You can get a gastric band on NHS, but not my hole-in heart op!

Gazette: You can get a gastric band on NHS, but not my hole-in heart op! You can get a gastric band on NHS, but not my hole-in heart op!

A MAN who suffered a stroke aged 25 needs to raise £10,000 to have a potentially life-saving operation.

Scott Elliott, now 28, of Agnes Silverside Close, Colchester, has been locked in a two-year battle to have the operation carried out on the NHS.

He wants the hole in his heart to be closed to prevent the possibility of a second stroke.

The NHS has refused to treat him, so he wants to have it done privately.

Mr Elliott’s wife, Helen, 27, said: “Two-and-a-half years later we are still fighting to get the hole closed and we haven’t got anywhere.

“We have always worked so hard and given back.

“Yet, when we need the NHS for something, we feel we have been pushed around from pillar to post.”

“We have been further frustrated in light of some NHS decisions, such as gastric band operations being approved.”

The operation, known as Patent Foramen Ovale Closure, would mean Mr Elliott, a former HGV driver, would get his necessary driving licences back.

Mr Elliott, who now works for a rail company, has had about 50 hospital appointments since suffering the stroke at work in March 2012.

A cardiologist at Broomfield Hospital, in Chelmsford, told Mr Elliott: “This is desperate – there is no way you don’t need it.”

However, the NHS turned him down in May last year.

A special request was sent from another cardiologist to the NHS Commissioning Board last July, but in January the couple were told PTO Closure still was not being publicly funded.

Mr Elliott, who has problems with his speech and confidence, said: “They did a worldwide survey of 20 babies born with PTO – ten had it closed, ten didn’t.

“According to their findings, at the age of 21, when you stop growing, there was no substantial difference for any of them so, therefore, they believe the operation doesn’t have a case.

“But I want to have the operation. I feel like I would get my life back.”

A spokesperson for NHS England (East Anglia) said to: “We understand how difficult this is and sympathise with the patient who may feel they could benefit from this procedure. There is more evidence needed to show that Patent Foramen Ovale ( PFO) is of sufficient benefit to patients and consequently NHS England’s policy is that it should not be routinely commissioned.

“It is likely that PFO will be commissioned at a limited number of centres during the Autumn through its £16.9m Commissioning Through Evaluation programme which trials treatments which clinicians have identified as showing significant promise as a potential treatment option.

“Commissioning Through Evaluation is aimed gather evidence about services which are not currently routinely funded by the NHS as the existing evidence base does not yet demonstrate sufficient clinical and cost-effectiveness for its routine use.”

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5:24pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Mohammad Akbar says...

I'd get it done for free on the NHS
I'd get it done for free on the NHS Mohammad Akbar
  • Score: -19

5:38pm Wed 16 Jul 14

fnagwaa says...

Why not just give up work, have 8 kids, put on 15 stone and then you will not only get whatever operations you need, you'll get a free house, car, dental, everything!!
Why not just give up work, have 8 kids, put on 15 stone and then you will not only get whatever operations you need, you'll get a free house, car, dental, everything!! fnagwaa
  • Score: 11

5:43pm Wed 16 Jul 14

C.I.5. says...

Welcome to good old sensible land of Blighty.
As for the ciggie puffing, fat overweight Onlsow's that I see scoured all over Iceland's with their cheesecakes, beer, pizza and routine walking sticks this is an absolute farce.
Gastric Bands for F*t b*gg*rs and lazy b*st*rds.
I was lying on my back in casualty with a steel hook waiting to be plunged into my stomach and then told I could pay £7 Grand to go private or wait 20 weeks for a Lazer op.
Had not been in hospital for 45 years, I was 5 then.
I see these benefit jobby programmes where eastern block chummies come over here, they pay out to their sprogs that do not even live in this country.
What sickens me, is that you go to the eastern block and try it on over there with benefits and medical care, you are more likely to get a bullet in the head.
Young 17 year olds getting Boob Jobs on the GP.
NHS Farce, they call them TRUSTS. That one makes me really laugh.
We Trust them with our money right? They do things like this right? They make decisions like this which are clearly wrong/wright?
£45,000 on a Three day a week trust Chairperson Right? ....Wrong!
MY cheque contribution will be in the post Scott.
Welcome to good old sensible land of Blighty. As for the ciggie puffing, fat overweight Onlsow's that I see scoured all over Iceland's with their cheesecakes, beer, pizza and routine walking sticks this is an absolute farce. Gastric Bands for F*t b*gg*rs and lazy b*st*rds. I was lying on my back in casualty with a steel hook waiting to be plunged into my stomach and then told I could pay £7 Grand to go private or wait 20 weeks for a Lazer op. Had not been in hospital for 45 years, I was 5 then. I see these benefit jobby programmes where eastern block chummies come over here, they pay out to their sprogs that do not even live in this country. What sickens me, is that you go to the eastern block and try it on over there with benefits and medical care, you are more likely to get a bullet in the head. Young 17 year olds getting Boob Jobs on the GP. NHS Farce, they call them TRUSTS. That one makes me really laugh. We Trust them with our money right? They do things like this right? They make decisions like this which are clearly wrong/wright? £45,000 on a Three day a week trust Chairperson Right? ....Wrong! MY cheque contribution will be in the post Scott. C.I.5.
  • Score: 8

6:01pm Wed 16 Jul 14

donttellanyone says...

I would take them to court how can the nhs turned down healthcare its disgusting
I would take them to court how can the nhs turned down healthcare its disgusting donttellanyone
  • Score: 1

8:12pm Wed 16 Jul 14

super waluigi says...

Ok, firstly, if this guy needs heart surgery and it is proven that his health could deteriorate, or worse, he could die, then it needs to be done on the NHS.
Secondly, and most annoyingly, other than politics, what does gastric bands have to do with this story???? It is a completely different scenario.
Thirdly, shame on the bloke blogging about eastern blocks and boob jobs. What an idiot.
Ok, firstly, if this guy needs heart surgery and it is proven that his health could deteriorate, or worse, he could die, then it needs to be done on the NHS. Secondly, and most annoyingly, other than politics, what does gastric bands have to do with this story???? It is a completely different scenario. Thirdly, shame on the bloke blogging about eastern blocks and boob jobs. What an idiot. super waluigi
  • Score: 3

10:09pm Wed 16 Jul 14

C.I.5. says...

super waluigi wrote:
Ok, firstly, if this guy needs heart surgery and it is proven that his health could deteriorate, or worse, he could die, then it needs to be done on the NHS.
Secondly, and most annoyingly, other than politics, what does gastric bands have to do with this story???? It is a completely different scenario.
Thirdly, shame on the bloke blogging about eastern blocks and boob jobs. What an idiot.
Don' you watch channel 5 tv?
There was one last week f*****g great chap on tv with a gang of them living in a house in London.
He bragged about coming over here, healthcare for his kids, child allowance for the others back at home.
He said in front of his gang meister, if I get no work I go out and steel, while using his fancy laptop. "I steel for food".
Then they showed a shot of him doing steel collections in a van, pocketed a cheque for hundreds from the scrappy. He was taking the stuff in some cases without asking.
No wonder we have no money to pay for people like Scott when there is Sh*t like this going on.
Let me spell it out to you, we were getting our heads shot off in their country to save their ars*s, they then get allowed by the EU to come over here and shaft us.
Good money that is earned over here, gets siphoned out of the country to build over there. Big houses stolen cars etc. Then they come back for more. It is and never will be enough for them.
Our economy cannot go on like this the bubble will burst again soon, what is earn't here should be spent here. Or put it another way if you are a bit slow on the uptake Einstein, money earned in Britain is money that should be spent in Britain. BUY BRITISH:
IT IS PEOPLE LIKE SCOTT THAT SUFFER FOR ALL THIS STUFF GOING ON.
[quote][p][bold]super waluigi[/bold] wrote: Ok, firstly, if this guy needs heart surgery and it is proven that his health could deteriorate, or worse, he could die, then it needs to be done on the NHS. Secondly, and most annoyingly, other than politics, what does gastric bands have to do with this story???? It is a completely different scenario. Thirdly, shame on the bloke blogging about eastern blocks and boob jobs. What an idiot.[/p][/quote]Don' you watch channel 5 tv? There was one last week f*****g great chap on tv with a gang of them living in a house in London. He bragged about coming over here, healthcare for his kids, child allowance for the others back at home. He said in front of his gang meister, if I get no work I go out and steel, while using his fancy laptop. "I steel for food". Then they showed a shot of him doing steel collections in a van, pocketed a cheque for hundreds from the scrappy. He was taking the stuff in some cases without asking. No wonder we have no money to pay for people like Scott when there is Sh*t like this going on. Let me spell it out to you, we were getting our heads shot off in their country to save their ars*s, they then get allowed by the EU to come over here and shaft us. Good money that is earned over here, gets siphoned out of the country to build over there. Big houses stolen cars etc. Then they come back for more. It is and never will be enough for them. Our economy cannot go on like this the bubble will burst again soon, what is earn't here should be spent here. Or put it another way if you are a bit slow on the uptake Einstein, money earned in Britain is money that should be spent in Britain. BUY BRITISH: IT IS PEOPLE LIKE SCOTT THAT SUFFER FOR ALL THIS STUFF GOING ON. C.I.5.
  • Score: 6

10:20pm Wed 16 Jul 14

super waluigi says...

C.I.5. wrote:
super waluigi wrote:
Ok, firstly, if this guy needs heart surgery and it is proven that his health could deteriorate, or worse, he could die, then it needs to be done on the NHS.
Secondly, and most annoyingly, other than politics, what does gastric bands have to do with this story???? It is a completely different scenario.
Thirdly, shame on the bloke blogging about eastern blocks and boob jobs. What an idiot.
Don' you watch channel 5 tv?
There was one last week f*****g great chap on tv with a gang of them living in a house in London.
He bragged about coming over here, healthcare for his kids, child allowance for the others back at home.
He said in front of his gang meister, if I get no work I go out and steel, while using his fancy laptop. "I steel for food".
Then they showed a shot of him doing steel collections in a van, pocketed a cheque for hundreds from the scrappy. He was taking the stuff in some cases without asking.
No wonder we have no money to pay for people like Scott when there is Sh*t like this going on.
Let me spell it out to you, we were getting our heads shot off in their country to save their ars*s, they then get allowed by the EU to come over here and shaft us.
Good money that is earned over here, gets siphoned out of the country to build over there. Big houses stolen cars etc. Then they come back for more. It is and never will be enough for them.
Our economy cannot go on like this the bubble will burst again soon, what is earn't here should be spent here. Or put it another way if you are a bit slow on the uptake Einstein, money earned in Britain is money that should be spent in Britain. BUY BRITISH:
IT IS PEOPLE LIKE SCOTT THAT SUFFER FOR ALL THIS STUFF GOING ON.
Yes. Confirmed. You are a psycho. No matter how many times you "spell it out to me" eastern block and immigration still has no bearing on this story. Well, no more than the smoking ban, legal highs, unemployment, uninsured drivers, teacher strikes and other variables.
Here is some advice, try not to be so patronising with your 'Einstein' comments and try and get to grip with basic English grammar. Your blog is appalling. Try not to believe what the tv teaches you, especially channel 5, and stop being a racist.
[quote][p][bold]C.I.5.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]super waluigi[/bold] wrote: Ok, firstly, if this guy needs heart surgery and it is proven that his health could deteriorate, or worse, he could die, then it needs to be done on the NHS. Secondly, and most annoyingly, other than politics, what does gastric bands have to do with this story???? It is a completely different scenario. Thirdly, shame on the bloke blogging about eastern blocks and boob jobs. What an idiot.[/p][/quote]Don' you watch channel 5 tv? There was one last week f*****g great chap on tv with a gang of them living in a house in London. He bragged about coming over here, healthcare for his kids, child allowance for the others back at home. He said in front of his gang meister, if I get no work I go out and steel, while using his fancy laptop. "I steel for food". Then they showed a shot of him doing steel collections in a van, pocketed a cheque for hundreds from the scrappy. He was taking the stuff in some cases without asking. No wonder we have no money to pay for people like Scott when there is Sh*t like this going on. Let me spell it out to you, we were getting our heads shot off in their country to save their ars*s, they then get allowed by the EU to come over here and shaft us. Good money that is earned over here, gets siphoned out of the country to build over there. Big houses stolen cars etc. Then they come back for more. It is and never will be enough for them. Our economy cannot go on like this the bubble will burst again soon, what is earn't here should be spent here. Or put it another way if you are a bit slow on the uptake Einstein, money earned in Britain is money that should be spent in Britain. BUY BRITISH: IT IS PEOPLE LIKE SCOTT THAT SUFFER FOR ALL THIS STUFF GOING ON.[/p][/quote]Yes. Confirmed. You are a psycho. No matter how many times you "spell it out to me" eastern block and immigration still has no bearing on this story. Well, no more than the smoking ban, legal highs, unemployment, uninsured drivers, teacher strikes and other variables. Here is some advice, try not to be so patronising with your 'Einstein' comments and try and get to grip with basic English grammar. Your blog is appalling. Try not to believe what the tv teaches you, especially channel 5, and stop being a racist. super waluigi
  • Score: -6

11:22pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Boris says...

donttellanyone wrote:
I would take them to court how can the nhs turned down healthcare its disgusting
That could quite likely cost more than the operation, and take a long time. For most types of litigation, there is no legal aid any more.
[quote][p][bold]donttellanyone[/bold] wrote: I would take them to court how can the nhs turned down healthcare its disgusting[/p][/quote]That could quite likely cost more than the operation, and take a long time. For most types of litigation, there is no legal aid any more. Boris
  • Score: 0

12:09am Thu 17 Jul 14

wormshero says...

C.I.5. wrote:
super waluigi wrote:
Ok, firstly, if this guy needs heart surgery and it is proven that his health could deteriorate, or worse, he could die, then it needs to be done on the NHS.
Secondly, and most annoyingly, other than politics, what does gastric bands have to do with this story???? It is a completely different scenario.
Thirdly, shame on the bloke blogging about eastern blocks and boob jobs. What an idiot.
Don' you watch channel 5 tv?
There was one last week f*****g great chap on tv with a gang of them living in a house in London.
He bragged about coming over here, healthcare for his kids, child allowance for the others back at home.
He said in front of his gang meister, if I get no work I go out and steel, while using his fancy laptop. "I steel for food".
Then they showed a shot of him doing steel collections in a van, pocketed a cheque for hundreds from the scrappy. He was taking the stuff in some cases without asking.
No wonder we have no money to pay for people like Scott when there is Sh*t like this going on.
Let me spell it out to you, we were getting our heads shot off in their country to save their ars*s, they then get allowed by the EU to come over here and shaft us.
Good money that is earned over here, gets siphoned out of the country to build over there. Big houses stolen cars etc. Then they come back for more. It is and never will be enough for them.
Our economy cannot go on like this the bubble will burst again soon, what is earn't here should be spent here. Or put it another way if you are a bit slow on the uptake Einstein, money earned in Britain is money that should be spent in Britain. BUY BRITISH:
IT IS PEOPLE LIKE SCOTT THAT SUFFER FOR ALL THIS STUFF GOING ON.
Who watches channel 5? Why would you base your views on a tv show that's specifically edited to spin one opinion? Do you actually think hand picked shots from hundreds of hours of filming represents what actually goes on?

That aside, I do think the NHS should be funding this operation, it's likely to lead to better quality of life and may end up saving money on other operations in the future.
[quote][p][bold]C.I.5.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]super waluigi[/bold] wrote: Ok, firstly, if this guy needs heart surgery and it is proven that his health could deteriorate, or worse, he could die, then it needs to be done on the NHS. Secondly, and most annoyingly, other than politics, what does gastric bands have to do with this story???? It is a completely different scenario. Thirdly, shame on the bloke blogging about eastern blocks and boob jobs. What an idiot.[/p][/quote]Don' you watch channel 5 tv? There was one last week f*****g great chap on tv with a gang of them living in a house in London. He bragged about coming over here, healthcare for his kids, child allowance for the others back at home. He said in front of his gang meister, if I get no work I go out and steel, while using his fancy laptop. "I steel for food". Then they showed a shot of him doing steel collections in a van, pocketed a cheque for hundreds from the scrappy. He was taking the stuff in some cases without asking. No wonder we have no money to pay for people like Scott when there is Sh*t like this going on. Let me spell it out to you, we were getting our heads shot off in their country to save their ars*s, they then get allowed by the EU to come over here and shaft us. Good money that is earned over here, gets siphoned out of the country to build over there. Big houses stolen cars etc. Then they come back for more. It is and never will be enough for them. Our economy cannot go on like this the bubble will burst again soon, what is earn't here should be spent here. Or put it another way if you are a bit slow on the uptake Einstein, money earned in Britain is money that should be spent in Britain. BUY BRITISH: IT IS PEOPLE LIKE SCOTT THAT SUFFER FOR ALL THIS STUFF GOING ON.[/p][/quote]Who watches channel 5? Why would you base your views on a tv show that's specifically edited to spin one opinion? Do you actually think hand picked shots from hundreds of hours of filming represents what actually goes on? That aside, I do think the NHS should be funding this operation, it's likely to lead to better quality of life and may end up saving money on other operations in the future. wormshero
  • Score: 1

7:42pm Thu 17 Jul 14

NolongerGREATBritain says...

Perhaps he should start by setting up a Just Giving page. I would donate.
Perhaps he should start by setting up a Just Giving page. I would donate. NolongerGREATBritain
  • Score: 1

10:35pm Thu 17 Jul 14

colchlad says...

I too would contribute, the couple involved should set up a web donation thingy.
I too would contribute, the couple involved should set up a web donation thingy. colchlad
  • Score: 1

12:56am Fri 18 Jul 14

Assimilation says...

super waluigi wrote:
C.I.5. wrote:
super waluigi wrote:
Ok, firstly, if this guy needs heart surgery and it is proven that his health could deteriorate, or worse, he could die, then it needs to be done on the NHS.
Secondly, and most annoyingly, other than politics, what does gastric bands have to do with this story???? It is a completely different scenario.
Thirdly, shame on the bloke blogging about eastern blocks and boob jobs. What an idiot.
Don' you watch channel 5 tv?
There was one last week f*****g great chap on tv with a gang of them living in a house in London.
He bragged about coming over here, healthcare for his kids, child allowance for the others back at home.
He said in front of his gang meister, if I get no work I go out and steel, while using his fancy laptop. "I steel for food".
Then they showed a shot of him doing steel collections in a van, pocketed a cheque for hundreds from the scrappy. He was taking the stuff in some cases without asking.
No wonder we have no money to pay for people like Scott when there is Sh*t like this going on.
Let me spell it out to you, we were getting our heads shot off in their country to save their ars*s, they then get allowed by the EU to come over here and shaft us.
Good money that is earned over here, gets siphoned out of the country to build over there. Big houses stolen cars etc. Then they come back for more. It is and never will be enough for them.
Our economy cannot go on like this the bubble will burst again soon, what is earn't here should be spent here. Or put it another way if you are a bit slow on the uptake Einstein, money earned in Britain is money that should be spent in Britain. BUY BRITISH:
IT IS PEOPLE LIKE SCOTT THAT SUFFER FOR ALL THIS STUFF GOING ON.
Yes. Confirmed. You are a psycho. No matter how many times you "spell it out to me" eastern block and immigration still has no bearing on this story. Well, no more than the smoking ban, legal highs, unemployment, uninsured drivers, teacher strikes and other variables.
Here is some advice, try not to be so patronising with your 'Einstein' comments and try and get to grip with basic English grammar. Your blog is appalling. Try not to believe what the tv teaches you, especially channel 5, and stop being a racist.
Up goes the racist card, yet again! How can quoting facts be racist ?
[quote][p][bold]super waluigi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]C.I.5.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]super waluigi[/bold] wrote: Ok, firstly, if this guy needs heart surgery and it is proven that his health could deteriorate, or worse, he could die, then it needs to be done on the NHS. Secondly, and most annoyingly, other than politics, what does gastric bands have to do with this story???? It is a completely different scenario. Thirdly, shame on the bloke blogging about eastern blocks and boob jobs. What an idiot.[/p][/quote]Don' you watch channel 5 tv? There was one last week f*****g great chap on tv with a gang of them living in a house in London. He bragged about coming over here, healthcare for his kids, child allowance for the others back at home. He said in front of his gang meister, if I get no work I go out and steel, while using his fancy laptop. "I steel for food". Then they showed a shot of him doing steel collections in a van, pocketed a cheque for hundreds from the scrappy. He was taking the stuff in some cases without asking. No wonder we have no money to pay for people like Scott when there is Sh*t like this going on. Let me spell it out to you, we were getting our heads shot off in their country to save their ars*s, they then get allowed by the EU to come over here and shaft us. Good money that is earned over here, gets siphoned out of the country to build over there. Big houses stolen cars etc. Then they come back for more. It is and never will be enough for them. Our economy cannot go on like this the bubble will burst again soon, what is earn't here should be spent here. Or put it another way if you are a bit slow on the uptake Einstein, money earned in Britain is money that should be spent in Britain. BUY BRITISH: IT IS PEOPLE LIKE SCOTT THAT SUFFER FOR ALL THIS STUFF GOING ON.[/p][/quote]Yes. Confirmed. You are a psycho. No matter how many times you "spell it out to me" eastern block and immigration still has no bearing on this story. Well, no more than the smoking ban, legal highs, unemployment, uninsured drivers, teacher strikes and other variables. Here is some advice, try not to be so patronising with your 'Einstein' comments and try and get to grip with basic English grammar. Your blog is appalling. Try not to believe what the tv teaches you, especially channel 5, and stop being a racist.[/p][/quote]Up goes the racist card, yet again! How can quoting facts be racist ? Assimilation
  • Score: -1

10:09am Fri 18 Jul 14

wormshero says...

Assimilation wrote:
super waluigi wrote:
C.I.5. wrote:
super waluigi wrote:
Ok, firstly, if this guy needs heart surgery and it is proven that his health could deteriorate, or worse, he could die, then it needs to be done on the NHS.
Secondly, and most annoyingly, other than politics, what does gastric bands have to do with this story???? It is a completely different scenario.
Thirdly, shame on the bloke blogging about eastern blocks and boob jobs. What an idiot.
Don' you watch channel 5 tv?
There was one last week f*****g great chap on tv with a gang of them living in a house in London.
He bragged about coming over here, healthcare for his kids, child allowance for the others back at home.
He said in front of his gang meister, if I get no work I go out and steel, while using his fancy laptop. "I steel for food".
Then they showed a shot of him doing steel collections in a van, pocketed a cheque for hundreds from the scrappy. He was taking the stuff in some cases without asking.
No wonder we have no money to pay for people like Scott when there is Sh*t like this going on.
Let me spell it out to you, we were getting our heads shot off in their country to save their ars*s, they then get allowed by the EU to come over here and shaft us.
Good money that is earned over here, gets siphoned out of the country to build over there. Big houses stolen cars etc. Then they come back for more. It is and never will be enough for them.
Our economy cannot go on like this the bubble will burst again soon, what is earn't here should be spent here. Or put it another way if you are a bit slow on the uptake Einstein, money earned in Britain is money that should be spent in Britain. BUY BRITISH:
IT IS PEOPLE LIKE SCOTT THAT SUFFER FOR ALL THIS STUFF GOING ON.
Yes. Confirmed. You are a psycho. No matter how many times you "spell it out to me" eastern block and immigration still has no bearing on this story. Well, no more than the smoking ban, legal highs, unemployment, uninsured drivers, teacher strikes and other variables.
Here is some advice, try not to be so patronising with your 'Einstein' comments and try and get to grip with basic English grammar. Your blog is appalling. Try not to believe what the tv teaches you, especially channel 5, and stop being a racist.
Up goes the racist card, yet again! How can quoting facts be racist ?
Eastern immigration has happened at a far lower rate than anyone expected and the only "fact" you've put in your reply is anecdotal evidence from a tv show. If you've got recent statistics to back up your claim that money from this relatively small number of immigrants is being earned here to be sent home then by all means use those facts, but you might struggle what with it being made up. There was an argument that a lot was being sent home in 2009 (admittedly the only source I can find is the daily mail, which can't be trusted for immigration figures unless they provide a decent source to look at the raw data), but government statistics have shows a decrease in migrant workers year on year since 2006 so the odds are the values the mail gave 5 years ago have gone down a lot.
You're right that using facts to support a claim isn't racist, but you haven't actually used any facts.
[quote][p][bold]Assimilation[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]super waluigi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]C.I.5.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]super waluigi[/bold] wrote: Ok, firstly, if this guy needs heart surgery and it is proven that his health could deteriorate, or worse, he could die, then it needs to be done on the NHS. Secondly, and most annoyingly, other than politics, what does gastric bands have to do with this story???? It is a completely different scenario. Thirdly, shame on the bloke blogging about eastern blocks and boob jobs. What an idiot.[/p][/quote]Don' you watch channel 5 tv? There was one last week f*****g great chap on tv with a gang of them living in a house in London. He bragged about coming over here, healthcare for his kids, child allowance for the others back at home. He said in front of his gang meister, if I get no work I go out and steel, while using his fancy laptop. "I steel for food". Then they showed a shot of him doing steel collections in a van, pocketed a cheque for hundreds from the scrappy. He was taking the stuff in some cases without asking. No wonder we have no money to pay for people like Scott when there is Sh*t like this going on. Let me spell it out to you, we were getting our heads shot off in their country to save their ars*s, they then get allowed by the EU to come over here and shaft us. Good money that is earned over here, gets siphoned out of the country to build over there. Big houses stolen cars etc. Then they come back for more. It is and never will be enough for them. Our economy cannot go on like this the bubble will burst again soon, what is earn't here should be spent here. Or put it another way if you are a bit slow on the uptake Einstein, money earned in Britain is money that should be spent in Britain. BUY BRITISH: IT IS PEOPLE LIKE SCOTT THAT SUFFER FOR ALL THIS STUFF GOING ON.[/p][/quote]Yes. Confirmed. You are a psycho. No matter how many times you "spell it out to me" eastern block and immigration still has no bearing on this story. Well, no more than the smoking ban, legal highs, unemployment, uninsured drivers, teacher strikes and other variables. Here is some advice, try not to be so patronising with your 'Einstein' comments and try and get to grip with basic English grammar. Your blog is appalling. Try not to believe what the tv teaches you, especially channel 5, and stop being a racist.[/p][/quote]Up goes the racist card, yet again! How can quoting facts be racist ?[/p][/quote]Eastern immigration has happened at a far lower rate than anyone expected and the only "fact" you've put in your reply is anecdotal evidence from a tv show. If you've got recent statistics to back up your claim that money from this relatively small number of immigrants is being earned here to be sent home then by all means use those facts, but you might struggle what with it being made up. There was an argument that a lot was being sent home in 2009 (admittedly the only source I can find is the daily mail, which can't be trusted for immigration figures unless they provide a decent source to look at the raw data), but government statistics have shows a decrease in migrant workers year on year since 2006 so the odds are the values the mail gave 5 years ago have gone down a lot. You're right that using facts to support a claim isn't racist, but you haven't actually used any facts. wormshero
  • Score: 0

11:19am Fri 18 Jul 14

super waluigi says...

Assimilation wrote:
super waluigi wrote:
C.I.5. wrote:
super waluigi wrote:
Ok, firstly, if this guy needs heart surgery and it is proven that his health could deteriorate, or worse, he could die, then it needs to be done on the NHS.
Secondly, and most annoyingly, other than politics, what does gastric bands have to do with this story???? It is a completely different scenario.
Thirdly, shame on the bloke blogging about eastern blocks and boob jobs. What an idiot.
Don' you watch channel 5 tv?
There was one last week f*****g great chap on tv with a gang of them living in a house in London.
He bragged about coming over here, healthcare for his kids, child allowance for the others back at home.
He said in front of his gang meister, if I get no work I go out and steel, while using his fancy laptop. "I steel for food".
Then they showed a shot of him doing steel collections in a van, pocketed a cheque for hundreds from the scrappy. He was taking the stuff in some cases without asking.
No wonder we have no money to pay for people like Scott when there is Sh*t like this going on.
Let me spell it out to you, we were getting our heads shot off in their country to save their ars*s, they then get allowed by the EU to come over here and shaft us.
Good money that is earned over here, gets siphoned out of the country to build over there. Big houses stolen cars etc. Then they come back for more. It is and never will be enough for them.
Our economy cannot go on like this the bubble will burst again soon, what is earn't here should be spent here. Or put it another way if you are a bit slow on the uptake Einstein, money earned in Britain is money that should be spent in Britain. BUY BRITISH:
IT IS PEOPLE LIKE SCOTT THAT SUFFER FOR ALL THIS STUFF GOING ON.
Yes. Confirmed. You are a psycho. No matter how many times you "spell it out to me" eastern block and immigration still has no bearing on this story. Well, no more than the smoking ban, legal highs, unemployment, uninsured drivers, teacher strikes and other variables.
Here is some advice, try not to be so patronising with your 'Einstein' comments and try and get to grip with basic English grammar. Your blog is appalling. Try not to believe what the tv teaches you, especially channel 5, and stop being a racist.
Up goes the racist card, yet again! How can quoting facts be racist ?
All I am saying is that immigration contributes to this story no more (or less) than other factors. Such as Smoking, which is a massive drain (or gain) on the N.H.S.
If anyone is playing the race card it is c.i.5.
[quote][p][bold]Assimilation[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]super waluigi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]C.I.5.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]super waluigi[/bold] wrote: Ok, firstly, if this guy needs heart surgery and it is proven that his health could deteriorate, or worse, he could die, then it needs to be done on the NHS. Secondly, and most annoyingly, other than politics, what does gastric bands have to do with this story???? It is a completely different scenario. Thirdly, shame on the bloke blogging about eastern blocks and boob jobs. What an idiot.[/p][/quote]Don' you watch channel 5 tv? There was one last week f*****g great chap on tv with a gang of them living in a house in London. He bragged about coming over here, healthcare for his kids, child allowance for the others back at home. He said in front of his gang meister, if I get no work I go out and steel, while using his fancy laptop. "I steel for food". Then they showed a shot of him doing steel collections in a van, pocketed a cheque for hundreds from the scrappy. He was taking the stuff in some cases without asking. No wonder we have no money to pay for people like Scott when there is Sh*t like this going on. Let me spell it out to you, we were getting our heads shot off in their country to save their ars*s, they then get allowed by the EU to come over here and shaft us. Good money that is earned over here, gets siphoned out of the country to build over there. Big houses stolen cars etc. Then they come back for more. It is and never will be enough for them. Our economy cannot go on like this the bubble will burst again soon, what is earn't here should be spent here. Or put it another way if you are a bit slow on the uptake Einstein, money earned in Britain is money that should be spent in Britain. BUY BRITISH: IT IS PEOPLE LIKE SCOTT THAT SUFFER FOR ALL THIS STUFF GOING ON.[/p][/quote]Yes. Confirmed. You are a psycho. No matter how many times you "spell it out to me" eastern block and immigration still has no bearing on this story. Well, no more than the smoking ban, legal highs, unemployment, uninsured drivers, teacher strikes and other variables. Here is some advice, try not to be so patronising with your 'Einstein' comments and try and get to grip with basic English grammar. Your blog is appalling. Try not to believe what the tv teaches you, especially channel 5, and stop being a racist.[/p][/quote]Up goes the racist card, yet again! How can quoting facts be racist ?[/p][/quote]All I am saying is that immigration contributes to this story no more (or less) than other factors. Such as Smoking, which is a massive drain (or gain) on the N.H.S. If anyone is playing the race card it is c.i.5. super waluigi
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9:16pm Sun 20 Jul 14

clittybang says...

NHS is a JOKE
NHS is a JOKE clittybang
  • Score: 1

3:21pm Mon 21 Jul 14

kiwisfly says...

I'm trying to contact Scott Elliott, "I'm a new Zealander living in the US and I stroked 2 years ago and discovered that I too had a PFO, I had the PFO CLOSURE PROCEDURE done in Austin, TX and would love the opportunity to talk to Scott about my experience and on some ideas for bringing him over here to have the procedure undetaken here in Austin".If someone reading my comment knows how to contact Scott please relay my work phone number to him or his wife USA (512) 340-6598
I'm trying to contact Scott Elliott, "I'm a new Zealander living in the US and I stroked 2 years ago and discovered that I too had a PFO, I had the PFO CLOSURE PROCEDURE done in Austin, TX and would love the opportunity to talk to Scott about my experience and on some ideas for bringing him over here to have the procedure undetaken here in Austin".If someone reading my comment knows how to contact Scott please relay my work phone number to him or his wife USA (512) 340-6598 kiwisfly
  • Score: 0
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