Essex police and crime commissioner Nick Alston asks for 3.5 per cent council tax increase

Gazette: Nick Alston Nick Alston

COUNCIL tax payers will be asked to fork out an extra 40p a month to help fund the county's police officers.

Newly-elected police and crime commissioner Nick Alston said the increase for policing, in the council tax precept, would amount to a £4.77 increase residents living in Band D homes would have to pay each year.

The hike is still yet to be agreed by the police and crime panel but it would help the force as it continues to make savings of £42million by 2014.

 

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11:30am Wed 23 Jan 13

perini says...

Start doing the job you are currently getting paid to do before asking for more money! Should be paid by results - that would be a cost-saver to the general public!
Start doing the job you are currently getting paid to do before asking for more money! Should be paid by results - that would be a cost-saver to the general public! perini
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12:03pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Eric Whim says...

40p a month isn't a fortune is it?

Whether or not it'd make any difference to the number of 'real' police officers on the beat (you're having a laugh.Ed.) or actually do anything to noticebly reduce crime is a different matter.

Still nice little addition to the coffers however you look at it.
40p a month isn't a fortune is it? Whether or not it'd make any difference to the number of 'real' police officers on the beat (you're having a laugh.Ed.) or actually do anything to noticebly reduce crime is a different matter. Still nice little addition to the coffers however you look at it. Eric Whim
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12:39pm Wed 23 Jan 13

micksmercs says...

I would rather give £4.77 for Jacks to stay open.It would be more use than the Essex Police with their them and us attitude.What will this newly elected hero do with the money,keep the old police pension fund topped perhaps?
I would rather give £4.77 for Jacks to stay open.It would be more use than the Essex Police with their them and us attitude.What will this newly elected hero do with the money,keep the old police pension fund topped perhaps? micksmercs
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12:45pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Rich2k says...

Eric Whim wrote:
40p a month isn't a fortune is it?

Whether or not it'd make any difference to the number of 'real' police officers on the beat (you're having a laugh.Ed.) or actually do anything to noticebly reduce crime is a different matter.

Still nice little addition to the coffers however you look at it.
No it's not a lot of money, however the problem is EVERYTHING is going up.

- Train fares go up
- Petrol goes up
- VAT up
- Energy Bills up
- Food prices up

- wages NOT up

At some point enough is enough, we can't afford for everything to keep going up without the means to pay for it
[quote][p][bold]Eric Whim[/bold] wrote: 40p a month isn't a fortune is it? Whether or not it'd make any difference to the number of 'real' police officers on the beat (you're having a laugh.Ed.) or actually do anything to noticebly reduce crime is a different matter. Still nice little addition to the coffers however you look at it.[/p][/quote]No it's not a lot of money, however the problem is EVERYTHING is going up. - Train fares go up - Petrol goes up - VAT up - Energy Bills up - Food prices up - wages NOT up At some point enough is enough, we can't afford for everything to keep going up without the means to pay for it Rich2k
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12:50pm Wed 23 Jan 13

itsmyopinionthatcounts says...

perini wrote:
Start doing the job you are currently getting paid to do before asking for more money! Should be paid by results - that would be a cost-saver to the general public!
Totally agree, I really cannot remember the last time I saw a "proper" beat bobby. All we seem to see now is community support officers.
[quote][p][bold]perini[/bold] wrote: Start doing the job you are currently getting paid to do before asking for more money! Should be paid by results - that would be a cost-saver to the general public![/p][/quote]Totally agree, I really cannot remember the last time I saw a "proper" beat bobby. All we seem to see now is community support officers. itsmyopinionthatcounts
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12:53pm Wed 23 Jan 13

rhetoric says...

Agree with perini that they should be paid by results!
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It was my first thought when I saw the news item.
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There should be a basic rate to start, then any increments could be results-led.
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Maybe there could be an element to take into account their attitude to and respect for the general public? Loutishness at off-duty times could bring a decrease.
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Agree with perini that they should be paid by results! . It was my first thought when I saw the news item. . There should be a basic rate to start, then any increments could be results-led. . Maybe there could be an element to take into account their attitude to and respect for the general public? Loutishness at off-duty times could bring a decrease. . rhetoric
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2:05pm Wed 23 Jan 13

mirokou says...

Plenty of Police , just a high percentage are hiding in about 20 or so different departments working Mon -Fri 9-5

Dont need any more money Mr Allston just be aware of how they manipulate their budgets and direct the budgets yourself. A firearms team 3rd largest in country ? One the largest vehicle fleets in the country?
Actually walk in one day to a few stations and see how many are actually responding to the general public calls. You may be in for a shock.
Plenty of Police , just a high percentage are hiding in about 20 or so different departments working Mon -Fri 9-5 Dont need any more money Mr Allston just be aware of how they manipulate their budgets and direct the budgets yourself. A firearms team 3rd largest in country ? One the largest vehicle fleets in the country? Actually walk in one day to a few stations and see how many are actually responding to the general public calls. You may be in for a shock. mirokou
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2:17pm Wed 23 Jan 13

SpiffSpaffington1984 says...

sorry but they've laid-off half the force and closed half the stations, i thought that was supposed to save us money?
sorry but they've laid-off half the force and closed half the stations, i thought that was supposed to save us money? SpiffSpaffington1984
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2:23pm Wed 23 Jan 13

sKorch says...

They got a 3.5% rise in Council Tax last Year and I don't see any improvement, so how are they going to waste THIS increase I wonder????
They got a 3.5% rise in Council Tax last Year and I don't see any improvement, so how are they going to waste THIS increase I wonder???? sKorch
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2:44pm Wed 23 Jan 13

mr_happy says...

Yes, he can afford it on his salary.....
Yes, he can afford it on his salary..... mr_happy
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4:21pm Wed 23 Jan 13

firedog says...

Must say although I have a great respect for the police,I agree with most of the comments above,some just shine
the seat of their uniform trousers.
Must say although I have a great respect for the police,I agree with most of the comments above,some just shine the seat of their uniform trousers. firedog
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4:48pm Wed 23 Jan 13

brain1 says...

How can you complain he was democratically elected by 8% of the electorate and has a clear mandate to govern.???????
This was Camerons plan and we deserve what we get.
Think only another 4 years and we can get rid of him
How can you complain he was democratically elected by 8% of the electorate and has a clear mandate to govern.??????? This was Camerons plan and we deserve what we get. Think only another 4 years and we can get rid of him brain1
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5:58pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Nebs says...

Payment by results, the police should be able to keep half of any proceeds of crime to add to their budget. Crime will then drop to a manageable level as the police will get more money when there is more crime (that they solve) and less money when there is less crime.
Payment by results, the police should be able to keep half of any proceeds of crime to add to their budget. Crime will then drop to a manageable level as the police will get more money when there is more crime (that they solve) and less money when there is less crime. Nebs
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6:12pm Wed 23 Jan 13

jim_bo says...

Now that's a great idea Nebs.

Forces might get out and start tackling real crime.
Now that's a great idea Nebs. Forces might get out and start tackling real crime. jim_bo
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6:38pm Wed 23 Jan 13

iknowbetter says...

Nebs wrote:
Payment by results, the police should be able to keep half of any proceeds of crime to add to their budget. Crime will then drop to a manageable level as the police will get more money when there is more crime (that they solve) and less money when there is less crime.
Great idea Nebs but the fundamental floor in this idea is the police will then concentrate on targeting crime that has value to them and not so much on anti social behaviour for example or burglary, Car crime etc. Crimes that matter to ordinary folk.
Eric Whim is right, its not alot of money but the problems I have are will there still be cuts? Someone already said it, 3,5% increase last year but instead of seeing improvements we see cuts, Fire service cuts for example, police stations closing is another. So where last years increase go? whats to say any further increase wont go the same way?. If I'm asked to agree with parting with my hard earned then I would want assurances the money goes where it will do some good.
[quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: Payment by results, the police should be able to keep half of any proceeds of crime to add to their budget. Crime will then drop to a manageable level as the police will get more money when there is more crime (that they solve) and less money when there is less crime.[/p][/quote]Great idea Nebs but the fundamental floor in this idea is the police will then concentrate on targeting crime that has value to them and not so much on anti social behaviour for example or burglary, Car crime etc. Crimes that matter to ordinary folk. Eric Whim is right, its not alot of money but the problems I have are will there still be cuts? Someone already said it, 3,5% increase last year but instead of seeing improvements we see cuts, Fire service cuts for example, police stations closing is another. So where last years increase go? whats to say any further increase wont go the same way?. If I'm asked to agree with parting with my hard earned then I would want assurances the money goes where it will do some good. iknowbetter
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7:00pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Grabber says...

Do we need a crime commissioner ? I say no and use his salary for something useful.
Do we need a crime commissioner ? I say no and use his salary for something useful. Grabber
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7:20pm Wed 23 Jan 13

John T Pharro says...

I have never claimed to being bright, but how does paying more save money?
I have never claimed to being bright, but how does paying more save money? John T Pharro
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7:27pm Wed 23 Jan 13

GrumpyofLeigh says...

John T: it saves THEM because they get others to pay for it. Sadly, for you and I when the credit card bill hits the mat, passing it to someone else is not a luxury we can indulge in.
But for all of the chat above, where do we get our chance to contribute to the debate on policing priorities (given we pay for it)?
John T: it saves THEM because they get others to pay for it. Sadly, for you and I when the credit card bill hits the mat, passing it to someone else is not a luxury we can indulge in. But for all of the chat above, where do we get our chance to contribute to the debate on policing priorities (given we pay for it)? GrumpyofLeigh
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7:49pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Nebs says...

It doesn't matter how much we throw at the police. While the judges keep sending the villains home with a slapped wrist them crime will continue to rise.
It doesn't matter how much we throw at the police. While the judges keep sending the villains home with a slapped wrist them crime will continue to rise. Nebs
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10:11pm Wed 23 Jan 13

kris H says...

I just don't get why we should have to fork out yet another 40p, on top of all the other bills we are having to pay.
They are asking more money from us. Yet they are taking more and more money as so called wages and bonuses.
I think that it is time that those commissioners and councillor's take a massif pay cut to fund the crime stoppers.
The police can do a lot more too. More out on the streets and a lot less admin. Leave that to outside team of people to do. Then they can be out there getting on with the job of stopping crime
I just don't get why we should have to fork out yet another 40p, on top of all the other bills we are having to pay. They are asking more money from us. Yet they are taking more and more money as so called wages and bonuses. I think that it is time that those commissioners and councillor's take a massif pay cut to fund the crime stoppers. The police can do a lot more too. More out on the streets and a lot less admin. Leave that to outside team of people to do. Then they can be out there getting on with the job of stopping crime kris H
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10:49pm Wed 23 Jan 13

paulzone says...

Give the police more and solicitors less, legal aid must cost more than police budget.. Where does all the money for fines go ? How much do judges earn ?
Give the police more and solicitors less, legal aid must cost more than police budget.. Where does all the money for fines go ? How much do judges earn ? paulzone
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11:06pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Stoko66 says...

The Police are complete waste of time! I got attacked 2 years ago and the Police turned up 3 days later! My business premises got burgled, Police turned up after I complained to the paper, our cars got trashed, Police came a day later, they were supplied with the names of suspects, they had definate DNA, never even questioned suspects. The list is endless if you ask the public! All you get is a crime ref No.
And, this a big and! If they do manage to Nick any one it is the wrong person, or they **** up the paperwork and they go free. Failing that the justice system slaps their wrists! An example is the foreign cabbie that gets done for rape and gets ONLY 8 years!
The Police are complete waste of time! I got attacked 2 years ago and the Police turned up 3 days later! My business premises got burgled, Police turned up after I complained to the paper, our cars got trashed, Police came a day later, they were supplied with the names of suspects, they had definate DNA, never even questioned suspects. The list is endless if you ask the public! All you get is a crime ref No. And, this a big and! If they do manage to Nick any one it is the wrong person, or they **** up the paperwork and they go free. Failing that the justice system slaps their wrists! An example is the foreign cabbie that gets done for rape and gets ONLY 8 years! Stoko66
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12:03am Thu 24 Jan 13

Southend65 says...

Let's get this straight.

Within weeks of starting in his £85k a year post (+ perks) the New Crime Commissioner has the gall to suggest that council taxpayers pay extra to fund police officers.

Would it not be better for him to resign from his post and spend the money saved on his salary, office and perks on proper police doing proper work?

After all, we managed to do without this guy for years.

And having a Crime Commissioner called Nick just makes be laugh :3)
Let's get this straight. Within weeks of starting in his £85k a year post (+ perks) the New Crime Commissioner has the gall to suggest that council taxpayers pay extra to fund police officers. Would it not be better for him to resign from his post and spend the money saved on his salary, office and perks on proper police doing proper work? After all, we managed to do without this guy for years. And having a Crime Commissioner called Nick just makes be laugh :3) Southend65
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1:12pm Thu 24 Jan 13

knobwash says...

The public have little or no faith in the police now. We DO NOT need a police and crime commissioner. It is a publicly funded NON job highly paif' index linked pension plus perks. It will be a disaster. As for the new idiot appointed how out of touch can you be. Austerity meaures' double dip recession high unemployment of course this idiot says rais council tax lets make the public suffer even more. Strange the government advises a freeze on council tax did this idiot mss that announcement
The public have little or no faith in the police now. We DO NOT need a police and crime commissioner. It is a publicly funded NON job highly paif' index linked pension plus perks. It will be a disaster. As for the new idiot appointed how out of touch can you be. Austerity meaures' double dip recession high unemployment of course this idiot says rais council tax lets make the public suffer even more. Strange the government advises a freeze on council tax did this idiot mss that announcement knobwash
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1:16pm Thu 24 Jan 13

wellnow says...

Payment by results? That should apply
To col u as well.
Payment by results? That should apply To col u as well. wellnow
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1:16pm Thu 24 Jan 13

knobwash says...

Just a small point we already pay for policing through our Council Tax the portion which goes to Essex County Council why pay a second time
Just a small point we already pay for policing through our Council Tax the portion which goes to Essex County Council why pay a second time knobwash
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1:24pm Thu 24 Jan 13

knobwash says...

Police 25℅ of the police force inessex are currently on long term sick and suspension rectify that and you can solve the problem of manning
Police 25℅ of the police force inessex are currently on long term sick and suspension rectify that and you can solve the problem of manning knobwash
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5:17pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Stoko66 says...

knobwash wrote:
Police 25℅ of the police force inessex are currently on long term sick and suspension rectify that and you can solve the problem of manning
Where do you get these stats knob? Want to look into this further...
[quote][p][bold]knobwash[/bold] wrote: Police 25℅ of the police force inessex are currently on long term sick and suspension rectify that and you can solve the problem of manning[/p][/quote]Where do you get these stats knob? Want to look into this further... Stoko66
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4:03pm Fri 25 Jan 13

fletch12107 says...

If we are going to be asked for 40p can we say NO?
If we are going to be asked for 40p can we say NO? fletch12107
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5:31pm Fri 25 Jan 13

Soouthchurch59 says...

Attempted robbery!
Attempted robbery! Soouthchurch59
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10:09pm Fri 25 Jan 13

jolllyboy says...

Okay and lets do the same to keep blood tests in Southend !
Okay and lets do the same to keep blood tests in Southend ! jolllyboy
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12:39pm Sun 27 Jan 13

stopmoaning1 says...

knobwash wrote:
Police 25℅ of the police force inessex are currently on long term sick and suspension rectify that and you can solve the problem of manning
Ah, knobwash, I see you are one of these people who like to jump on the bandwagon and spout off without checking your facts first.
Read your Council Tax bill. It explains how the money is allocated. You will see that there are two completely separate allocations for Essex Police Authority and Essex Fire Authority. This is where the proposed increase is. We are NOT being asked to pay TWICE
Secondly, 25% of the police off long term sick or suspended. REALLY? If you are confident with this figure YOU have put into the public domain, brave up and explain where you got the figures from so they can be verified.
If everything you have said was correct, we would all agree and support you. Instead, you have made a public fool of yourself
[quote][p][bold]knobwash[/bold] wrote: Police 25℅ of the police force inessex are currently on long term sick and suspension rectify that and you can solve the problem of manning[/p][/quote]Ah, knobwash, I see you are one of these people who like to jump on the bandwagon and spout off without checking your facts first. Read your Council Tax bill. It explains how the money is allocated. You will see that there are two completely separate allocations for Essex Police Authority and Essex Fire Authority. This is where the proposed increase is. We are NOT being asked to pay TWICE Secondly, 25% of the police off long term sick or suspended. REALLY? If you are confident with this figure YOU have put into the public domain, brave up and explain where you got the figures from so they can be verified. If everything you have said was correct, we would all agree and support you. Instead, you have made a public fool of yourself stopmoaning1
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12:40pm Sun 27 Jan 13

stopmoaning1 says...

knobwash wrote:
Just a small point we already pay for policing through our Council Tax the portion which goes to Essex County Council why pay a second time
Ah, I see you are one of these people who like to jump on the bandwagon and spout off without checking your facts first.
Read your Council Tax bill. It explains how the money is allocated. You will see that there are two completely separate allocations for Essex Police Authority and Essex Fire Authority. This is where the proposed increase is. We are NOT being asked to pay TWICE
Secondly, 25% of the police off long term sick or suspended. REALLY? If you are confident with this figure YOU have put into the public domain, brave up and explain where you got the figures from so they can be verified.
If everything you have said was correct, we would all agree and support you. Instead, you have made a public fool of yourself
[quote][p][bold]knobwash[/bold] wrote: Just a small point we already pay for policing through our Council Tax the portion which goes to Essex County Council why pay a second time[/p][/quote]Ah, I see you are one of these people who like to jump on the bandwagon and spout off without checking your facts first. Read your Council Tax bill. It explains how the money is allocated. You will see that there are two completely separate allocations for Essex Police Authority and Essex Fire Authority. This is where the proposed increase is. We are NOT being asked to pay TWICE Secondly, 25% of the police off long term sick or suspended. REALLY? If you are confident with this figure YOU have put into the public domain, brave up and explain where you got the figures from so they can be verified. If everything you have said was correct, we would all agree and support you. Instead, you have made a public fool of yourself stopmoaning1
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3:42pm Sun 27 Jan 13

maddriver says...

itsmyopinionthatcoun
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perini wrote:
Start doing the job you are currently getting paid to do before asking for more money! Should be paid by results - that would be a cost-saver to the general public!
Totally agree, I really cannot remember the last time I saw a "proper" beat bobby. All we seem to see now is community support officers.
The old idea of the 'bobby on the beat' is long gone. Modern policing is totally different. The leg work is now done by PCSOs because it is cheaper and they only work daytimes and are not required to do any overtime or extra work.
We will never see PCs back on the beat because that isn't how modern policing works.
[quote][p][bold]itsmyopinionthatcoun ts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]perini[/bold] wrote: Start doing the job you are currently getting paid to do before asking for more money! Should be paid by results - that would be a cost-saver to the general public![/p][/quote]Totally agree, I really cannot remember the last time I saw a "proper" beat bobby. All we seem to see now is community support officers.[/p][/quote]The old idea of the 'bobby on the beat' is long gone. Modern policing is totally different. The leg work is now done by PCSOs because it is cheaper and they only work daytimes and are not required to do any overtime or extra work. We will never see PCs back on the beat because that isn't how modern policing works. maddriver
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5:11am Mon 28 Jan 13

pendulum says...

Alson's dad was a police officer and this is mainly why I didn't vote for him. I suspected he'd be too much for acting in the interests of the Police and not enough for acting in the interests of the Public. Nothing he has done so far has changed my opinion of him.

On the other hand, the Police generally do a good job, but their efforts are wasted because the career criminals they catch don't get sent to prison. They're free to reoffend time after time and create much work for the Police (and many victims out of the public). Let's take the strain off the Police and lock up career criminals for many years.
Alson's dad was a police officer and this is mainly why I didn't vote for him. I suspected he'd be too much for acting in the interests of the Police and not enough for acting in the interests of the Public. Nothing he has done so far has changed my opinion of him. On the other hand, the Police generally do a good job, but their efforts are wasted because the career criminals they catch don't get sent to prison. They're free to reoffend time after time and create much work for the Police (and many victims out of the public). Let's take the strain off the Police and lock up career criminals for many years. pendulum
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4:26pm Mon 28 Jan 13

stopmoaning1 says...

pendulum wrote:
Alson's dad was a police officer and this is mainly why I didn't vote for him. I suspected he'd be too much for acting in the interests of the Police and not enough for acting in the interests of the Public. Nothing he has done so far has changed my opinion of him.

On the other hand, the Police generally do a good job, but their efforts are wasted because the career criminals they catch don't get sent to prison. They're free to reoffend time after time and create much work for the Police (and many victims out of the public). Let's take the strain off the Police and lock up career criminals for many years.
Didn’t vote for him because his dad was a police officer around thirty years ago. Unbelievably highbrow logic. Well done
[quote][p][bold]pendulum[/bold] wrote: Alson's dad was a police officer and this is mainly why I didn't vote for him. I suspected he'd be too much for acting in the interests of the Police and not enough for acting in the interests of the Public. Nothing he has done so far has changed my opinion of him. On the other hand, the Police generally do a good job, but their efforts are wasted because the career criminals they catch don't get sent to prison. They're free to reoffend time after time and create much work for the Police (and many victims out of the public). Let's take the strain off the Police and lock up career criminals for many years.[/p][/quote]Didn’t vote for him because his dad was a police officer around thirty years ago. Unbelievably highbrow logic. Well done stopmoaning1
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10:53am Tue 29 Jan 13

Shoebury_Cyclist says...

perini wrote:
Start doing the job you are currently getting paid to do before asking for more money! Should be paid by results - that would be a cost-saver to the general public!
That would create a downward spiral. The police are under-manned as it is. They cannot respond to every call. To implement results related funding means their results ratio falls, so their funding falls, meaning less policing, fewer results, less funding, less policing, fewer results, less funding… and so on.
[quote][p][bold]perini[/bold] wrote: Start doing the job you are currently getting paid to do before asking for more money! Should be paid by results - that would be a cost-saver to the general public![/p][/quote]That would create a downward spiral. The police are under-manned as it is. They cannot respond to every call. To implement results related funding means their results ratio falls, so their funding falls, meaning less policing, fewer results, less funding, less policing, fewer results, less funding… and so on. Shoebury_Cyclist
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12:23am Wed 30 Jan 13

Nebs says...

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
perini wrote:
Start doing the job you are currently getting paid to do before asking for more money! Should be paid by results - that would be a cost-saver to the general public!
That would create a downward spiral. The police are under-manned as it is. They cannot respond to every call. To implement results related funding means their results ratio falls, so their funding falls, meaning less policing, fewer results, less funding, less policing, fewer results, less funding… and so on.
Could equally be an upward spiral, spend a few days nicking cars with no insurance and cyclists with no lights, results up, more funding, more police, etc.
[quote][p][bold]Shoebury_Cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]perini[/bold] wrote: Start doing the job you are currently getting paid to do before asking for more money! Should be paid by results - that would be a cost-saver to the general public![/p][/quote]That would create a downward spiral. The police are under-manned as it is. They cannot respond to every call. To implement results related funding means their results ratio falls, so their funding falls, meaning less policing, fewer results, less funding, less policing, fewer results, less funding… and so on.[/p][/quote]Could equally be an upward spiral, spend a few days nicking cars with no insurance and cyclists with no lights, results up, more funding, more police, etc. Nebs
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7:53am Wed 30 Jan 13

Shoebury_Cyclist says...

Nebs wrote:
Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
perini wrote:
Start doing the job you are currently getting paid to do before asking for more money! Should be paid by results - that would be a cost-saver to the general public!
That would create a downward spiral. The police are under-manned as it is. They cannot respond to every call. To implement results related funding means their results ratio falls, so their funding falls, meaning less policing, fewer results, less funding, less policing, fewer results, less funding… and so on.
Could equally be an upward spiral, spend a few days nicking cars with no insurance and cyclists with no lights, results up, more funding, more police, etc.
For a real results boost they could book every motorist parked on a pavement in the Southend area.
[quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoebury_Cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]perini[/bold] wrote: Start doing the job you are currently getting paid to do before asking for more money! Should be paid by results - that would be a cost-saver to the general public![/p][/quote]That would create a downward spiral. The police are under-manned as it is. They cannot respond to every call. To implement results related funding means their results ratio falls, so their funding falls, meaning less policing, fewer results, less funding, less policing, fewer results, less funding… and so on.[/p][/quote]Could equally be an upward spiral, spend a few days nicking cars with no insurance and cyclists with no lights, results up, more funding, more police, etc.[/p][/quote]For a real results boost they could book every motorist parked on a pavement in the Southend area. Shoebury_Cyclist
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4:41pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Stoko66 says...

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
Nebs wrote:
Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
perini wrote:
Start doing the job you are currently getting paid to do before asking for more money! Should be paid by results - that would be a cost-saver to the general public!
That would create a downward spiral. The police are under-manned as it is. They cannot respond to every call. To implement results related funding means their results ratio falls, so their funding falls, meaning less policing, fewer results, less funding, less policing, fewer results, less funding… and so on.
Could equally be an upward spiral, spend a few days nicking cars with no insurance and cyclists with no lights, results up, more funding, more police, etc.
For a real results boost they could book every motorist parked on a pavement in the Southend area.
For a real boost that will gain public faith in the old bill. Nick some REAL criminals!
The judicial system and could help by giving worthwhile sentences! !!
Making it worth while for the Police to arrest real crooks!
[quote][p][bold]Shoebury_Cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoebury_Cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]perini[/bold] wrote: Start doing the job you are currently getting paid to do before asking for more money! Should be paid by results - that would be a cost-saver to the general public![/p][/quote]That would create a downward spiral. The police are under-manned as it is. They cannot respond to every call. To implement results related funding means their results ratio falls, so their funding falls, meaning less policing, fewer results, less funding, less policing, fewer results, less funding… and so on.[/p][/quote]Could equally be an upward spiral, spend a few days nicking cars with no insurance and cyclists with no lights, results up, more funding, more police, etc.[/p][/quote]For a real results boost they could book every motorist parked on a pavement in the Southend area.[/p][/quote]For a real boost that will gain public faith in the old bill. Nick some REAL criminals! The judicial system and could help by giving worthwhile sentences! !! Making it worth while for the Police to arrest real crooks! Stoko66
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