Residents rally against KFC (From Gazette)

Typical NIMBYS this has got nothing to do with the impression it gives of the town they just don't want it on their doorstep. I will say the location is a strange one I'd have thought alongside the garage and M&S near the stadium would have been a better option.

A wrong impression? What large town in the uk or the world for that matter doesn't have fast food restraints.
Residential, well behind it is the towns business park, next to it is a hotel and restaurant, opposite it is a couple of large car sales rooms and just down the road a huge storage company and a load more care sales, come on get real.

Dillinga wrote:
Typical NIMBYS this has got nothing to do with the impression it gives of the town they just don't want it on their doorstep. I will say the location is a strange one I'd have thought alongside the garage and M&S near the stadium would have been a better option.

I would agree. Definitely a case of not on my doorstep. And this area is more industrial than residential. At least it isn't another McDonald s

Wrong impression?

Drive 200 yards further down the road and you'll see Lancasters, that gives the impression of a smart & tidy town. Drive into the town centre and you'll see that impression is shattered.

People don´t really base their impressions of a town on whether there is a drive-through KFC on the edge. As it happens, despite what we often say on these boards, a lot of people who come to Colchester enjoy it and think it´s a good place.

Personally, I´d rather be impaled with a sharp stick than eat KFC/McD/BK, but people choose to eat it, and I don´t think objecting based on the image of the town is a very valid reason.

I don´t suppose I´d be overly happy if they wanted to stick up a KFC opposite me either, but I think any objection would need to be based on traffic, smell or litter.

On the subject of KFC - who the **** is responsible for painting the front of KFC's outlet in Colchester High Street?

Look's like someone has hurled a tin of blue ( red is the corporate colour ) paint from the rooftop of Willy Gee's.

drive though kfc, good choice,please NO more Mc Ds

I live close to the site and look forward to it, will be handy.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but I read a short while ago in The Standard that there was a bid for which fast food chain would go next to the M&S on the A12 and McDonalds won so I'm sure you will see it appear soon(ish). Personally, the KFC in town is so badly managed, my orders are always wrong & there is no where to park that I'm quite pleased to see an out of town one.

tizwaz wrote:
drive though kfc, good choice,please NO more Mc Ds

MMM I Also live not to far from hear and look forward to KFC we have to many Mc Donalds in colchester.

Take away's are fine, just as long as the people that use them, take the liitter home instead of chucking it out along the road. Clacton is a fine example of what happens when you have a Mcdonalds and Kentucky along the the main routes into the town. The litter on the A133 is cleared up by litter pickers during the week,then after the weekends you wonder what the hell has hit you. You ask the councilors to supply litter bins and it falls on deaf ears. Anyway lets be fair about it Colchester is a sh-t hole so it will do nothing to enchance what a dump it already is.

crazy comments wrote:
Take away's are fine, just as long as the people that use them, take the liitter home instead of chucking it out along the road. Clacton is a fine example of what happens when you have a Mcdonalds and Kentucky along the the main routes into the town. The litter on the A133 is cleared up by litter pickers during the week,then after the weekends you wonder what the hell has hit you. You ask the councilors to supply litter bins and it falls on deaf ears. Anyway lets be fair about it Colchester is a sh-t hole so it will do nothing to enchance what a dump it already is.

With you on the litter issue. Fast food places such as these use far too much packaging to start with. The way round it: put a deposit on the packaging. Of course, no way any of the fast food places want that, because then they have to dispose of the waste.

People who care little enough about themselves to live on fast food rubbish don´t seem to care that much about litter or the world around them. It seems to work that way.

I don´t agree that Colchester is a sh-t hole, though. People who visit me here really like the place, and normally want to come back to see more.

romantic wrote:

crazy comments wrote:
Take away's are fine, just as long as the people that use them, take the liitter home instead of chucking it out along the road. Clacton is a fine example of what happens when you have a Mcdonalds and Kentucky along the the main routes into the town. The litter on the A133 is cleared up by litter pickers during the week,then after the weekends you wonder what the hell has hit you. You ask the councilors to supply litter bins and it falls on deaf ears. Anyway lets be fair about it Colchester is a sh-t hole so it will do nothing to enchance what a dump it already is.

With you on the litter issue. Fast food places such as these use far too much packaging to start with. The way round it: put a deposit on the packaging. Of course, no way any of the fast food places want that, because then they have to dispose of the waste.

People who care little enough about themselves to live on fast food rubbish don´t seem to care that much about litter or the world around them. It seems to work that way.

I don´t agree that Colchester is a sh-t hole, though. People who visit me here really like the place, and normally want to come back to see more.

As so often, romantic is right. A deposit on fast food packaging would be the answer. £1 for every box, £1 for every cup, £1 for every cup lid. All items to bear the chain's logo. £1000 fine for any shop found to be selling food and drink in plain containers, and closure for a second offence.
But this would require national legislation and it is not going to happen.

goldgirlrowe wrote:
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but I read a short while ago in The Standard that there was a bid for which fast food chain would go next to the M&S on the A12 and McDonalds won so I'm sure you will see it appear soon(ish). Personally, the KFC in town is so badly managed, my orders are always wrong & there is no where to park that I'm quite pleased to see an out of town one.

I agree goldgirlrowe, I haven't used high street one in a long, long time, orders mostly wrong and English language is terrible, I either drive to Clacton, Ipswich ( near ASDA) or Sudbury depends where I am working when I fancy one. . . Nothing against foreign staff or owners, but if they can't understand English language and get orders wrong, why would we go back ?

Boris wrote:

romantic wrote:

crazy comments wrote: Take away's are fine, just as long as the people that use them, take the liitter home instead of chucking it out along the road. Clacton is a fine example of what happens when you have a Mcdonalds and Kentucky along the the main routes into the town. The litter on the A133 is cleared up by litter pickers during the week,then after the weekends you wonder what the hell has hit you. You ask the councilors to supply litter bins and it falls on deaf ears. Anyway lets be fair about it Colchester is a sh-t hole so it will do nothing to enchance what a dump it already is.

With you on the litter issue. Fast food places such as these use far too much packaging to start with. The way round it: put a deposit on the packaging. Of course, no way any of the fast food places want that, because then they have to dispose of the waste. People who care little enough about themselves to live on fast food rubbish don´t seem to care that much about litter or the world around them. It seems to work that way. I don´t agree that Colchester is a sh-t hole, though. People who visit me here really like the place, and normally want to come back to see more.

As so often, romantic is right. A deposit on fast food packaging would be the answer. £1 for every box, £1 for every cup, £1 for every cup lid. All items to bear the chain's logo. £1000 fine for any shop found to be selling food and drink in plain containers, and closure for a second offence. But this would require national legislation and it is not going to happen.

Brilliant idea Boris.

crazy comments wrote:

Boris wrote:

romantic wrote:

crazy comments wrote: Take away's are fine, just as long as the people that use them, take the liitter home instead of chucking it out along the road. Clacton is a fine example of what happens when you have a Mcdonalds and Kentucky along the the main routes into the town. The litter on the A133 is cleared up by litter pickers during the week,then after the weekends you wonder what the hell has hit you. You ask the councilors to supply litter bins and it falls on deaf ears. Anyway lets be fair about it Colchester is a sh-t hole so it will do nothing to enchance what a dump it already is.

With you on the litter issue. Fast food places such as these use far too much packaging to start with. The way round it: put a deposit on the packaging. Of course, no way any of the fast food places want that, because then they have to dispose of the waste. People who care little enough about themselves to live on fast food rubbish don´t seem to care that much about litter or the world around them. It seems to work that way. I don´t agree that Colchester is a sh-t hole, though. People who visit me here really like the place, and normally want to come back to see more.

As so often, romantic is right. A deposit on fast food packaging would be the answer. £1 for every box, £1 for every cup, £1 for every cup lid. All items to bear the chain's logo. £1000 fine for any shop found to be selling food and drink in plain containers, and closure for a second offence. But this would require national legislation and it is not going to happen.

Brilliant idea Boris.

For the record, I do not eat at the places mentioned (KFC, MCD, BK and KFC) and neither do my children but how exactly would this ' deposit ' idea work ?

Surely the entire concept of these food outlets is to purchase 'fast' food to take out / take away to be eaten at your own convenience away from the store so how exactly would placing a deposit on their packaging work. Surely it would mean you would have to go back to the outlet to get your deposit back. I do order Indian, Thai etc takeaways that are delivered so does that mean I then have to take the packaging back the next day to get a deposit back ?

Also, would the same rules then not apply to any drink / food item purchased in any supermarket / garage / corner store / coffee shop that can be eaten immediately ? It would not work.

My view is that people need to be educated. Either not to eat at these places or if they do, to dispose of their litter in an environmentally friendly way.

I agree there needs to be less packaging but are not some of the supermarkets we all shop at not worse than some of the take away outlets mentioned ?

Changing the subject slightly, with three young chrilden this Christmas the way some of their toys were packaged would have given Boris a coronary !!!

Yendor, you are right that there is far too much packaging on many products. It is not something limited only to fast food, but the thing is that it seems to be fast food packaging that ends up on the street. If you wander through town in the early hours, it´s quite a mess.

The point of the deposit system is that it would make people think about what they throw away. If they do still chuck it in the street, somebody else can pick it up and claim the deposit back. I´m far from sure of what the precise details would be, but if you give an incentive to keep the place clean, it would be far more effective than a vague threat of being fined for littering which is never enforced in the evening anyway.

In principle, perhaps a way could be found to do something similar for other waste, perhaps even to the extent that people get paid to recycle. (On the basis that less general waste means less cost for the landfill site). They used to have the deposits on bottles, and as kids, we made sure those bottles went back!

And when we cashed in the bottles we purchased sweets and crisps. How many of those wrappers found their way in the bin ?

My point is that I do not believe you could realistically introduce a deposit system that would stop the dropping of litter - be it from a fast food chain or other.

As for the litter in the town in the early hours, I suspect the intoxicated people who drop this are not really interested in going back for a refund on their packaging.

Happy new year saddos

Wouldn't the fact that it is going to give the town more jobs, the kfc in town is hard to get to, you cant park, they never have what you want ready to go, and the staff are useless, whats the difference between a kfc drive thru, and a hotel, restrurant, car sales garages, and an industrial estate, nothing, its just silly complaining about something like this, kfc have the money this town needs, bad image i dont think so, the burglaries, and murders do that!! Not a place to eat!!

Does anyone know if its a different franchise owner who is applying ? . . Otherwise if its the same as the High Street one, I am sure there will be problems with delays, wrong orders, people coming back round the circle to return meals. . If its someone who has their head screwed on to run an efficient business, it could work well . Plus with regard to the litter problem, it's also the fact that people with the don't care attitude, that stems from upbringing, it was drummed into me never to litter, bin it, or take it home, and its sad that others have the attitude, " stuff it, some else with clear it up " attitude.

I saw a KFC worker in the high store at 10am in the morning and his shirt was black with dirt, what's their hygiene score from environmental health?

I boycotted the high street KFC a couple of years ago, after waiting an hour for take-away food that was wrong when I eventually got it. The 'restaurant' upstairs is a disgrace at all times & the staff couldn't have been less helpful. I feel sorry for the residents of Ipswich rd that will have this next door but its hard luck. We don't 'need' a new KFC in Colchester, but at least some jobs may be created. Just hope that if its built that they don't close the high street one down and relocate the useless staff from there!!

This town is an absolute dump these days, a KFC gives the correct impression.