'Waste sack charge will hit recycling'

Gazette: 'New council waste charge will harm recycling rate' 'New council waste charge will harm recycling rate'

CHANGES which mean Colchester householders no longer get free replacement garden waste recycling sacks mean fewer people will take the green option, a senior councillor says.

Tory council opposition leader Will Quince has spoken out over Colchester Council’s decision to charge £3.64 to replace worn-out recycling sacks for garden waste. Until last week, they were free.

Mr Quince claims the charge will put residents off recycling.

He asked: “Does the council even want us to recycle from the garden? This is the sign of a council which doesn’t take recycling as seriously as it should."

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5:26pm Mon 7 Apr 14

PROOFREADER says...

What will eventually put me off recycling is that often the garden rubbish bags I put out are not emptied.
What will eventually put me off recycling is that often the garden rubbish bags I put out are not emptied. PROOFREADER
  • Score: 10

5:41pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Say It As It Is OK? says...

Tend to agree many won't re-cycling garden waste if replacement bags have to be paid for. I would not be happy having to pay for replacements when the bin men just drag them along the road, rather than carry them. Then they either throw the bags over the gate or more often they leave them on the pavement and sometimes I have to retrieve the bags from down the road.
Tend to agree many won't re-cycling garden waste if replacement bags have to be paid for. I would not be happy having to pay for replacements when the bin men just drag them along the road, rather than carry them. Then they either throw the bags over the gate or more often they leave them on the pavement and sometimes I have to retrieve the bags from down the road. Say It As It Is OK?
  • Score: 19

6:33pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Hamiltonandy says...

I remember reading that some councils charge to collect green waste. A pity most residents refuse to compost green waste in their back gardens. Really improves soil quality. Takes about six months to rot down in those four foot high tapered bins.
I remember reading that some councils charge to collect green waste. A pity most residents refuse to compost green waste in their back gardens. Really improves soil quality. Takes about six months to rot down in those four foot high tapered bins. Hamiltonandy
  • Score: 0

7:20pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Council Man says...

I'd be more than happy if my green waste sacks were returned after collection! I bought two in January, put them out for collection for the first time last week and that was the last I saw of them. Expensive way of recycling cost me over £7. Same happened the year before last so I put a Freedom of Information (FOI) request to Colchester Borough Council, the FOI after they told me I was the only person that month to call about not getting their green waste bags back, the reply further suggested I am in a small minority of residents whose sacks go missing after collection. I don’t think this is the case, I believe sacks not being returned is a problem of epidemic proportions, I may ask another FOI and this time I may get the truth. In my opinion this is an own goal and a bad idea, Colchester have already lost their much coveted title of being the ‘cleanest and greenest’ in Essex. Recycling is not easy is Colchester, don’t get me started on the very poor quality of the clear recycling sacks they distribute!!!
I'd be more than happy if my green waste sacks were returned after collection! I bought two in January, put them out for collection for the first time last week and that was the last I saw of them. Expensive way of recycling cost me over £7. Same happened the year before last so I put a Freedom of Information (FOI) request to Colchester Borough Council, the FOI after they told me I was the only person that month to call about not getting their green waste bags back, the reply further suggested I am in a small minority of residents whose sacks go missing after collection. I don’t think this is the case, I believe sacks not being returned is a problem of epidemic proportions, I may ask another FOI and this time I may get the truth. In my opinion this is an own goal and a bad idea, Colchester have already lost their much coveted title of being the ‘cleanest and greenest’ in Essex. Recycling is not easy is Colchester, don’t get me started on the very poor quality of the clear recycling sacks they distribute!!! Council Man
  • Score: 11

7:25pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Council Man says...

I have posted a survey on the return of green waste sacks after collection. by Colchester Borough Council - copy and paste https://www.surveymo
nkey.com/s/MXNVQKP
I have posted a survey on the return of green waste sacks after collection. by Colchester Borough Council - copy and paste https://www.surveymo nkey.com/s/MXNVQKP Council Man
  • Score: -1

7:58pm Mon 7 Apr 14

colcestrian says...

Council Man wrote:
I'd be more than happy if my green waste sacks were returned after collection! I bought two in January, put them out for collection for the first time last week and that was the last I saw of them. Expensive way of recycling cost me over £7. Same happened the year before last so I put a Freedom of Information (FOI) request to Colchester Borough Council, the FOI after they told me I was the only person that month to call about not getting their green waste bags back, the reply further suggested I am in a small minority of residents whose sacks go missing after collection. I don’t think this is the case, I believe sacks not being returned is a problem of epidemic proportions, I may ask another FOI and this time I may get the truth. In my opinion this is an own goal and a bad idea, Colchester have already lost their much coveted title of being the ‘cleanest and greenest’ in Essex. Recycling is not easy is Colchester, don’t get me started on the very poor quality of the clear recycling sacks they distribute!!!
It wouldn't surprise me if the council employees haven't been told by their bosses to just throw the garden bags in the general direction of the owners property rather than hook them on a fence, or gate etc, as that way the householder will have to pay for new bags when they blow away, so its a money earner for the council. The ONLY time I have ever seen the dustmen carry the garden bags are when they are empty, they always drag them to the back of the lorry, that's why the holes appear in the bottom of the bag !!
[quote][p][bold]Council Man[/bold] wrote: I'd be more than happy if my green waste sacks were returned after collection! I bought two in January, put them out for collection for the first time last week and that was the last I saw of them. Expensive way of recycling cost me over £7. Same happened the year before last so I put a Freedom of Information (FOI) request to Colchester Borough Council, the FOI after they told me I was the only person that month to call about not getting their green waste bags back, the reply further suggested I am in a small minority of residents whose sacks go missing after collection. I don’t think this is the case, I believe sacks not being returned is a problem of epidemic proportions, I may ask another FOI and this time I may get the truth. In my opinion this is an own goal and a bad idea, Colchester have already lost their much coveted title of being the ‘cleanest and greenest’ in Essex. Recycling is not easy is Colchester, don’t get me started on the very poor quality of the clear recycling sacks they distribute!!![/p][/quote]It wouldn't surprise me if the council employees haven't been told by their bosses to just throw the garden bags in the general direction of the owners property rather than hook them on a fence, or gate etc, as that way the householder will have to pay for new bags when they blow away, so its a money earner for the council. The ONLY time I have ever seen the dustmen carry the garden bags are when they are empty, they always drag them to the back of the lorry, that's why the holes appear in the bottom of the bag !! colcestrian
  • Score: 8

10:51pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Reginald47 says...

If the council staff have to drag them it's because they are too full - why should they risk their backs for idiots who overfill them? Nearly all councils either charge an annual fee for taking garden waste (usually about £30), charge for containers or don't collect it at all. If as Andy Hamilton says people composted their own garden waste there wouldn't be any need for it to be collected.
If the council staff have to drag them it's because they are too full - why should they risk their backs for idiots who overfill them? Nearly all councils either charge an annual fee for taking garden waste (usually about £30), charge for containers or don't collect it at all. If as Andy Hamilton says people composted their own garden waste there wouldn't be any need for it to be collected. Reginald47
  • Score: -8

1:03am Tue 8 Apr 14

Boris says...

Hamiltonandy wrote:
I remember reading that some councils charge to collect green waste. A pity most residents refuse to compost green waste in their back gardens. Really improves soil quality. Takes about six months to rot down in those four foot high tapered bins.
Pruned branches from shrubs etc probably take about 25 years, not 6 months.
[quote][p][bold]Hamiltonandy[/bold] wrote: I remember reading that some councils charge to collect green waste. A pity most residents refuse to compost green waste in their back gardens. Really improves soil quality. Takes about six months to rot down in those four foot high tapered bins.[/p][/quote]Pruned branches from shrubs etc probably take about 25 years, not 6 months. Boris
  • Score: 5

7:56am Tue 8 Apr 14

Say It As It Is OK? says...

Boris wrote:
Hamiltonandy wrote:
I remember reading that some councils charge to collect green waste. A pity most residents refuse to compost green waste in their back gardens. Really improves soil quality. Takes about six months to rot down in those four foot high tapered bins.
Pruned branches from shrubs etc probably take about 25 years, not 6 months.
Just burn all the shrubs and branches, should do wonders for climate change!
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hamiltonandy[/bold] wrote: I remember reading that some councils charge to collect green waste. A pity most residents refuse to compost green waste in their back gardens. Really improves soil quality. Takes about six months to rot down in those four foot high tapered bins.[/p][/quote]Pruned branches from shrubs etc probably take about 25 years, not 6 months.[/p][/quote]Just burn all the shrubs and branches, should do wonders for climate change! Say It As It Is OK?
  • Score: 1

8:06am Tue 8 Apr 14

Say It As It Is OK? says...

Reginald47 wrote:
If the council staff have to drag them it's because they are too full - why should they risk their backs for idiots who overfill them? Nearly all councils either charge an annual fee for taking garden waste (usually about £30), charge for containers or don't collect it at all. If as Andy Hamilton says people composted their own garden waste there wouldn't be any need for it to be collected.
Come on Reg too heavy for the bin men to carry, it's H&S gone mad. Poor things!

My wife carries our bags from the back garden to the kerb side without effort. I do tell her not to carrying too many bags at once and to pace herself. Also I thought of getting her a new wheel barrow to lighten the load but building muscle strength is valuable exercise for her.
[quote][p][bold]Reginald47[/bold] wrote: If the council staff have to drag them it's because they are too full - why should they risk their backs for idiots who overfill them? Nearly all councils either charge an annual fee for taking garden waste (usually about £30), charge for containers or don't collect it at all. If as Andy Hamilton says people composted their own garden waste there wouldn't be any need for it to be collected.[/p][/quote]Come on Reg too heavy for the bin men to carry, it's H&S gone mad. Poor things! My wife carries our bags from the back garden to the kerb side without effort. I do tell her not to carrying too many bags at once and to pace herself. Also I thought of getting her a new wheel barrow to lighten the load but building muscle strength is valuable exercise for her. Say It As It Is OK?
  • Score: 8

8:54am Tue 8 Apr 14

jut1972 says...

Get a spare free green box and put it in that.
Get a spare free green box and put it in that. jut1972
  • Score: -4

9:01am Tue 8 Apr 14

jammin says...

They don't even collect in tendring but are rolling out a scheme where you have to pay!! What do I pay my council tax for? Thats right, f**k all.
They don't even collect in tendring but are rolling out a scheme where you have to pay!! What do I pay my council tax for? Thats right, f**k all. jammin
  • Score: 3

11:00am Tue 8 Apr 14

KB1975 says...

they have been charging for these for years?
I lost all of mine within a year of moving into current house on a busy main road
paid for replacements, lost all of these within another year or so
since then have been buying cheaper alternatives from ebay
they still go missing, but I am not so badly out of pocket
occasionally found the odd one up the road, but most of them vanished without a trace
they have been charging for these for years? I lost all of mine within a year of moving into current house on a busy main road paid for replacements, lost all of these within another year or so since then have been buying cheaper alternatives from ebay they still go missing, but I am not so badly out of pocket occasionally found the odd one up the road, but most of them vanished without a trace KB1975
  • Score: 0

8:38pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Council Man says...

Council Man wrote:
I have posted a survey on the return of green waste sacks after collection. by Colchester Borough Council - copy and paste https://www.surveymo

nkey.com/s/MXNVQKP
Thank you to all of you who participated in my online survey. The question was: 1. Have your green waste sacks ever gone missing after collection by Colchester Borough Council?

YES
NO
I DO NOT RECYCLE MY GREEN WASTE

100% of all respondents answered YES.

I feel another FOI coming on.
[quote][p][bold]Council Man[/bold] wrote: I have posted a survey on the return of green waste sacks after collection. by Colchester Borough Council - copy and paste https://www.surveymo nkey.com/s/MXNVQKP[/p][/quote]Thank you to all of you who participated in my online survey. The question was: 1. Have your green waste sacks ever gone missing after collection by Colchester Borough Council? YES NO I DO NOT RECYCLE MY GREEN WASTE 100% of all respondents answered YES. I feel another FOI coming on. Council Man
  • Score: 2

8:40pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Council Man says...

KB1975 wrote:
they have been charging for these for years?
I lost all of mine within a year of moving into current house on a busy main road
paid for replacements, lost all of these within another year or so
since then have been buying cheaper alternatives from ebay
they still go missing, but I am not so badly out of pocket
occasionally found the odd one up the road, but most of them vanished without a trace
This is exactly what happens to me. I am not the only one, the special one, the chosen one.

When I called CBC about this issue they said I was the only person complaining about green waste sacks not being returned.

I don't feel so special now : (
[quote][p][bold]KB1975[/bold] wrote: they have been charging for these for years? I lost all of mine within a year of moving into current house on a busy main road paid for replacements, lost all of these within another year or so since then have been buying cheaper alternatives from ebay they still go missing, but I am not so badly out of pocket occasionally found the odd one up the road, but most of them vanished without a trace[/p][/quote]This is exactly what happens to me. I am not the only one, the special one, the chosen one. When I called CBC about this issue they said I was the only person complaining about green waste sacks not being returned. I don't feel so special now : ( Council Man
  • Score: 1

8:41pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Council Man says...

jut1972 wrote:
Get a spare free green box and put it in that.
They will not collect it in a green box
[quote][p][bold]jut1972[/bold] wrote: Get a spare free green box and put it in that.[/p][/quote]They will not collect it in a green box Council Man
  • Score: 3

9:51pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Jack O Simons says...

Start composting, it`s a better solution. I am sure the council could afford to buy a large number of composting bins at a low price and sell them cheap to householders. However; Colchester people are cared for better compared to other boroughs
Start composting, it`s a better solution. I am sure the council could afford to buy a large number of composting bins at a low price and sell them cheap to householders. However; Colchester people are cared for better compared to other boroughs Jack O Simons
  • Score: -1

3:35pm Sat 26 Apr 14

zerowasteisthewaytogo says...

http://www.colcheste
r.gov.uk/composting

Looks like Recycle for Essex DID have special rates for compost bins. Why not ask the Council - as this is something that Councils often seem to have deals on.
http://www.colcheste r.gov.uk/composting Looks like Recycle for Essex DID have special rates for compost bins. Why not ask the Council - as this is something that Councils often seem to have deals on. zerowasteisthewaytogo
  • Score: 0

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