Waits at Colchester's North Station Roundabout set to drag on

Gazette: Waits at Colchester's North Station Roundabout set to drag on Waits at Colchester's North Station Roundabout set to drag on

HIGHWAYS chiefs have rejected calls to tackle congestion at Colchester’s most notorious roundabout.

Motorists frequently find themselves stuck on North Station Roundabout, while shoppers sometimes take 45 minutes to get out of nearby Turner Rise and the Asda supermarket.

Local councillors, supported by Asda, believe the timings of the traffic lights, which were set in 2006, are now out-of-date and are fuelling delays.

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4:25pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Boris says...

The best thing they can do is avoid aggravating the problem by vetoing the building of even a single new house north of North Station. Fat chance of that.
The best thing they can do is avoid aggravating the problem by vetoing the building of even a single new house north of North Station. Fat chance of that. Boris

4:40pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Checkout says...

I think the time for that particular remedy has passed Boris and we are confronted by an extremely difficult, seemingly insoluble and growing problem.
I'm not a traffic engineer and cannot suggest a valid solution. I'd suggest we urgently need to commission experts to examine the situation and give some helpful advice.
Since no one else is likely to do this, perhaps CBC have to grasp the nettle.
I think the time for that particular remedy has passed Boris and we are confronted by an extremely difficult, seemingly insoluble and growing problem. I'm not a traffic engineer and cannot suggest a valid solution. I'd suggest we urgently need to commission experts to examine the situation and give some helpful advice. Since no one else is likely to do this, perhaps CBC have to grasp the nettle. Checkout

4:48pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Arthur Fonzarelli says...

Build four new railway stations at Stanway, St.Johns/Parsons Heath, University and Ardleigh.
Build four new railway stations at Stanway, St.Johns/Parsons Heath, University and Ardleigh. Arthur Fonzarelli

5:03pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Toneloc says...

Arthur Fonzarelli wrote:
Build four new railway stations at Stanway, St.Johns/Parsons Heath, University and Ardleigh.
Not sure how that would help the congestion that is caused by shoppers, by the residents of the new housing that keeps appearing in North Colchester, and by the cars that will be coming into town from the final phase of the northern approach road, linking into the new A12 junction. The commuters getting off at Colchester North are a small part of the problem - the high car park fees take care of that.
[quote][p][bold]Arthur Fonzarelli[/bold] wrote: Build four new railway stations at Stanway, St.Johns/Parsons Heath, University and Ardleigh.[/p][/quote]Not sure how that would help the congestion that is caused by shoppers, by the residents of the new housing that keeps appearing in North Colchester, and by the cars that will be coming into town from the final phase of the northern approach road, linking into the new A12 junction. The commuters getting off at Colchester North are a small part of the problem - the high car park fees take care of that. Toneloc

5:17pm Wed 19 Dec 12

greenbroker says...

When the junction in its present form was opened it never received a good reception and that has proved to be true. It is a total disaster. I could go on at great length about the anomalies there.
Arthur Fonzarelli is right in what he says about new rail stations. The authorities a making the situation worse by concentrating traffic in that area.
We need we need some drastic action. It must be the worst traffic junction in the South England.
When the junction in its present form was opened it never received a good reception and that has proved to be true. It is a total disaster. I could go on at great length about the anomalies there. Arthur Fonzarelli is right in what he says about new rail stations. The authorities a making the situation worse by concentrating traffic in that area. We need we need some drastic action. It must be the worst traffic junction in the South England. greenbroker

6:59pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Brooks Forbutox says...

Stuff and nonsense. There are far worse sections of road elsewhere. The lights are computer controlled to maximise throughput, and the problems are caused by the weight of traffic and on the odd occasion when the lights fail. What we need is a real option to driving. If we put in bus lanes then the drivers stuck in their cars will see buses whizzing past and might just alter their behaviour. New infrastructure isn't the answer (you'll just move the jams on to Westway and the Ave of Rem): changing behaviour offers the only hope, and that starts with you.
Stuff and nonsense. There are far worse sections of road elsewhere. The lights are computer controlled to maximise throughput, and the problems are caused by the weight of traffic and on the odd occasion when the lights fail. What we need is a real option to driving. If we put in bus lanes then the drivers stuck in their cars will see buses whizzing past and might just alter their behaviour. New infrastructure isn't the answer (you'll just move the jams on to Westway and the Ave of Rem): changing behaviour offers the only hope, and that starts with you. Brooks Forbutox

8:39pm Wed 19 Dec 12

jut1972 says...

There is going to be a bus lane and it will shave seconds off the bus journey and not make a blind bit of difference.

The congestion is at the roundabout and under the bridge. There is no room for a bus lane there.

A full bus is what 20 - 30 cars off the road? With the traffic at north station that equates to about ten - twenty seconds worth.

Its the spineless leadership at ECC and CBC thats to blame for this. No agreement on funding for the park and ride, bus lane years late (not that it will make any odds), thousands more houses being built and the travel strategy response? people should use bikes.

A practical suggestion that could be implemented immediately is for Asda to put someone on the roundabout and guide the traffic out of the car park and onto Petrolea way when necessary. The only reason they dont is legally they arent enabled to control the traffic but as its private property that doesnt apply.

Go on gossy kick Turrell out and take charge, we need some new blood!
There is going to be a bus lane and it will shave seconds off the bus journey and not make a blind bit of difference. The congestion is at the roundabout and under the bridge. There is no room for a bus lane there. A full bus is what 20 - 30 cars off the road? With the traffic at north station that equates to about ten - twenty seconds worth. Its the spineless leadership at ECC and CBC thats to blame for this. No agreement on funding for the park and ride, bus lane years late (not that it will make any odds), thousands more houses being built and the travel strategy response? people should use bikes. A practical suggestion that could be implemented immediately is for Asda to put someone on the roundabout and guide the traffic out of the car park and onto Petrolea way when necessary. The only reason they dont is legally they arent enabled to control the traffic but as its private property that doesnt apply. Go on gossy kick Turrell out and take charge, we need some new blood! jut1972

8:52pm Wed 19 Dec 12

crazy comments says...

Boris wrote:
The best thing they can do is avoid aggravating the problem by vetoing the building of even a single new house north of North Station. Fat chance of that.
Your dead right Boris.
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: The best thing they can do is avoid aggravating the problem by vetoing the building of even a single new house north of North Station. Fat chance of that.[/p][/quote]Your dead right Boris. crazy comments

12:05pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Brooks Forbutox says...

Waddya mean? No room for a bus lane? Just take two of the four lanes for general traffic. Extend bus priority between the hospital, town centre and the university. Reliable. Quick. Cheap. And driving ain't any of those.
Waddya mean? No room for a bus lane? Just take two of the four lanes for general traffic. Extend bus priority between the hospital, town centre and the university. Reliable. Quick. Cheap. And driving ain't any of those. Brooks Forbutox

12:15pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Red Tape 2 says...

Brooks Forbutox wrote:
Waddya mean? No room for a bus lane? Just take two of the four lanes for general traffic. Extend bus priority between the hospital, town centre and the university. Reliable. Quick. Cheap. And driving ain't any of those.
Reliable. Quick. Cheap - Hmmm don't know where you travel from but I wouldn't exactly describe that as my personal experience of the bus service....
[quote][p][bold]Brooks Forbutox[/bold] wrote: Waddya mean? No room for a bus lane? Just take two of the four lanes for general traffic. Extend bus priority between the hospital, town centre and the university. Reliable. Quick. Cheap. And driving ain't any of those.[/p][/quote]Reliable. Quick. Cheap - Hmmm don't know where you travel from but I wouldn't exactly describe that as my personal experience of the bus service.... Red Tape 2

12:18pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Red Tape 2 says...

The lights at North Station are a complete joke - when one set are green the next are red, so nowhere to go. Plus the space for cars to queue at them is woefully inadequate - three cars into the station for example. Whoever designed that layout should be ashamed.
The lights at North Station are a complete joke - when one set are green the next are red, so nowhere to go. Plus the space for cars to queue at them is woefully inadequate - three cars into the station for example. Whoever designed that layout should be ashamed. Red Tape 2

2:22pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Brooks Forbutox says...

Red Tape 2 wrote:
Brooks Forbutox wrote:
Waddya mean? No room for a bus lane? Just take two of the four lanes for general traffic. Extend bus priority between the hospital, town centre and the university. Reliable. Quick. Cheap. And driving ain't any of those.
Reliable. Quick. Cheap - Hmmm don't know where you travel from but I wouldn't exactly describe that as my personal experience of the bus service....
@red tape - not necessarily now, more in the future
[quote][p][bold]Red Tape 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brooks Forbutox[/bold] wrote: Waddya mean? No room for a bus lane? Just take two of the four lanes for general traffic. Extend bus priority between the hospital, town centre and the university. Reliable. Quick. Cheap. And driving ain't any of those.[/p][/quote]Reliable. Quick. Cheap - Hmmm don't know where you travel from but I wouldn't exactly describe that as my personal experience of the bus service....[/p][/quote]@red tape - not necessarily now, more in the future Brooks Forbutox

4:43pm Thu 20 Dec 12

romantic says...

The problem is that everything has to tie in together. Park and ride to reduce traffic coming in from the North means less congestion at the station. NAR extension to take some traffic away from Ipswich Rd, Cowdray Avenue. Bus lanes so that there is a benefit in terms of time to using buses.

There is no easy solution to this while so many people drive into the town. The bridge widened at the station just means more traffic hitting the next roads along. Building any connecting roads such as NAR direct to Cowdray Avenue is a massive venture and would mean demolishing some houses etc.

Like it or not, people have to move away from cars. Bit by bit, not everyone can do it, but lots of people could cut their reliance on the car. If you drive your child to school, maybe they could walk. Catch a bus sometimes: if you park in town, the cost is probably more than a Dayrover ticket. I used to drive everywhere, I know how it is. The car is now gone, and actually, it´s not that hard. It´s saved me a fortune and cycling makes me far fitter.

40 people on a bus means less cars on that road. jut1972 argues that it is just a few seconds worth of cars, which is true when the traffic is flowing freely. The point of this atricle is that it does not flow freely, not at peak times. Look at the space occupied by one bus against 20 cars, that is how we really need to compare them.

If you are in gridlock, you are part of the cause! Ditch the car, even just for some journeys!
The problem is that everything has to tie in together. Park and ride to reduce traffic coming in from the North means less congestion at the station. NAR extension to take some traffic away from Ipswich Rd, Cowdray Avenue. Bus lanes so that there is a benefit in terms of time to using buses. There is no easy solution to this while so many people drive into the town. The bridge widened at the station just means more traffic hitting the next roads along. Building any connecting roads such as NAR direct to Cowdray Avenue is a massive venture and would mean demolishing some houses etc. Like it or not, people have to move away from cars. Bit by bit, not everyone can do it, but lots of people could cut their reliance on the car. If you drive your child to school, maybe they could walk. Catch a bus sometimes: if you park in town, the cost is probably more than a Dayrover ticket. I used to drive everywhere, I know how it is. The car is now gone, and actually, it´s not that hard. It´s saved me a fortune and cycling makes me far fitter. 40 people on a bus means less cars on that road. jut1972 argues that it is just a few seconds worth of cars, which is true when the traffic is flowing freely. The point of this atricle is that it does not flow freely, not at peak times. Look at the space occupied by one bus against 20 cars, that is how we really need to compare them. If you are in gridlock, you are part of the cause! Ditch the car, even just for some journeys! romantic

7:28pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Brooks Forbutox says...

You're right, Romantic. Check this: http://consumerist.c
om/2010/06/29/how-mu
ch-street-space-car-
vs-bus-vs-bicycle/
You're right, Romantic. Check this: http://consumerist.c om/2010/06/29/how-mu ch-street-space-car- vs-bus-vs-bicycle/ Brooks Forbutox

7:29pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Brooks Forbutox says...

Or the same link, shortened - http://bit.ly/RGQxgd
Or the same link, shortened - http://bit.ly/RGQxgd Brooks Forbutox

10:54pm Thu 20 Dec 12

jut1972 says...

I think most people are cutting back on car journies (I certainly am) not because of any green agenda, but purely the cost. So I am sure behaviours are changing, but the bottom line is the infrastructure is not fit for purpose now, never mind when the next set of developments are built.

The leadership at CBC needs to take a long hard look at itself, well meaning people I am sure but they are not up to the job. If ECC have not agreed to look at this issue then get back in their faces until they do. We kowtow to ECC far too much.
I think most people are cutting back on car journies (I certainly am) not because of any green agenda, but purely the cost. So I am sure behaviours are changing, but the bottom line is the infrastructure is not fit for purpose now, never mind when the next set of developments are built. The leadership at CBC needs to take a long hard look at itself, well meaning people I am sure but they are not up to the job. If ECC have not agreed to look at this issue then get back in their faces until they do. We kowtow to ECC far too much. jut1972

12:45am Fri 21 Dec 12

Boris says...

Several of our CBC councillors are also councillors on ECC, including Anne Turrell and Lyn Barton. Their party is in opposition there, but why do we never ever hear of them speaking up for Colchester at County Hall? There is plenty of scope for cross-party negotiation on projects like this, but they do not appear to possess the elementary political skills to engage with the Tories there, who have the power to change things to everyone's benefit.
Several of our CBC councillors are also councillors on ECC, including Anne Turrell and Lyn Barton. Their party is in opposition there, but why do we never ever hear of them speaking up for Colchester at County Hall? There is plenty of scope for cross-party negotiation on projects like this, but they do not appear to possess the elementary political skills to engage with the Tories there, who have the power to change things to everyone's benefit. Boris

1:00am Fri 21 Dec 12

Boris says...

crazy comments wrote:
Boris wrote:
The best thing they can do is avoid aggravating the problem by vetoing the building of even a single new house north of North Station. Fat chance of that.
Your dead right Boris.
Thanks, crazy. It's good when we agree, which is quite often really. Best wishes to you and everyone else for Xmas and New Year, and let's hope we see a lot more of John White as the U's turn their season round and make sure they stay up.
[quote][p][bold]crazy comments[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: The best thing they can do is avoid aggravating the problem by vetoing the building of even a single new house north of North Station. Fat chance of that.[/p][/quote]Your dead right Boris.[/p][/quote]Thanks, crazy. It's good when we agree, which is quite often really. Best wishes to you and everyone else for Xmas and New Year, and let's hope we see a lot more of John White as the U's turn their season round and make sure they stay up. Boris

9:49am Fri 21 Dec 12

romantic says...

Brooks Forbutox wrote:
You're right, Romantic. Check this: http://consumerist.c

om/2010/06/29/how-mu

ch-street-space-car-

vs-bus-vs-bicycle/
Interesting link, and interesting comments afterwards. Thanks for that, Brooks Forbutox.
[quote][p][bold]Brooks Forbutox[/bold] wrote: You're right, Romantic. Check this: http://consumerist.c om/2010/06/29/how-mu ch-street-space-car- vs-bus-vs-bicycle/[/p][/quote]Interesting link, and interesting comments afterwards. Thanks for that, Brooks Forbutox. romantic

4:39pm Sat 22 Dec 12

jut1972 says...

Boris wrote:
Several of our CBC councillors are also councillors on ECC, including Anne Turrell and Lyn Barton. Their party is in opposition there, but why do we never ever hear of them speaking up for Colchester at County Hall? There is plenty of scope for cross-party negotiation on projects like this, but they do not appear to possess the elementary political skills to engage with the Tories there, who have the power to change things to everyone's benefit.
Spot on. ECC runs rings round the CBC leadership. The CBC leaders both at a cabinet and CEO level are completely invisible.
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: Several of our CBC councillors are also councillors on ECC, including Anne Turrell and Lyn Barton. Their party is in opposition there, but why do we never ever hear of them speaking up for Colchester at County Hall? There is plenty of scope for cross-party negotiation on projects like this, but they do not appear to possess the elementary political skills to engage with the Tories there, who have the power to change things to everyone's benefit.[/p][/quote]Spot on. ECC runs rings round the CBC leadership. The CBC leaders both at a cabinet and CEO level are completely invisible. jut1972

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