by more of our history will be lost to 'line the pockets' of councillors would be useful before I comment further.[/p][/quote]I think what the poster ....jammin....is indicating is that some of your colleagues could be miscreant or bent....is it not Mr Hunt? Well there is no point getting all craggy faced and tough about a remark from probably a quite robust and salacious member of this stalwart community. Lets face it we have not got too much to worry about here if its anything like the house they built for me....It will fall apart in 5 years then you can start all over again, with another round of Planning Bungs oops so sorry I meant applications.... I mean we are hardly whiter than white here... 1. We now have probably the worst Hospital trust in the country on record...the other lot cleaned their acts up, yet we get caught out again. 2. There where huge eye brow raising issues at VAF or FAF First SH*TE sorry Foresight no I mean Firstsite. 3. The scandal and fiasco at Street Services some years ago which is now carrying on into Parking Enforcement money collection issues. 4. Colchester Leisure world 1991 do you remember Sergeant & Potriardis...If not I can refresh the memories for all of us to read.... 5. The local masonic lodges £125,000 which turned into £80,000. that donned a pair of shoe's and went for a walk. 6. Or what about the E 80,000 Euros that disappeared under the nose of the divisional commander at Essex Police Colchester station. This are only half the stories that got to press I wont start on the quangos that went haywire in the Borough in the last 6 years...some of the former managers are now sitting on chairs of oversight committees. When someone is indicating miscreant behaviour lets not all get hissy about it surely? I FINK THIS SPELLS IT OUT MATE? treadstone
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