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Tesco wins final legal battle for Manningtree store
5:45pm Wednesday 21st November 2012 in News
A SUPERSTORE legal battle has been thrown out of the Court of Appeal.
A senior judge has today, November 21, thrown out the East of England Co-operative Society's challenge against a rival store being built in Mannningtree.
The Co-op claimed Tendring Council made a host of errors in granting the new shop's planning permission and called for a judicial review.
This was turned down and Sir David Keene's decision in London today paves the way for the new tesco development, at a former industrial site in Station Road, to go ahead.
Comments(28)
Bramble1979
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7:08pm Wed 21 Nov 12
Watch out Frinton and Walton, you'll be next with Tesco heading your way!
karenlb38
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7:38pm Wed 21 Nov 12
25414nora
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7:59pm Wed 21 Nov 12
Maybe the Co-operative ought to compete more and complain less..
carnuts
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8:45pm Wed 21 Nov 12
What is the Co-Op?
corporate
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9:11pm Wed 21 Nov 12
Tesco provide jobs, cheaper goods, healthy competition, delivery to the infirm and those unable to get out, community ventures (school items etc), easy parking at their stores, Value items that are particularly welcome in these austere times, and...well, the list goes on.
And what do the NIMBY's say? "Traffic will bring the town to a standstill". Well, a respected legal survey indicated exactly the opposite. "Shops will close". Well, they already have a Tesco and a Co-op vying for heallthy business, and none of the other many shops seem to sell the same sort of goods as Tesco - we have at least two bakers in town, several pubs, to name but two co-existing business types and - most important of all - a SELECTION of places in which to shop. With Colchester and Ipswich just 15 minutes away, are we suggesting these towns will force Manningtree shops to close? Of course they might, but Manningtree Tesco will bring people IN, not drive them away, and we only have to read Tesco's success story to realise that people ARE shopping in their stores, and are NOT being frogmarched into the stores, but choose, out of their own free will, to do so. The people have spoken, the Council has agreed, and, like the picturesque fence some people find abhorrent (for some reason) Tesco will be here to stay. Personally, I can't wait and Manningtree will be seen to thrive, despite what the nay-sayers choose to scare others with.
rhetoric
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8:36am Thu 22 Nov 12
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They pay just like other people, who may opt for delivery because they are too busy at work or otherwise.
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I am not certain whether the delivery system is a "loss leader", but would guess that in addition to the fee paid for delivery there is also a fair profit from the goods sold in this way.
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And, of course, Tesco are fuel retailers, so their delivery vans must be getting their fuel at a discount too!
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Charity, it's not...
Lawford Lass
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9:48am Thu 22 Nov 12
friday_woods
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9:57am Thu 22 Nov 12
roger bacon
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10:55am Thu 22 Nov 12
karenlb38 wrote:Funny I thought there was already a Tesco in Manningtree.
Tesco arriving in Manningtree will make NO difference to shops closing .. 2 more shops have closed recently and tesco has not even been built YET
I put it down to your naivety that when a big Tesco comes to Manningtree it will draw money away from every business even those with products that Tesco do not sell.There is only so much money that people can spend. Or perhaps you did not realise that.
I had a friend who had a shop in Clacton town centre Not one product he sold did Tesco sell. He averaged £250-£300 takings per day . Within 9 months of the 24 hour Tesco opening his takings had dropped to £50 per day and 6 months later £15 per day. Then he closed up, broke and a marriage break up as well. He had been trading in Clacton for over 20 years. That's what Tesco does to communities.
Dug
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10:58am Thu 22 Nov 12
I buy most of my meat now from a local butcher. It's actually cheaper in most cases and way better quality!
anon-me
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1:09pm Thu 22 Nov 12
willism
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1:15pm Thu 22 Nov 12
I trust the people that are arguing against tesco's dont ever shop there. That would make them hypocrites.
Like the old saying, guns dont kill people.. people do.
smile23
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5:45pm Thu 22 Nov 12
roger bacon
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7:15pm Thu 22 Nov 12
smile23 wrote:Of course you will be right as the other shops will all be gone
I bet when the store is up and running half the people who moaned about it being built will use as its on there door step
Places the size on Manningtree in USA now has a Walmart and all the other local shops have closed and a great deal of unemployment in those areas
Cleggeron
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8:52pm Thu 22 Nov 12
And of course, the profits are exported out of the town and aren't spend with local suppliers.
Of course, the existing local shops aren't owed a living - but Tesco has emormous buying power and the ability to sell at a loss in order to attract customers. That's something independents can't do for long, if at all.
corporate
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10:00pm Thu 22 Nov 12
Part-time jobs are better than no jobs at all, surely?
Cleggeron would need to clarify his 'Tesco aren't cheaper' remark, because, of course, the big Tesco hasn't been built yet, so nobody knows what their pricing strategy will be. I would be happy to know that items WILL be cheaper in the future (I'm not concerned about what I paid yesterday) and certainly, vying for custom with the Co-op, it makes good business sense to undercut what is already being sold at other supermarkets in the town.
I found 561 products at Tesco being sold under their Everyday Value label - that is, really really cheap - for example, 15 eggs for £1.69, butter 98p, bread 47p. These are staple foods and many of these items are further complemented by '3 for 2' offers. We spent £124 last week at Morrisons; the same (or equivalent items) in Tesco totalled just under £105. And we also got 10p off each litre of fuel, plus Tesco Clubcard Points, which entitles us to further savings on our subsequent shopping sessions online.
Bring it on!
roger bacon
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10:36pm Thu 22 Nov 12
All, repeat all supermarkets are dearer than butchers or greengrocers for buying meat and fruit and vegetables . They always have been. All supermarket fruit is bought for long shelf life and not for flavour or quality. In the trade it is generally thought that the worst apples are Golden Delicious, and those from the Loire Valley the worst of all. Guess what that apples the supermarkets sell , yes GD because they have the longest shelf life. The far superior Cox'es are being phased out as it does not have such a long shelf life.
Belly of pork is nearly twice the price in Tesco as the local butcher
As for more choice in Tesco you cannot buy Back or Top Ribs of Beef, Thick End of Belly,Blade Bone of Pork, Blade steak or Best End neck or Breast of Lamb..Eggs are far dearer at Tesco than my local corner shop. A pound a dozen dearer.
Boris
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11:23pm Thu 22 Nov 12
Boris
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11:28pm Thu 22 Nov 12
Lawford Lass wrote:You evidently mean councillor Guglielmi. I wonder how he voted on the Tesco application. He should have abstained, but did he?
Just remember the jobs they're promising to create are high in number because they tend to only employ part time. Wonder how long before its open 24 hours and then maybe they'll think about adding a petrol station.... And the people who own the post office in Waldergrave Way will be smiling as the co-op closes and they're the only post office around.... As for the traffic, well its already chaos alot of the time, as everyone who works in the high street knows, and thats before they added the temporary traffic lights. Nevermind at least people can get their shopping cheaper and quicker....
roger bacon
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2:52pm Fri 23 Nov 12
The planning committee passed the Tesco plans with only 5 of the 11 councillors voting for them. The chairperson Rosemary Heaney said she feared Tesco would ruin the High Street and then abstained as did 3 other councillors.
Boris
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9:23pm Fri 23 Nov 12
roger bacon wrote:Thanks, Roger. Absolutely disgraceful. I thought our Colchester councillors were bad enough, but your TDC councillors are, if anything, worse. Except for Gary Scott, of course, who seens a sound and sensible man.
Councillor Gugliemi is not on the Planning committee but a letter from him was read out at the meeting. that he supported the planning application.
The planning committee passed the Tesco plans with only 5 of the 11 councillors voting for them. The chairperson Rosemary Heaney said she feared Tesco would ruin the High Street and then abstained as did 3 other councillors.
Boris
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9:24pm Fri 23 Nov 12
corporate
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9:49pm Fri 23 Nov 12
As for his comment that you can't buy certain types of beef in Tesco, isn't this a wonderful recommendation for keeping the local butchers' shops open, so that people CAN buy the meat they want? In a roundabout way, Roger is telling us Tesco doesn't threaten your friendly local butcher. At last, it seems the message that local shops have nothing to fear is getting through!
As for 'choice', I never said you would find an infinite choice of items in Tesco; my point was that, with a Tesco store in town, shoppers would have more choice as to where they shopped, and subsequently, freedom to pick and choose. Again, Roger is suggesting to us that Tesco will not threaten greengrocers' shops, and those who want good apples will certainly shop at the local greengrocer. Another local shop thriving! Those who want 'bad' apples will shop accordingly - again, choice for the consumer. A quick check of 'apple' on Tesco's website comes up with 38 different apple selections - I like Gala myself, or the odd Braeburn. Again, my choice. I doubt the greengrocer has as many options.
Every little helps.
roger bacon
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12:03am Sat 24 Nov 12
corporate wrote:Corporate
Not sure Roger Bacon can ever buy eggs at his corner shop for less than Tesco sells them.Tesco sells15 Everyday Value eggs for £1.69, this equates to £1.39 per dozen. Can Roger honestly tell us his local shop sells them for just 39p per dozen, given that he says Tesco charge £1 more per dozen than he can buy them?
As for his comment that you can't buy certain types of beef in Tesco, isn't this a wonderful recommendation for keeping the local butchers' shops open, so that people CAN buy the meat they want? In a roundabout way, Roger is telling us Tesco doesn't threaten your friendly local butcher. At last, it seems the message that local shops have nothing to fear is getting through!
As for 'choice', I never said you would find an infinite choice of items in Tesco; my point was that, with a Tesco store in town, shoppers would have more choice as to where they shopped, and subsequently, freedom to pick and choose. Again, Roger is suggesting to us that Tesco will not threaten greengrocers' shops, and those who want good apples will certainly shop at the local greengrocer. Another local shop thriving! Those who want 'bad' apples will shop accordingly - again, choice for the consumer. A quick check of 'apple' on Tesco's website comes up with 38 different apple selections - I like Gala myself, or the odd Braeburn. Again, my choice. I doubt the greengrocer has as many options.
Every little helps.
You have to compare like for like. Tesco Happy Egg Large. £2.26 half dozen
My local shop and it's not the cheapest Large farm eggs £1.59 per half dozen.
The do indeed sell 15 eggs at 1.39 but they are only medium size eggs(PS There are 6 different sizes of eggs)
My local shop eggs come from a farm 6 miles away,Tesco could come from anywhere but at least 60 miles away. as they have to go to a distribution centre first. I know what I prefer.
corporate
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9:58pm Sat 24 Nov 12
Lawford Lass
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3:49pm Sun 25 Nov 12
HandyManny
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6:25am Tue 27 Nov 12
Think Tesco is lower than Asda and Lidl on the social supermarket scene. It's a bit like the eating in Pizza Hut or Pizza Express question. Maybe Pizza Hut will come to Manningtree next!!
Unlucky Manningtree, you have been lowered on the social spectrum.
roger bacon says...
6:51pm Wed 21 Nov 12
Without supermarkets town centres would be booming and there would be far less people out of work.