Climate warriors urge shoppers to join the revolution (From Gazette)

Yes there is climate change, no it isn't caused by mankind! It's been happening for millions of years & will continue for many more after we're all dead & gone. It's the new religion which is also another good way to dip into peoples pockets. If Ms Westwood was so concerned then it must have been one hell of a bike ride for her to get to Colchester from her home many miles away? & how are her clothes distributed? by donkey? the sea & rotting vegetation produce around 770 gigatons of Co2 per year & humans around 6, who's the bigger culprit? So, what we gonna do? tax the sea? Tax the leaves on the trees?

I await comments of herecy :o)

Climate Warriors! They all need a good wash and something serious to worry about.

Jess Jephcott wrote:
Climate Warriors! They all need a good wash and something serious to worry about.

They're working for Lush, Jess, a cosmetics store (which is using this issue to sell a few more bars of soap). I really can't imagine personal hygiene being an issue. Always best to read the story before commenting.

Taximan01 wrote:
Yes there is climate change, no it isn't caused by mankind! It's been happening for millions of years & will continue for many more after we're all dead & gone. It's the new religion which is also another good way to dip into peoples pockets. If Ms Westwood was so concerned then it must have been one hell of a bike ride for her to get to Colchester from her home many miles away? & how are her clothes distributed? by donkey? the sea & rotting vegetation produce around 770 gigatons of Co2 per year & humans around 6, who's the bigger culprit? So, what we gonna do? tax the sea? Tax the leaves on the trees?

I await comments of herecy :o)

Well done on this. There was me noting that the scientific community had an overwhelming consensus on this. But what do these scientists know?! My opinions are so much better informed by the anonymous ramblings of the clueless on the Gazette website, rather than listening to experts, quite clearly.

Well said Taximan - at last some common sense brought to this debate. Despite what some would have you believe there is no "consensus" among scientists on the issue - in fact proponents such as the IPCC have had to fabricate evidence to support their spurious claims of "global warming". Since the supporters of this ridiculous premise could not prove that in fact man made activities were warming the planet they quickly changed the debate to one of "climate change". As you stated the climate changes continually and is impacted far more by naturally occurring phenomena (solar flares for example) than anything human beings contribute. This is just another hysterical clamouring of the liberal left to dip into our pockets one more time in pursuit of their radical social agenda.

USAbloke wrote:
Well said Taximan - at last some common sense brought to this debate. Despite what some would have you believe there is no "consensus" among scientists on the issue - in fact proponents such as the IPCC have had to fabricate evidence to support their spurious claims of "global warming". Since the supporters of this ridiculous premise could not prove that in fact man made activities were warming the planet they quickly changed the debate to one of "climate change". As you stated the climate changes continually and is impacted far more by naturally occurring phenomena (solar flares for example) than anything human beings contribute. This is just another hysterical clamouring of the liberal left to dip into our pockets one more time in pursuit of their radical social agenda.

Outside of research funded by the oil lobby, there is overwhelming consensus. Sorry, but that's just an unavoidable fact. Unfortunately, your sort of hyperbole has the same scientific basis, as a search for fairies at the bottom of your garden.

That all said, I'm not convinced that climate change is the most pressing environmental concern. Resource depletion may well be the bigger worry. But while of course the likes of Lush can pretend to be 'green' on climate change, a capitalist enterprise can hardly get its head round the fact that infinite expansion (a fundamental of capitalism) is impossible within a finite space (planet Earth).

The world has always been constantly changing and so has its climate, but it seems to me probable that humankind with its pollution and use of the world’s resources is a contributor to recent change.
We are going to run out of fuel long before we can do significant damage however. If no significant new method of using energy is developed we can all look forward to living in caves.
I take your point Smith W that the economic system needs perpetual economic growth. It is true because growth is required to pay the interest on debt that is raised as capital. It is also true however that in any decent society, which doesn’t allow people to come to harm, the population will continuously increase placing more and more pressure on finite resources.
Innovation and scientific progress is the only real solution.

Research Agenda 21. They have plans for us all. Not good plans either. Climate change is their catalyse to implement Agenda 21.

Field Marshal Sprocket wrote:
Research Agenda 21. They have plans for us all. Not good plans either. Climate change is their catalyse to implement Agenda 21.

Well, there was me worrying about the dismantling of the NHS, being dominated by an Eton educated elite that wants to turn the UK into China, but no, our oppression comes from some half-baked, wishy-washy, liberal, idea, that nobody has even mentioned for 20 years. Alex Jones is obviously right. Let's all go and buy a gun! Quick!

Bobby Walker wrote:
The world has always been constantly changing and so has its climate, but it seems to me probable that humankind with its pollution and use of the world’s resources is a contributor to recent change.
We are going to run out of fuel long before we can do significant damage however. If no significant new method of using energy is developed we can all look forward to living in caves.
I take your point Smith W that the economic system needs perpetual economic growth. It is true because growth is required to pay the interest on debt that is raised as capital. It is also true however that in any decent society, which doesn’t allow people to come to harm, the population will continuously increase placing more and more pressure on finite resources.
Innovation and scientific progress is the only real solution.

Research and innovation, spot on. But there is also a little matter of how we choose to organise ourselves. Politicians like to pretend that economics is like the weather, out of the hands of human beings. But that is obviously wrong.