the portering team mates are being forced to betray each other to the 'so called managment'to get there lodge back. until then they are forced out in the cold or in cold corridoors with no means of hot water for drinks or access to there things with out calling a security gaurd on shift away from his high dutys to let them in and wait till they leave with there things to lock it back up.

If you all done you job ,instead of sitting about your lodge eating,drinking,and smoking then you would be aloud back in,every lodge you have had you have lost because you cant keep it clean and tidy,and why oh why do you all want to break in to each others lockers?iam glad you have lost this lodge and hope you dont get it back untill you all grow up.

They sit in the lodge eating and drinking as that is what it's there for. They all work hard knocking up several miles a day walking around the hospital and the lodge is somewhere they can have a sit down and have a refreshment break. As for keeping it tidy there are some porters that do a good job at keeping it clean and tidy . There are over 20 porters who use the lodge daily - the lodge being a small portacabin and completely unsuitable for so many staff! - why do they not have a cleaner come in? It is the only staffroom in the hospital that does not have a cleaner. I expect if the building where Carillion managers are based had there cleaner taken away that too would get untidy Admittedly there are a minority of staff who do need to act more responsibly but taking the lodge away and leaving [bold]all[/bold] out in the cold is the wrong way to go about it. [bold]Morale is very low.[/bold] One porter had to wait a very long time indeed to get his lunch from the lodge as security staff were busy. It’s the management /supervisors who need to grow up over this issue.

i am a trust employee at the general and i think that this is unaccetable for the porters they are very hard working polite and great bunch of men. why on earth would the managment do such a thing to them? m m is cleary a manager for them and should'nt say that they a dirty they all look very smart and tidy. i hope that there managers can sleep at night knowing the night shift cant have a warm drink or a sit down which they deserve. go on lads fight for your rights everyone is behind you and again shame on managment if thats what you call yourselfs[/bold]

well carillion are consistent, there are records going back years regarding a regular porter bashing.This bullying has been going on for a long time ,its an ongoing problem it's only now that someone has the courage to stand up for themselves admittedly they do have some bad apples but who doesn't but to Victimise the hard the working ones is wrong & probably illegal. M m odviously doesn't understand the nature of there duties they have to preform can be very stressful they do not get the recognition they deserves there must be some other way to sort out the problems without bullying & blackmail,keep fighting for your rights lads.

As usual, the private companies who are fleecing the NHS every day for profit choose to use a sledgehammer to crack a nut. For an organisation that threatens to sack it's staff if they dare reveal that they are sort- staffed, anything is possible. They don't know who is doing it? Well they are supposed to be managers, why don't they get off their rumps and try and find out? Have they thought maybe about actually TALKING to people? Probably not, that's not how Carillion like to do things, they would rather make all of their staff miserable, which seems to be the only thing they are actually good at.

With reference to the comments from MM i'd just like to say what gives them right to make such a comment? maybe they would like to see the hospital try to run without porters, they are the backbone of the hospital but time and time again they are treated like something you wipe off the bottom of yor shoe! hey managment wonder why the staff morale is so poor?? start giving them the respect they deserve and you may actually see some positive results. Can I just say I am very proud of my partner he works hard and can come home at the end of the day with the satisfaction he has earnt his money!! Keep fighting for your rights boys!

As a patient who was admitted and spent several weeeks in the hospital you get to meet many members of staff on a regular basis. I have found that the porters are always very helpful and many go out of their way to help visitors or patients with directions without even needing to be asked. i first got speaking to a porter of the hospital wen i was moved out into the rain across the road at 2am in the morning as he was the only one who seemed to care about my warmth and well being. i have a great respect for the porters after the quality of service i recieved. Many people have no idea just how many miles the porters walk in a day and are always happy to perform a task despite the disgusting wages they recieve.obviously many people do not know they handle such huge responsibilities. I have learnt and seen of only a few intimidating letters that have been sent out regarding issues that the management should be tackling. Are any of the managers actually trained with basic managerial skills? My guess is they probably are not as they would have dealt with this issue alone in a more proffessional manner that would not disrupt the daily demanding duties that is expected of them. As for Mr M M he is obviously a manager of the company to have such a bitter attitude towards the porters and if that "tiny shed" that is meant to be a restroom was to be taken away where are the porters meant to go when they have dealt with a sensitive task? I think this absolute bullying from the management needs to stop because without the porters the hospital would come to a complete [bold]standstill[/bold] !

I cant say im surprised at the managements actions, they clearly have nothing better to do than bully their staff. Maybe if they stopped bullying the staff and concentrated on thier own overpaid jobs the place would be a happier environment. i hope you managers are proud of bringing total embarrasment on to the hospital. i suppose next time a bus stop is vandalised all the bus stops will be out of service? if you treat the team like kids you cant expect them to behave like adults!

the porters are a good work team there are some who do play about and there are some good one out there, then are very friend and nice to chat to as well.there are like a team, if you be nice to them then are nice back to you..

The Porter'lodge is a mere scratch on the surface in comparison to how the porters are treated.As an ex employee (who at times was not the best)I worked there for five years portering and in the management area villa *****.These men are part of a team that help save lives and have to deal with at times heart breaking situation's for a mere six pound an hour.Carillion is a multi millon organisation who's motto is values and i'm sad to say the managers have none. Lads your just a space on the rota that will be easily replaced,strike and it will fall apart. For the record long live Droopy's Weaver.

[quote][bold]M ,M[/bold] wrote: If you all done you job ,instead of sitting about your lodge eating,drinking,and smoking then you would be aloud back in,every lodge you have had you have lost because you cant keep it clean and tidy,and why oh why do you all want to break in to each others lockers?iam glad you have lost this lodge and hope you dont get it back untill you all grow up.[/quote] You have one chance to air your views and all you do is bad mouth the team you work in. M m or should we say Kev you should be very ashamed.

I just wanna say I totally agree with Master Hay, MM's comments are irrelevant, narrow minded and I would make a guess at saying it was written by someone of low intelligence. It appears to be the rantings of a hateful mind with no real insight to the situation or the goings on within the portering team. The closing of the lodge is an issue I do not with to discuss due to the future of my career, but I will say to MM can you please put down the Mien Kampf Hilter novel, sort out your facist views and keep comments such as that to yourself, this lodge closure is punishment enough without the mindless words of an infant minded thug. Long Live the Sparrow

what a bunch of wasters,i hope you never get you lodge back and have to stay out in the corridors or out side with al the nasty smoker scum,

Sonja we love you Thanks for sticking up for us Please send letters to all our managers in your brilliant language. To cheer us up please send us some sexy pictures of yourself in your F M Bs (Sexy Boots) So we can use them to cover up the damage to the lockers. Love the porters, especially 1 who wants to take you out but hasn't got the bottle to ask you. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Id just like to say M M seems to be a very angry frustrated, lonely, foolish man, which matches the exact descriptions of all the carillion [bold]managers[/bold] (because that it what they are actually there for, even though they enjoy bullying and degrading members of the human race more!)

[bold]Kev![/bold] thug browns whale in shining armour

UPDATE: Easter Sunday.....Without notifying the porters lockers were forced opened and emptied then removed from the lodge today whilst personal items are left in bin bags on the floor. Chairs were also thrown in to a van for disposal.

Latest bullying tactic: The lodge was cleared today of most of people lockers containing personal items which were thrown into bags and left in a pile. It has also emerged that we were locked out of the lodge not as a punishment for vandalism, but to make way for our so called managements, new office. Whilst porters are left out in this recent freezing weather, a perfectly suitable lodge is available yet will be utilised to house the fat cats of carrillion who dont realise the only reason they have a job is because the porters below provide them with a position. This is the final straw for me as a porter, I feel degraded in a company I have done nothing but work hard for yet recieve no thanks from management. I have decided to hand in my notice asap and would urge all porters to follow suit. If porters all leave, there will be no management, maybe this will teach the bullys a lesson. Thanks for the great easter Carillion it has been a joyfull occasion.

[quote][bold]MM[/bold] wrote: what a bunch of wasters,i hope you never get you lodge back and have to stay out in the corridors or out side with al the nasty smoker scum,[/quote] Who is al the nasty smoker scum? I think his real name isnt al, but Patrick Read

No sign of Murphey's Mafia sorting it out. It will affect patient care. Still I forgot what are patients just bodies lying about making the place untidy

I think it's pathetic that the porters have away from them. They need somewhere to relax and have their breaks as they work hard, having to walk around all day. It seems just because the management can't be bothered to find out who actually vandalised the lodge so they're punishing everyone for it. It's quite sad and pathetic really.

emma thats wot happens when they put no mark ex cleaners as wana b management

As a porter at the general hospital, I to feel discusted working for carillion, you would be treated better if you were in prison. To say moral is low is an understatement. The managementdo know the culprit, but refuse to act, what they want is a signature on a witness statement. To punish every porter is wrong,it seems the manager has not a clue what to do (no man management) or he has just lost the plot. Yesterday we had two members of security breaking into porters lockers and putting their belongings into a bag and thrown on the floor. What about their private possessions, not to mention their rights, are they allowed to do this you tell me. I to with some of my fellow colleages will be looking for another job after this fiasco. Just one more thing, have you read the logo on all our company vehicles, the motto reads, WE CARE DO YOU, what a joke

As a regular visitor to colchester general hospital I find it sad to hear that those lovely porters have been so badly treated by the management, they are a great crowd and so so helpful, and one even carried my shopping, to do this to them is so wrong punish the guilty not the innocent. For them to sit in the cold corridor's after a hards work, shame on you so called managers

I work at colchester general and I support the porters in their fight to keep their only place where they can have a sit down and relax. What right do the management have to punnish them all for some clot's stupit behaviour. Its time you managers get off ur backsides and sort this problem out, this is become ridiculous. We must be the laughing-stock of the nhs

The porter are good at then work and we need porter at the hospital, how can we work with out them, need the management name and i write to him or her. you need a place to relax and drink.

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lets hope that all the porters hand their notice in,what a better place CGH will be with out them,that way we might keep the place neet and tidy,All we need to do now is get rid of the smoking areas and work will be a much better place.

As a porter at CGH I am deeply dissappointed with the actions that have been taken by the management of the porting dept we are all being treated with a lack of respect considering what we do for the company and the unsocialable hour we put in [bold](I would just like to say thank you to the management for taking our lodge from us[/bold] ) maybe not the vandlism will stop, but the bulling won't!

[quote][bold]M ,M[/bold] wrote: If you all done you job ,instead of sitting about your lodge eating,drinking,and smoking then you would be aloud back in,every lodge you have had you have lost because you cant keep it clean and tidy,and why oh why do you all want to break in to each others lockers?iam glad you have lost this lodge and hope you dont get it back untill you all grow up.[/quote] if u knew the amount of work us porters do u would keep ur taughts to ur self u realy dont have a clue with out the porters the hospital would not run

Is it any suprise there is such a negative feedback of postings on here, with the exception of a few mindless idiots everyone is opposed to the closing of the lodge. Everyone around the hospital including nurses, patients, relatives, volunteers and NHS staff all agree that the closure is an unfair way to punish the few idiots which preside on the portering team. When will somebody show these bullys that what they are doin is wrong? How can they sleep at night? (from the looks of the comments above, they sleep comfortably with eachother....) Im dissapointed with Carillion

[quote][bold]big brother[/bold] wrote: lets hope that all the porters hand their notice in,what a better place CGH will be with out them,that way we might keep the place neet and tidy,All we need to do now is get rid of the smoking areas and work will be a much better place.[/quote] The hospital would collapse without proter? who woul collect units of blood? who would take equipment to wards? who would take pateints to theatres? who would deal with removal of bodies? who? Big Brother you are clearly a stupid person please keep your comments to yourself

I feel that the porters do work hard,and there are some porters that make things hard for the rest, but they do not help themselfs by acting like this. some of the comments are childish and some are true.course the hospital would be lost without porters but not all the management are the same, some work hard for the staff. I feel talking to the portering management would work better than some of the comments being made as some are getting very personnel now. good luck to the good porters.

I think we have all learnt a valuble lesson. our masters are right. If we don't obey the masters, they punnish us with large sticks. master is a firey dog with a chain of authority. i will gladly bend down and take the fast lashings for i am a dog to. long live the carrilion dogs of power!!!!! heil carillion!!!!![bold]bold[/bold]

i understand the frustration that has come out of the porters lodge being closed, and agree that the porters need a place to have their breaks and relax. Howerver, if you all know who damaged the lodge, etc why won't you come forward? its very difficult for management to act without witness statements or proof. I don't think slateing the management about their private lives is very professional and will not help the situation. if you want it to be resolved then act with some professionalism.

make love, not war! Unite and fight for love. love is the key. who needs a locker when you have love? not me. love, love, love

i want to work in villa 5 its sounds very intresting

these wannabe-dons are masquerading under the carillion banner but in truth, they are a law unto themselves, the management have got the boys doing jobs third world refugees would turn their noses up at, for wages which are laughable, how is that going to inspire anybody to do anything but the very least? it doesnt, but each and everyone of the lads does a fantastic job under the ridiculous circumstances. from my experience there is no management,just a ragbag bunch of chancers who make it up as they go along, if someone higher up the chain of command at carillion headquaters was to have a closer look at operations at the colchester general hospital, i think a number of people would be looking for another job, eastside!

in response to "ppp" if u want to get a job at villa 5 i dont rekon u need any qaulifications or need to read and write. just simply make up some silly rules and implement them on certain people only, intimidate people to get in line or face the sack

As a close friend of an ex porter i would like to say fight this all the way lads!you do not get the respect you deserve for the hard,and at times the difficult work you do. sadly there a few childish people on the portering staff(you know who you are) that ruin it for the decent hard working ones, who i could count on one hand,they are worth their weight in gold but sadly are having to leave as they are to good for carillion.my friend was one of these decent porters,kind caring and respected by many but could not put up with the bullying and lack of respect from management. i was totally discusted by the way he was treated and they lost a very good porter when he left. these porters deserve to have somewhere to go for breaks etc.. its degrading the way they have been treated.

If your going to act like little children then thats how you should expect to be treated, how is making personal remarks about individuals in th villa going to change anything? And if you dont like the wages then how about you go and get a well paid career, from my experiance you are all just a bunch of low life wasters

reply to 1angryman, keep taking the medicine, and go back to the lakes before they find out your missing, you narrow minded bigot. PS, sounds you were once a manager, did you work for carillion

we like to no who write the sonja lover, one and come and see her she will not bit your head off, lyn and all the staff love the porter think then are good at there work..

[bold]Its all got very personal and off the point on here. [bold]bold[/bold] One of the porters once said to me... [italic]"You can polish a turd, but its still a turd"[/italic] I think that sum's things up really? :)[/bold]

Most of the staff at villa 5 don't care about the employees.they get to sit on their backsides all day so they are happy.They don't have to deal with walking miles each day or work the shifts or most of the things the porters have to do, some more unpleasent then others.they have it good, working 9-5 & don't work any bank holidays.some get well over paid for what they do or hang about work when they aren't even on shift trying to get other employees into trouble. Its ment to be a team so we all work together not grassing each other up or breaking into lockers.the culprits should own up.most people work hard within carillon- porters, wardsmen and housekeeping staff.there are the few which mess it up or grass as they don't have a life of their own.they need to grow up. management/superviso rs both on logistics and housekeeping are in it for themselves.barely put in a hard days work.Just hide somewhere drinking tea or coffee.

In reply to noby bob browns comment, what sort of person are you to have to fight so low as to speak about someones personal life that does not impinge on their ability to hold down a managments job !!! truly a low comment to make. [bold]Did you not think to apply for the job as you are so obviously made for the job.[/bold]

soap don't drop it ha ha ha

[italic]italic[/italic] I THINK EVERYONE NEEDS TO GROW UP AND ACT LIKE ADULTS NOT CHILDREN

[quote][bold]THE ONE[/bold] wrote: [italic]italic[/italic] I THINK EVERYONE NEEDS TO GROW UP AND ACT LIKE ADULTS NOT CHILDREN[/quote] And I Think You Need To Go To Bed Earlier!Future Sailors! Cyborg Sea Dog!

Glad to see the lodge is open to all as normal and that everyone is acting like adults again.

I am glad that the porters have there lodge back and hope everything go's back to normal and hope all the porters start to act like adults and not again to act like children

I am so glad that the management have given the porters their lodge back! I just hope that whoever the pathetic idiot who vandalised it in the first place doesn't ruin it for the porters again.

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